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justbob

02-13-2012, 05:18 PM

I should of just followed along as planned and made my own solid connectors. Look at the quality crimps on these Granatelli's! I couldn't get them to click onto the plug for nothing, come to find out they were just sliding the ends further onto the the cable. That would be interesting to get back off.. I tried to recrimp one but ended up making it worse so I loaded some S.S. wire in the mig and gave her a zap. Hope this works, can't see why it wouldn't? I will Email them to show them what's up so this can be addressed, but since I bought them (new) from a member here, I'm sure I will be eating these. One end fell off on its own! http://img.tapatalk.com/aefd1823-a838-429b.jpg

guspech750

02-13-2012, 05:21 PM

That's some mother fkin BS there. For sure contact the manufacture.

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CBT

02-13-2012, 05:59 PM

Tack weld should hold unless them are oily. You need a scrimp tool. Get your scrimps on. :beer:

I should of just followed along as planned and made my own solid connectors. Look at the quality crimps on these Granatelli's! I couldn't get them to click onto the plug for nothing, come to find out they were just sliding the ends further onto the the cable. That would be interesting to get back off.. I tried to recrimp one but ended up making it worse so I loaded some S.S. wire in the mig and gave her a zap. Hope this works, can't see why it wouldn't? I will Email them to show them what's up so this can be addressed, but since I bought them (new) from a member here, I'm sure I will be eating these. One end fell off on its own! http://img.tapatalk.com/aefd1823-a838-429b.jpg

justbob

02-13-2012, 06:19 PM

ImpalaSlayer

02-13-2012, 06:35 PM

i had no issues with mine when i bought em

CBT

02-13-2012, 06:39 PM

I just did a quick tack, seemed just fine. Just unreal that I will have to do about 13 more! I swear I have the worst luck with anything aftermarket. I spend more time perfecting it for them! :p

Tried the re'crimp first. The metal is so weak it snaps when you try to straighten them out, then crimp.

Bro you sure you even want to use them? Like you said, you have to get them back off at some point. And they might not all come out in one piece. Can you get a socket onto a plug if it comes un-scrimped and leaves the end on a plug?

DOOM

02-13-2012, 06:51 PM

Are these the COP connectors?

If so I have these on my car with no issues. Been on for about 3 years.

justbob

02-13-2012, 06:54 PM

Think I will just make my own. Oh, looky here, that was hard to find :rolleyes:

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/BWD0/CT520.oap?ck=Search_N0607_-1_3896&pt=N0607&ppt=C0150

http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Strands-Length-Breaking-Strength/dp/B0013HELIQ/ref=sr_1_10?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1329184112&sr=1-10

Maybe a new business? :P

ImpalaSlayer

02-13-2012, 06:56 PM

justbob

02-13-2012, 07:03 PM

at those prices im sure you sell a few sets of em and still be ahead. what do the ganitellies for for? like 130?
? I think a little more actually. Thats not the exact same cable as theirs, but I'm quite sure it would be suffice, or I could spend another two minutes googling.

Yes Jake, same as everyone's here. Maybe I just got a bad batch? Maybe all of you should check yours? :confused:

DOOM

02-13-2012, 07:07 PM

Yes Jake, same as everyone's here. Maybe I just got a bad batch? Maybe all of you should check yours? :confused:

:hmmm: Maybe thats why I have blown up 6 motors so far! :eek:

(according to the peanut gallery) :D

justbob

02-13-2012, 07:15 PM

:hmmm: Maybe thats why I have blown up 6 motors so far! :eek:

(according to the peanut gallery) :D
I thought you only blew up like 5 so far? :D

CBT

02-13-2012, 07:16 PM

I thought you only blew up like 5 so far? :D

One exploded out of shear ****ing awesomeness so it don't count.

DOOM

02-13-2012, 07:22 PM

One exploded out of shear ****ing awesomeness so it don't count.

:rofl:

I love this guy! :beer:

:banana2:

justbob

02-13-2012, 07:24 PM

:rofl:

I love this guy! :beer:

:banana2:

What about meeeee? I haz a sad.:alone:

ImpalaSlayer

02-13-2012, 07:28 PM

What about meeeee? I haz a sad.:alone:
you no get luv

DOOM

02-13-2012, 07:29 PM

What about meeeee? I haz a sad.:alone:

Plenty of LOUISVILLE LUVIN to go around. :lovies: :hug2:

justbob

02-13-2012, 07:34 PM

you no get luv
Please SHOOOOOOSH yo mouth davey! :P

Plenty of LOUISVILLE LUVIN to go around. :lovies: :hug2:
You alright Jake! :beer:

:pancake:One biscuit for you! Dave, BACK OF LINE!

PonyUP

02-13-2012, 08:26 PM

Please SHOOOOOOSH yo mouth davey! :P

You alright Jake! :beer:

:pancake:One biscuit for you! Dave, BACK OF LINE!

I'm getting me some biscuits at Louisville

I'm so buttering your muffin. Mel and the girlfriend can go play, I'm getting me some JustBob time.

You can even charge me the going rates at "JustBobs Motorsports"

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TAKEDOWN

02-13-2012, 08:31 PM

HmMm Mmm... I love me sum white chocolate with extra almonds, where's that JustBob at!?!

justbob

02-13-2012, 08:34 PM

CREEPY! :eek:

guspech750

02-13-2012, 08:36 PM

I hear talk of gayness. I'm in!!

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TAKEDOWN

02-13-2012, 08:37 PM

Hi joey!!!

DOOM

02-13-2012, 08:49 PM

I hear talk of gayness. I'm in!!

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Hi joey!!!

And this thread just officially went to crap! :rofl:

TAKEDOWN

02-13-2012, 08:50 PM

Sorry Bob, back on topic...
I should of just followed along as planned and made my own solid connectors. Look at the quality crimps on these Granatelli's! I couldn't get them to click onto the plug for nothing, come to find out they were just sliding the ends further onto the the cable. That would be interesting to get back off.. I tried to recrimp one but ended up making it worse so I loaded some S.S. wire in the mig and gave her a zap. Hope this works, can't see why it wouldn't? I will Email them to show them what's up so this can be addressed, but since I bought them (new) from a member here, I'm sure I will be eating these. One end fell off on its own! http://img.tapatalk.com/aefd1823-a838-429b.jpg

PonyUP

02-13-2012, 08:51 PM

Yeah right Doom, Like you don't wanna try the other, other white meat :lol:

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guspech750

02-13-2012, 09:48 PM

This thread is full of Win :lol: :lol:

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TAKEDOWN

02-13-2012, 10:52 PM

Yeah right Doom, Like you don't wanna try the other, other white meat :lol:

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GetMeMyStogie

02-13-2012, 11:04 PM

http://img.tapatalk.com/aefd1823-a838-429b.jpg

What is this supposed to do anyway? I mean, that spark plug connector is from the olden days of pushrod V8's, when engines used distributor caps and heavy spark plug wires to get the high-voltage pulse to the spark plug. On those motors, the relatively heavy boots were held in place by pretty much thin air. A strong clip over the spark plug connector ensured connection with the spark plug, and it also ensured the boot didn't vibrate itself loose.
On our engines, there is a coil cover which is designed to hold the coils in place, so the spark plug connector no longer has to perform this function. All it needs to do is transfer an electric pulse from the coil output to the spark plug - it doesn't have to hold anything together.
The original spring that's used to do this might make a somewhat longer path for the spark than absolutely necessary, but we're talking a few extra inches or so - still far shorter than most old spark plug wires. Plus, since the position of the coils are quite fixed, the gap between coil and plug might be affected by extremes in temperature, so a flexible, expanding conduit is needed there.

Why not just do this:

[IMG]picture of a copper strand stuffed inside the spring coming soon[IMG]

screamn

02-14-2012, 04:34 AM

All I can say is "Crapatelli"! :mad2::down:

In my opinion and through a dreaded experience their products are a POS! :censor:

I purchased their Pro Coils, that included soild stainless connectors, for about over $500 plus shipping.

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/products/1999_2010_Ford_4_6_5_4L_4V_Pro _Series_Coil_Packs-92-25.html

These coils didn't even last 6 months. About 6 out of 8 were failing. I returned them since they were still under warranty which they replaced.

I have brand new OEM coils with no problemos.....

Buyer beware!!!!!!!

justbob

02-14-2012, 05:26 AM

What is this supposed to do anyway? I mean, that spark plug connector is from the olden days of pushrod V8's, when engines used distributor caps and heavy spark plug wires to get the high-voltage pulse to the spark plug. On those motors, the relatively heavy boots were held in place by pretty much thin air. A strong clip over the spark plug connector ensured connection with the spark plug, and it also ensured the boot didn't vibrate itself loose.
On our engines, there is a coil cover which is designed to hold the coils in place, so the spark plug connector no longer has to perform this function. All it needs to do is transfer an electric pulse from the coil output to the spark plug - it doesn't have to hold anything together.
The original spring that's used to do this might make a somewhat longer path for the spark than absolutely necessary, but we're talking a few extra inches or so - still far shorter than most old spark plug wires. Plus, since the position of the coils are quite fixed, the gap between coil and plug might be affected by extremes in temperature, so a flexible, expanding conduit is needed there.

Why not just do this:

[IMG]picture of a copper strand stuffed inside the spring coming soon[IMG]

This is the exact ends that granatelli uses, not my idea. The other reasoning for the solid wire is to help prevent plug walk out.

Blackened300a

02-14-2012, 05:31 AM

What is this supposed to do anyway? I mean, that spark plug connector is from the olden days of pushrod V8's, when engines used distributor caps and heavy spark plug wires to get the high-voltage pulse to the spark plug. On those motors, the relatively heavy boots were held in place by pretty much thin air. A strong clip over the spark plug connector ensured connection with the spark plug, and it also ensured the boot didn't vibrate itself loose.
On our engines, there is a coil cover which is designed to hold the coils in place, so the spark plug connector no longer has to perform this function. All it needs to do is transfer an electric pulse from the coil output to the spark plug - it doesn't have to hold anything together.
The original spring that's used to do this might make a somewhat longer path for the spark than absolutely necessary, but we're talking a few extra inches or so - still far shorter than most old spark plug wires. Plus, since the position of the coils are quite fixed, the gap between coil and plug might be affected by extremes in temperature, so a flexible, expanding conduit is needed there.

Why not just do this:

[IMG]picture of a copper strand stuffed inside the spring coming soon[IMG]

The idea is that it's a thicker gauge wire and direct contact onto the plug which is supposed to supply more voltage due to less resistance. On paper it sounds good and I went ahead and bought a set like most members but it hasn't been proved exactly what benefit these are over the springs. I bought mine from lightning force performance, they are the same as the crapetellis but $30 cheaper and never had a problem.

fastblackmerc

02-14-2012, 05:46 AM

I've had the Granatelli connectors on my MM for over 6 years and have not had any problems. I also change the plugs once a year so they have seen alot of on / off cycles....

justbob

02-14-2012, 06:13 AM

I've had the Granatelli connectors on my MM for over 6 years and have not had any problems. I also change the plugs once a year so they have seen alot of on / off cycles....

Must have been a bad batch? I emailed them last night to show them pics and get their opinion on what could have happened, not pulling the replace for me card, but maybe do some more quality control. Glad I found the exact replacements at least. Now I have a choices, fix, weld solid, or make my own. Still $125.00 garbage on this end.

Just sucks as I am very selectively cheap and have wanted these for quite sometime, but never wanted to pay.. I FINALLY go ahead and get a set only to find this.

yjmud

02-14-2012, 06:20 AM

had an issue with a tube k member from them it was complete crap I would never buy anything from them again

hotford

02-14-2012, 08:51 AM

Couldn't have said it better myself.........to many internet buyers and beleive everything they read......... i had dealing with Crapatelli many years ago,man can he talk ****......
and why anyone would use aftermarket COP is a mystery to me,never had any issues with the stockers, even on my Modfox that runs in the low 9's

All I can say is "Crapatelli"! :mad2::down:

In my opinion and through a dreaded experience their products are a POS! :censor:

I purchased their Pro Coils, that included soild stainless connectors, for about over $500 plus shipping.

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/products/1999_2010_Ford_4_6_5_4L_4V_Pro _Series_Coil_Packs-92-25.html

These coils didn't even last 6 months. About 6 out of 8 were failing. I returned them since they were still under warranty which they replaced.

I have brand new OEM coils with no problemos.....

Buyer beware!!!!!!!

ctrlraven

02-14-2012, 10:39 AM

The only problem I've had with mine is one time the crimp came loose when I was changing my plugs, I re-crimped it and moved on.

justbob

02-14-2012, 05:07 PM

Well good news for once. After several emails with pics Granatelli is VERY interested to see what might of happened with these.

He said these were the older design but the crimping should still have been a heart shaped crimp. He couldn't believe that 13 out of 16 never pierced the cable. The pictures were nice and clear for once but he still wants these back in his hands for research. Out of good faith, seeing as though I bought these new but second hand, he is going to hand pick replacements and get them out to me.

That's standing behind your product.

tbone

02-14-2012, 05:16 PM

:beer::beer::beer:

guspech750

02-14-2012, 06:06 PM

That's great news Bob!!

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DOOM

02-14-2012, 06:23 PM

That's good news biscuits!!! :banana2:

Baaad GN

02-14-2012, 07:19 PM

Hey guy's I don't usually say much but I've meet Just Bob and I would have never guests he was gXX! Just couldn't bring myself to say it, oh well I still like him!

Baaad GN

02-14-2012, 07:20 PM

Opps guested!

justbob

02-14-2012, 08:46 PM

Opps guested!

Where's your glasses dad? LOL How ya been?

BTW I'm MARRIED! To a FEMALE too! :D

Vortech347

02-14-2012, 10:24 PM

Anything Granatelli is POS Chinese ****.

the_pack_rat

02-15-2012, 12:57 AM

Really sorry to hear about this Bob.

Being I never even tried to use them ..... I didn't realize they weren't up to snuff.

:o

They were bought thru a group buy on here a long time ago.

I'm glad to hear you got someone that is going to make it right.

justbob

02-15-2012, 04:31 AM

GetMeMyStogie

02-17-2012, 08:04 PM

This is the exact ends that granatelli uses, not my idea. The other reasoning for the solid wire is to help prevent plug walk out.

What is plug walk out? How common is it?

Mr. Man

02-17-2012, 08:38 PM

I've heard enough bad things about Granatelli's that I would go with the OEM if I ever have an issue with the present ones.

Glad to hear you may be getting some satisfaction from the company.:)

PS Isn't Mel short for Melvin?;):lol:

justmelanie

02-17-2012, 09:04 PM

Ummmm. NOPE!

guspech750

02-17-2012, 09:13 PM

Ummmm. NOPE!

Heyz. Dis do notz kuncernz yuz laydie!!

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justbob

02-17-2012, 09:15 PM

Heyz. Dis do notz kuncernz yuz laydie!!

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Yup. Not touchin this one... I have to sleep with her!:eek:

justmelanie

02-17-2012, 09:19 PM

Heyz. Dis do notz kuncernz yuz laydie!!
SHOOSH!

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Yup. Not touchin this one... I have to sleep with her!:eek:
Again...Nope..

Mr. Man

02-17-2012, 09:47 PM

Ummmm. NOPE!
You need to read all the Bob, Casey, Brad, Joe, and the rest of the peanut gallery to understand there is another Mel in his life and it would appear not female :eek: ;)

sailsmen

02-18-2012, 08:17 AM

In the 1970's We never bought OEM replacement parts or maintenance parts. The quality was very poor and the price was out of sight. I can remember looking at the OEM parts and finding it hard to believe that junk was on my car.

Then aftermarket was far better and cost less.

Today in most cases the quality of the OEM* cannot be matched by replacement parts.

*Competition from Imports resulted in higher quality.