Traction control !!!!!

[drummerboi]

This may be a stupid question but do you drive with it on or off? And why??

[stevengerard]

off only because my sensor went a few years ago, no big deal to me. Always turned it off anyways when I wanted to have some fun

[Pat]

With it on. Many a driver has totaled his Marauder during slippery street conditions, medium speed 45-55 MPH. I've talked to at least four, men and women, in my geographical area alone. NW Louisiana +/~ 200 miles.

[DOOM]

Have it on if you drive in rain or snow.

[4drcbra]

On until i wanna unleash the fury

[HiHoSilver]

Since my car doesn't have traction control...OFF... I turn t/c and stabilitrak off in the tbss when it snows for a little more fun.

[illwood]

I drive with the traction control on unless I'm in a snowy condition that requires me to turn it off to drive, for example, my driveway is pretty steep and if it is a little snowy out, I turn it off until I get onto the road, but sometimes you need to allow for a little spin to get up a grade.

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[guspech750]

Off = pedal to the metal!!

Even when I did drive it in the snow. I kept it off. The TC would bog the car down and I'd end up almost getting stuck.

TC in snow/rain/dry roads = Total Fail!!


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[Mr. Man]

On, unless a big smokey burnout is necessary :D

[DOOM]

On, unless a big smokey burnout is necessary :D

My button has dust on it! :P :D

[Green96]

Off because I am running the same size tires all the way around. I turn it back on for ice or snow.

[MOTOWN]

Mines stays on because i drive it like a grandpa!

[Granddaddy Marq]

Mines stays on because i drive it like a grandpa!


Ya, me too.

[SC Cheesehead]

Depends. I usually leave it on for highway driving, off if I want to have some fun.

[Shaijack]

Off no snow here.

[Mr. Man]

my button has dust on it! :p :d
twss :d .....

[bolsen]

I don't have the option to turn it on or off. Does that mean it's always on? Can i manually turn it off?

[screamn]

Now that I installed the correct series tires in the rear, I leave it "on" but when I'm out for thrilling adventures I turn it "off". :burnout:

[DOOM]

I don't have the option to turn it on or off. Does that mean it's always on? Can i manually turn it off?

That means you dont have traction control. :lol:

[Bluerauder]

I don't have the option to turn it on or off. Does that mean it's always on? Can i manually turn it off?


That means you dont have traction control. :lol:

"Bolsen's" signature says he has a factory sunroof (moonroof??). So, I would suspect that he has an '04 MM WITH traction control. Otherwise, the moonroof is an aftermarket install.

I leave my T/C on especially in wet/slick weather to avoid problems like \/\/\/\/\/\/ during turns and corners. My T/C has kicked in and possibly saved a spinout on at least 3 occasions that I can recall .... each time on a wet/slick left turn from a traffic light.


well me and my family where going out to dinner last night for my wifes birthday... well it was wet we where goin around a corner and sure enough there we went right into a curb..

[boatmangc]

Snow?
Traction?
Control?

[bolsen]

"Bolsen's" signature says he has a factory sunroof (moonroof??). So, I would suspect that he has an '04 MM WITH traction control. Otherwise, the moonroof is an aftermarket install.

I leave my T/C on especially in wet/slick weather to avoid problems like \/\/\/\/\/\/ during turns and corners. My T/C has kicked in and possibly saved a spinout on at least 3 occasions that I can recall .... each time on a wet/slick left turn from a traffic light.

I trust I know very little compared to most here. How can I tell if it is a factory moonroof or aftermarket? It looks pretty stock to me. I drive an 03.

[Timw286]

On...these tires are expensive!;)

[fastblackmerc]

I trust I know very little compared to most here. How can I tell if it is a factory moonroof or aftermarket? It looks pretty stock to me. I drive an 03.

What does your overhead console look like?

Post a picture if you can.

[SC Cheesehead]

I trust I know very little compared to most here. How can I tell if it is a factory moonroof or aftermarket? It looks pretty stock to me. I drive an 03.

If your car's an '03, it's an aftermarket moonroof as they weren't offered as options until '04.

Does your car have two rocker switches on the dash trim panel to the right of the steering wheel, as shown in the photo below?

The one closest to the steering wheel is the switch to turn the T/C on-off.

http://image.musclemustangfastfords.c om/f/17858736/mmfp_0904_07_z+2004_mercury_ma rauder+interior.jpg

[Bruce Wayne]

My traction control button dosen't illuminate when I push it on, but when I spin the tires in the snow, the light in the dash flashes and blinks, any idea what's going on here?

[fastblackmerc]

My traction control button dosen't illuminate when I push it on, but when I spin the tires in the snow, the light in the dash flashes and blinks, any idea what's going on here?

The flashing light means the traction control is being used.

[SC Cheesehead]

My traction control button dosen't illuminate when I push it on, but when I spin the tires in the snow, the light in the dash flashes and blinks, any idea what's going on here?


The flashing light means the traction control is being used.

And if the engine noticably bogs down if you try to speed up when spinning, the T/C is working.

[fastblackmerc]

Read page 115 & 116 n the owners manual. It explains everything.

[Bruce Wayne]

Is there a light on the button itself that could be burned out? any idea how to replace this. Thank you for the reply.

[fastblackmerc]

I'll check mine to see if the switch is lighted.

[cougar9150]

Is there a light on the button itself that could be burned out? any idea how to replace this. Thank you for the reply.

The switch lights up when turned off.

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[ctrlraven]

I can't even remember the last time I actually left mine off in the MM, I always have it off in any weather. Now if it slick out and I stop on a incline I will turn it off to get traction but I try to avoid even getting in that situation to start with.

Now on my Taurus, I leave it on since it's AWD and only turn it off when I want to have some fun.

[drummerboi]

I just checked the pic of my cars inside and it only has a pedal adjust button on the left of the steering wheel so I guess I don't have traction control is that a bad thing??

[DOOM]

I just checked the pic of my cars inside and it only has a pedal adjust button on the left of the steering wheel so I guess I don't have traction control is that a bad thing??


No its not a bad thing at all!

[Bluerauder]

I trust I know very little compared to most here. How can I tell if it is a factory moonroof or aftermarket? It looks pretty stock to me. I drive an 03.

What is your VIN number?

If it starts with 2MHHM, you have a factory moonroof. The "H" in the 3rd position indicates an "incomplete" vehicle that went in for moonroof install before delivery.

If it starts with 2MEHM, it was an aftermarket install done by the dealer or the owner after delivery.

I suspect that you have a 2MEHM early build 300a with moonroof but without traction control. The VIN is key.

[Mr. Man]

What is your VIN number?

If it starts with 2MHHM, you have a factory moonroof. The "H" in the 3rd position indicates an "incomplete" vehicle that went in for moonroof install before delivery.

If it starts with 2MEHM, it was an aftermarket install done by the dealer or the owner after delivery.

I suspect that you have a 2MEHM early build 300a with moonroof but without traction control. The VIN is key.
Could he have one of those oddball 300b's that had a mish-mash of 03 and 04 options?

[Bluerauder]

Could he have one of those oddball 300b's that had a mish-mash of 03 and 04 options?

WTF does this ^^^^ mean? Bolsen says he has an '03 MM with a moonroof and no traction control. Moonroofs were not an available option in 2003 (even though the brochure says they would be available in late 2003 model year). Traction control was introduced with the '03 MM 300B model and carried forward to 2004.

$10.00 says he's got an '03 MM 300a with an aftermarket moonroof and a 2MEHM VIN to prove it. Probably a pre-September 2002 build date, too. Ante up your $10.00 Mr. Man. ;)

[Mr. Man]

WTF does this ^^^^ mean? Bolsen says he has an '03 MM with a moonroof and no traction control. Moonroofs were not an available option in 2003 (even though the brochure says they would be available in late 2003 model year). Traction control was introduced with the '03 MM 300B model and carried forward to 2004.

$10.00 says he's got an '03 MM 300a with an aftermarket moonroof and a 2MEHM VIN to prove it. Probably a pre-September 2002 build date, too. Ante up your $10.00 Mr. Man. ;)
Jeez Charlie underwear to tight today? :lol:

I've read on this site some people who have 300b's have some options that were from both years. The consensus was Ford had some left over 03 parts like locking fuel doors and stuck them on the B's which for the most part do not have the locking door.

Your probably right that it's an aftermarket moon roof but I threw the idea out there :)

[stryker]

Ok Marauderers this thread is very interesting now I will aport to the thread, What about of the Panthers that have traction control but you cannot disable it ? in my case my Panther BP74I ( 2000 Ford Crown Victoria LX HPP) as I understand my Panther has traction control but it cannot be disable (turn off) by switch, well mangs I have a few questions about this function.1- What is the function of the traction control and how it works ?2- In Panther cars without traction control switch but have the function is possible to disable it and where ?3- in Panthers without Traction control switch, it can be modified to add the switch and which parts I have to get to convert it.

[fastblackmerc]

Ok Marauderers this thread is very interesting now I will aport to the thread, What about of the Panthers that have traction control but you cannot disable it ? in my case my Panther BP74I ( 2000 Ford Crown Victoria LX HPP) as I understand my Panther has traction control but it cannot be disable (turn off) by switch, well mangs I have a few questions about this function.1- What is the function of the traction control and how it works ?2- In Panther cars without traction control switch but have the function is possible to disable it and where ?3- in Panthers without Traction control switch, it can be modified to add the switch and which parts I have to get to convert it.

Google to the rescue..... AGAIN!

http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2012372

[Shaijack]

Was TC only for the really high powered Marauders. The rest did not get it??????????

[SC Cheesehead]

Was TC only for the really high powered Marauders. The rest did not get it??????????

Nope. If that was the case, only 328 Marauders built in '03 would have it... ;)

[fastblackmerc]

Was TC only for the really high powered Marauders. The rest did not get it??????????

All Marauders came from the factory with the "same" HP.... 302 at the crank.

T/C was on all 2004's and some late production 2003's.

[bolsen]

MEH Vin it is!!!! I guess it's an aftermarket. How much does that decrease value??? I always thought it was stock. Whoever had it put did top notch work. Good console, lights, roofliner and quality. Never had an issue and I use it a lot.

[Bruce Wayne]

Ford did not install moonroofs at the St. Thomas facility, they were sent out to another company to install.

[Bluerauder]

Ford did not install moonroofs at the St. Thomas facility, they were sent out to another company to install.

Correct, that's why they carry the "2MHHM" incomplete vehicle VIN designation.

[stryker]

I did a search under the glove compartment and inside with no results there's no button, ok in the fusebox witch fuse is the one I have to pulled out to deactivate the T/C from the many fuses inside the box unfortunally BP74I came without owner's manual where it has the diagram and shows where's the fuse. help needed. :confused:

[Mr. Man]

MEH Vin it is!!!! I guess it's an aftermarket. How much does that decrease value??? I always thought it was stock. Whoever had it put did top notch work. Good console, lights, roofliner and quality. Never had an issue and I use it a lot.
I doubt at this point in the MM history it would decrease the value any. It's like having a pool in your backyard, it is what some people are looking for and others would take a pass.

Me personally I would never order a car with a sunroof because eventually it will leak but other people love them.:)

[stryker]

I doubt at this point in the MM history it would decrease the value any. It's like having a pool in your backyard, it is what some people are looking for and others would take a pass.

Me personally I would never order a car with a sunroof because eventually it will leak but other people love them.:) :agree: with MR.MAN Mang but at the end is your decision. :rolleyes:

[bolsen]

It's been in there for at least 5.5 years (how long I've owned it) and has no issues yet.

[CBT]

It's the second thing I turn off after I start the car. First one is overdrive.

[Bluerauder]

MEH Vin it is!!!! I guess it's an aftermarket. How much does that decrease value??? I always thought it was stock. Whoever had it put did top notch work. Good console, lights, roofliner and quality. Never had an issue and I use it a lot.


I doubt at this point in the MM history it would decrease the value any. It's like having a pool in your backyard, it is what some people are looking for and others would take a pass.

Me personally I would never order a car with a sunroof because eventually it will leak but other people love them.:)

Typically, a moonroof (or a sunroof) will increase the value of the car. Most people see this as a desirable option. That's why the MSRP is bumped up by $1000-$1500 for those vehicles with the moonroof/sunroof option. Of course, that added value depreciates over time at about the same rate as the vehicle itself.

A quick check on KBB for a Marauder both with and without moonroof shows about a $250-265 difference in private party price for "Excellent" condition. That's probably a good gauge on added value. As long as the install is professional and is operating properly, I don't think it matters whether it is factory original or not. Just MHO.

What it is really worth ... depends on what the buyer is willing to spend.