4.30's first impressions

[justbob]

I picked up my hooptie tonight from Hans at Deans Performance after having my 31 spline set up (Thanks Melanie!) And slightly used 4.30 gear I bought over the summer installed. I was really scared to go foreward with the gear from all the nay sayers around here, some I listen, respect, and trust their opinion, but it seems the vast majority have never even owned 4.30's..., and with Joe begging me weekly, I said screw it. Remember FIRST impressions, and I change my mind more than fish drink water... I figured at his awesome price of $250 I could just have him replace it again worst case senario. I went from stock gear to this for no reason really, just like to be little different, damn near new gear set for $80 locally, and opinions are just that, opinions. Easy to change if me no likey.

I have put about 40 miles or so on and so far AWESOME! This was every aspect from stop and go, 45, and up to 70 on the highway. No drone even with my exhaust, MUCH peppier when in overdrive easing into the gas to maintain speed, and overall the feeling of no "loose throttle, hesitation, lag" basically set your tow down and blink and your at 55.

Cons, anything above 60 you start to see where fuel economy is gonna suffer. Amazingly, I am only 50 RPMS higher at 55 then I was. Now is the trade off, it takes more gas to maintain speed above 60, just a pinch more, but definately more. 70 and your at 2500 RPM and the car feels "ready to RUN" That may be a little annoying on long road trips, but I do that maybe twice a year tops. The faster you try to push it, the more she starts to really climb in RPM's and you definately feel the engine working harder. Good thing my ageing self is all about launching and accelerating, but have no desire or care for high speeds anymore. I normally just click the cruise at 70/75 or so, now it will be 65/70, no big deal, I'm not too much in a hurry anymore, I do plenty of that at work!

Also, I am a little curious now on how she will run at the track. Sure, I would like to know the new diffference in ET's but more worried I am gonna run out of gear and may need to step up to a taller than stock tire? All I know is I am definately not running them 26" tires anymore LOL! If everything goes as planned, I won't get the chance to see the ET's anyhow as I am planning to finally install my 3500 mile cobra short block, valve job, COMP cams, POSI port, 2.8 upper, 4LB lower, the new Walbro 400 pump, and killer chiller way before the track opens. But that is only if my taxes don't hit too hard and work stays stable, otherwise back on the back burner. "Just a toy"

The last thing I miss is my 39 MPH downshift! Now its 30! :eek: Oh well, just have to relearn the car I guess?

I set this car up for around town fun, that is 95% of my driving. I was a little concerned that I would have to have Zack lower my OD down as I had him set it to not go into OD till 53 MPH and lock up at 65 awile back. As luck would have it, there must have been another variable that works off of because it goes in at 42 now with lock up at 47 is still just as perfect feeling as it was before.

Traction? Can't answer that one as it was only 41* when I drove it. So yes, even at 70 the tires immediately got to spinnin before I was even all the way to the floor. (Gotta love a roots blower!)

Joe's gonna take the car and give her some drive time and give her some spankings to compare his 4.10's and very similiar build to my set up, but I can't see him thinking its too much different to his as I don't think it was all that. Hell, I'm even tempted to try 4.56's now!

Give me a couple months and some warmer temps to get you all a better comparison, but for now, i'd say just do it if it isn't a DD on the highway. I feels so damn strong and ready to take names.

[DOOM]

Enjoy my Friend. :burn:


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[guspech750]

Yes. I love the ease of accelerating up to highway speeds. Just takes a little press of the pedal. I do miss the big downshift into 2nd gear at highway speeds though. Love the instant get up and go with light throttle.

Man. I can't wait to put both cars through the paces and really compare the gears instead off all this he said he said bullcrap. You are probably right as I won't feel much of a difference. We will see soon. Very soon!!


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[BUCKWHEAT]

No BS. I ran 4:30s for 50K miles on stock internals and Trilogy S/C. Drove the car on the highway a lot. The Mod Motors love RPM & my view was it didn't matter. Drag raced it mid 12s at 111 or so. No issue with running out of RPMs. Around town and on the road course, the 4:30s made the engine feel effortless, not laboring.

When I switched to the forged stroker, I went down to 3:73s to see what happens with the higher HP. No track time yet, but the ported Trilogy on the stroker really lites the tires around town. Enjoy your 4:30s. Don't look back!

[PonyUP]

Awesome, I lived my 4.10s on the old car, will you see a difference in mpg? Yes, will you care? No

Everytime I see your car you got something new done to it and it just makes it more impressive. Let's me know where to go with my car :)


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[burt ragio]

I would think with the 4:30 gears they would put the motor right in the power band. What is your rpm at 30 mph and 80 mph ?

[Triple Threat]

I used 4:56 gears in Purple Panther for 5 years on stock rear end & 26"tires. Car ran 11.3 @118, 1.7 60 ft. Cross finish line @7200 rpm Car picked up 1/2 sec over 4.10 gears

[justbob]

I used 4:56 gears in Purple Panther for 5 years on stock rear end & 26"tires. Car ran 11.3 @118, 1.7 60 ft. Cross finish line @7200 rpm Car picked up 1/2 sec over 4.10 gears

Very good info! Thanks. She is currently 12.3 at 109 with stock gear and 26" tires. Now I'm really courious.

[justbob]

I would think with the 4:30 gears they would put the motor right in the power band. What is your rpm at 30 mph and 80 mph ?

I just got back from getting pain meds from yesterdays adventures.. Anyways I haven't verified MPH with the Garmin yet and the Pioneer doesn't give MPH readings but she feels right. At holding 30, she's dead on 1700 RPM's.

Give me a week or so to hit the highway for you and I will also take the Garmin to verify accuratecy.

[tbone]

One of my fave mods was the 4.10's. So much stronger around town.:burnout:

Congrats on the gears Bob!

[TAKEDOWN]

Be sure to check in again if you change your mind! I'm curious to see how she runs now!

[TFB]

I really don't see how 4.30s could be a issue, with O/D final ratio is a 2.88... Hell in the 60s/70s grandma's 302/351/390/429 LTD used between a 2.80 & 3.00 rear and the converters didn't have lockup(of course they had no O/D), nobody thought the engines were turning too many RPMs...

[71cyclone]

I really don't see how 4.30s could be a issue, with O/D final ratio is a 2.88... Hell in the 60s/70s grandma's 302/351/390/429 LTD used between a 2.80 & 3.00 rear and the converters didn't have lockup(of course they had no O/D), nobody thought the engines were turning too many RPMs...
My 71 mark III had a 2.80 rear and had no problem doing 120 mph [ A -460 :banana: with D code heads

[RF Overlord]

Remember that grandpa's LTD also had 15" wheels...and that many of the "muscle" cars had 14s...

[Bradley G]

Get the correct stall for that set-up and you can go WOT into overdrive and not concern yourself with tire size.

[Da Dark Jedi]

I've had the 4:30 gears since day one of ownership. Next time out try mine... but since you're SCed it may be slow.

[TAKEDOWN]

^^^ I didn't know that, how does it run NA? Do you like it and who tuned your MARAUDER? ^^^

[Da Dark Jedi]

^^^ I didn't know that, how does it run NA? Do you like it and who tuned your MARAUDER? ^^^


Pretty strong off the line, never took it WOT, DR tune with Zack Trans shift mod to it. You're welcome to try it next time to see. But in Jan 2004 DR was the only tune that we had, now we have Lidio & Marty. How times have changed.

[jstevens]

Pretty strong off the line, never took it WOT, DR tune with Zack Trans shift mod to it. You're welcome to try it next time to see. But in Jan 2004 DR was the only tune that we had, now we have Lidio & Marty. How times have changed.

As you can tell from my stats, I've been around awhile. And boy are you right, who would've thought all the things that have changed over the years with this car and the membership. On both sites.

Its a completely new crowd, kinda interesting. The same questions being asked repeatedly, But I don't mind as it gives us more reasons to talk about this car.

[justbob]

Pretty strong off the line, never took it WOT, DR tune with Zack Trans shift mod to it. You're welcome to try it next time to see. But in Jan 2004 DR was the only tune that we had, now we have Lidio & Marty. How times have changed.

Watch what you say Leon! Last time I flipped Drew the keys he launched mine from 0 and in seconds he hit a buck twenty down Central! :D It was fun, he's a damn good driver.:thumbup: Felt like I was in the video game Need for Speed. :eek:

[guspech750]

I've had the 4:30 gears since day one of ownership. Next time out try mine... but since you're SCed it may be slow.

No *****? I had no idea!! That's so cool!!


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[na svt]

4.10s are a hwy gear with the Marauders tall tire. The n/a combos should be running no less than a 4.30. My mustang with 4.10s and a 26" needs more gear.
Maruaders are very heavy cars and that puts a high load on the engine. Steeper gears will get the car moving easier and put less heat in the engine, especially when supercharged.

Regarding the comment about 4Vs loving RPM, I wish that was true for the 03/04 n/a engines. Their intake cams cause peak to occur below 6k; not exactly a high rpm engine. Add some cams that stretch out the powerband and add tq and mid range power and take it to 7k all day.


Remember that grandpa's LTD also had 15" wheels...and that many of the "muscle" cars had 14s...
Yes, but they had tall tires, some were as tall or taller than those on the Marauders

26" tire 245/45-17

Read End Gear: 3.73
Engine RPM: 2079
Vehicle Speed: 60

Read End Gear: 4.10
Engine RPM: 2286
Vehicle Speed: 60

Read End Gear: 4.30
Engine RPM: 2397
Vehicle Speed: 60

Read End Gear: 4.56
Engine RPM: 2542
Vehicle Speed: 60

28.5" tire 245/55-18

Read End Gear: 4.10
Engine RPM: 2052
Vehicle Speed: 60

Read End Gear: 4.30
Engine RPM: 2152
Vehicle Speed: 60

Read End Gear: 4.56
Engine RPM: 2282
Vehicle Speed: 60

[prchrman]

I waited a while to go with the 4.10s but when we bought my wife's Sport Trac I noticed it had 4.10s from the factory and so I says what's good for the Trac is good for the Mo. Love the 4.10s.

[TAKEDOWN]

Watch what you say Leon! Last time I flipped Drew the keys he launched mine from 0 and in seconds he hit a buck twenty down Central! :D It was fun, he's a damn good driver.:thumbup: Felt like I was in the video game Need for Speed. :eek:

... and I recently got a shot at Sgt Mac's Shelby, which btw is NOT a Mustang! Let's just say... :burnout:

[marauder21]

Could sound like an unintelligent question but from what I been reading and such, the 4.10s on the marauder are PERFECT. But getting 4.30s looks Like it could be the next step? I mean the way I kinda see it is 4.10s is for minimal modded marauders and 4.30s for a highly modded marauder? Or am I wrong...? Haha lol

[na svt]

Could sound like an unintelligent question but from what I been reading and such, the 4.10s on the marauder are PERFECT. But getting 4.30s looks Like it could be the next step? I mean the way I kinda see it is 4.10s is for minimal modded marauders and 4.30s for a highly modded marauder? Or am I wrong...? Haha lol
For an n/a MM 4.10s should be the minimum gear with a 28.5" tire and are the standard gear for Mustangs which have a 26" tire. Note in y post abovethat a 4.56 in a Marauder results the same RPM at 60mph as a 4.10 in a Mustang. The higher the power the less gear a combo needs, but going with the steepest gear you can stand will reduce the load on the engine/trans which will add some life.

Marauder owners have been afraid of the gear for years and I find this hard as hell to understand...this heavy car needs a steep gear!

[Da Dark Jedi]

At one time we had a member here (BillyG-Man) who had installed 4:55 gears in his Marauder. Some of you may remember the first Youtube video of his Marauder doing a burnout. But for you old Windy City members back in 03-05 in Willowbrook Il we would toss each other the keys whenever someone did a new mod. Hell, we had such a good time the Willowbrook Police & Fire dept would attend some of our meets. Those meets was known as "Chicken runs", 15 or so Maruders in Del Rays parking lot.

[mgmsleeper]

Not to hijack im sure N/A others want to know too

Ok well my car is N/A I have a Zack Tune, JLT, ZERO cats, Borla mufflers with 4"tips. Car is a daily driver in the city and on the highway for road trips.*

Should I go 4.10 or 4.30?*

[marauder21]

Not to hijack im sure N/A others want to know too

Ok well my car is N/A I have a Zack Tune, JLT, ZERO cats, Borla mufflers with 4"tips. Car is a daily driver in the city and on the highway for road trips.*

Should I go 4.10 or 4.30?*

Yeah what he said ^^ my car is bone stock other than JLT and later hopefully get tuned...so suggestions for this guy? Haha .10 or .30

[Da Dark Jedi]

It's a matter of what you want. My 4:30s, I lose a little MPH on the top end say about 80 or so MPH but in the city I love it. As mention you'll see a increase in RPM about 200. I did forget to mention that, at the time when mods first came about we did find that installing of Metal Matrix Drive shaft was necessary to reduce harmonics, but it was for those that went higher than 4:10s like myself.

The "Harmonics" that I mention was the results of the increase in RPMs on the Drive Shaft. The OEM DS was not properly balanced (if I remember correctly) to handle the increase RPMs. The one mod I still have to do is the Stud & Girdle kit on the rear-end.

[mgmsleeper]

It's a matter of what you want. My 4:30s, I lose a little MPH on the top end say about 80 or so MPH but in the city I love it. As mention you'll see a increase in RPM about 200. I did forget to mention that, at the time when mods first came about we did find that installing of Metal Matrix Drive shaft was necessary to reduce harmonics, but it was for those that went higher than 4:10s like myself.

The "Harmonics" that I mention was the results of the increase in RPMs on the Drive Shaft. The OEM DS was not properly balanced (if I remember correctly) to handle the increase RPMs. The one mod I still have to do is the Stud & Girdle kit on the rear-end.


with 138 on my clock im just making it fun while it last. im thinking of which combo of mods to go with (3200 stall, gears, headers, cams) but till be able to enjoy it on the highway on road trips as well as daily in city driving and playing. everyone says "lose top end" are you saying you redline?

[Da Dark Jedi]

so at 80 where is your rpm?


Can't say right now, but next time I bring her out I'll take notes at RPM @ MPH. That won't happen until summer.

[SC Cheesehead]

with 138 on my clock im just making it fun while it last. im thinking of which combo of mods to go with (3200 stall, gears, headers, cams) but till be able to enjoy it on the highway on road trips as well as daily in city driving and playing. everyone says "lose top end" are you saying you redline?


lose top end = lose top speed

Engine will still redline, you'll just be going slower when it gets there.

[mgmsleeper]

lose top end = lose top speed

Engine will still redline, you'll just be going slower when it gets there.


so whats the top speed of a Marauder with 4.30s? what speed and RPM will the power start to fall off?

[justbob]

so whats the top speed of a Marauder with 4.30s? what speed and RPM will the power start to fall off?

If all goes as planned I will have a dyno in less than two months showing engine power (cobra short block) with cams and every pulley I can throw at it plus a killer chiller. You will have to wait a couple months for track times and RPM's. As I have no room in the budget for new DR's it will be on street tires but that also gives real world results.

I can't believe how freakin hard she is shifting under normal driving conditions now? This is the shift I have been chasing for since the Jmod years back! LOVE IT! But why now? All I did was enter 4.30 in my tune? Shouldn't that only change when it shifts? Regaurdless, lovin every minute. Feels like an ANIMAL when you drive normal! Way too cold to give any WOT thoughts. The pedal doesn't even make it half way down at any speed and the tires RIP.. I gave up at 70 the other night, at 31 degrees, there wasn't a chance in hell of her sticking.

[PonyUP]

If all goes as planned I will have a dyno in less than two months showing engine power (cobra short block) with cams and every pulley I can throw at it plus a killer chiller. You will have to wait a couple months for track times and RPM's. As I have no room in the budget for new DR's it will be on street tires but that also gives real world results.

I can't believe how freakin hard she is shifting under normal driving conditions now? This is the shift I have been chasing for since the Jmod years back! LOVE IT! But why now? All I did was enter 4.30 in my tune? Shouldn't that only change when it shifts? Regaurdless, lovin every minute. Feels like an ANIMAL when you drive normal! Way too cold to give any WOT thoughts. The pedal doesn't even make it half way down at any speed and the tires RIP.. I gave up at 70 the other night, at 31 degrees, there wasn't a chance in hell of her sticking.

Great *******, now your going to cost me more money. Trying to keep up with you is expensive, and I F'n love it

Glad your happy bud


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[mgmsleeper]

If all goes as planned I will have a dyno in less than two months showing engine power (cobra short block) with cams and every pulley I can throw at it plus a killer chiller. You will have to wait a couple months for track times and RPM's. As I have no room in the budget for new DR's it will be on street tires but that also gives real world results.

I can't believe how freakin hard she is shifting under normal driving conditions now? This is the shift I have been chasing for since the Jmod years back! LOVE IT! But why now? All I did was enter 4.30 in my tune? Shouldn't that only change when it shifts? Regaurdless, lovin every minute. Feels like an ANIMAL when you drive normal! Way too cold to give any WOT thoughts. The pedal doesn't even make it half way down at any speed and the tires RIP.. I gave up at 70 the other night, at 31 degrees, there wasn't a chance in hell of her sticking.

So your mods are cobra block with cams, jmod, 4.30s, Pullies and it's reacting like that?*

[guspech750]

So your mods are cobra block with cams, jmod, 4.30s, Pullies and it's reacting like that?*

No. He's on the stock MM engine now. He is in the process of gathering parts for his Cobra short block.


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[PonyUP]

So your mods are cobra block with cams, jmod, 4.30s, Pullies and it's reacting like that?*

No, no, no, he has a hell of a lot more done to it than that. Honestly Bob has one if the best Marauders I've seen.

I'll let him list all his mods, but he had a real beast.


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[CBT]

Sounds crazy! :beer:

[mgmsleeper]

Damn I got my hopes up lol

[justbob]

So your mods are cobra block with cams, jmod, 4.30s, Pullies and it's reacting like that?*

No, not this very moment. Right now stock block, Trilogy, 3.2 pulley, JLT, Kurgan tuned, MAC LT's Custom X, no cats, electric cutouts and Jmod. That's the basics of it with supporting miner mods. Just lookin to up the anty after three years of most of that.






No. He's on the stock MM engine now. He is in the process of gathering parts for his Cobra short block.


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No, no, no, he has a hell of a lot more done to it than that. Honestly Bob has one if the best Marauders I've seen.

I'll let him list all his mods, but he had a real beast.


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You don't get out much huh? LOL Thanks man!








Sounds crazy! :beer:
It IS in this weather! :thumbup::beer:

[Da Dark Jedi]

Dang JB is at it again!!! Mo power.

[PonyUP]

Dang JB is at it again!!! Mo power.

Bobby is building the dream machine. I frickin love his ride.


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[Da Dark Jedi]

Bobby is building the dream machine. I frickin love his ride.


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Going to break the "Space time continum"! Wake up and no one in his family ages 'cause he put em in the car at the right moment. The year is 2525 :beer:!

[PonyUP]

Going to break the "Space time continum"! Wake up and no one in his family ages 'cause he put em in the car at the right moment. The year is 2525 :beer:!

Must be the flux capacitor I bought him last year


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[SGT_MERC]

All this talk made me lower the asking price on my GM so I can get my Marauder. Too many good selections out there right now to wait.

[CBT]

Bobby is building the dream machine. I frickin love his ride.


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Biotch is bad, no doubt. His was idling beside mine at one of the Hershey events and Amy asks me "How come yours doesn't sound as good as his?" :(

[PonyUP]

Biotch is bad, no doubt. His was idling beside mine at one of the Hershey events and Amy asks me "How come yours doesn't sound as good as his?" :(

Doh!!!!!!

And boom go the dynamite


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[justbob]

You guys are nuts :p

Okay RPM's cruizing at 75 ~ 2700 / 80 ~ 2850

Nobody's gonna want me in the Louisville convoy this year... :o

[Da Dark Jedi]

You guys are nuts :p

Okay RPM's cruizing at 75 ~ 2700 / 80 ~ 2850

Nobody's gonna want me in the Louisville convoy this year... :o


Thats because when you leave later than everybody else, you'll be the first one there:mad2:. The worst part is, you won't be trying :beer:. Dang that car is fast!


Forgot to add, all you SCed Marauders better watch out, Dom wants his trophy back. Fastest Car in The Windy City.:flamer:

[mgmsleeper]

You guys are nuts :p

Okay RPM's cruizing at 75 ~ 2700 / 80 ~ 2850

Nobody's gonna want me in the Louisville convoy this year... :o

Will it be the same N/A?

[justbob]

Forgot to add, all you SCed Marauders better watch out, Dom wants his trophy back. Fastest Car in The Windy City.:flamer:


That should NOT be an issue to add another one. :D

Just one looks out of place..



Will it be the same N/A?
Yes. That is cruizing and maintaining speed for any Marauder.

[justbob]

Second thought..

Zack or Doug will probably show up this time :( LOL Them boys know how to represent!

[guspech750]

You guys are nuts :p

Okay RPM's cruizing at 75 ~ 2700 / 80 ~ 2850

Nobody's gonna want me in the Louisville convoy this year... :o

:( I might not be able to leave until Wed night or earlier Thur morning now.


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[justbob]

:( I might not be able to leave until Wed night or earlier Thur morning now.


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You fail. I have a Jmod to do in Kentucky Wed afternoon/night and already booked the room.

[guspech750]

My room is booked for Wed too so far. Who is the Jmod for? Mike?


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[justbob]

That would be "Kentucky Mike". ;)

[Embassy]

Congrats from another blown Marauder owner with 4.30's.

[CBT]

That would be "Kentucky Mike". ;)
That is exactly how I have him saved on my cell phone, believe it or not.

[PonyUP]

You fail. I have a Jmod to do in Kentucky Wed afternoon/night and already booked the room.

I'll be there Wednesday night, what time will depend on when the gf can get out of work


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[justbob]

WOW! I finally got her to hook! I was getting on the tollway and nailed it at 55 and the rear bit down so hard I thought it punctured the concrete!:eek: At around 80 she shifted into 3rd so damn hard my speedo JUMPED up to 85. I let off at 90 thinking holy hell...., that just took place in a couple seconds!;)

Still happy? Can I get a WINNING in here?:D

Why oh why did I wait so long?

[Da Dark Jedi]

:banana2::banana2::banana2::bo ws:


There you go JB!!!

[guspech750]

WOW! I finally got her to hook! I was getting on the tollway and nailed it at 55 and the rear bit down so hard I thought it punctured the concrete!:eek: At around 80 she shifted into 3rd so damn hard my speedo JUMPED up to 85. I let off at 90 thinking holy hell...., that just took place in a couple seconds!;)

Still happy? Can I get a WINNING in here?:D

Why oh why did I wait so long?

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaa boyeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!


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[Vortech347]

I wish these cars would have gotten a better transmission, with a nice 5-speed auto going with such extremely steep gears wouldn't need to be so important.

I'd really like to take a 5-speed auto from an S197 and throw it in.

[bugsyc]

With your new 4:30's do you lose traction off the line with just a lite touch to the accelerator??? I know you don't have to floor it to spin the wheels but,how light a touch do you need to not leave rubber on the road???

[SC Cheesehead]

With your new 4:30's do you lose traction off the line with just a lite touch to the accelerator??? I know you don't have to floor it to spin the wheels but,how light a touch do you need to not leave rubber on the road???

With a Roots-type blower, you're going to increase low end response substantially, so a light tough is going to be required with ANY rear gear combination. A goodly number of Trilogy and Eaton guys have kept the OEM 3.55s and get great performance out of them. I already had 4.10s in my car from the NA mods I'd done, so I've kept 'em in, and it doesn't take a real heavy foot to break the rear end loose; I'd imagine 4.30's would be more so.

[guspech750]

With a Roots-type blower, you're going to increase low end response substantially, so a light tough is going to be required with ANY rear gear combination. A goodly number of Trilogy and Eaton guys have kept the OEM 3.55s and get great performance out of them. I already had 4.10s in my car from the NA mods I'd done, so I've kept 'em in, and it doesn't take a real heavy foot to break the rear end loose; I'd imagine 4.30's would be more so.

Let's not get all techy here now.

For best results, just stab and go:burnout:

;)


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[SC Cheesehead]

Let's not get all techy here now.

For best results, just stab and go:burnout:

;)


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Agreed, but if bugsy is worried about off the line traction with a heavy foot, he ain't gonna want 4.30s, especially if he's running OEM rear tires.

[CBT]

WOW! I finally got her to hook! I was getting on the tollway and nailed it at 55 and the rear bit down so hard I thought it punctured the concrete!:eek: At around 80 she shifted into 3rd so damn hard my speedo JUMPED up to 85. I let off at 90 thinking holy hell...., that just took place in a couple seconds!;)

Still happy? Can I get a WINNING in here?:D

Why oh why did I wait so long?

Well, duh! WINNING !! :beer:

[justbob]

With your new 4:30's do you lose traction off the line with just a lite touch to the accelerator??? I know you don't have to floor it to spin the wheels but,how light a touch do you need to not leave rubber on the road???
It's all in the matter of how "fast" you give her gas, not how much. In this weather with a roots car and any gear, a quick snap of, well any snap of, lets just say an 1/8th throttle and round and round they go..:burnout:

You NEVER go WOT in temps hovering in the 40's!

[SC Cheesehead]

It's all in the matter of how "fast" you give her gas, not how much. In this weather with a roots car and any gear, a quick snap of, well any snap of, lets just say an 1/8th throttle and round and round they go..:burnout:

You NEVER go WOT in temps hovering in the 40's!

^^^^^ What he said! ^^^^^

[guspech750]

Just took a few spins in Bobs car and all I can say is..................... Oh yeaaaaaaaaaaaa. 4.30's FTMFW!!

I might have to ditch the 4.10's now Bob!!


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[guspech750]

I forgot to add that I tried to take some pics of JB's car having some fun

BUT


Both my camera and I equalled total FAIL:(


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[CBT]

Just took a few spins in Bobs car and all I can say is..................... Oh yeaaaaaaaaaaaa. 4.30's FTMFW!!

I might have to ditch the 4.10's now Bob!!


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[Wattman1]

You NEVER go WOT in temps hovering in the 40's!

Sorry - FNG here. Why not? :confused:

[justbob]

Sorry - FNG here. Why not? :confused:

Sorry, this was regaurding a S/C'd car. Anything under 60* can be like roller skating on ice.

[clmrt]

I was going to say -

Colder air = more power potential
Colder tires = less traction

Did I win?

[Embassy]

I was going to say -

Colder air = more power potential
Colder tires = less traction

Did I win?

Yup. At least that's why I don't go WOT when it's chilly out.

[CBT]

Sorry, this was regaurding a S/C'd car. Anything under 60* can be like roller skating on ice.

Ain't that called ice skating? :P

[justbob]

Ain't that called ice skating? :P
No. I actually meant old skool, steel wheel four wheeler skates! ON ICE. :eek: Don't ya remember them days old man? I do!

[guspech750]

No. I actually meant old skool, steel wheel four wheeler skates! ON ICE. :eek: Don't ya remember them days old man? I do!

When you say four wheeler skates. Do you really mean making messy in your pants?








FK me. Sorry. Off topic.





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