Unsolicited Advice For Keeping Your Marauder Yours!

[DEFYANT]

Hello all.

I am sure many of you have noticed the difficulty in locating replacement parts for our cars. And the premium price things like bumpers and various other one off MM parts are commanding. These cars are fading from places like eBay and will soon be gone for the most part.

Sure having a rare car is nice. We all love the uniqueness of our modern classics at the car shows and thumbs up while cruising. The dark side to this is, I predict the car-jacking / thefts of these car will rise. As the market for parts dries up, the black market will pay the thieves to source parts. This site and others like it will be looked at by thieves interested in stealing our cars to part out.

What to do? If selling, be alert. If you get the slightest hint of deception call off the sale or consider meeting a buyer in a public place. Bringing a stranger to your home where you park the car, could be an inadvertant invitation to come back later and drag the car away.

Mark your cars parts. Years ago, owners would have the VIN etched into the glass. This is a great deterent. Also, get into the hidden areas like behind the bumper covers, dash, seats, etc.... anywhere you can access and "leave your mark" so if / when parts show up on line, YOU or this community, just might find it.

At the meets, we all hang out, talk to each other, look at the cars and bench race for hours. We effectively lose site of our surroundings. Start looking beyond the friendly faces in front of you and see who might be lurking from afar, outside our circle.

Digital photos with geo-tagging, boy this is a scary one. Burglars and kidnappers have been know to use this overlooked loophole to peak into our lives. So can the car thief. It is time to be more careful in the photos we take and locations we use.

It is not difficult, just imagine yourself as the thief and do what it would take to stop "you" from stealing the car.

[Spectragod]

Anyone is welcome to steal my car, it won't be a fast getaway, it's a DTR. That little fact, and, it is stored in an alarmed and well secured facility, plus, it's insured for a stated value.

Car jacking sounds interesting, that may not turn out the way the carjacker plans, but you just never know about these things......

You do have wise words for those that DD theirs, garage queens may not fall into this application so much, but once again, you never know.

[sailsmen]

I owned a GM that was stolen. They found it completely stripped.

They put cheap wheels on it, sat on a cinder block and steered it with a monkey wrench to a side street.

It was obvious they took their time because there were no loose nuts, bolts, screws, washers. The place where they stripped it they had no fear of being caught.

I was told they probably had an order due to another GM suffering damage. IF an MM gets damaged or totalled in your area watch out there maybe an order out to get another MM.

I found out it was probably a strip shop that was "protected" and did not get closed down until there was a new Mayor. It was parked a few block from the strip shop.

I also owned another vehicle that was totalled. A relative had a body shop and parted it out giving me part of the proceeds. When there was next to nothing left they asked me to check it before they hauled it away to the scrap yard.

A ranking "City Worker" was there and kept trying to buy what was left for far more than the scrap value so long as I had clear title and the vin plate was still there. I refused because it did not seem right.

With a clear title and a vin tag a "City Worker" could have a city tow truck tow the same make and model to the pound where he could then pick it up with his title in hand.

[71cyclone]

I owned a GM that was stolen. They found it completely stripped.

They put cheap wheels on it, sat on a cinder block and steered it with a monkey wrench to a side street.

It was obvious they took their time because there were no loose nuts, bolts, screws, washers. The place where they stripped it they had no fear of being caught.

I was told they probably had an order due to another GM suffering damage. IF an MM gets damaged or totalled in your area watch out there maybe an order out to get another MM.

I found out it was probably a strip shop that was "protected" and did not get closed down until there was a new Mayor. It was parked a few block from the strip shop.

I also owned another vehicle that was totalled. A relative had a body shop and parted it out giving me part of the proceeds. When there was next to nothing left they asked me to check it before they hauled it away to the scrap yard.

A ranking "City Worker" was there and kept trying to buy what was left for far more than the scrap value so long as I had clear title and the vin plate was still there. I refused because it did not seem right.

With a clear title and a vin tag a "City Worker" could have a city tow truck tow the same make and model to the pound where he could then pick it up with his title in hand.
HUM // Sounds like ESSEX county ,Jersey :shake:

[Ms. Denmark]

One of our members had his DPB stolen right out of his secured garage while he was away.

[Spectragod]

One of our members had his DPB stolen right out of his secured garage while he was away.

Secured and secured and alarmed are 2 different things, they would probably take one of the 4 Shelby's before my Marauder though.

[tbone]

Good advice. I worry about it being stolen all the time.

[marauder21]

Thanks..I shall be paranoid now...well what's a good brand/product for car alarm? I was thinking viper for the marauder??

[tbone]

Thanks..I shall be paranoid now...well what's a good brand/product for car alarm? I was thinking viper for the marauder??

A hidden fuel shutoff valve would be a lot cheaper and they would never figure it out.

[Haggis]

A hidden fuel shutoff valve would be a lot cheaper and they would never figure it out.

Or just pull a fuse or two.

[Guittard22]

Hello all.

I am sure many of you have noticed the difficulty in locating replacement parts for our cars. And the premium price things like bumpers and various other one off MM parts are commanding. These cars are fading from places like eBay and will soon be gone for the most part.

Sure having a rare car is nice. We all love the uniqueness of our modern classics at the car shows and thumbs up while cruising. The dark side to this is, I predict the car-jacking / thefts of these car will rise. As the market for parts dries up, the black market will pay the thieves to source parts. This site and others like it will be looked at by thieves interested in stealing our cars to part out.

What to do? If selling, be alert. If you get the slightest hint of deception call off the sale or consider meeting a buyer in a public place. Bringing a stranger to your home where you park the car, could be an inadvertant invitation to come back later and drag the car away.

Mark your cars parts. Years ago, owners would have the VIN etched into the glass. This is a great deterent. Also, get into the hidden areas like behind the bumper covers, dash, seats, etc.... anywhere you can access and "leave your mark" so if / when parts show up on line, YOU or this community, just might find it.

At the meets, we all hang out, talk to each other, look at the cars and bench race for hours. We effectively lose site of our surroundings. Start looking beyond the friendly faces in front of you and see who might be lurking from afar, outside our circle.

Digital photos with geo-tagging, boy this is a scary one. Burglars and kidnappers have been know to use this overlooked loophole to peak into our lives. So can the car thief. It is time to be more careful in the photos we take and locations we use.

It is not difficult, just imagine yourself as the thief and do what it would take to stop "you" from stealing the car.




+1 on that

[Ms. Denmark]

Secured and secured and alarmed are 2 different things, they would probably take one of the 4 Shelby's before my Marauder though. Lojack was installed in the car IIRC. Never able to locate the vehicle. Not sure about an alarm on the garage...I'll have to ask.

[Shaijack]

I marked all of my Marauders. I peed in them. Also installed Rattlesnake alarms. One bite and its over.
Serious everyone needs to do whatever it takes to secure your MM's.

[Marauder_Santa]

Good stuff here. Thanks for the wakeup call!

[Mercguy04]

Thanks Paula.
While you can have all the hidden switches, fuses removed, engine removed, what ever
the Flatbed with a hook is alll they need.
Secured doubled secured means little to them. You have to go out sometime or other.
I had Lojack all ready installed, did no good. They seem to find that almost at once.

As to car Jacking, When someone runs up on you with a pistol pointed at you even
through glass, the cars is theres.

I knew a guy once who had a remote kill switch, so if he got car Jacked he could
run across the street, and hit the switch, they wrecked the car a block away, because they bailed and let the car roll into on coming traffic, You can guess how that turned out.

A guy I work with had this installed, Looks like it may work
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/cad03sts/ATT000011.jpg

He has yet to have to use it .
He does use it while he is on the Job.

Bottom line, if some mutt wants your ride, they will get it some how.
Ingenious device if you really look at it. Easy to use and dismount with.
Quick release.
Russell

[Krytin]

A guy I work with had this installed, Looks like it may work
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/cad03sts/ATT000011.jpg




I like this best - I keep mine in the map pocket on the front of the driver's seat when I have it w/me!

[sweetair]

It is always best to be for-warned. Thanks for the intel.

[Mr. Man]

Thanks Paula.
While you can have all the hidden switches, fuses removed, engine removed, what ever
the Flatbed with a hook is alll they need.
Secured doubled secured means little to them. You have to go out sometime or other.
I had Lojack all ready installed, did no good. They seem to find that almost at once.

As to car Jacking, When someone runs up on you with a pistol pointed at you even
through glass, the cars is theres.

I knew a guy once who had a remote kill switch, so if he got car Jacked he could
run across the street, and hit the switch, they wrecked the car a block away, because they bailed and let the car roll into on coming traffic, You can guess how that turned out.

A guy I work with had this installed, Looks like it may work
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/cad03sts/ATT000011.jpg

He has yet to have to use it .
He does use it while he is on the Job.

Bottom line, if some mutt wants your ride, they will get it some how.
Ingenious device if you really look at it. Easy to use and dismount with.
Quick release.
RussellI've thought about this but NJ is not the South or the West. Getting a pistol permit is a PITA. :)

[Krytin]

They used to say that about NY but they gave me one!!!

[marauder21]

Hhhmmm gun idea...I Like it...but that have to wait for later on..as for now I was thinking of getting this type of alarm AND a kill switch/fuel shut off....Hhmm how much for an alarm like in the video would cost? Anyone?....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTZwYE9MUQ0&nomobile=1

[DOOM]

Very good advice Charlie!

[tbone]

Or just pull a fuse or two.

That takes too long. A hidden mechanical fuel shutoff easily accessible would be best. Like a petcock.

[DOOM]

That takes too long. A hidden mechanical fuel shutoff easily accessible would be best. Like a petcock.

Wont stop a tow truck.

Thats how they steal cars around here!

Bottom line is if someone wants it bad enough they will find a way to get it!

[tbone]

Wont stop a tow truck.

Thats how they steal cars around here!

Bottom line is if someone wants it bad enough they will find a way to get it!

Well, that's true. Nothing can stop a tow truck.

[Spectragod]

Thanks Paula.
While you can have all the hidden switches, fuses removed, engine removed, what ever
the Flatbed with a hook is alll they need.
Secured doubled secured means little to them. You have to go out sometime or other.
I had Lojack all ready installed, did no good. They seem to find that almost at once.

As to car Jacking, When someone runs up on you with a pistol pointed at you even
through glass, the cars is theres.

I knew a guy once who had a remote kill switch, so if he got car Jacked he could
run across the street, and hit the switch, they wrecked the car a block away, because they bailed and let the car roll into on coming traffic, You can guess how that turned out.

A guy I work with had this installed, Looks like it may work
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/cad03sts/ATT000011.jpg

He has yet to have to use it .
He does use it while he is on the Job.

Bottom line, if some mutt wants your ride, they will get it some how.
Ingenious device if you really look at it. Easy to use and dismount with.
Quick release.
Russell

Russell,

That looks like a good device, I may have to find one, I generally just keep an off duty gun on my person though.

And for anyone even thinking about carrying a firearm for protection, keep in mind, your life WILL change when you pull the trigger.

As far as some mope running up on me with a gun, it could happen, I always pay attention when stopped and in traffic, I always leave myself a way out while stopped, you have to prepare for the inevitable. I am, and am willing to protect myself, my family and/or my property. We really shouldn't have to live this way, but it is what it is.

[guspech750]

When away for a long period of time. Actually lock the garage door if it has a lock or install a lock that's only accessible from the inside.


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[Blackened300a]

I like this best - I keep mine in the map pocket on the front of the driver's seat when I have it w/me!

Another great use of he 300A map pockets. ;)
My garage is well lit, as well as video monitored 24/7. We also have 24/7 sercurity making the rounds. I also have low ceilings so no chance you are loading this up on a flatbed in the garage and good luck trying to drag it out without spotted.
My NY street smarts keep me always aware of my surroundings at stop lights or wherever I park the car. A carjacker better be prepared to be dragged because I will not give this car up without a fight.

[MOTOWN]

[QUOTE=Mercguy04;1153325]Thanks Paula.
While you can have all the hidden switches, fuses removed, engine removed, what ever
the Flatbed with a hook is alll they need.
Secured doubled secured means little to them. You have to go out sometime or other.
I had Lojack all ready installed, did no good. They seem to find that almost at once.

As to car Jacking, When someone runs up on you with a pistol pointed at you even
through glass, the cars is theres.

I knew a guy once who had a remote kill switch, so if he got car Jacked he could
run across the street, and hit the switch, they wrecked the car a block away, because they bailed and let the car roll into on coming traffic, You can guess how that turned out.

A guy I work with had this installed, Looks like it may work
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/cad03sts/ATT000011.jpg

Best Damn alarm ive seen yet!:lol:

[mike P71]

Thanks Paula.
While you can have all the hidden switches, fuses removed, engine removed, what ever
the Flatbed with a hook is alll they need.
Secured doubled secured means little to them. You have to go out sometime or other.
I had Lojack all ready installed, did no good. They seem to find that almost at once.

As to car Jacking, When someone runs up on you with a pistol pointed at you even
through glass, the cars is theres.

I knew a guy once who had a remote kill switch, so if he got car Jacked he could
run across the street, and hit the switch, they wrecked the car a block away, because they bailed and let the car roll into on coming traffic, You can guess how that turned out.

A guy I work with had this installed, Looks like it may work
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/cad03sts/ATT000011.jpg

He has yet to have to use it .
He does use it while he is on the Job.

Bottom line, if some mutt wants your ride, they will get it some how.
Ingenious device if you really look at it. Easy to use and dismount with.
Quick release.
Russell

I've had a full cary in NY for the last 15 years .When Mr Smith and Mr Wesson are with me I feel very secure

[Mercguy04]

Gentalman,
Let consider some of the senario's.


Hhhmmm gun idea...I Like it...but that have to wait for later on..as for now I was thinking of getting this type of alarm AND a kill switch/fuel shut off....Hhmm how much for an alarm like in the video would cost? Anyone?....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTZwYE9MUQ0&nomobile=1

Marauder21, Very nice set up, however most people don't pay any attention to car alarms any longer. The one in the cabin is a good idea
but it needs to be very load come from all around you. Not just under the dash. Cutting the wires would end that. May I suggest that since you
have outside alarms you install them front and rear so the whole car is an
alarm

[QUOTE=guspech750;1153432]When away for a long period of time. Actually lock the garage door if it has a lock or install a lock that's only accessible from the inside.

Joe,
This is a good idea. What I see here is an outside lock, No problem
The inside lock only accessible from the inside.
First how do you access the inside lock to open the door, You could use a
electronic switch. which uses a frequency to trigger the lock.Not bad.
If I wanted your car I would set close to your house and use a frequency
scanner to find the correct frequency and program a unlocking device to
trigger the release the lock.


Originally Posted by Krytin http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1153334#post1 153334)
I like this best - I keep mine in the map pocket on the front of the driver's seat when I have it w/me!

Krytin,
Good Idea, question are you left handed? If so than the gun is in your hand when you exit the vehicle. Problem here (and I share this with you because I am left handed) is most times the mutt is jerking the door open, so there is a time factor to consider, Second, If this mutt see the gun in your hand
your a dead man. Solution is to learn to use the firearm with you right
hand. Exit the vehicle with the sidearm at your side next to you leg.
As soon as you are out of the vehicle, bring the weapon up to your just above you belt line and place your shoulder to your elbow next to your
body as close and tight as you can, point the weapon at the mutt and
fire twice, if there is more that one mutt, Turn towards the other mutt
and repeat same action. It you stick you arm out to arms length the mutt
has a chance to grab your weapon and disarm you or move the point of
the firearm away from his direction. Holding next to your side pointing only
from your elbow out, you have a much better chance of hitting your target,
and less chance of being disarmed. It Takes practice to use your right hand
if you are left handed. Trust me I know. I can use sidearms in either hand.

The same is true with the photo I provided you with, as you exit the vehicle your right leg and butt will shield the firearm from the mutt and
you have a better chance to get on target.

One thing to remember is what Midtown told you, your life will change
forever once you pull the trigger. Not only legally, but how you see things
from that day forward. You have to live with the fact, you have killed
another person. Doesn't matter that he was a mutt, It is extremely
difficult to carry around this action you have carried out.

LEO are trained to deal with this, but it still is not easy the first or the
second time.

My garage is well lit, as well as video monitored 24/7. We also have 24/7 sercurity making the rounds. I also have low ceilings so no chance you are loading this up on a flatbed in the garage and good luck trying to drag it out without spotted.
My NY street smarts keep me always aware of my surroundings at stop lights or wherever I park the car. A carjacker better be prepared to be dragged because I will not give this car up without a fight.

Paul,
Remember the mutt is armed, you may not have the chance to move
and drag this guy down the street. You know as well as I do how much
traffic is in NY,Chicago or any metro area. Think about trying to cross
34th St.durning any part of the day from the Queens Midtown to the
Linclon tunnel. You really just can't pull out into on coming traffic or move
to the right of left. Think of the Northern or Southern State Pkwy or LIE.
It is good you live in a gated community and they provide 24/7 patrols
Your Street smarts is of great value to you and those of us that have it.
Some don't. That is why I and many like me are on the Job.To protect
and serve.

Thanks for your time
Russell

[guspech750]

Joe,
This is a good idea. What I see here is an outside lock, No problem
The inside lock only accessible from the inside.
First how do you access the inside lock to open the door
[/I]
Well for someone with a detached garage, that would be an issue. But for someone with garage attached to their home. That person could lock the garage from the inside, set their home alarm via a remote and go out the front door. That way their house is secured and the garage is locked from the inside.

I suppose one could always park the MM sideways in the garage too. Put the car on those wheel dollies, spin the car sideways, jack up the car, remove and hide the dollies.

Man ***** sucks that we all even have to talk about this sort of thing :(

WTH!! Total BS.



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[TAKEDOWN]

^^^... and also park other owned vehicles in front of garage if available! Here in the city crooks like to back into your garage door in attempt to get it off track using tow trucks etc. and with a hanger pull on your emergency chord/string by the overhead in your garage and B00M entrance made! When this became the new reoccurring thing to do by Scumbags I removed the string immediately. People tend to want silent alarms (In hopes the Po-Po will catch 'em), but I'd rather have an audible one and scare 'em away or at least a neighbor might be a witness in catching a license plate or description of offender/s, but if I'm home "Beware of Owner and his DOgs". If they want it they'll get it so let them find an easier prey <--- it's a shame we have to think like this! ^^^

[Mercguy04]

Joe, you and Touchdown have good ideas.
If you have neighborhood watch then that is also helpful.
I hope I didn't offend anyone by my coments earlier in this thread.
Just trying to help. As I said I've already lost one DBP., I thought I had things in
hand, but I guess NOT.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
Russell

[DOOM]

For all of you guys packing guns.

What happens IF someone gets the drop on you and you can't use it?

What then?

I'm not knocking you guys but a gun isn't the the end all be all answer!

[MOTOWN]

For all of you guys packing guns.

What happens IF someone gets the drop on you and you can't use it?

What then?

I'm not knocking you guys but a gun isn't the the end all be all answer!

Then its time to knuckle up!:argue: and open a big can o WHOOP AZZ

[DEFYANT]

The essence here is deterance. We all know if they want it, they'll get it. But why not make it difficult to take, and then difficult to out sourse the parts. If Defyant Marauder ever ends up in a chop shop, there will be some very disappointed thieves. Her parts are marked and cataloged.

I must comment on the guns. I am a proponant of self protection. I am also a fan of all of you staying alive and not being shot by the police because of some misinturpreted furtive movement!

IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO DIE WHEN PULLED OVER BY POLICE, DO THIS:
You are driving along, minding your own beezwax when the lights come on behind you. TURN ON RIGHT DIRECTIONAL, SIGNAL INTENTION TO PULL OVER TO THE RIGHT, WHILE LOWING ALL YOUR WINDOWS. UPON STOPPING, PLACE VEHICLE IN PARK AND SHUT IT DOWN. PLACE YOU HANDS ON THE 12 O'CLOCK POSITION IF THE STEERING WHEEL. AWAIT THE OFFICER TO APPROACH. AFTER THE OFFICER APPROACHES, ADVISE YOU ARE ARMED AND THE LOCATION OF THE WEAPON. FOLLOW ANY INSTRUCTIONS TO THE LETTER.

Special note for the super duper dark tinted windows: You're at more risk for being stopped and having the officer respond with back up and weapons at the ready. Be extra careful.

The tread is not intended to incite paranoia, just, as someone said, provide a wake up call. I am just as guilty as the rest of you in letting my guard down sometimes. Key is to recognize it, and prevent it from happening again.

[marauder21]

Good point Hhmm what are your initial response to a killswitch Russell? and I have a question...in Illinois there's an age limit to carry a firearm...lets say there's a gun in the glove compartment and your 17 yr old son has used said firearm in Self-defense from someone trying to rob the car. Can he get penalized as well for carrying a concealed weapon in vehicle and being underage?


Gentalman,
Let consider some of the senario's.



Marauder21, Very nice set up, however most people don't pay any attention to car alarms any longer. The one in the cabin is a good idea
but it needs to be very load come from all around you. Not just under the dash. Cutting the wires would end that. May I suggest that since you
have outside alarms you install them front and rear so the whole car is an
alarm

[QUOTE=guspech750;1153432]When away for a long period of time. Actually lock the garage door if it has a lock or install a lock that's only accessible from the inside.

Joe,
This is a good idea. What I see here is an outside lock, No problem
The inside lock only accessible from the inside.
First how do you access the inside lock to open the door, You could use a
electronic switch. which uses a frequency to trigger the lock.Not bad.
If I wanted your car I would set close to your house and use a frequency
scanner to find the correct frequency and program a unlocking device to
trigger the release the lock.


Originally Posted by Krytin http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1153334#post1 153334)
I like this best - I keep mine in the map pocket on the front of the driver's seat when I have it w/me!

Krytin,
Good Idea, question are you left handed? If so than the gun is in your hand when you exit the vehicle. Problem here (and I share this with you because I am left handed) is most times the mutt is jerking the door open, so there is a time factor to consider, Second, If this mutt see the gun in your hand
your a dead man. Solution is to learn to use the firearm with you right
hand. Exit the vehicle with the sidearm at your side next to you leg.
As soon as you are out of the vehicle, bring the weapon up to your just above you belt line and place your shoulder to your elbow next to your
body as close and tight as you can, point the weapon at the mutt and
fire twice, if there is more that one mutt, Turn towards the other mutt
and repeat same action. It you stick you arm out to arms length the mutt
has a chance to grab your weapon and disarm you or move the point of
the firearm away from his direction. Holding next to your side pointing only
from your elbow out, you have a much better chance of hitting your target,
and less chance of being disarmed. It Takes practice to use your right hand
if you are left handed. Trust me I know. I can use sidearms in either hand.

The same is true with the photo I provided you with, as you exit the vehicle your right leg and butt will shield the firearm from the mutt and
you have a better chance to get on target.

One thing to remember is what Midtown told you, your life will change
forever once you pull the trigger. Not only legally, but how you see things
from that day forward. You have to live with the fact, you have killed
another person. Doesn't matter that he was a mutt, It is extremely
difficult to carry around this action you have carried out.

LEO are trained to deal with this, but it still is not easy the first or the
second time.

My garage is well lit, as well as video monitored 24/7. We also have 24/7 sercurity making the rounds. I also have low ceilings so no chance you are loading this up on a flatbed in the garage and good luck trying to drag it out without spotted.
My NY street smarts keep me always aware of my surroundings at stop lights or wherever I park the car. A carjacker better be prepared to be dragged because I will not give this car up without a fight.

Paul,
Remember the mutt is armed, you may not have the chance to move
and drag this guy down the street. You know as well as I do how much
traffic is in NY,Chicago or any metro area. Think about trying to cross
34th St.durning any part of the day from the Queens Midtown to the
Linclon tunnel. You really just can't pull out into on coming traffic or move
to the right of left. Think of the Northern or Southern State Pkwy or LIE.
It is good you live in a gated community and they provide 24/7 patrols
Your Street smarts is of great value to you and those of us that have it.
Some don't. That is why I and many like me are on the Job.To protect
and serve.

Thanks for your time
Russell

[Mr. Man]

For all of you guys packing guns.

What happens IF someone gets the drop on you and you can't use it?

What then?

I'm not knocking you guys but a gun isn't the the end all be all answer!
Well buckeroo if that should happen it's just a car in the long run and if someone has a gun pointed at your head and demands the keys it's best to just give them away. MM isn't worth your life.

I think what these guys are saying is that most car jackers aren't expecting a tactical response from their victims which funny as it sounds actually gives them the upper hand.

You must access the situation and make the call.:)

[babbage]

A hidden fuel shutoff valve would be a lot cheaper and they would never figure it out.


Or just pull a fuse or two.


The essence here is deterance. We all know if they want it, they'll get it. But why not make it difficult to take, and then difficult to out sourse the parts. If Defyant Marauder ever ends up in a chop shop, there will be some very disappointed thieves. Her parts are marked and cataloged.

I must comment on the guns. I am a proponant of self protection. I am also a fan of all of you staying alive and not being shot by the police because of some misinturpreted furtive movement!

IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO DIE WHEN PULLED OVER BY POLICE, DO THIS:
You are driving along, minding your own beezwax when the lights come on behind you. TURN ON RIGHT DIRECTIONAL, SIGNAL INTENTION TO PULL OVER TO THE RIGHT, WHILE LOWING ALL YOUR WINDOWS. UPON STOPPING, PLACE VEHICLE IN PARK AND SHUT IT DOWN. PLACE YOU HANDS ON THE 12 O'CLOCK POSITION IF THE STEERING WHEEL. AWAIT THE OFFICER TO APPROACH. AFTER THE OFFICER APPROACHES, ADVISE YOU ARE ARMED AND THE LOCATION OF THE WEAPON. FOLLOW ANY INSTRUCTIONS TO THE LETTER.

Special note for the super duper dark tinted windows: You're at more risk for being stopped and having the officer respond with back up and weapons at the ready. Be extra careful.

The tread is not intended to incite paranoia, just, as someone said, provide a wake up call. I am just as guilty as the rest of you in letting my guard down sometimes. Key is to recognize it, and prevent it from happening again.


In Australia they this stuff: The most powerful theft deterrent in the world!

http://www.nanotag.com/How_Does_It_Work_.html

You can put 10 or 20 of these all over your car.

[Krytin]

I must comment on the guns. I am a proponant of self protection. I am also a fan of all of you staying alive and not being shot by the police because of some misinturpreted furtive movement!

IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO DIE WHEN PULLED OVER BY POLICE, DO THIS:
You are driving along, minding your own beezwax when the lights come on behind you. TURN ON RIGHT DIRECTIONAL, SIGNAL INTENTION TO PULL OVER TO THE RIGHT, WHILE LOWING ALL YOUR WINDOWS. UPON STOPPING, PLACE VEHICLE IN PARK AND SHUT IT DOWN. PLACE YOU HANDS ON THE 12 O'CLOCK POSITION IF THE STEERING WHEEL. AWAIT THE OFFICER TO APPROACH. AFTER THE OFFICER APPROACHES, ADVISE YOU ARE ARMED AND THE LOCATION OF THE WEAPON. FOLLOW ANY INSTRUCTIONS TO THE LETTER.

Special note for the super duper dark tinted windows: You're at more risk for being stopped and having the officer respond with back up and weapons at the ready. Be extra careful.

The tread is not intended to incite paranoia, just, as someone said, provide a wake up call. I am just as guilty as the rest of you in letting my guard down sometimes. Key is to recognize it, and prevent it from happening again.

An absolute MUST ^^^^ right there. Thanks for putting that up Charlie.

This is the first thing I was told when I got my permit! When I travel armed - almost always to the range only, w/a few exceptions - I have my permit ready in a clear travel wallet/I.D. holder hanging from my neck. If I was ever to be pulled over I would display it while lifting the cord up from behind/back of neck. the only reason I keep the weapon in the map pocket when driving is that I am right handed and the paddle holster I use is a high ride but because of my size it's pretty much pinned to the console!

[Krytin]

For all of you guys packing guns.

What happens IF someone gets the drop on you and you can't use it?

What then?

I'm not knocking you guys but a gun isn't the the end all be all answer!


Your gonna loose your wallet, your car and your weapon if it's found!

When I am carrying I like to think or at least I try to be a little more alert of my suroundings/situation. If person or persons unknown are aproaching and there is anything that looks or feels out of place, the map pocket on the front of the seat is going to be empty.

[tbone]

In Australia they this stuff: The most powerful theft deterrent in the world!

http://www.nanotag.com/How_Does_It_Work_.html

You can put 10 or 20 of these all over your car.

I like it. I would sprinkle them around like gold dust.

I clicked on the buy now button, but nothing shows up.

[Spectragod]

For all of you guys packing guns.

What happens IF someone gets the drop on you and you can't use it?

What then?

I'm not knocking you guys but a gun isn't the the end all be all answer!


Uhmmmm, here ya go.... http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/

But really, I prefer edged weapons to a gun, way more "personal". Have you ever seen what one who is trained with a knife can do? I have some pictures, kinda graphic, I don't believe I'll post them here.

If someone gets the drop on you, then it's a fight, use what you have at hand.

[Mercguy04]

Darren is right, a blade is much more effective in close quarters.
Midtown is also right, step into the mutt and start punching. The mutt will never except
you to do that. Close quarter work is best, a knife comes as a real suprise. You need it in hand though. Stick it in and pull up.
As for the kid car in IL. Most States require you have the weapon and ammo in different locations and in a locked box. Glove compartment is not a locked box. So yes the kid is going to be under arrest. Even with a CCW, you will at the very least be held for questioning, if I have to discharge my weapon, I am in for hours of paper work and exam by internal affairs, not to mention a possible Grand Jury inquire. Please remember you life must be in direct danger to use deadly force. That doesn't mean the guy running away from you. Please have good attorney, you will more than likely need one. The NRA can provide you with a list of names in your area.
The kill switch is find as long as you are not there when the car stops running.
The mutt may destroy you ride although because he is pissed.
Marking the glass is fine, but once it is across an international border, Like South America the middle east or eastern Europe, Title means almost nothing. Take a look at the impound yard in any Mexican border town. If you get it back, it may be years and the is destroyed. Best thing is good insurance with a declared value.
Good luck Gentalman.
Thanks for your time
Russell

[Guittard22]

I have it's on my truck works good :) and not to much money to keep your ride safe .

http://www.gamainc.com/bs200/

[STEPS]

I'm protected by Smith & Wesson

[Da Dark Jedi]

We have alot of garages being broken into here in Chicago. Recently the criminal element uses vans to ram into the bay doors. Neighbors are watching you come and go. A few years ago we had a double homicide where the guy across the alley was breaking into his neighbors garage and stealing parts off the guys car. When CPD finger print technician came out the neighbor came out and shot both of them. Myself... I've had all four wheels stolen, left me sitting on concrete blocks, this was in 2007.

[Spectragod]

We have alot of garages being broken into here in Chicago. Recently the criminal element uses vans to ram into the bay doors. Neighbors are watching you come and go. A few years ago we had a double homicide where the guy across the alley was breaking into his neighbors garage and stealing parts off the guys car. When CPD finger print technician came out the neighbor came out and shot both of them. Myself... I've had all four wheels stolen, left me sitting on concrete blocks, this was in 2007.

Strict gun laws in Chicago = your stuff being stolen.

[SlkMerc]

What fuses to pull? - FP?

[Shaijack]

I park Blue in the alarmed garage and pull Red up to the door. No one wants to steal a Red.

[FastMerc]

I like it. I would sprinkle them around like gold dust.

I clicked on the buy now button, but nothing shows up.
Ya me to nothing...