If I were to cut into the pipes [Archive] - MercuryMarauder.net Forums

Bradley G

01-13-2012, 04:46 PM

I still have stock exhaust on the Marauder.
If I were to change now, I think I would go with Cobra headers, free flo cats, neuter the second cats and res tips delete.
Probably wouldn't do much for gains but I am concerned with NVH, if I start something along these lines.
I do love the quietness of stock, unless I unleash the fury.

Blackened300a

01-13-2012, 05:02 PM

RacerX

01-13-2012, 06:15 PM

When you say "Cobra headers", are you talking about the stock Cobra logs or aftermarket shorty type headers?

justbob

01-13-2012, 06:30 PM

Don't order LT's for a cobra unless you like cutting and welding like I do... :cool:

Bradley G

01-13-2012, 06:39 PM

Shortie logs
When you say "Cobra headers", are you talking about the stock Cobra logs or aftermarket shorty type headers?

Bradley G

01-13-2012, 06:40 PM

Even through stock Muffies?
It would be pretty damn loud!

Blackened300a

01-13-2012, 07:44 PM

Even through stock Muffies?

Cutting the back 2 cats out really changed the sound. Combined with the res-delete tips will really wake it up

SC Cheesehead

01-14-2012, 09:33 AM

Even through stock Muffies?

That's what I've got on my car, Bradley.

FRPP shorty headers, a Mac Pro Chamber mid-pipe, Magnaflow high flow cats, stock mufflers, and 4" res-delete tips.

Picked up around 25 hp, a bit louder than stock, but not bad, still quiet unless I really hammer it, and even then not "loud."

marauder21

01-14-2012, 09:39 AM

This'll probably throw off a few people of topic or something but for the mufflers what does everyone think of the Aero turbine?

ImpalaSlayer

01-14-2012, 09:41 AM

This'll probably throw off a few people of topic or something but for the mufflers what does everyone think of the Aero turbine?
these have been talked about for years here. they sound great but very loud

marauder21

01-14-2012, 09:47 AM

Oh Really? I haven't really noticed...is there like a forum about it or something? And I don't know seems to be they have a nice quiet deep tone (when idling) from a YouTube video I saw

SC Cheesehead

01-14-2012, 09:51 AM

Oh Really? I haven't really noticed...is there like a forum about it or something? And I don't know seems to be they have a nice quiet deep tone (when idling) from a YouTube video I saw

Yeah, but unless that's all you plan on doing with your car...;)

Like Dave said, they are LOUD at almost any RPM level beyond idle. He had 'em on ImpalaSlayer I and it's hard to hold a conversation at highway speed, lotsa volume and drone.

ImpalaSlayer

01-14-2012, 10:00 AM

i will say this though, its one of the things i really miss about that car! it would literally scare people. oh and tunnels or over passes were so fun.

SC Cheesehead

01-14-2012, 10:01 AM

i will say this though, its one of the things i really miss about that car! it would literally scare people. oh and tunnels or over passes were so fun.

True, that! ;)

marauder21

01-14-2012, 10:15 AM

ctrlraven

01-14-2012, 10:25 AM

Oh than naw nevermind then no more Aero I guess haha but what would you guys suggest for a nice quiet tone when idle But when accelerated it makes some noise>:) not only noise but gives it a little extra hp along the way?:)
If you currently have stock exhaust and changed just the mufflers out they would not be as loud as everyone is saying they are.

I have them on my car. First time was with stock exhaust manifolds, 2nd set of cats removed res-delete tips. A few people that see my car a lot noticed how much louder my exhaust was over the Flowmaster Super 40's I had on before. I changed my whole system over a year ago to full 2.5" mandrel bent stainless, still kept an H-pipe design, two Magnaflow 200-cell count cats, carried over my Aeros and res-delete tips.

There are a few ways you can go about making the car louder without changing too much. Replace the stock tips with res-delete tips, change just the mufflers, remove just the 2nd set of cats, get a custom larger mid-pipe made or get a larger over axle tail pipe section done. Any of those will increase the sound, combine 2 or more and you will get louder and gain a little horsepower.

guspech750

01-14-2012, 10:30 AM

Oh than naw nevermind then no more Aero I guess haha but what would you guys suggest for a nice quiet tone when idle But when accelerated it makes some noise>:) not only noise but gives it a little extra hp along the way?:)

Justbobs exhaust is perfect. Nice and quiet at idle with a really nice tone while accelerating. He then can open the electric exhaust cut outs for anything louder to obnoxiously loud.

Here's a vid of the "loud".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx5Res2cWhM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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marauder21

01-14-2012, 10:47 AM

Dam I just ***** a little lmao!!! That sounds pretty good! What exhaust is does he have?
And ctrlraven this is your car right!!??? Was this when you JUST had the Aero?

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=e1sRPbYJ8_k

YouTube search:2004 Mercury Marauder with Aero Turbine Mufflers

Justbobs exhaust is perfect. Nice and quiet at idle with a really nice tone while accelerating. He then can open the electric exhaust cut outs for anything louder to obnoxiously loud.

Here's a vid of the "loud".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx5Res2cWhM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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ctrlraven

01-14-2012, 10:57 AM

Dam I just ***** a little lmao!!! That sounds pretty good! What exhaust is does he have?
And ctrlraven this is your car right!!??? Was this when you JUST had the Aero?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1sRPbYJ8_k

YouTube search:2004 Mercury Marauder with Aero Turbine Mufflers
Yes that is my car with 2nd set of cats delete, Aero mufflers and res-delete tips, the rest of the exhaust was completely stock.

guspech750

01-14-2012, 11:05 AM

Dam I just ***** a little lmao!!! That sounds pretty good! What exhaust is does he have?

I believe he has Magnaflow mufflers, all cats removed, long tube headers and electric cut outs.

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marauder21

01-14-2012, 11:09 AM

tbone

01-14-2012, 11:13 AM

I believe he has Magnaflow mufflers, all cats removed, long tube headers and electric cut outs.

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justbob

01-14-2012, 02:00 PM

And guspech...wouldn't taking out the cats and such throw off the "check engine" light or have problems passing the emission test? I mean how do you get around that?

You can have that feature turned off in a tune or simply do the Gotts mod (google is your friend) As for emission, do they visibly check? If not, no worries.

Blackened300a

01-14-2012, 02:44 PM

And guspech...wouldn't taking out the cats and such throw off the "check engine" light or have problems passing the emission test? I mean how do you get around that?

Heres my old setup. The drivers side O2 is in the manifold and right behind the front cat and on the passenger side, the O2's are right in front and in back of the front cat. It won't affect anything and nothing needs to be turned off in the tune.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/637d2020.jpg

ctrlraven

01-14-2012, 05:17 PM

Man ctrlraven haha.....I feel in love with that sound that's what got me interested in Aero....is there a video of you passing by or how it sounds.from inside??
And guspech...wouldn't taking out the cats and such throw off the "check engine" light or have problems passing the emission test? I mean how do you get around that?
I feel in love with the sound as well but still want louder now. lol

DOOM switched from his Flowmaster Super 44s to Aero Turbines and made his exhaust even more stupid loud.

The only vids I have of passing by or in-car are with my current system which is a lot louder than with just stock piping so that wouldn't really be any benefit to you. Check out my other vids if you want to see them though.

As far the second set of cats, the second set of O2 sensors are before them so it won't throw any codes and if you have a tune the rear O2 sensors are usually turned off in the tune anyways.

DOOM

01-14-2012, 07:41 PM

This'll probably throw off a few people of topic or something but for the mufflers what does everyone think of the Aero turbine?

Mine are quiet! :rolleyes: :D

CWright

01-14-2012, 07:44 PM

Mine are quiet! :rolleyes: :D

Yes they are! :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5T-5mdfn2c

justbob

01-14-2012, 07:55 PM

I believe Maruader21 was inquiring about running zero cats like me. If not, then do as stated and ditch the rear cats. You still have two cats and it will not affect the tune or throw a cel.

Or if you do want to ditch the kitties, do as I recommended.

Bradley, your car would be just a tad quieter than my old set up if that helps. You also shoudn't have any drone issues whatsoever.

PonyUP

01-14-2012, 07:59 PM

Mine are quiet! :rolleyes: :D

Oh you bet they are quiet, in a wake your neighbors kind of way

But to the Deaf community, they run nice and quiet

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justbob

01-14-2012, 08:04 PM

But to the Deaf community, they run nice and quiet

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But still get scared of the vibrations!

PonyUP

01-14-2012, 08:23 PM

But still get scared of the vibrations!

Didn't think of that, they'd probably get scared ******** when the windows started breaking

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1stMerc

01-14-2012, 08:29 PM

Yeah, but unless that's all you plan on doing with your car...;)

Like Dave said, they are LOUD at almost any RPM level beyond idle. He had 'em on ImpalaSlayer I and it's hard to hold a conversation at highway speed, lotsa volume and drone.

They are only loud if you run with headers or delete second set of cats.

With only Aeros, 2.5 inch H pipe and 3 inch res delete tips ther is no problem holding a conversation at highway speeds.

DOOM

01-14-2012, 08:40 PM

Yes they are! :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5T-5mdfn2c

Damn that sounds good!

Whos car is that?

Oh wait a minute...... Nevermind. :D

marauder21

01-15-2012, 12:25 AM

Because of this^^ I spent quite a few hours on YouTube...so thank you Mr doom and Mr ctrlraven....lol Just kidding but naw I saw the videos where both of Your cars where doing a dyno...and the thing I loved about ctrlraven's was that it was kinda quiet..then loud..louder louder louder and so on...and Mr doom's it was Just Like.....LLLOOOOOUUUDDD throughout...(my opinion)..but man such a difficult choice:/ like I'd want a deep tone sound loud but not loud where it becomes obnoxious you know? Like it makes more sound than it actually moves...example: ricers...you all know what I mean right? Haha

DOOM

01-15-2012, 12:57 AM

marauder21

01-15-2012, 01:24 AM

You think so? Hhmm imma look into it...but I heard flowmaster is a "cheap" brand after long time of use..don't how it could be true but what do You think?

You would like flowmaster super 44's then.

marauder21

01-15-2012, 01:43 AM

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=zlY6OUomK5U

This is something I'd Like to have...except the owner doesn't quite say what he has haha its a secret:) haha

DOOM

01-15-2012, 04:48 AM

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=zlY6OUomK5U

This is something I'd Like to have...except the owner doesn't quite say what he has haha its a secret:) haha

That's a members car on here. Mrblugruv

He sold his marauder. But I'm sure he could tell you what he had on it.

SC Cheesehead

01-15-2012, 07:04 AM

They are only loud if you run with headers or delete second set of cats.

With only Aeros, 2.5 inch H pipe and 3 inch res delete tips ther is no problem holding a conversation at highway speeds.

Yeah, Dave was running Kooks and cat delete IIRC.

marauder21

01-15-2012, 11:07 AM

Alright imma try and find him haha (I'm barely figuring out my way around the website) oh and just one last question, is there like a specific brand or way that will increase performance? Or does that not even matter?

[QUOTE=DOOM;1134790]That's a members car on here. Mrblugruv

He sold his marauder. But I'm sure he could tell you what he had on it.[/QU

Blackened300a

01-15-2012, 03:28 PM

oh and just one last question, is there like a specific brand or way that will increase performance? Or does that not even matter?

Changing the mufflers will not increase performance, just sound.

marauder21

01-15-2012, 04:07 PM

I was thinking of getting long tube headers H-pipe and different mufflers I just don't know if thats a Good choice to get a good sound and performance which is why I'm doing a little research and asking you guys for a few tips on Do's and Dont's. Lol that's all pretty much oh and blackened your the one with the vortex muffler right???

Changing the mufflers will not increase performance, just sound.

marauder21

01-15-2012, 04:13 PM

Totally random: but I came across this and WOW haha lol technology these days
its a remote controlled muffler!!
YouTube search: Varex remote control muffler

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv %3DK7jGYnhbQQU&v=K7jGYnhbQQU&gl=US

Blackened300a

01-15-2012, 04:28 PM

oh and blackened your the one with the vortex muffler right???

Yeah Cherry bomb vortex mufflers with res-delete tips. Which just recently the passenger side one broke internally.

Before the headers.
mMFOlBLQgno

With the rear cats removed.
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Long tube headers and hi-flo cats installed.
NPxQA-9Qr_U

justbob

01-15-2012, 06:46 PM

FTW...
http://www.badlanzhpe.com/po.php?cPath=39&pID=176&osCsid=4505c7e27acf5e4e0baa5f4 164daef4a
The true 2 1/2" system, not the smaller crap.

DOOM

01-15-2012, 06:56 PM

FTW...
http://www.badlanzhpe.com/po.php?cPath=39&pID=176&osCsid=4505c7e27acf5e4e0baa5f4 164daef4a
The true 2 1/2" system, not the smaller crap.

:hmmm:....

marauder21

01-15-2012, 10:55 PM

Oh hell no..lol I wanna hear that 2 1/2" cutout like now!!!! Is there my any chance anyone who has that on their marauder?? (Couple days from now doom has it haha the man is thinking haha)

guspech750

01-15-2012, 11:05 PM

Oh hell no..lol I wanna hear that 2 1/2" cutout like now!!!! Is there my any chance anyone who has that on their marauder?? (Couple days from now doom has it haha the man is thinking haha)

See post #17. YouTube video.

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marauder21

01-16-2012, 12:05 AM

:P I'm an idiot.....haha those are the ones he had on? Exactly that brand? So if I get that now would it just control the "stock sound" or will It make it somehow louder or should i get the car loud and then the remote control?

See post #17. YouTube video.

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justbob

01-16-2012, 07:31 PM

Closed it will be stock 100%. Open will sound like WAR.

Get at least a 2 1/2" for future upgrades. Mine are bolt about 1" behind the Long tubes.

Can't beat the warranty and when you order you talk to the man himself you started up this company a few years ago. Very nice guy, explains everything fully, and as far as I know the only kit with a full size butterfly (on the custom systems).

Rides requested by appointment only :D

Thanks Joey! Still love that video! Sounds so tame and quiet on tape?

marauder21

01-16-2012, 10:34 PM

Would you say get the exhaust I want(I'm aiming for Aero, 2nd cat delete and long tube headers) and THEN get the 2 1/2" system installed or the other way around? And wait in order to get that part installed you'd have to take it to the company???:O

Closed it will be stock 100%. Open will sound like WAR.

Get at least a 2 1/2" for future upgrades. Mine are bolt about 1" behind the Long tubes.

Can't beat the warranty and when you order you talk to the man himself you started up this company a few years ago. Very nice guy, explains everything fully, and as far as I know the only kit with a full size butterfly (on the custom systems).

Rides requested by appointment only :D

Thanks Joey! Still love that video! Sounds so tame and quiet on tape?

ctrlraven

01-17-2012, 06:18 AM

Would you say get the exhaust I want(I'm aiming for Aero, 2nd cat delete and long tube headers) and THEN get the 2 1/2" system installed or the other way around? And wait in order to get that part installed you'd have to take it to the company???:O

If you get long tube headers you will only have room for one set of cats anyways. The headers will be the most expensive part as far as cost of part and labor. Also when doing headers it would be wise afterwards to get a dyno tune done because it will alter your air/fuel ratio.

You could do like another member did (the name escapes me at the moment) but he went with Stainless Works cat-back system and had it mated to his front stock exhaust section. Then whenever down the road you can install the headers and everything will bolt right up or at least need very little fabbing done.

Doing just the cat-back system will give you some horsepower and really increase the sound.

Blackened300a

01-17-2012, 06:48 AM

You could do like another member did (the name escapes me at the moment) but he went with Stainless Works cat-back system and had it mated to his front stock exhaust section. Then whenever down the road you can install the headers and everything will bolt right up or at least need very little fabbing done.

That would be Babbage and I.

ctrlraven

01-17-2012, 06:51 AM

That would be Babbage and I.
No it was another person with a Silver.

justbob

01-17-2012, 06:57 PM

Would you say get the exhaust I want(I'm aiming for Aero, 2nd cat delete and long tube headers) and THEN get the 2 1/2" system installed or the other way around? And wait in order to get that part installed you'd have to take it to the company???:O

Try the Muffs, then headers, then still not enough? Get the cutouts.

Installed at the company? Yeah, my company...Me, myself, and I.

Look up my thread on my MAC headers. I don't know the meaning of stop, or no, or it will never work. Infact, when I hear the words never and can't , I smile and open my tool box.

Your in the area? I can do ya good.