Projector Upgrade!!!!

[NATEHAWK]

After seeing a few members here made the plunge I couldn't resist. I purchased a spare set just for this project for a rather cheap fee from a member on the forum. I went with the H1 Morimoto Projectors with the E46 Extended Shrouds and the final touch the ANGEL EYES effect like on BMW's, I always was envy of a BMW at dusk with there parking lamps on. Lightwerks does fantastic work and provided me with excellent customer service as well as communication by email of everything step and process. Was it cheap NOPE! But you get what you pay for. And I like high quality. Check out a few before and after pictures and check the link out for the full write up. My lights are being shipped tomorrow. http://img.tapatalk.com/a6937609-9411-0cee.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/a6937609-9420-7f00.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/a6937609-9435-e6ca.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/a6937609-944c-a761.jpg

[clmrt]

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[Dj1]

I'm definitely doing this.. When I get some $$$


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[rossv1]

Love them natehawk. Are you going to wire the angel eyes to a separate switch like i did or run them to the parking lights?

[Blackened300a]

Saw a set of these in person. Very impressive.

[DOOM]

You need to drive that beast to my house!!! :drool:

[MOTOWN]

Awsome bud!

[breeze]

Hmmm, I like those

[crabby125]

Nice, I have projectors on my cv and I love the output of them.though I am having a seal problem right now which hopefully is an easy fix. It's probably my most favorite mod.

[guspech750]

Boy. That mod is really growing on me.


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[burt ragio]

Are they the H1 morimoto mini ?
What bulbs did you get ?

[NATEHAWK]

Love them natehawk. Are you going to wire the angel eyes to a separate switch like i did or run them to the parking lights?

Naw I'm just going to use some scotch taps and connect them to my parking lights so they come on then. Angel Eyes+Parking Lamps+HID Foglights=Light Sex appeal

[NATEHAWK]

Are they the H1 morimoto mini ?
You got it man

What bulbs did you get ?
6k Bulbs going in

[Mercguy04]

Nice Job. I saw them at Fuddr.... they look fantastic.
Any thinking about them should just do it
Cost is a factor here, other than that go for it

[TAKEDOWN]

I like the black surround inside and around the light, I can't wait to see it on your MARAUDER!

[NATEHAWK]

Here's the writeup from Lightwerks

http://www.lightwerkz.net/news/2012/02/07/nathans-mercury-marauder-h1-bixenon-conversion/

[MOTOWN]

Im so tempted to do this mod! just droooling!!!!!!!

[Serge]

Welcome to the club.

[bolsen]

The full Morimoto kit is 300 with ALL the components. They basically self install through the back where the old light bulb used to go through, then you screw a nut over the piece sticking out. How much did they charge you for this?

[crabby125]

The full Morimoto kit is 300 with ALL the components. They basically self install through the back where the old light bulb used to go through, then you screw a nut over the piece sticking out. How much did they charge you for this?

You can get the full morimoto kit for 270 with free shipping if you use the code TRS34, says on the page but I think thats what it is. I believe lightwerkz is about 6-700 bucks, but it depends on what you get, MH1's will be cheaper then FX-R's.


Here is the set a friend built for my car with MH1's, and it only cost 100 for labor

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/321344_2310620805566_125075115 0_32773663_5981351_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/298555_2310620885568_125075115 0_32773664_1560696_n.jpg

[guspech750]

You can get the full morimoto kit for 270 with free shipping if you use the code TRS34, says on the page but I think thats what it is. I believe lightwerkz is about 6-700 bucks, but it depends on what you get, MH1's will be cheaper then FX-R's.


Here is the set a friend built for my car with MH1's, and it only cost 100 for labor

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/321344_2310620805566_125075115 0_32773663_5981351_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/298555_2310620885568_125075115 0_32773664_1560696_n.jpg

That looks great.


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[bolsen]

You can get the full morimoto kit for 270 with free shipping if you use the code TRS34, says on the page but I think thats what it is. I believe lightwerkz is about 6-700 bucks, but it depends on what you get, MH1's will be cheaper then FX-R's.


Here is the set a friend built for my car with MH1's, and it only cost 100 for labor

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/321344_2310620805566_125075115 0_32773663_5981351_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/298555_2310620885568_125075115 0_32773664_1560696_n.jpg
I'm PUMPED for this mod. To me, lighting is the single most important mod a car can have. Good headlights=awesome look/awesome safety. I will be installing in about 10 days!!!

[martyo]

Looks killer.

What is the going rate for this mod?

[cougar9150]

That looks great, would love to see some pics with them installed with just the parking lamps (angel eye s) on.

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[bolsen]

Looks killer.

What is the going rate for this mod?

For the intro level kit (Morimoto H1) it's $270 for ALL the parts. If you can install yourself which is basically easy as changing a light bulb, no fee. To have a company make it for you, like $7-1100.

[bolsen]

theretrofitsource dot com

[martyo]

For the intro level kit (Morimoto H1) it's $270 for ALL the parts. If you can install yourself which is basically easy as changing a light bulb, no fee. To have a company make it for you, like $7-1100.

Is the higher figure what lightwerks charges?

[fastblackmerc]

Is the higher figure what lightwerks charges?

Yes........

[Odinson]

Something like that. They only gave me a range.

It seems to be much more involved. A manufacturing process.
remove light
Take off front plate.
paint?
Mount projector.
angel eyes?
chrome fairing?
wire up stock connector.
seal lens.
reinstall light.

Personally I'd want it all blacked out.

I think it looks so different on the car because it matches the shape of the fog lights. The stock headlights look nice on their own but match nothing. Fog lights should have been rectangular and maybe even mirrored...

...or projectors should have come stock.

[SILVERSURFER03]

Can't wait to see them installed nate .....

[marauder410]

yea if id do this i would black out around the bulb inside like in first pic that looks so bad ass

so how much difference of light would you get comparing the

hid 6k vs
projectors ???

[bolsen]

Like comparing halogens to HIDs. It's a HUGE difference.

[bolsen]

Something like that. They only gave me a range.

It seems to be much more involved. A manufacturing process.
remove light
Take off front plate.
paint?
Mount projector.
angel eyes?
chrome fairing?
wire up stock connector.
seal lens.
reinstall light.

Personally I'd want it all blacked out.

I think it looks so different on the car because it matches the shape of the fog lights. The stock headlights look nice on their own but match nothing. Fog lights should have been rectangular and maybe even mirrored...

...or projectors should have come stock.

Don't let them fool you. The process is VERy easy with the Morimoto's. Now, if you're using an FX projector, it's difficult. But the Morimoto's were designed to basically plug and play. Google the process.

Take the lenses off with heat gun.
Remove old light bulb reflector.
Put the Projector through the old light bulb hole.
Secure with nut.
Re-seal lense with OEM glue (can't remember the name).
Re install the headlight unit.

Wire HID ballasts as you would with anyother kit.

If you want to paint the inside (which I will be doing) use auto paint. I have some already from my S-55 tail light treatment.
Angel eyes are easy too, just install ring aroung the projector shroud and pull the wires through the back and wire them into the parking lights or headlights.

It's SUPER easy.

[TUXrauder]

I want this kit...

Please advise part #'s needed... and where!!!



You can get the full morimoto kit for 270 with free shipping if you use the code TRS34, says on the page but I think thats what it is. I believe lightwerkz is about 6-700 bucks, but it depends on what you get, MH1's will be cheaper then FX-R's.


Here is the set a friend built for my car with MH1's, and it only cost 100 for labor

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/321344_2310620805566_125075115 0_32773663_5981351_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/298555_2310620885568_125075115 0_32773664_1560696_n.jpg

[BirchMarauder]

Take the lenses off with heat gun.
Remove old light bulb reflector.
Put the Projector through the old light bulb hole.
Secure with nut.
Re-seal lense with OEM glue (can't remember the name).
Re install the headlight unit.

.

I would NOT recommend re-sealing the headlights until you've gotten the correct alignment and aim. sealing up the lights should be the VERY VERY VERY last thing as you don't want to have to re-open after putting fresh butyl glue back in the channel.

[bolsen]

I didn't list every step, but that one is a given. I was just trying to point out that it is NOT $300-700 worth of work. Not with the Morimotos.

[Odinson]

Two questions about the Morimotos...

Can you paint with spray cans, or does it have to be a spray paint gun to look good? Seems at that scale it would come nice even with a can, but what do I know.

Does the Morimotos projector assembly come apart so you can paint the chrome housing black as well?

Thanks.

[NATEHAWK]

Honestly you get what you pay for. I'm sure if I had the time to do it I could. But I don't have the time now days. And with the quality of the work and customer service I received I had no problem paying for it that's just me.

I just received these today and I'll be installing them when I get back home and i'll post up pics. I don't like to cheap out on my Marauder IMHO. I want top quality PERIOD.....Don't get it wrong I do a lot of my own work but something like this I rather let a pro who does this daily to do mine.

[BirchMarauder]

Two questions about the Morimotos...

Can you paint with spray cans, or does it have to be a spray paint gun to look good? Seems at that scale it would come nice even with a can, but what do I know.

Does the Morimotos projector assembly come apart so you can paint the chrome housing black as well?

Thanks.

Yes they come apart.

[bolsen]

Honestly you get what you pay for. I'm sure if I had the time to do it I could. But I don't have the time now days. And with the quality of the work and customer service I received I had no problem paying for it that's just me.

I just received these today and I'll be installing them when I get back home and i'll post up pics. I don't like to cheap out on my Marauder IMHO. I want top quality PERIOD.....Don't get it wrong I do a lot of my own work but something like this I rather let a pro who does this daily to do mine.

I hear you, man. I'm not trying to rag on your purchase. I thought about buying from them too, I just don't have the money. So I'm forced to do it myself. I just hate to see people over charging for work. I think they offer some kind of warranty though, so that's a HUGE plus...

[NATEHAWK]

I hear you, man. I'm not trying to rag on your purchase. I thought about buying from them too, I just don't have the money. So I'm forced to do it myself. I just hate to see people over charging for work. I think they offer some kind of warranty though, so that's a HUGE plus...

It's cool I understand where your coming from.

[NATEHAWK]

Got the headlights installed yesterday I gotta say this is the best visual mod to me hands down. Here are a few pics of the ang eyes on. My phone died so I'll get more pics later. http://img.tapatalk.com/a69374d9-1120-a2ea.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/a69374d9-1135-2b0d.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/a69374d9-1152-79e4.jpg

[martyo]

Nate:

From a driver's perspective is there better visibility?

[Krytin]

Subscribing!

[NATEHAWK]

Nate:

From a driver's perspective is there better visibility?

It's like night and day. Even for me going from regular HID's to Projectors with HID's. The light projects alot farther down the road...If your on the fence get off that fence ASAP.

[martyo]

It's like night and day. Even for me going from regular HID's to Projectors with HID's. The light projects alot farther down the road...If your on the fence get off that fence ASAP.

I was thinking about this for the town car I just bought.

[NATEHAWK]

I was thinking about this for the town car I just bought.

I'm sure it will look great and provide you with a greater light pattern.

[MOTOWN]

It's like night and day. Even for me going from regular HID's to Projectors with HID's. The light projects alot farther down the road...If your on the fence get off that fence ASAP.


Ok im sold! im going to give them a call later today!:banana2:

[martyo]

Ok im sold! im going to give them a call later today!:banana2:

Group buy!

They need to get the prices down for us common folk!

[MOTOWN]

Group buy!

They need to get the prices down for us common folk!

Im definetly down for that if we can get it going:banana2:

[breeze]

Group buy!

They need to get the prices down for us common folk!

GROUP BUYYYY.lol I'm down.

[burt ragio]

Even a one eyed baboon with cateracts could see the light. As mentioned the best bag for the buck. Count me in on a group buy.

[Red Ryder]

I'd be in for a group buy as well....

[marauder410]

Lets do ittt group buys im in

[marauder410]

I dnt get it so you can have just the angel eyes on and then you can put the whole headlight on or is this angel eyes the headlights im confused




got the headlights installed yesterday i gotta say this is the best visual mod to me hands down. Here are a few pics of the ang eyes on. My phone died so i'll get more pics later. http://img.tapatalk.com/a69374d9-1120-a2ea.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/a69374d9-1135-2b0d.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/a69374d9-1152-79e4.jpg

[boatmangc]

I contacted them and with lenses that don't need polishing they told me $910.

[BirchMarauder]

I dnt get it so you can have just the angel eyes on and then you can put the whole headlight on or is this angel eyes the headlights im confused

Angel eyes can be wired to whatever you want, switch, parking lights, etc. The actual Headlight beam is separate from the angel eyes. Angel eyes just decorative. I love mine.

[rossv1]

Yeah like nate said it's night and day difference with the visibility. Just picture and new Mercedes, Bmw, Infiniti, Lexus, Audi, etc. and it is AS GOOD as those are, except ours obviously don't turn witht he steering wheel or auto set when started up. I agree also on a group buy (even though I already had mine done a while ago). Trust me, this mod is worth it alone just from a safety point of view by being able to see better down the road (Jersey people should know why.......deer.

[Blackened300a]

I thought they were impressive when I saw them in NJ.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/7f526642.jpg

[NATEHAWK]

Hey guy everyone interested in putting together a group buy Caesar at Lightwerks will do it. I just spoke to him by way of email. It's many variations you can get your lights built so one representative will need to contact him to get a solid price and the project underway. He can be contacted at caesarrowinski@gmail.com

[cougar9150]

Love the angel eyes, got a pic of the front end w/both illuminated?

I'm possibly interested in a group buy, but most of my play funds are going towards boost right now. subscribing just to see how this turns out.

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[burt ragio]

What are the differances between the Morimoto Bi mini H1 4.1 and the Morimoto Bi D2S 2.0 ?

[bolsen]

The only difference is the bulb that can be used. The H1 uses a re-based H1 bulb. H1 bulbs are ONLY AFTERMARKET bulbs.

The D2S uses a D2S bulb. D2S is the same bulb that every OEM projector uses. You can "real" Phillip's bulbs and the like. As far as performance, not much.

[bolsen]

I contacted them and with lenses that don't need polishing they told me $910.
That is crazy. Just do a tiny bit of research and do them yourself. Save $600. That way if something ever does go wrong, you can fix it up yourself in about an hour, as opposed to sending them across the country.

[burt ragio]

The only difference is the bulb that can be used. The H1 uses a re-based H1 bulb. H1 bulbs are ONLY AFTERMARKET bulbs.

The D2S uses a D2S bulb. D2S is the same bulb that every OEM projector uses. You can "real" Phillip's bulbs and the like. As far as performance, not much.

For some reason I thought there might also be a differance in the size of the projector lens ?

[crabby125]

The only difference is the bulb that can be used. The H1 uses a re-based H1 bulb. H1 bulbs are ONLY AFTERMARKET bulbs.

The D2S uses a D2S bulb. D2S is the same bulb that every OEM projector uses. You can "real" Phillip's bulbs and the like. As far as performance, not much.

Projectors use more then just D2S

D1S / D3S is what alot of north american cars use, and I believe alot of european cars use this also. All depends on the car though

http://www.c5racer.com/catalog/images/D1s_Bulb_Super_White_6k.jpg

D2S / D4S is what alot of asian cars use

http://www.e92-lighting.com/images/products/gp%20thunder%20d2s%20bulb%2010 k%20blue.jpg


For some reason I thought there might also be a differance in the size of the projector lens ?

Between a FX-R and MH1? No, both are 2.5" lenses, however a new FX-R has been released with a 3" lens called the FX-R 3.0

[bolsen]

He's talking about a difference between the MH1 and MD2S.

[BirchMarauder]

What are the differances between the Morimoto Bi mini H1 4.1 and the Morimoto Bi D2S 2.0 ?

They do throw a slightly different light pattern. Was told the H1 is better light low beam. Wider. Ive got a link somewhere that shows the light patterns low and high beam from the various projectors with different bulb types. I'll post it when I locate it.

[crabby125]

He's talking about a difference between the MH1 and MD2S.


"D2S is the same bulb that every OEM projector uses" is what I was getting at. And their is more to it then the MD2S takes a D2S bulb and the MH1 has an H1. The bowls are different, and the MH1 uses a curved cutoff shield which gives it very good width. The MD2S uses a flat cutoff shield which makes it narrower. The MD2S can also handle 50W where the MH1 can not.


They do throw a slightly different light pattern. Was told the H1 is better light low beam. Wider. Ive got a link somewhere that shows the light patterns low and high beam from the various projectors with different bulb types. I'll post it when I locate it.

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/content.php?2-Bi-Xenon-Output-Comparison-TL-E55-Murano-FX-IS-e46-LR3

[DOOM]

Got the headlights installed yesterday I gotta say this is the best visual mod to me hands down. Here are a few pics of the ang eyes on. My phone died so I'll get more pics later. http://img.tapatalk.com/a69374d9-1120-a2ea.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/a69374d9-1135-2b0d.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/a69374d9-1152-79e4.jpg

Cant see the pics. :depress:

[NATEHAWK]

Here is two good shots I got. S/O to the iPhone 4 lol. http://img.tapatalk.com/c6e4c016-5f90-a4d4.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/c6e4c016-5f9d-1eba.jpg

[SID210SA]

Meh, I am kind of inbetween on the look....but the fit and finish looks good.

[DOOM]

Just finished hanging out with the HAWK!

About to post up some pics in a few!

All I can say is they look awesome in person!!! :2thumbs:

[DOOM]

Another 500RWHP marauder with CLASS! :coolman:

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/DOOMIE/e69598b0.jpg

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/DOOMIE/09a717c2.jpg

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/DOOMIE/1c3f0a03.jpg

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/DOOMIE/e9daf55e.jpg


True definition of a sexy beast!!! :beer:

[bolsen]

Not a fan of angel eyes. On anything but a BMW they just look "aftermarket".

[NATEHAWK]

Not a fan of angel eyes. On anything but a BMW they just look "aftermarket".

You gotta be the biggest hater ever. You been hating on this thread from day one. I mean damn, go make your own projectors, don't add angel eyes, and go sit in a corner when your done.

[jwibbity]

im not hating or anything but my hids are different looking from everybody elses, i dont have all those spots of low light, i got my kit from diodedynamics, and my HID bulb is on the outboard side of each light, with the halogen bulb on the inside.

[NATEHAWK]

im not hating or anything but my hids are different looking from everybody elses, i dont have all those spots of low light, i got my kit from diodedynamics, and my HID bulb is on the outboard side of each light, with the halogen bulb on the inside.

You have HID with Halogen high beams I'm sure of. So that halogen only lights when you hit your high beam? Does that sound right?

[jwibbity]

yup yup, hids+halogens on bright flash, and halogens only with brights on

[NATEHAWK]

yup yup, hids+halogens on bright flash, and halogens only with brights on

Cool. Your other option is Bi-xenon HID kit. Where the HID has a actuator that moves the HID to a higher light output. FYI

[breeze]

If I get them angle eyes is a must!

[jwibbity]

i would but diode dynamics is my only hid source too many people having problems with the other companies, so i guess ill just stick with my halogen brights:rolleyes: unless i decide to switch to projectors, hey can you post up pics of your light like in a parking lot or somthing??

[NATEHAWK]

Here you go bro......Luckily I was sitting in my car at work.

http://img.tapatalk.com/c6e4c016-8b09-5682.jpg

[jwibbity]

Here you go bro......

http://img.tapatalk.com/c6e4c016-8b09-5682.jpg
thanks!!!!

[bolsen]

You gotta be the biggest hater ever. You been hating on this thread from day one. I mean damn, go make your own projectors, don't add angel eyes, and go sit in a corner when your done.
Oh sorry for saying how I feel. Stop melting down over it, brah...

[burt ragio]

Not a fan of angel eyes. On anything but a BMW they just look "aftermarket".

uh -oh no cookies & milk for you.

[N40GL]

With all these projectors showing up, we'll have to have a "projectors only" parking lot at Louisville!