04 DTR MM, 465 original mi...The eBAY game starts over

[NXSBOB]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercury-MARAUDER-2004-MERCURY-MARAUDER-1-OWNER-ONLY-465-MILES-COLLECTOR-QUALITY-1-KIND-/310374095018?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4843bcd8aa

[BirchMarauder]

who wants to help me jack the price up? LOL. seems he keeps listing this only to have the auction end and not sell it.

[Blackmobile]

This time he has a reserve, and I bet it's over $23100

[ShadyLurker]

I bid 20000.01$ thats about all i'd pay for a stock 9y/o car no matter what the miles.

[RubberCtyRauder]

That seller shouldn't be allowed to get away with re-listing it afer having a winning bid the other week..That bidder is a member here and posted about it.

[lavath]

That seller shouldn't be allowed to get away with re-listing it afer having a winning bid the other week..That bidder is a member here and posted about it.

agreed :puke:

[MOTOWN]

Ive sold cars on ebay and then the winning member never pay!, ive had that happen twice! so its not always the seller playing games.

There are those who bid on a car knowing full well they will never close the deal.

[RubberCtyRauder]

Ive sold cars on ebay and then the winning member never pay!, ive had that happen twice! so its not always the seller playing games.

There are those who bid on a car knowing full well they will never close the deal.


I know it goes both ways..prolly even more so with bidders who don't follow thru.

[RubberCtyRauder]

agreed :puke:
Did you file a complaint thru ebaymotors? or anything? There was that auction for a Dodge Challenger that the dealer goofed and never put a reserve on it or something and winning bid was lower than the sticker price and said they wouldn't sell it, but the bidder got every car forum involved and whomever and ended up getting it.

[NXSBOB]

who wants to help me jack the price up? LOL. seems he keeps listing this only to have the auction end and not sell it.
Why would you or anyone else here want to help jack the price up so the seller can get the money he really wants. :confused:
Unless you plan on not buying after you win for the high price. :beer:

[BirchMarauder]

Why would you or anyone else here want to help jack the price up so the seller can get the money he really wants. :confused:
Unless you plan on not buying after you win for the high price. :beer:

No I wouldn't buy it. But I would make sure I was high bidder....offensively high. :)

[DOOM]

There was a black 04 marauder for sale at carmax here in maryland.

Less than 3K miles and factory moonroof

Sold for 22K in less than 24 hours!

[Vortech347]

dumbass self edit.

[stryker]

I bid 20000.01$ thats about all i'd pay for a stock 9y/o car no matter what the miles.

I bid $15.000.00 no more He he he he he heeeeeeee, sorry mangs it's joke the Panther worth every penny but let's see how that ends.

[NXSBOB]

There was a black 04 marauder for sale at carmax here in maryland.

Less than 3K miles and factory moonroof

Sold for 22K in less than 24 hours!
I wish I would have seen it first. How long ago was that?

[DOOM]

I wish I would have seen it first. How long ago was that?

Back around september or october I think.

They got the car in on a monday afternoon and was sold by tuesday morning.

Me and a buddy were going to go look at it but it was already gone.

[Comin' in Hot]

There was a black 04 marauder for sale at carmax here in maryland.

Less than 3K miles and factory moonroof

Sold for 22K in less than 24 hours!
I tried to buy that car, I just missed it

[Blackmobile]

It's at $23,001.00, next bid will validate my prediction, But I ain't doin it.

[NXSBOB]

I predict that reserve is $25k, minimum.

Current second place bibber must know that it only takes $100 more
bid to be #1
2***c(263) $22,997.00 Jan-24-12 16:51:44 PST

He was also tied for first place (but not in lead) in first auction,
must have known that it would have only taken $100 more bid
to be #1
2***c(263) $23,000.00 Jan-06-12 16:41:39 PST

[Mercguy04]

Someone did the $23001.00 and reserve not met
Also the Gentleman that tried to buy it first time around gave the dealer a Negitive feedback. The guy responded with this remark
Seller Refused 2Complete Sale.


Reply by zebrowski6242 (Jan-22-12 13:03):
Buyer did not follow the terms of the auction. I tried to communicate with buyer.... Mercury (#260927327828)
Seems like the guy is holding out. still wants 40K for the car LOL It is a nice car butif the dealer is an a--hole than what is the point in dealing with him. He will figure out how to get more money out of you in the end anyway. Dealer Prep, Title, Temp Tag. etc.
There are lots of DTR's on this site for sale and nice ones at that.
Russell

[lavath]

I predict that reserve is $25k, minimum.

Current second place bibber must know that it only takes $100 more
bid to be #1
2***c(263) $22,997.00 Jan-24-12 16:51:44 PST

He was also tied for first place (but not in lead) in first auction,
must have known that it would have only taken $100 more bid
to be #1
2***c(263) $23,000.00 Jan-06-12 16:41:39 PST


I think you have a point: That looks like an alt user for the Mr. in question...

[marauder21]

I know this is probably sssoooo random! Haha I Just wanna know if I made a mistake:
I bought on September an 04 DTR with 23,230 miles on it for 14k....did I pay too much for it or no?

[TFB]

04 DTR with 23,230 miles on it for 14k....did I pay too much for it or no?
Depends, if it's been winter driven and set out in the weather, I wouldn't have touched it for $14K... If it was pampered and garage kept then you got a deal...

[Spectragod]

Depends, if it's been winter driven and set out in the weather, I wouldn't have touched it for $14K... If it was pampered and garage kept then you got a deal...

^^^^^^^^ what he said^^^^^^^^^^^^

[jstevens]

Depends, if it's been winter driven and set out in the weather, I wouldn't have touched it for $14K... If it was pampered and garage kept then you got a deal...


Not true. I had an 04 DD with nitrous for 2 1/2 years. you could eat off of my engine and underbody.

[marauder21]

Oh well yeah has never touched snow nor rain and practically only driven on nice sunny days...but some people(who don't know what a marauder is) believe I paid too much.

[Da Dark Jedi]

Oh well yeah has never touched snow nor rain and practically only driven on nice sunny days...but some people(who don't know what a marauder is) believe I paid too much.


Are you satisfied with your decision?? If so than why do you care what people say. Better yet why are you letting them spend your money? We do a lot of that here, stomp on what people sell their vehicles for. As what was said in another post high price for our cars (used) means that we retain the value longer.:banana: :beer:

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Sounds like a good deal to me Maruader21. These cars realistically should be holding value if not gaining it.

[marauder21]

Exactly!! Like no I'm happy with my purchase!! Just most people who know how much I bought it say its too much When I could've bought a crown vic-_- example this one guy was saying that I should get a grill Like his for my car (he owns a crown Vic) all I said was "do you see that bumper right there(pointing to my marauder) it costs way more than your car" obviously I mightve exaggerated but eh I got my point across haha :)

[NXSBOB]

I think you have a point: That looks like an alt user for the Mr. in question...
YOU MEAN SHILL? :censor:

[lavath]

As a concerned person, I strongly urge that nobody do any business or attempt to with zebrowski6242. I sat and watched him set the auction parameters, get a winner, then told the winner no sale, then raised up his cost to hold up his end of the bargain by going outside of eBay and tacking on thousands of dollars to the cost of the car - stating that it was not about the money - that the car was for his (unborn) baby, he could never EVER sell it! Then when this dishonorable extortion attempt fails, he re-lists it within the hour!! This person is a dealer and a long term eBay seller. HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE IS DOING. No name calling, no lies - Just the simple facts:

This all from the winner of the action:

http://www.paragoncom.net/2004marauder.pdf

The Gentleman, michael zebrowski (extremecc70@aol.com) (ebay id: zebrowski6242) Owner of Extreme Car CO Eynon, PA sold his 2004 Mercury Marauder to me via ebay no reserve auction. He then refused the completed sale, demanding more money. I had multiple contacts with Mike before the end of the auction. He told me that this was the perfect car for me and that it was a no reserve, so I should bid to win.

A few minutes before auction close, called him and I told him that I was at the CES show in Vegas using a mobile device and that I could not see the terms and conditions of the sale. He told me that if I won, all I had to do was to pay the balance within 7 days.

I won the auction for $23.1k and made the deposit. During the next few days, Mike would not take nor return my phone calls. He did message that he had sellers remorse but that I would really enjoy the car.

When he finally got back to me, he demanded more money outside of eBay and cited his own website where he is listing the car for more money here at this web address:
You can see it here listed for $29,995
http://extremecarco.com/index.php

and here you can see the details, its the same pictures and etc.
http://extremecarco.com/details.php?id=106

It is also on autotrader


Here is some of the info
Company Name: EXTREME CAR CO
Address: 391 SCRANTON CARBONDALE HIGHWAY
City, ST Zip: EYNON,PA 18403
Phone / Fax: 5704991608
Email: extremecc70@aol.com
Power Units: 1
Dot Number: 1446696

[W4LTD]

FROM THE eBAY AUCTION:
On Jan-27-12 at 18:42:23 PST, seller added the following information:
Hello, first I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to view my wonderful Marauder, however I need to address some issues that are bothering me. Several Ebay members have sent me e-mails asking why the item was relisted after being sold with no reserve. The answer to that is I was really hopeing the car would have done alot more than it did. there were 106 watchers with less than 12 hours to go. Ebay will not let me end an item once reserve is met and there is less than 12 hours left in the auction. Shill bidding is also against there policy so I of course could not have anyone bid the item up. When the auction ended it was several thousand dollars less than I owned the car for. I just had a beautiful son 10/01/2011 and decided before I lost that much money I would keep the car and enjoy it with him as he got older. I asked the high bidder to cancel the transaction as I was having sellers remorse. They refused. Therefore binding me to the auction. However my ad states a deposit required within 24 hours after the auction ends. They did not send the deposit, therefore I chose not to sell the Marauder to the individuals resulting in the negative feedback I received. I also personally own a 2010 Dodge Challenger with 1400 miles. I have since made the decision to sell the Challenger and relist the Marauder and purchase a 2012 Dodge Charger SRT8 ( 4 doors ) that was produced on 10/01/2011 to enjoy with my little guy. Several ebay members have also been contacting me through ebay abusing me behind the keyboard for not selling the car. I also believe that these individuals are also members of a national forum with nothing better to do than attack me. If they knew the whole story and were put in my situation, I am sure they would have made the same decision I did. This is an amazing car and 1 of a kind. If it does not sell, I will just put it away. I appreciate you taking the time to read this and I hope you understand why it was relisted.

[NXSBOB]

FROM THE eBAY AUCTION:
On Jan-27-12 at 18:42:23 PST, seller added the following information:
Hello, first I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to view my wonderful Marauder, however I need to address some issues that are bothering me. Several Ebay members have sent me e-mails asking why the item was relisted after being sold with no reserve. The answer to that is I was really hopeing the car would have done alot more than it did. there were 106 watchers with less than 12 hours to go. Ebay will not let me end an item once reserve is met and there is less than 12 hours left in the auction. Shill bidding is also against there policy so I of course could not have anyone bid the item up. When the auction ended it was several thousand dollars less than I owned the car for. I just had a beautiful son 10/01/2011 and decided before I lost that much money I would keep the car and enjoy it with him as he got older. I asked the high bidder to cancel the transaction as I was having sellers remorse. They refused. Therefore binding me to the auction. However my ad states a deposit required within 24 hours after the auction ends. They did not send the deposit, therefore I chose not to sell the Marauder to the individuals resulting in the negative feedback I received. I also personally own a 2010 Dodge Challenger with 1400 miles. I have since made the decision to sell the Challenger and relist the Marauder and purchase a 2012 Dodge Charger SRT8 ( 4 doors ) that was produced on 10/01/2011 to enjoy with my little guy. Several ebay members have also been contacting me through ebay abusing me behind the keyboard for not selling the car. I also believe that these individuals are also members of a national forum with nothing better to do than attack me. If they knew the whole story and were put in my situation, I am sure they would have made the same decision I did. This is an amazing car and 1 of a kind. If it does not sell, I will just put it away. I appreciate you taking the time to read this and I hope you understand why it was relisted.
WHA. :cry: WHA. :cry: WHA.:cry:This remark and Smiles were meant towards SELLER.
He lies and thinks that bringing up his new son or his other cars has anything to do with this.
BTW, thanks for posting W4LTD.

[NXSBOB]

I know this is probably sssoooo random! Haha I Just wanna know if I made a mistake:
I bought on September an 04 DTR with 23,230 miles on it for 14k....did I pay too much for it or no?
In my option this is wrong place to post THIS and get your ego stroked. :bandit:

[guspech750]

Oh well yeah has never touched snow nor rain and practically only driven on nice sunny days...but some people(who don't know what a marauder is) believe I paid too much.

Those people are D-bags and your should stab them in their eyes with rusty rebar. I look forward to seeing your DTR hopefully soon after winter.


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[justbob]

I would have contacted my lawyer for advice and recourse. Ofcourse, that is free for me. :D

[extremecc]

Well, I guess you guys figured after enough bashing you would hear from me. Everyone who has commented on my actions do not know me. There are members who do as I have purchased their cars, and There are members who have purchased Marauders from me. What I added to my listing is the truth. I dare anyone of you to be placed in my situation and not do what I did. It is easy to pass judgement when not having all the facts. Did you know the high bidder bid on the car for a friend? The buyer contaced me prior to bidding to inquire about shipping and then after winning the auction asked if I could assist in shipping. Also if I had received the deposit, I would have been obligated to sell the car, and for those who say why should he send the deposit, so I could keep his deposit and the car. Please, that is just an excuse as he sent the deposit anyway and I refunded it immediately. I did pay a lot of money for this Marauder because it was the best I have ever come across since buying one new. If the economy was better, I would have never offered it for sale to start with. I know that the winning bidder was not happy with me, but I did try to work it out with him, but he never got back in touch with me. Why members of this forum have the inability to mind there own business and pass judgement on me with out being in my shoes escapes me.

[justbob]

So did the winning bidder make a deposit with 24 hours or not? If not, you did nothing wrong. If so, you should be ashamed of yourself and taken to court.

Were you reachable in the first 24 hr's after auction end or did you ignore emails, messages, and phone calls? Answers listed above.

Did you indeed try to get more money out of the buyer after they won the auction? Answers listed above.

What would EBAY find if they checked into all the bidders I.P. address's? Relationships with you in any way? Just a thought, not accusing.

Was the buyer having second thoughts and delayed the 24 hr payment? You should then be happy right? Did he try to contact you saying he was out of town and please please give him 48 hr's? Jerk move on seller to decline, but well within your rights and still your chess move, either way, your the one in the right.

We need to hear more from him on this as well.

As for minding our own business... Welcome to one of the tightest knit car clubs you will ever find on the nets. We own damn near half the cars left out there, some even own two or three. And yes, we care about how our brotheren are treated.

So there it is, you came here to clear your name which I totally get. Let's hear some facts, you might just be an honest guy, or at least wording on your side? If not, I'm not too sure why you would even bother to explain yourself.

[extremecc]

Hello again and to answer the questions asked. The gentleman who bid on the car was not the buyer. The buyer contacted me and told me he as out of town but never mentioned needing more time to send the deposit, why would he, his friend is the one who bid and obviously he was at home. The bid was placed with just a couple minutes left. once he won, he should have sent the deposit and I would have had to sell him the car. Also once I asked to cancel the transaction and he declined, he should have sent the deposit and again I would have been obligated. Was I relieved that the deposit was sent late. YES. Also As my revision to my listing stated I could not have anyone shill bid at the end as that is against ebay policy and in some states the law. I did ask the gentleman who was the last bidder to consider giving me a little more, and that I will not deny. I have close to $27,000 in this car not including advertising. If he indeed wanted the car, and would have offered a few hundred dollars more, I still would have sold the car, as I believed he really wanted it. And Yes before I was going to lose all that money I was going to keep it and enjoy going to shows with my son. I have no need to lie about any of this. I am a decent person who takes pride in being honest. Because of the harassing emails and name calling I have received through ebay, I have removed the listing. I really do not need the abuse, would you want to be on the receiving end of the harassment? I did not think so.

[guspech750]

Hello again and to answer the questions asked. The gentleman who bid on the car was not the buyer. The buyer contacted me and told me he as out of town but never mentioned needing more time to send the deposit, why would he, his friend is the one who bid and obviously he was at home. The bid was placed with just a couple minutes left. once he won, he should have sent the deposit and I would have had to sell him the car. Also once I asked to cancel the transaction and he declined, he should have sent the deposit and again I would have been obligated. Was I relieved that the deposit was sent late. YES. Also As my revision to my listing stated I could not have anyone shill bid at the end as that is against ebay policy and in some states the law. I did ask the gentleman who was the last bidder to consider giving me a little more, and that I will not deny. I have close to $27,000 in this car not including advertising. If he indeed wanted the car, and would have offered a few hundred dollars more, I still would have sold the car, as I believed he really wanted it. And Yes before I was going to lose all that money I was going to keep it and enjoy going to shows with my son. I have no need to lie about any of this. I am a decent person who takes pride in being honest. Because of the harassing emails and name calling I have received through ebay, I have removed the listing. I really do not need the abuse, would you want to be on the receiving end of the harassment? I did not think so.
I honestly dont really care about the he said she said stuff. Makes for an interesting story.Thats your business.

Since you have the car........................ Drive the snot out it!!! Supercharge it and do what it was meant to do:burnout:

[CBT]

So the high bidder was required to make a deposit and did not meet the deadline? Is that correct?

[Guittard22]

Wow ..... This poor car should go to someone that will truly love it . It's not always about the money or is it please make up your mind keep it or sell it .

[Da Dark Jedi]

Crap happens on the net just like person to person. If we get two more sides to this story then we'll have a coffin to bury this thread. Good luck to both involed.

[extremecc]

It is for sale and I agree that it should go to a proper home. I appreciate you members allowing me to explain my side of the story. Right, Wrong or Indifferent this is how it went down.

[Spectragod]

Hello again and to answer the questions asked. The gentleman who bid on the car was not the buyer. The buyer contacted me and told me he as out of town but never mentioned needing more time to send the deposit, why would he, his friend is the one who bid and obviously he was at home. The bid was placed with just a couple minutes left. once he won, he should have sent the deposit and I would have had to sell him the car. Also once I asked to cancel the transaction and he declined, he should have sent the deposit and again I would have been obligated. Was I relieved that the deposit was sent late. YES. Also As my revision to my listing stated I could not have anyone shill bid at the end as that is against ebay policy and in some states the law. I did ask the gentleman who was the last bidder to consider giving me a little more, and that I will not deny. I have close to $27,000 in this car not including advertising. If he indeed wanted the car, and would have offered a few hundred dollars more, I still would have sold the car, as I believed he really wanted it. And Yes before I was going to lose all that money I was going to keep it and enjoy going to shows with my son. I have no need to lie about any of this. I am a decent person who takes pride in being honest. Because of the harassing emails and name calling I have received through ebay, I have removed the listing. I really do not need the abuse, would you want to be on the receiving end of the harassment? I did not think so.

Wow, what a f*@king sob story...... Let's get this right, your in the car business, and were willing to take a 4k hit? I'll throw the B.S. flag on that. I know the dealer game, and plenty of dealers, I can guarantee that you don't have in the car what you are saying that you have in it. If you do, then you should get away from buying & selling cars.

Typical car dealer s*^t, ask for more money after you sold the car..... really? You say your honest, but what you posted makes -0- sense.

More than likely what happened, the buyer was out of town, and had someone watch the auction and bid for him, obviously the bidder is not going to send a deposit in this instance, hence the buyer asking for a couple of days to send the deposit. But times are so tough, you sent the deposit back and re listed the car. You should have sold the car, took the imaginary hit on it, wrote it off on your taxes and don't get that deep into a used car again......

I think people are upset because your story makes no sense. And, I can't believe a dealer would sink 27k into an 8 year old car, no miles or not, that is an incredibly crazy move, for a car that you are planning on selling, i.e. make a profit on. You'd have to get 30k for it. Does something seem wrong in this picture?

Would I want to be on the receiving end of harassment??? I'm an LEO, I get it everyday, and it's supposed to be OK, because I wear a badge, so your special how? It's a big bad world out there, the internet is even worse, you better get some thicker skin or something.....:confused:

Off my soapbox..........for now.:mad2:

[BirchMarauder]

Wow, what a f*@king sob story...... Let's get this right, your in the car business, and were willing to take a 4k hit? I'll throw the B.S. flag on that. I know the dealer game, and plenty of dealers, I can guarantee that you don't have in the car what you are saying that you have in it. If you do, then you should get away from buying & selling cars.

Typical car dealer s*^t, ask for more money after you sold the car..... really? You say your honest, but what you posted makes -0- sense.

More than likely what happened, the buyer was out of town, and had someone watch the auction and bid for him, obviously the bidder is not going to send a deposit in this instance, hence the buyer asking for a couple of days to send the deposit. But times are so tough, you sent the deposit back and re listed the car. You should have sold the car, took the imaginary hit on it, wrote it off on your taxes and don't get that deep into a used car again......

I think people are upset because your story makes no sense. And, I can't believe a dealer would sink 27k into an 8 year old car, no miles or not, that is an incredibly crazy move, for a car that you are planning on selling, i.e. make a profit on. You'd have to get 30k for it. Does something seem wrong in this picture?

Would I want to be on the receiving end of harassment??? I'm an LEO, I get it everyday, and it's supposed to be OK, because I wear a badge, so your special how? It's a big bad world out there, the internet is even worse, you better get some thicker skin or something.....:confused:

Off my soapbox..........for now.:mad2:

Perfectly said!

[stevengerard]

If the economy was better, I would have never offered it for sale to start with.

And this is irrelevant, you offered it for sale, period, you know how many people I know are saying "If the economy was better I wouldn't be selling my car" or even worse "I'd still live in my house?" :mad2:

We get it, people are selling lots of items they wish they didn't have to sell, but it still seems fishy to me.

[NXSBOB]

Hello again and to answer the questions asked. The gentleman who bid on the car was not the buyer. The buyer contacted me and told me he as out of town but never mentioned needing more time to send the deposit, why would he, his friend is the one who bid and obviously he was at home. The bid was placed with just a couple minutes left. once he won, he should have sent the deposit and I would have had to sell him the car. Also once I asked to cancel the transaction and he declined, he should have sent the deposit and again I would have been obligated. Was I relieved that the deposit was sent late. YES. Also As my revision to my listing stated I could not have anyone shill bid at the end as that is against ebay policy and in some states the law. I did ask the gentleman who was the last bidder to consider giving me a little more, and that I will not deny. I have close to $27,000 in this car not including advertising. If he indeed wanted the car, and would have offered a few hundred dollars more, I still would have sold the car, as I believed he really wanted it. And Yes before I was going to lose all that money I was going to keep it and enjoy going to shows with my son. I have no need to lie about any of this. I am a decent person who takes pride in being honest. Because of the harassing emails and name calling I have received through ebay, I have removed the listing. I really do not need the abuse, would you want to be on the receiving end of the harassment? I did not think so.
Your comments on posts 33, 37 and 39 are not consistant!
I BELIEVE BUYER VERSION, NOT "USED CAR SALESMAN" VERSION!:argue:

[Comin' in Hot]

Bottom line: it was offered at no reserve, and then you said you were keeping it when it didn't get what you really wanted for the car.

[CBT]

So the high bidder was required to make a deposit and did not meet the deadline? Is that correct?
Answer me!!!!!!!!!!

[extremecc]

Yes, the buyer did not make the deposit within the 24 hours as my ad stated!!!!! And to answer one other post. I am not exactly sure how someone could ask "who would pay $27,000 for an 8 year old car" Do you know how stupid that sounds? What does the age of the car have to do with its value? I have sold several cars recently that were at least that lod for more money. For example 2003 Dodge Viper 3,000 miles $54,200. 2004 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 with 2,200 miles $32,000, 2003 Ford Mustang Cobra Conv 2,000 miles $29,995. So really does that statement hold water? Please stop judging me. And for all the haters out there, I emailed the buyer and offered him the car for $23,500 including all fees. And of course I did not hear from him, as I suspected he was going to be a non-payer anyway so this nonsense is unnecessary!!!!!

[Ozark Marauder]

:popcorn:..........Next

[NXSBOB]

:popcorn:..........Next
+1 :popcorn::popcorn:

[SC Cheesehead]

+1 :popcorn::popcorn:


:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:... .. :sleepy:

[guspech750]

I think I wet myself. I'll be back.......................... .............................. .


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[stevengerard]

Yeah my MM must be worth at least 50k because yesterday I saw a car sell for 500k at an auction :rolleyes:. What kind of goofy logic is that, comparing a sale price of a Viper to an MM. Its nothing personal we just know our cars well and use common sense.

OK lets rephrase it for you - an 8 year old Mercury Marauder is not worth 27k but.... there are buyers out there for everything at any price - good luck, if you have the time and the financial backing to hold that car until someone pays you stupid money then good for you. If someone offered me 50k for my MM I'd take it in a heartbeat, there's always another car.

[guspech750]

I'm back. Cleaned up and dry now........................... ..

What did I miss?


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[kernie]

I'm back. Cleaned up and dry now........................... ..

What did I miss?


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Something acually interesting to read, something entertaining!

Go Newt Go!

:D

[yjmud]

hell with that logic my 1980 cutlass w/30k must be worth @ least 90% of the original sticker or more????????
I'll wave LLUB TIHS flag on this one

[Guittard22]

This is getting good :)

[Chayton]

Wow, what a f*@king sob story...... Let's get this right, your in the car business, and were willing to take a 4k hit? I'll throw the B.S. flag on that. I know the dealer game, and plenty of dealers, I can guarantee that you don't have in the car what you are saying that you have in it. If you do, then you should get away from buying & selling cars.

Typical car dealer s*^t, ask for more money after you sold the car..... really? You say your honest, but what you posted makes -0- sense.

More than likely what happened, the buyer was out of town, and had someone watch the auction and bid for him, obviously the bidder is not going to send a deposit in this instance, hence the buyer asking for a couple of days to send the deposit. But times are so tough, you sent the deposit back and re listed the car. You should have sold the car, took the imaginary hit on it, wrote it off on your taxes and don't get that deep into a used car again......

I think people are upset because your story makes no sense. And, I can't believe a dealer would sink 27k into an 8 year old car, no miles or not, that is an incredibly crazy move, for a car that you are planning on selling, i.e. make a profit on. You'd have to get 30k for it. Does something seem wrong in this picture?

Would I want to be on the receiving end of harassment??? I'm an LEO, I get it everyday, and it's supposed to be OK, because I wear a badge, so your special how? It's a big bad world out there, the internet is even worse, you better get some thicker skin or something.....:confused:

Off my soapbox..........for now.:mad2:

amen. +1


Yes, the buyer did not make the deposit within the 24 hours as my ad stated!!!!! And to answer one other post. I am not exactly sure how someone could ask "who would pay $27,000 for an 8 year old car" Do you know how stupid that sounds? What does the age of the car have to do with its value? I have sold several cars recently that were at least that lod for more money. For example 2003 Dodge Viper 3,000 miles $54,200. 2004 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 with 2,200 miles $32,000, 2003 Ford Mustang Cobra Conv 2,000 miles $29,995. So really does that statement hold water? Please stop judging me. And for all the haters out there, I emailed the buyer and offered him the car for $23,500 including all fees. And of course I did not hear from him, as I suspected he was going to be a non-payer anyway so this nonsense is unnecessary!!!!!

wtf? are you seriously comparing a marauder to a dodge viper, and a z06? totally different price ranges... mentioning those sales was completely irrelevant.

[RubberCtyRauder]

Yes, the buyer did not make the deposit within the 24 hours as my ad stated!!!!! And to answer one other post. I am not exactly sure how someone could ask "who would pay $27,000 for an 8 year old car" Do you know how stupid that sounds? What does the age of the car have to do with its value? I have sold several cars recently that were at least that lod for more money. For example 2003 Dodge Viper 3,000 miles $54,200. 2004 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 with 2,200 miles $32,000, 2003 Ford Mustang Cobra Conv 2,000 miles $29,995. So really does that statement hold water? Please stop judging me. And for all the haters out there, I emailed the buyer and offered him the car for $23,500 including all fees. And of course I did not hear from him, as I suspected he was going to be a non-payer anyway so this nonsense is unnecessary!!!!!

Interested in buying a 2900 mile 96 Impala SS in Dark Grey Green Metallic? I know where this one is, who owns it..etc

[CBT]

Answer me!!!!!!!!!!


Yes, the buyer did not make the deposit within the 24 hours as my ad stated!!!!!
Okay, sounds like you did nothing wrong then.

[NXSBOB]

Interested in buying a 2900 mile 96 Impala SS in Dark Grey Green Metallic? I know where this one is, who owns it..etc
What a way to hijack someones post/thread! :hijack:

[extremecc]

I was not comparing a Viper, Z06 Corvette or any other such vehicle. I was trying to get my point across that what difference does it make how old a vehicle is when determining its value, that is all. And to the individual who posted about the Impala SS for sale, I would be interested in that vehicle. Also as an update to those that think I was in the wrong, the bidder on the Marauder who spoke negatively about me, and who I did offer to sell the car to for his winning bid, has failed to contact me. So all this he said, she said has been for not. If he really wanted the car, he would have contacted ME!!!

[RubberCtyRauder]

What a way to hijack someones post/thread! :hijack:
It was meant to be taken sarcastically since posts were talking about low mileage, older cars and prices. I guess it didn't come across as that.

[martyo]

If anyone is going out for some snacks, please get me some Skittles!

[PonyUP]

If anyone is going out for some snacks, please get me some Skittles!

Ooh and someone get me a funnel cake


Pony seal of Approval

[Phrog_gunner]

If anyone is going out for some snacks, please get me some Skittles!

I tried to get you some skittles, but the guy at 7-11 after ringing them up, tried to get me to pay an extra $5 for them. When I told him to get bent, he said since the economy has gotten bad he doesn't want to put any more money in his pocket and instead of selling them will share them with his kid.

[SC Cheesehead]

Ooh and someone get me a funnel cake


Pony seal of Approval

As long as you're up, wanna grab me a brat?

[CBT]

As long as you're up, wanna grab me a brat?

hows about a polish sausage? 5 dolla foot long?

[NXSBOB]

I tried to get you some skittles, but the guy at 7-11 after ringing them up, tried to get me to pay an extra $5 for them. When I told him to get bent, he said since the economy has gotten bad he doesn't want to put any more money in his pocket and instead of selling them will share them with his kid.
Did he ask to be paid outside the store? :rolleyes:

[NXSBOB]

I was not comparing a Viper, Z06 Corvette or any other such vehicle. I was trying to get my point across that what difference does it make how old a vehicle is when determining its value, that is all. And to the individual who posted about the Impala SS for sale, I would be interested in that vehicle. Also as an update to those that think I was in the wrong, the bidder on the Marauder who spoke negatively about me, and who I did offer to sell the car to for his winning bid, has failed to contact me. So all this he said, she said has been for not. If he really wanted the car, he would have contacted ME!!!
I think you just made an error when you posted for sale on Ebay and did not put in a "Reserve Price".
If you really wanted to sell it, you would have tried to contact winning buyer. If there was no response, did you file a complaint about buyer to Ebay?

[guspech750]

I tried to get you some skittles, but the guy at 7-11 after ringing them up, tried to get me to pay an extra $5 for them. When I told him to get bent, he said since the economy has gotten bad he doesn't want to put any more money in his pocket and instead of selling them will share them with his kid.

LMAO!!!!

I just saw an Eagle swoop down and grab a fish out of the Fox River. Pretty damn cool!!

Sent from my iPhone
Eaton Swap + 4.10's = Wreeeeeeeeeedom!!

[CBT]

LMAO!!!!

I just saw an Eagle swoop down and grab a fish out of the Fox River. Pretty damn cool!!

Sent from my iPhone
Eaton Swap + 4.10's = Wreeeeeeeeeedom!!

They swoop down and grab giant turds out of the Cal-Sag.

[Phrog_gunner]

They swoop down and grab giant turds out of the Cal-Sag.

Hopefully you weren't hurt.

[CBT]

Hopefully you weren't hurt.
Just my feelings.

[guspech750]

Just my feelings.
:depress:Those were my turds too:alone:

[NXSBOB]

It was meant to be taken sarcastically since posts were talking about low mileage, older cars and prices. I guess it didn't come across as that.
I did take it the wrong way. My BAD.

[justbob]

The winning bidder just PM'd me back. He is a super nice guy that feels adding any more to this is simply fueling a fire, a fire that won't go out, and nothing good will ever come out of it. He left me with one comment to give out, because other members have asked him to chime in, and that's it, he's done.

"The sequence of events have been clearly documented. There is nothing to add.

It's not about one car. It is about one man's integrity - or the lack thereof."

I say we just let this come to an end for the buyer and let him move on. This was obviously not the "one" for him. Hopefully he hasn't lost interest in such a great car.

[NXSBOB]

The winning bidder just PM'd me back. He is a super nice guy that feels adding any more to this is simply fueling a fire, a fire that won't go out, and nothing good will ever come out of it. He left me with one comment to give out, because other members have asked him to chime in, and that's it, he's done.

"The sequence of events have been clearly documented. There is nothing to add.

It's not about one car. It is about one man's integrity - or the lack thereof."

I say we just let this come to an end for the buyer and let him move on. This was obviously not the "one" for him. Hopefully he hasn't lost interest in such a great car.
I too have had contact with buyer. He is a great guy that I never knew before this all started. The seller should upgrade his profession from used car salesman to shoe salesman!

[CBT]

The buyer did not make a deposit within 24 hours. End of story.

[guspech750]

The buyer did not make a deposit within 24 hours. End of story.
Oh blah blah blah. Go sit on a spin cycle!!:beatnik:

[NXSBOB]

01-28-2012, 08:31 AM
extremecc
Well, I guess you guys figured after enough bashing you would hear from me. Everyone who has commented on my actions do not know me. There are members who do as I have purchased their cars, and There are members who have purchased Marauders from me. (Anyone want to step up and say they bought/sold with this guy?) What I added to my listing is the truth. I dare anyone of you to be placed in my situation and not do what I did. It is easy to pass judgement when not having all the facts. Did you know the high bidder bid on the car for a friend? The buyer contaced me prior to bidding to inquire about shipping and then after winning the auction asked if I could assist (As in helping find a shipper?) in shipping. Also if I had received the deposit, I would have been obligated to sell the car, and for those who say why should he send the deposit, so I could keep his deposit and the car. Please, that is just an excuse as he sent the deposit anyway and I refunded it immediately. I did pay a lot of money for this Marauder because it was the best I have ever come across since buying one new. If the economy was better, I would have never offered it for sale to start with. I know that the winning bidder was not happy with me, but I did try to work it out with him, but he never got back in touch with me. Why members of this forum have the inability to mind there own business and pass judgement on me with out being in my shoes escapes me.
01-28-2012, 10:14 AM
extremecc
Hello again and to answer the questions asked. The gentleman who bid on the car was not the buyer. (I buy many parts on for a friend who does not have Ebay account. So mute issue.) The buyer contacted me and told me he as out of town but never mentioned needing more time to send the deposit, why would he, his friend is the one who bid and obviously he was at home. The bid was placed with just a couple minutes left. once he won, he should have sent the deposit and I would have had to sell him the car. Also once I asked to cancel the transaction and he declined, he should have sent the deposit and again I would have been obligated. Was I relieved that the deposit was sent late. YES. Also As my revision to my listing stated I could not have anyone shill bid at the end as that is against ebay policy and in some states the law. I did ask the gentleman who was the last bidder to consider giving me a little more (outside of Ebay? That's a no no), and that I will not deny. I have close to $27,000 in this car not including advertising (Another mute issue). If he indeed wanted the car, and would have offered a few hundred dollars (you asked for $1.5k more) more, I still would have sold the car, as I believed he really wanted it. And Yes before I was going to lose all that money I was going to keep it and enjoy going to shows with my son. I have no need to lie about any of this. I am a decent person who takes pride in being honest. Because of the harassing emails and name calling I have received through ebay, I have removed the listing. I really do not need the abuse, would you want to be on the receiving end of the harassment? I did not think so.
01-29-2012, 09:01 AM
extremecc

Yes, the buyer did not make the deposit within the 24 hours as my ad stated!!!!! And to answer one other post. I am not exactly sure how someone could ask "who would pay $27,000 for an 8 year old car" Do you know how stupid that sounds? What does the age of the car have to do with its value? I have sold several cars recently that were at least that lod for more money. For example 2003 Dodge Viper 3,000 miles $54,200. 2004 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 with 2,200 miles $32,000, 2003 Ford Mustang Cobra Conv 2,000 miles $29,995. So really does that statement hold water? Please stop judging me. And for all the haters out there, I emailed the buyer and offered him the car for $23,500 including all fees. And of course I did not hear from him, as I suspected he was going to be a non-payer anyway so this nonsense is unnecessary!!!!!
01-30-2012, 06:03 AM
extremecc

I was not comparing a Viper, Z06 Corvette or any other such vehicle. I was trying to get my point across that what difference does it make how old a vehicle is when determining its value, that is all. And to the individual who posted about the Impala SS for sale, I would be interested in that vehicle. Also as an update to those that think I was in the wrong, the bidder on the Marauder who spoke negatively about me, and who I did offer to sell the car to for his winning bid (I would love to see a copy of that email posted), has failed to contact me. So all this he said, she said has been for not. If he really wanted the car, he would have contacted ME!!!

[CBT]

01-28-2012, 08:31 AM
extremecc
Well, I guess you guys figured after enough bashing you would hear from me. Everyone who has commented on my actions do not know me. There are members who do as I have purchased their cars, and There are members who have purchased Marauders from me. (Anyone want to step up and say they bought/sold with this guy?) What I added to my listing is the truth. I dare anyone of you to be placed in my situation and not do what I did. It is easy to pass judgement when not having all the facts. Did you know the high bidder bid on the car for a friend? The buyer contaced me prior to bidding to inquire about shipping and then after winning the auction asked if I could assist (As in helping find a shipper?) in shipping. Also if I had received the deposit, I would have been obligated to sell the car, and for those who say why should he send the deposit, so I could keep his deposit and the car. Please, that is just an excuse as he sent the deposit anyway and I refunded it immediately. I did pay a lot of money for this Marauder because it was the best I have ever come across since buying one new. If the economy was better, I would have never offered it for sale to start with. I know that the winning bidder was not happy with me, but I did try to work it out with him, but he never got back in touch with me. Why members of this forum have the inability to mind there own business and pass judgement on me with out being in my shoes escapes me.
01-28-2012, 10:14 AM
extremecc
Hello again and to answer the questions asked. The gentleman who bid on the car was not the buyer. (I buy many parts on for a friend who does not have Ebay account. So mute issue.) The buyer contacted me and told me he as out of town but never mentioned needing more time to send the deposit, why would he, his friend is the one who bid and obviously he was at home. The bid was placed with just a couple minutes left. once he won, he should have sent the deposit and I would have had to sell him the car. Also once I asked to cancel the transaction and he declined, he should have sent the deposit and again I would have been obligated. Was I relieved that the deposit was sent late. YES. Also As my revision to my listing stated I could not have anyone shill bid at the end as that is against ebay policy and in some states the law. I did ask the gentleman who was the last bidder to consider giving me a little more (outside of Ebay? That's a no no), and that I will not deny. I have close to $27,000 in this car not including advertising (Another mute issue). <--(moot?)If he indeed wanted the car, and would have offered a few hundred dollars (you asked for $1.5k more) more, I still would have sold the car, as I believed he really wanted it. And Yes before I was going to lose all that money I was going to keep it and enjoy going to shows with my son. I have no need to lie about any of this. I am a decent person who takes pride in being honest. Because of the harassing emails and name calling I have received through ebay, I have removed the listing. I really do not need the abuse, would you want to be on the receiving end of the harassment? I did not think so.
01-29-2012, 09:01 AM
extremecc

Yes, the buyer did not make the deposit within the 24 hours as my ad stated!!!!! And to answer one other post. I am not exactly sure how someone could ask "who would pay $27,000 for an 8 year old car" Do you know how stupid that sounds? What does the age of the car have to do with its value? I have sold several cars recently that were at least that lod for more money. For example 2003 Dodge Viper 3,000 miles $54,200. 2004 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 with 2,200 miles $32,000, 2003 Ford Mustang Cobra Conv 2,000 miles $29,995. So really does that statement hold water? Please stop judging me. And for all the haters out there, I emailed the buyer and offered him the car for $23,500 including all fees. And of course I did not hear from him, as I suspected he was going to be a non-payer anyway so this nonsense is unnecessary!!!!!
01-30-2012, 06:03 AM
extremecc

I was not comparing a Viper, Z06 Corvette or any other such vehicle. I was trying to get my point across that what difference does it make how old a vehicle is when determining its value, that is all. And to the individual who posted about the Impala SS for sale, I would be interested in that vehicle. Also as an update to those that think I was in the wrong, the bidder on the Marauder who spoke negatively about me, and who I did offer to sell the car to for his winning bid (I would love to see a copy of that email posted), has failed to contact me. So all this he said, she said has been for not. If he really wanted the car, he would have contacted ME!!!

Buyer did make the deposit as required within 24 hours. All arguements are useless.