Good and Bad racing day

[LANDY]

Yesterday me and the boys went to the track for Ocala grudge match. Its a head up class run what you brung only for street cars.
Drove the car 50 miles to the track. Made a couple of passes on the blower only it went 11.5 at 117mph and 11.6 at 117.
Got to the match and won against a couple of slower cars. Then lined up against my buddy with a Gto, built 408 on 400 shot and stock drivetrain M6
I ended up going 11.0 at 130mph with a 60' of 1.7 spraying in 2nd gear
He went 11.4 at 135mph.
We both got discualified cuz of no rollbar. And a 12.0 truck tookthe win again.
I started the car up to go home and it was pouring coolant out the back, towed it home and sad she sits. Stay tuned for surgery.

[martyo]

Where is the coolant pouring from?

[MMBLUE]

Fingers and toes crossed for you.

[LANDY]

Exhaust and lots of it.

[babbage]

wow that sucks. I'm thinking it is coolant out of the exhaust pipes?

I pray for you the block isn't cracked.

[LANDY]

Iron block. It shouldn't be cracked. The car was only pushing mid 600 to the wheels

[martyo]

Exhaust and lots of it.

Maybe you will get lucky and find that all you did was lift a head -- that can happen when you are spraying the car.

[Blackened300a]

Uh oh. Major surgery ahead but congrats on the 11.0!! Also proves my theory that things always run the best right before they break. I said this at a car meet to my friend with a 11 second gt500. He made his best pass of a 11.2 instead of his typical 11.6 and the blower broke apart internally right after the run.

[LANDY]

Maybe you will get lucky and find that all you did was lift a head -- that can happen when you are spraying the car.
Thats what makes sense, unfortunately the engine has ford studs. The car has compression, it should be fine.

[martyo]

Thats what makes sense, unfortunately the engine has ford studs. The car has compression, it should be fine.

Order new studs and do them when you run through the motor.

I will be keeping my fingers crossed!

[LANDY]

Uh oh. Major surgery ahead but congrats on the 11.0!! Also proves my theory that things always run the best right before they break. I said this at a car meet to my friend with a 11 second gt500. He made his best pass of a 11.2 instead of his typical 11.6 and the blower broke apart internally right after the run. I knew it was coming since it had oem hardware but I was expecting the stock tranny to give in first
. If the car makes those times spraying on 2nd I can imagine if it hooks spraying out the hole.

[Gryphonzus]

Good runs Landy!! Sorry to hear about the car. Hopefully it is not too bad. Good luck on the repair!

[boatmangc]

Landy, I know you well enough to know that this is nothing more than an opportunity for you to make your motor even better!
Keep us posted.

[DOOM]

11.0!!! damn!!!!! :eek:

Hope it's nothing serious bro. :beer:

[LANDY]

Order new studs and do them when you run through the motor.

I will be keeping my fingers crossed!indeed, ARP hardware and Cometic head gaskets it is!

[CWright]

Glad to hear of a good run and sorry it tore up, a little. Can't wait to see what happens when you get it back up and running! 10's are around the corner. :D

[scoutrjp]

Sorry to hear that Landy. Hope the damage is limited.

[boatmangc]

Roll cage group buy?

[martyo]

indeed, ARP hardware and Cometic head gaskets it is!

Good move.

Have your accountant take it in your taxes as "insurance". :D

[MOTOWN]

indeed, ARP hardware and Cometic head gaskets it is!

I sure hope it just needs a head gasket! good choice on the ARP studs:banana2:

[jflave]

Iron block. It shouldn't be cracked. The car was only pushing mid 600 to the wheels ONLY PUSHING MID 600. What else is in that iron block ? 11.0 nice pass. :popcorn:

[ImpalaSlayer]

sweet run Landy

[boatmangc]

I have been for a ride in Landy's car, it is a visceral experience!

[LANDY]

Roll cage group buy? lol remember this is a purposely built street car to win money.

[LANDY]

ONLY PUSHING MID 600. What else is in that iron block ? 11.0 nice pass. :popcorn:
It's a cobra block, with a Kellog crank, manley rods and diamond pistons. 10.2.1 CR

[napolitano]

Sorry for blackbeauty but tough she is. With my new position and all I couldn't make but they just hired two people today and one more next week. We get together soon Landy. Very nice run though.

[martyo]

It's a cobra block, with a Kellog crank, manley rods and diamond pistons. 10.2.1 CR

And no head studs?

[PonyUP]

Sorry to hear Landy, great run though, you'll have her tip top in no time


Pony seal of Approval

[justbob]

DANGGGGG Landy! NICE! Sorry about the aftermath though. Roll bar group buy huh? Where do I sign up? I BETTER hit that 11.49 soon or I'm gonna cry.

[LANDY]

And no head studs? nope! After The bottom end went out on Barry a shortblock was installed with stock hardware and top end. Why? I don't know.

[Marauderman]

Sorry to hear about your problem.......but nice to hear such great things about Manley Rods, Diamond Pistons, ARP hardware and Cometic head gaskets cause that is what I had put in my build up few years ago.......yeah...........makes me feel real good..........carry on and hope it gets back on the asphalt soon..........

[cheetahjab]

Was nice seeing you practice in Gainsville, was a pleasure to meet you there.

[cougar9150]

When you pulling the motor?

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[LANDY]

Hopefully next weekend.

[kariamack]

he has to finish mine first lol

[CameronVic]

Then lined up against my buddy with a Gto, built 408 on 400 shot and stock drivetrain M6 ...
He went 11.4 at 135mph.
400 shot!? Was he spinning the whole track!? Looks like it based off that trap and ET!

[LANDY]

He was in first gear he only sprayed 3rd and 4th.

[LANDY]

Spent a couple of hours taking the beast apart, so many things I want to change.
I hope I don't get to complicated.

[LANDY]

Spend some time tonight getting the engine ready to come out.
Before I started I did a compression test and it was between 185-210 in all but cylinder 3. Someone built a stout shortblock.!

[blkZooM]

Good luck on getting her back to normal

[napolitano]

if you need help this weekend, I should be off work sat.

[FastMerc]

That motor was built by Zach about a year and a half before you got the car.

[LANDY]

That motor was built by Zach about a year and a half before you got the car. Yes Sir. He bought the shortblock and swapped the heads and also did a great job as always. Besides the head studs I did not find anything I would have not done, and the studs deal wasn't in his hands.

[FastMerc]

Yes Sir. He bought the shortblock and swapped the heads and also did a great job as always. Besides the head studs I did not find anything I would have not done, and the studs deal wasn't in his hands.
Did you find out were the leak was?

[LANDY]

I know is on cylinder 3 for sure, I will really find out when I take her completely apart.

[FF1077]

Any update on this? Cant wait to hear what you find.

[LANDY]

I havent had time to work on the car, too busy on other projects.

[LANDY]

Well today due to Lizz feeling bad I couldn't leave the house to work on the kariamack project at work so i decided to take my car apart. heads and gaskets are good but i found a cylinder wall cracked on #3.
Point is I need a teksid block. HMU if you have one.

[burt ragio]

Fantastic run. Just another hiccup. That spray juice moon shine is somthing else. Looking foward to you new build.

[03sport007]

Well today due to Lizz feeling bad I couldn't leave the house to work on the kariamack project at home so i decided to take my car apart. heads and gaskets are good but i found a cylinder wall cracked on #3.
Point is I need a teksid block. HMU if you have one.

That sucks!!!!! Was hoping it would have been something a little simpler. Sorry hope you get it back together soon.

[MMBLUE]

Sorry to hear that, look at it this way, with a Teksid block you'll be able to up the BOOST!

[LANDY]

Sorry to hear that, look at it this way, with a Teksid block you'll be able to up the BOOST!and the nitrous. LOL

[burt ragio]

If you wanted could you sleve cylender #3 and call it a day ?

[SC Cheesehead]

Landy, did you see this thread?

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79800

[CameronVic]

pics of the said cracked cylinder wall?

[LANDY]

[QUOTE=SC Cheesehead;1186115]Landy, did you see this thread?

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79800[/QUOTE
I looked it over. Thanks.

[LANDY]

pics of the said cracked cylinder wall? will do once I pull the shortblock out the car

[cougar9150]

Did Juno ever sell the teksid block he had? Might be worth a try and I'd call msr in Clearwater as they have a bunch of stuff and might have a block.

If they do I can throw it in the back of the truck or the trunk of the MM and swing it up your way in a couple weeks.

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[LANDY]

Took the other side of the head out tonight, and pulled the shortblock out.
the crack on the cylinder is about 2" long in the middle of #3, its so small i tried taking pics but it wont show but one can feel if i run my finger thru it.
(cell phone pics)

[LANDY]

Dropped off the shorblock today, going with CP 6cc pistons and Teksid block.
Also ordered a 3800 stall tripple disc TC from FTI.

[babbage]

should be a great setup, teksid FTW... Do you have any extra heat shield on the A/C stuff? Or is it just that you can see more with engine out.

[LANDY]

Yup stock heat sheild.
My goal is 1.5 or less 60' when it comes out on the spray.

[LANDY]

I have gotten something in the mail and have been working on a set of aluminum piping i had made for my setup.

[MMBLUE]

Looking really good Landy :banana2:

[MOTOWN]

Well looking good bud!

[LANDY]

I made some progress yesterday, still waiting in some parts to get here. I redid all of the wiring loom on the car since Barry had blue on it, all i can say is wow he spent a lot of time putting it in. It took more time cleaning and redoing all the wiring then to slide and button up the motor.

[Blown3.8]

Looks yummy. Is that chrome powder on the COT?

[LANDY]

Looks yummy. Is that chrome powder on the COT?
Its ceramic coated just like the kooks.

[GAMike]

Nice! Landy.... Very nice!:banana2:

[MMBLUE]

Looking awesome. ;)

[babbage]

I made some progress yesterday, still waiting in some parts to get here. I redid all of the wiring loom on the car since Barry had blue on it, all i can say is wow he spent a lot of time putting it in. It took more time cleaning and redoing all the wiring then to slide and button up the motor.

Hey what about adding a Caton Oil pan? I thought it was +1 quart more than factory in capacity and good for "drag racing" applications. :burnout:
Link: http://www.carid.com/canton/item-3031064.html?utm_source=google base_com&utm_medium=comparator&utm_campaign=Google_feed&%22cagpspn=pla%22&gclid=CJ39rLCK1bMCFQJx4AodESwA aw
I think that's the correct one, don't take this the wrong way, just a suggestion.


Engine looks fantastic, I do love the ceramic coated headers.

[CameronVic]

I really like how this looks! Can't wait to see what it does at the track!

[LANDY]

After tighing up some od ends its running great. Now dyno time coming soon.

[MOTOWN]

Lookin good Landy! looks like you have a Silver birch in the house! hmmmmm????

[LANDY]

On friday i spent the day cleaning the car all around. Swapped my street tires on for dyno next morning. After aproximatelly 125 miles on the motor and a fresh oil change we strapped her up.
Now she sits at 531rwhp 456rwtq @16psi on 17* of timing. It kept making power with more timing but i decided to leave it at 17* then add 5* on race fuel.
All on a 6 rib belt at 6800rpm shifts with no belt slip.

[MMBLUE]

On friday i spent the day cleaning the car all around. Swapped my street tires on for dyno next morning. After aproximatelly 125 miles on the motor and a fresh oil change we strapped her up.
Now she sits at 531rwhp 456rwtq @16psi on 17* of timing. It kept making power with more timing but i decided to leave it at 17* then add 5* on race fuel.
All on a 6 rib belt at 6800rpm shifts with no belt slip.

Wow, awesome numbers. Looks like you'll be moving yourself up on the time slip page. Let me know when you're heading to Gainsville. Time for me to move up on the time page.

Time to update the sig.

[jflave]

Real nice #'s Landy, coming on strong, keep it up. :2thumbs:

[LANDY]

She feels great, on my rain safe set of tires it breaks loose at 60mph. Thank you stall!

[LANDY]

Wow, awesome numbers. Looks like you'll be moving yourself up on the time slip page. Let me know when you're heading to Gainsville. Time for me to move up on the time page.

Time to update the sig.
Im actually planing a Bradenton trip when i finish Levi's car.

[CameronVic]

How much are you thinkin about spraying at it? Those are pretty nice numbers the way it sits!

[MOTOWN]

Great #s Landy! i see you have an 8rib balancer so i assume your going to an 8rib setup at some point, sounds like it has a lot left in it!

[LANDY]

How much are you thinkin about spraying at it? Those are pretty nice numbers the way it sits!
Im starting with 75 shot to see how she feels then go from there. The motor was built with around the bottle.

[LANDY]

Great #s Landy! i see you have an 8rib balancer so i assume your going to an 8rib setup at some point, sounds like it has a lot left in it!
The plan is to put it at 20psi on the t-trim. I went 9.1.1 with the purpose of having room to grow.

[CameronVic]

How deep into the 10s is your goal with this setup? And I think I asked you before, but what's done to the rear end? Welded tubes, 31spline, t-lock or spool, etc?

[BODYMAN]

Good job Landy! Nice #'s:2thumbs:

[LANDY]

How deep into the 10s is your goal with this setup? And I think I asked you before, but what's done to the rear end? Welded tubes, 31spline, t-lock or spool, etc? with my new stall im hoping for 11.5 being conservative just on 16psi.
Add 125shot it should see 10.7 then i'll really put the hammer on it. I have 31 spline oem axels and cobra Diff. Thats plenty for this setup.

[boatmangc]

Daaammmmn Landy!!

[CameronVic]

Thats plenty for this setup.I definitely agree. My GF's brother broke a spider gear, but that's with a similar HP new 5.0 with a kenne bell on top and a stick shift. Autos are so much nicer to rear ends. Hell, I'm still on 28s and I've done a 1.60 flat 60' and it's gone 6.99 @ 103 in the 8th.

[LANDY]

I definitely agree. My GF's brother broke a spider gear, but that's with a similar HP new 5.0 with a kenne bell on top and a stick shift. Autos are so much nicer to rear ends. Hell, I'm still on 28s and I've done a 1.60 flat 60' and it's gone 6.99 @ 103 in the 8th.
Tire selection plays a big role on the axels breaking. I honestly never seen OEM 28's break on an auto car.

[CameronVic]

Tire selection plays a big role on the axels breaking. I honestly never seen OEM 28's break on an auto car.

I agree, but I'd be willing to bet a 500whp radial car is going to last a lot longer than an 800whp slick tire car.

[LANDY]

I still have 100% stock suspension. Im going to try my setup on both types of tires and see how it performs..
I believe unless i modify the suspension it wont hold the gun out the gate with the radials. I know for sure it will hold it on the hoosier slicks.
On just the blower it should be faster on the radials.

[blkZooM]

Nice to hear your car is up and running again, been down for some time enjoy it

[Loco1234]

It's a cobra block, with a Kellog crank, manley rods and diamond pistons. 10.2.1 CR


Honestly I had heard the Cast iron block's are now stronger than the Teksid... Granted thats prob because I was hearing about the new Boss block for our shortblocks... Not the cobra shortblock block.

[LANDY]

The boss should be stronger. With John Mihovets holding 1600hp on a stock bore and stroke teksid. It was a no brainer for me. I also made a few other changes to shave some weight without sacrificing anything but my wallet. Now the car weights 130# less than it did with the last setup.

[cougar9150]

Nice numbers bud, let me know when your heading to Bradenton.

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[Mike M]

I may have asked you this before but what fuel pump(s) are you running?

[MMARAUDER]

I pretty sure he's running dual gt pumps

[Mike M]

Thanks, Do you know if he is using a BAP as well?

[LANDY]

Dual GT pumps, 40amp BAP, designated power wires for each pump thru the fuel tank hat.

[CameronVic]

Do you guys with big power convert to return style?

[LANDY]

Do you guys with big power convert to return style?

Im planning on it in the future. Right now my Fuel pump duty cycle is at 68% at WOT. I got plenty of room to grow.

[jflave]

Do you guys with big power convert to return style? I did using the A1000 fuel pump with a sump in the tank.

[MOTOWN]

I'm going return with 2 walbro 400lph in tank pumps on a modified Division X 03/04 Cobra fuel hat

[Blown3.8]

I'm going return with 2 walbro 400lph in tank pumps on a modified Division X 03/04 Cobra fuel hat

Is your camera broke?

[CameronVic]

I'm going return with 2 walbro 400lph in tank pumps on a modified Division X 03/04 Cobra fuel hatGood lord! You ain't running out of fuel anytime soon!

[MOTOWN]

Good lord! You ain't running out of fuel anytime soon!

Yeah that's the plan I want to do my fuel system once and be done with it, regardless of future upgrades

[MOTOWN]

Is your camera broke?

LMAO no I'll update the madness thread you wouldn't guess what happened!

[hotford]

Is your camera broke?

good one.........

[LANDY]

LMAO no I'll update the madness thread you wouldn't guess what happened!I too want to see pictures of that setup.

[LANDY]

I came to miami to spend time with my parents and put the first roadtrip on the new setup. I have been here a couple of days. Today i went to playing at a private place and after a full pass i shredded the belt.
Note:16psi 15* of timing 11.2 AFR.
I always keep my tools with me just in case i have to take the car apart on the road. I have had the next size smaller belt on the trunk since the dyno day just in case. I take it all apart and it takes two of us to install the smaller belt on ( my friend on tensioner me underneath almost hanging on it). I get back on the road and get on it in 2nd gear and i notice my AFR leaned out to 11.7 and car feels faster. Then i do it again and the boost gauge reads 18psi before shift. By this time i want to read my plugs.
I get new plug on cilinder #1, go to the place to make a full pass again.
Made it, pulled the plug and the strap looks like perfect timing and its burning perfect.
I think this thing just picked up an extra 20rwhp. Keep in mind this is all on a six rib.
I have a video of the car on 16psi from days ago i will post next. It has been a great holiday so far. Merry Christmas everyone!

[LANDY]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZlF0GNI-Zc
Enjoy!

[WhatsUpDOHC]

What were the numbers?
She never dropped below 5K RPM - Kept her on the pipes. Sweet.

[LANDY]

What were the numbers?
She never dropped below 5K RPM - Kept her on the pipes. Sweet. On 16psi it made 545whp 469wtq SAE.

[jflave]

Nice, glad its all coming together good for you. :2thumbs:

[MMBLUE]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZlF0GNI-Zc
Enjoy!


For some reason, link not working :confused:

[LJ on 24's]

For some reason, link not working :confused:

That link worked for me.

[Marauderjack]

No worky for me either!! :help:

It takes me to a YouTube homepage but NOTHING!!:argue:

[Marauderjack]

Nope...still requires a "Sign In" but no worky!!

Never had to sign into YouTube to view a video??:confused:

[Blown3.8]

Lets see if this works.

_ZlF0GNI-Zc

[LANDY]

Sweet!!! thanks Chris. Damn cellphones. lol

[GAMike]

Lets see if this works.

_ZlF0GNI-Zc

Oh, Its workin:D:burnout:Yessir!

[Blown3.8]

Sweet!!! thanks Chris. Damn cellphones. lol

No problem. Sounds good too.:beer:

[Marauderjack]

That worked fine Chris and Landy.......that thang scoots!!!:eek::eek::eek:

Be careful out thar!!:D

[jflave]

Landy whats going on at about 120 mph your rpms drop from 6400 to 6100 & build again, is that the TQ converter locking up ? That baby is strong. :)

[LANDY]

Yes its the lockup. I have tried locking the converter at different speeds and this is the best way to stay on powerband. Notice how quick it goes from 115mph to 135mph?

[Baaad GN]

Damn that car is dangerous! Wow!

[jflave]

Thanks & i notice how it keeps gettin up.

[LANDY]

I think its easy an 11.4 car. We will see when the track opens.

[blazen71]

Are you using the extra idler pulley I sent you?

[LANDY]

Not yet! Havent needed on my setup.

[CameronVic]

Thing sounds healthy! It rolls the F@(#$* out!!! What are your rear gears? And did you get it started then lay on it? I imagine traction can be a problem on the street sometimes if you just mash the hell out of it from a dig.
For some reason, link not working :confused:

If a link does this and you're on a desktop/laptop, the quick fix is to delete the "m." in front of the "www" and it'll work.

[LANDY]

Thing sounds healthy! It rolls the F@(#$* out!!! What are your rear gears? And did you get it started then lay on it? I imagine traction can be a problem on the street sometimes if you just mash the hell out of it from a dig.

If a link does this and you're on a desktop/laptop, the quick fix is to delete the "m." in front of the "www" and it'll work.
Car has 4.10 gears and 29" tall tires. Tires are worn out and yes i rolled into it. With this stall there is no matting out the hole.

[Mac-MerC]

Stupid fast

[LANDY]

I left work early today, went to the local dyno that opened just weeks ago.
Since i changed to a tighter belt and the car now hits 18psi and it feels faster i decided to see how much power it makes now. (No tunning)
She made 569rwhp-489rwtq. 15* of timing at 6800rpm On the 6rib.
Im going to set my shift point at 7k since it drops power after 6800.

[Blown3.8]

Whats your shortblock setup?

[LANDY]

Stock bore and stroke teksid, kellog crank, manley rods, JE pistons. 9.1.1 CR ring gapped .029, .027.

[justbob]

Where in the hell have I been? DAYUMMM! That brick hauls the mail!


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[Chi Stallion]

Dammmmmmmmmmmn!!!!! That thing is fast!!:bows:

[03sport007]

Wow!!!!!!!

[MOTOWN]

Sweet numbers Landy well done!

[jflave]

Real nice #s Landy, WOW says it all, keep on keeping on. :)