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MENINBLK
02-02-2004, 02:39 AM
I'm not sure this is possible, but I am interested in seeing it through.

Is there a Memory Seat option available in the GM or LTC that could possibly be implanted into the Marauder ??
If there is such an existing option, does it also memorize mirror positions ?
Does it push the driver's seat back for exiting ?

If there is such an option, I would be interested in seeing the schematics of these circuits, in comparison to the Marauder's current circuits,
and seeing what has to be purchased/added/modded/created to make this into
a fully functional, easily installable, aftermarket kit for ourselves...

:rock:

martyo
02-02-2004, 03:50 AM
Personally, I don't need one. No one else is allowed to drive my boy!

RoyLPita
02-02-2004, 06:10 AM
It will cost big $$$$ to do something like this. There are a number of parts to consider if this gets done like wiring harnesses, modules, switches, and remote key fobs (with the memory function) plus applicable labor costs. Also, there is no place to put the memory switch on the Marauder driver door panel.

Just my .02

Marauder
02-02-2004, 06:54 AM
Personally, I don't need one. No one else is allowed to drive my boy!
I'm with Marty...no one but me, myself, and I drives my car.

But the 2004 TC has a 2 memory seat option.

jfclancy
02-02-2004, 07:00 AM
I'm with Marty but the 2004 TC has a 2 memory seat option.
my 1996 Crown Vic sport had this option it is probably wired in the existing harness and not used. IMHO it is not worth the expense as it just mover the seat not the mirrors, I have only seen that on Lexus.

Joe CLancy

nslatin
02-02-2004, 07:06 AM
The TC has this option. Works for seat & mirrors. And it is keyed to each keyless entry fob. Fob #1 = memory setting #1, and same for #2. Seat also moves back when the key is removed. Nice idea but it means the forward/rear movement just wears out the motor over time.

MENINBLK
02-02-2004, 09:52 AM
The TC has this option. Works for seat & mirrors. And it is keyed to each keyless entry fob. Fob #1 = memory setting #1, and same for #2. Seat also moves back when the key is removed. Nice idea but it means the forward/rear movement just wears out the motor over time.

Then what did we get POWER SEATS for if we can't use them ???
If they were just adjust, set, and leave, then Manual would have been fine.
Power is there for the user.
If you guys don't want the feature, then you don't have to buy it.

Just because FORD wants $$$$$$ for the option, doesn't mean a retrofit kit would cost the same.
I haven't even done any research on this to find out if it is even possible.
The Marauder may just have the harnesses already installed, and the wiring is jut not being utilized.

If it is a matter of changing switches, and installing a replacement remote module to buy you the feature, this is at the minimum.
Mods can be made to the escutchens to make the switches accessible.

I am looking to get my hands on the Service Manual CDs for all of these vehicles
and just do the comparisons and research on my own Marauder.
If I can do it, and it is affordable, it would be nice to offer it to those Marauder owners,
who have a need or want this feature.
If you don't want it, that's fine too.
I'm not expecting 100% of all Marauders owners to jump on this.
Maybe only 20% would be interested.

Just having the seat move back and forth upon exit/entry is what I am interested in.
This is also a function of the Memory Module.

FordNut
02-02-2004, 11:22 AM
Just because FORD wants $$$$$$ for the option, doesn't mean a retrofit kit would cost the same.

It would probably cost more as a retrofit than it would as a factory installed option.


Just having the seat move back and forth upon exit/entry is what I am interested in.

That is what really irritated me with the LS I had. It had this feature and if you put something in the back floorboard it will either be squashed or slide up under the seat on braking and then be squashed.

But if you like them you ought to have them! Go for it!

TAF
02-02-2004, 11:27 AM
I actually like this feature. Especially for getting in and out of the car. I like how the seat goes back and the steering wheel adjust back and up. It's also pretty cool how when you get in, it adjusts for your setting...like stepping into a cockpit....Although, I understand Fordnut's points...we have a little more room behind the seat than an LS.

So...go for it...and keep us updated. :up:

tbore007
02-02-2004, 02:14 PM
I also would like this feature, but just another thing they left out..ad it to the list.....

Patrick
02-02-2004, 05:19 PM
I had 98LSC before the MM. It was nice but because I change seat positions all the time even when driving so it would a waste for me. But I hope you can find a set up for you!!!! :rock: :rock:

jgc61sr2002
02-02-2004, 08:51 PM
Sounds like big bucks. I am sure some one on this board will figure it out. Once my seat was adjusted I never moved it again since I am the only driver.

rookie1
02-03-2004, 04:29 AM
I would be totally into it if it could be done. my wife has it on her Aurora and I freakin love it since she adjusts her seat to a distance of about 1" from the steering wheel. With the Aurora you get 2 key fobs for Driver 1 and Driver 2. Unlock the car with either fob and it goes the correct settings. Also, call me an idiot but I think it's cool watching the seat move back, lower, tilt, and recline before I open the door. Simple mind I guess.

ahess77
02-03-2004, 05:40 AM
This modification isn't as bad as you might think. If you can get ahold of an older style memory seat module, like out of a Mark VIII or similar, it is a somewhat independant unit, only needs to interface with the keyFOB receiver. Newer systems are all integrated into a smartJB or GEM module and require multiplexed controls.

How these systems work is that there are potentiometers (variable resistors) mounted to the seats and to the mirrors. There will be sensor wires that must be routed back to the memory seat module, and wires that go directly from the memory seat module to the mirrors and seat. I would expect you would need to do the following:

Obtain a memory seat module and keyFOB receiver that work together. Get rid of the current keyFOB receiver and replace it with the new one (it will still have a lock/unlock output that is appropriate for the door locks).

Retrofit seats with sensors, it would probably be easier to buy seats that have the sensors in it and change the mountings to fit the Marauder floor. Towncar seats may come close, a good upolstry shop can try to redo the seats with similar leather to the Marauder and make them fit between the B-pillar and console. Make sure the module has the same sensor inputs as the seats have (i.e., if you have a Mark VIII module, get a Mark VIII seat.)

Retrofit the mirror electric glass actuators with ones from the towncar. You'll need to run all 8 wires new from each actuator through the door to the memory seat module. The plastic case that holds the mirror will need to be glued/bonded to the new actuator since it will not mount the same.

Retrofit the mirror actuator switch with one from the memory system since the inputs now goto the memory seat module and not to the mirrors directly. These switches generally are very similar and should mount OK in the door panel.

Install a memory switch somewhere, its a three button switch that wires directly to the memory seat module.

The memory seat module will need 20amp power and ground for when it runs the seats and mirrors simultaneously, and then just hook it up to both mirrors (16 wires) and both seats (8 to 12 wires) and both switches (9 wires) and the replaced keyFOB receiver (2 wires).

I know of a mock-up shop in Detroit area that would quote around $7,000 for this change depending on how fancy you wanted to get with reupolstering the seats.

Don't forget, there are also memory pedal positions and memory radio presets if you also want to change those systems.

tbore007
02-03-2004, 04:14 PM
wow. good job. sounds like you know your stuff