Why so many get totaled?

[Bradley G]

Maybe it because we love this car so much we pay attention to how many get an early demise.
I've had some very close calls with the MM and it is usually due to traction, or lack there of.
I'm going to say the lion share of accidents that end a Marauders useful life early are due to lack of grip.
Lots o power + lots o weight, maybe some wet pavement and or low tire tread.
Or how about mismatched tires?

[MOTOWN]

Just the normal cycle of an automobile

[DOOM]

Also THEFT!!!

[MrBluGruv]

Maybe in a S/C Marauder grip would be a problem, but if you can't handle the power and grip bias of an N/A Marauder, on dry roads at least, I don't think you belong behind the wheel of an even remotely powerful car...

[capt512]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVb8uZqJpvg - this is why

[71cyclone]

Also THEFT!!!
Liberty mutual 's rates are based on prior records on Marauders vs Vics and GrM's [ DITTO /// THEFT and RECOVEREY ] plus the fact if the insurance company even smells a bent unibody or frame, however minor 1/16 " it is a automatic total loss that they will resale at an auction.Unless u buy it back with a new salvage title

[Mr. Man]

Inattention to what's going on around you is my guess. Ask any cop that does traffic and I'd bet if they've heard it once they've heard it a thousand times, "I just looked away for a second and ......"

[marauder21]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVb8uZqJpvg - this is why

Yeah honestly Im Not gonna say anything about this guy..whatever...but one thing I like though was the sound..anyone know What type of exhaust That could be?

[slickster]

Well it's not a bad handling car but IMO stock brakes suck when cold. Tires go bad much faster then most cars and they go bad where you can't hardly see it. Most people don't check the front inners and rear centers. Reasons like these are understandable. For Most people are not GOOD drivers. Something really crazy has to happened for me to get onto a wreck and even at that I will make it to where it's less extreme. Most people will not think about all this but you are in control of a weapon and somewhere a mother and father is bringing home there first born and at the same time a man is stopping for more beer to drink in his pickup truck cause he can't wait to get to the bar. Ahhh ok I'm done

[smacdiesel]

I have had my car three weeks and have had three near accidents. I think it is because I drive faster and the car is black.

[Vortech347]

As these cars drop in value the total out window becomes much bigger. When the damages are higher than 70% of the car it could be totaled depending on your insurance company.

Just went through this in December, our 01 Cobra was totaled out. :(

[gdmjoe]

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High performance cars ...
Low performance drivers!

[CBT]

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High performance cars ...

Low performance drivers!

joe, lol :beer:

[Haggis]

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High performance cars ...
low performance drivers!

+1............

[Phrog_gunner]

Higher ratio of old drivers and slow reaction times.

[Haggis]

Higher ratio of old drivers and slow reaction times.

By the way where is dakslim?

[Phrog_gunner]

I dunno, I've been working a ton. Maybe ill call him this weekend.

[Bluerauder]

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High performance cars ...
Low performance drivers!

^^^^^^ +2 !!!


Higher ratio of old drivers and slow reaction times.

What ^^^^^ :bs: I'll check my reaction time against yours anytime. :P

Check the threads and posts here and I think you'll find that most if not ALL of the Marauder wrecks and losses come back to youth and inexperience.

I agree with BradleyG that loss of grip is a prime contributor to problems. Poor tread or poor traction due to road conditions has lead to MOST of the spinout wrecks posted here over the years.

[SC Cheesehead]

Higher ratio of old drivers and slow reaction times.


^^^^^^ +2 !!!



What ^^^^^ :bs: I'll check my reaction time against yours anytime. :P

Check the threads and posts here and I think you'll find that most if not ALL of the Marauder wrecks and losses come back to youth and inexperience.

I agree with BradleyG that loss of grip is a prime contributor to problems. Poor tread or poor traction due to road conditions has lead to MOST of the spinout wrecks posted here over the years.


Our DTR was totalled out while my wife was driving to work, a 20-something was heading home from an all night party, passed out, swerved into my wife, even after she took evasive action.

So much for old drivers and slow reaction times... :cool:

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[Bradley G]

Thanks for weighing in on this thread.
I had not considered the poor driver/slo reaction, as a cronic flaw in the grand scheme.

[Mac-MerC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVb8uZqJpvg

One of the best Marauder videos on YouTube.. hands down
And im serious

[DOOM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVb8uZqJpvg - this is why

That's Mike Heckman from our Louisville 07 meet!

He's a beast behind the wheel! :drive:

[CBT]

That's Mike Heckman from our Louisville 07 meet!

He's a beast behind the wheel! :drive:


Bwahahahahaaaa!!! Mikey been working on his tan.

[Bluerauder]

Thanks for weighing in on this thread.
I had not considered the poor driver/slo reaction, as a cronic flaw in the grand scheme.
There's a reason why insurance premiums for young people and poor drivers are very high compared to the rest of the population. Their driving record is reflected in how much they pay.

[cruzer]

Higher ratio of old drivers and slow reaction times.
I challenge you to a road race or reaction time race-- 22,000 hours flying time--lots of fighters :burnout: Maury

[Marauderman]

The smak is on fellows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CBT]

I blame society for all the wrecked Marauders. And deer. But mainly society.

[Mercguy04]

In most cases we value this car as a collectable, since this is so, why are so many
people driving them as daily drivers. Look at the milage on most of the car for sales
close to or over 100K

Both Joe and Darren keep there cars for shows and such, I'm sure there are many others who should be included in this roster of non daily drivers.

If you have to use the car as a daily, be aware of how many newer car are in the
bone yard.

There are some damn fool drivers out there, why risk your prized ride for a daily
comute.

I have a 68 AMX I have owned for 34 Years, never once any fender benders
same is true with my 96 Impala SS, 70 Ols 442, for that matter my 08 STSV
That car has less than 8500 miles on it. I like it very mucy. Do I drive it everyday
NO I drive a turbo VW bug as a daily driver is an 03 has 59000 miles on it and
runs like a top.

So If you want to see the Marauder become extent than by all means drive it daily.
Some one will evenully run in to you.

If you want the Marauder to become collectable then DO NOT use it as a daily.

That is the answer. Buy a beater or two and drive them. Not your Marauder.

JMHO I am not wrong on this issue. Why do collectable insurance company
limit your milage on a yearly basics, HELLO.

[Spectragod]

I've considered buying a enclosed trailer just so I can get my car to events further out of town, just to keep it nice. Not really looking forward to dropping 20k for a trailer, maybe I can use it as a write off somehow.:confused:


In most cases we value this car as a collectable, since this is so, why are so many
people driving them as daily drivers. Look at the milage on most of the car for sales
close to or over 100K

Both Joe and Darren keep there cars for shows and such, I'm sure there are many others who should be included in this roster of non daily drivers.

If you have to use the car as a daily, be aware of how many newer car are in the
bone yard.

There are some damn fool drivers out there, why risk your prized ride for a daily
comute.

I have a 68 AMX I have owned for 34 Years, never once any fender benders
same is true with my 96 Impala SS, 70 Ols 442, for that matter my 08 STSV
That car has less than 8500 miles on it. I like it very mucy. Do I drive it everyday
NO I drive a turbo VW bug as a daily driver is an 03 has 59000 miles on it and
runs like a top.

So If you want to see the Marauder become extent than by all means drive it daily.
Some one will evenully run in to you.

If you want the Marauder to become collectable then DO NOT use it as a daily.

That is the answer. Buy a beater or two and drive them. Not your Marauder.

JMHO I am not wrong on this issue. Why do collectable insurance company
limit your milage on a yearly basics, HELLO.

[CBT]

I've considered buying a enclosed trailer just so I can get my car to events further out of town, just to keep it nice. Not really looking forward to dropping 20k for a trailer, maybe I can use it as a write off somehow.:confused:

You could say you bought an orphan shelter. DTR has comfy ride, Spectragod look like community hero. It's a WIN-WIN.

[Mac-MerC]

[QUOTE=Mercguy04;1157194] There are some damn fool drivers out there, why risk your prized ride for a daily
comute.

So If you want to see the Marauder become extent than by all means drive it daily.
Some one will evenully run in to you.

If you want the Marauder to become collectable then DO NOT use it as a daily.

That is the answer. Buy a beater or two and drive them. Not your Marauder.
[QUOTE]

Shut the hell up.
not everyone has this option... and u sound real stupid to think that if u dont use your car as a daily that u will never get into an accident. an accident can happen at anyday at anytime, so maybe next time u pull yours out somebody might hit your ass.

[marauder21]

^^^true.. in my opinion the worst thing you can ever do to a car, is not drive it.

[Phrog_gunner]

Shut the hell up.
not everyone has this option... and u sound real stupid to think that if u dont use your car as a daily that u will never get into an accident. an accident can happen at anyday at anytime, so maybe next time u pull yours out somebody might hit your ass.

There's this thing they just invented, it's called statistics....

[Baaad GN]

Gentlemen this discussion has been going on for years, same things said etc. I have belonged to GN sites since 1987 when I first got my GN, but there were more 87 GN's than your cars. It never failed someone was putting role cages etc etc and to be blunt really chopping the GN's up to make them faster. Every time I heard these things in the back of my Head I said GREAT. Less unmolested GN's out there just increase's the value of my car and I still used it! Now almost 48,000 miles (:-()and strait as an arrow. The add on's I've done can be changed in one day to 100% stock for a true purist! Just another way to look at it!!!!

[Spectragod]

[QUOTE=Mercguy04;1157194] There are some damn fool drivers out there, why risk your prized ride for a daily
comute.

So If you want to see the Marauder become extent than by all means drive it daily.
Some one will evenully run in to you.

If you want the Marauder to become collectable then DO NOT use it as a daily.

That is the answer. Buy a beater or two and drive them. Not your Marauder.
[QUOTE]

Shut the hell up.
not everyone has this option... and u sound real stupid to think that if u dont use your car as a daily that u will never get into an accident. an accident can happen at anyday at anytime, so maybe next time u pull yours out somebody might hit your ass.

There's no such thing as an "accident", they are all preventable.

If you want your car to stay "nice", don't drive it. You can always repaint and fix the interior, but you can't remove the miles.

The sky could fall if I pull mine out and crush it, if that happens, well, that's why I have an agreed value insurance policy, which also limits the miles I can put on the car.

I bought mine to embarrass all the so called supercars, that is it's sole purpose in life, it does a good job of it, I have 3 DD's, so it's not an issue for me, but I get where your coming from.

[MrBluGruv]

What it REALLY comes down to is a matter of money, if you think of it that way.

How deep down into the construction of the car can you go before replacing a part or section makes it not the original car? Could you replace EVERYTHING around the frame with NOS or OEM replacement parts and have a "new" Marauder? What all even must be replaced or retouched in order to look and drive like new, and what is inconsequential?


Like I said, to an LARGE extent, the biggest limiting factor to the quality of your Marauder now will be how much money you have, and of that how much you are willing to put into it.

[marauder21]

Well I put mods on mine..but the mods so far are ones you could easily remove to make it stock again. But is it true if you supercharge your marauder it increases the value of it??

[Mercguy04]

"Shut the hell up.
not everyone has this option... and u sound real stupid to think that if u dont use your car as a daily that u will never get into an accident. an accident can happen at anyday at anytime, so maybe next time u pull yours out somebody might hit your ass"

That is not what I said. The question generally was.

" Why so many get totaled?"

The more miles you use your Marauder, the more chances you take.
Simple answer to a simple question


I would think you are right, I could get hit anytime, anywhere. I could get killed going through a door. But I go anyway. I am not foolish enough to not wear a vest and maybe some body armor. I am looking out for trouble at all times. Hell I could hit by a bus if I wasn't paying attention to my surrounding. Even before I went to Paris Island I was street wise, but there they tauch me to be even more aware of my surrounding. It served me well in Viet Nam, and it has served me well on the street. As a LEO
I am in harms way much more than most and so far I am still upright.

Darren said it right, "There's no such thing as an "accident", they are all preventable."
I think you have some anger issues you need to deal with. Your comment, although correct in many ways, showed how upset you are.

In a polite society we don't need to cast aspersions on each other.
If you feel you have something to contribute, than be all means please do
so. Your input is valuable to us all, and you have the every right to express
it. Thank you for your comments they are always welcome.
Please drive safely

[Mac-MerC]

We dont live in a polite society, im sorry to hear that your a leo

"The more miles you use your Marauder, the more chances you take."
Thats a Lie... every other day someone is posting pictures of totaled Marauders with 40k or so on the clock. barely broken in
We are totally off the initial question... In the end its just a car. If u drive it, drive it... If u dont want to dont. if u crash it, oh well... If u dont crash it thats good for u.

If my car gets totalled... oh well. I'll just get another one or something else. The End

[Phrog_gunner]

I went to Paris Island

I knew there was something I didn't like about you. :beer:

[Stoneblue]

When I was a kid (16-25) my folks and I worked SCCA races. I sat through a lot of driver schools. Once I realized that my heroes (Donohue, Rodriguez,Bonnier, Revson, Siffert, McLaren, Fangio, Levegh and countless others) died racing at the top of their game. I realized that my ability as a driver was way sub par. I only saw 2 die, David Pearl t-boned in a formula car at Daytona turn 4 and a Colombian driver at Sebring who failed to tighten his belts and when his Porsche went sideways and rolled on straight 8 his head was crushed between the door frame and the pavement. Gruesome. Almost everyone overestimates their driving skills. I have a photo of Marauder Boi's car pinned above my PC to remind me that (my) lack of experience and judgement can be fatal. With age comes wisdom, the wisdom that speed kills. End of lecture. Speed belongs on the track, not the street.
Please ignore this post if it doesn't apply to you, you're a better driver than I'll ever be and my dead heroes.

[Juice]

I daily drive mine because I love driving it. I'm not going to spend most of my time behind the wheel in some piece of crap when I could be enjoying every minute of it. If somebody runs into me, so be it. I'll get something else and move on.

I think cars should be driven, not kept in garages their whole life. If you want to collect something, collect stamps.

My .02

[Mac-MerC]

I daily drive mine because I love driving it. I'm not going to spend most of my time behind the wheel in some piece of crap when I could be enjoying every minute of it. If somebody runs into me, so be it. I'll get something else and move on.

I think cars should be driven, not kept in garages their whole life. If you want to collect something, collect stamps.

My .02

Your and awesome dude, i agree with this 1,000,000,000,000,000%
signature worthy

[WI Fordguy]

^+3. They aren't one of a kind, they were limited production (mostly due to poor sales). They have 4 wheels and a motor, neither of which are necessary for sitting in the garage all year. They're fun to drive....so I'll drive mine. Do what you want with yours, trying to make people feel guilty for driving their own car is pretentious at best.

[smacdiesel]

^^Why would I want my car to out live me?

[Stoneblue]

I was not trying to be "pretentious", I was only conveying a lesson that I had learned earlier in life. By all means, drive how you see fit. Still, many complain of the car's characteristics and not their ability to harness the abilities of this particular car. Yes, I have made multiple mistakes as a driver, not the least of which was shearing off a power line pole. Over the years I have learned my limits in driving and many other pursuits. The initial question was why so many get totaled? The Marauder is not like any other car, that's why I bought it. The learning curve was steep from a GM. I made mistakes, the idea is to work your way up to the limits of your car and your own. Luckily the only accident I've had (in the Marauder) so far is when an 8 year old kid on a bike ran into me, if I hadn't cranked hard to the left and flat spotted the tires, well I shudder to think of what would have happened, Tomorrow may be the day I buy the farm. If you think that I was trying to guilt you, you are wrong. I was only giving my opinion, which everyone has one (especially on this site, thank you moderators). And yes, it is a daily driver, mostly city traffic. Though I did top over 100mph the other day on the way to Cedar Key so I am certainly no angel. Yet. Peace out.

[Shaijack]

Help after reading all this I am scared to drive mine. I will sell them or crush them. In real time I drive all three of them. I do not want them wreaked but if they do get wreaked I will pull up my adult drawers and deal with it. My DTR is a daily driver. The Blue goes out once a week and Black once a month.
You can buy a $1,000,000.00 caR and some idiot will hit it. Drive them you can't take them with you. Enjoy them, pamper them and love them.

[MrBluGruv]

^+3. They aren't one of a kind, they were limited production (mostly due to poor sales).

As much as I'm not a fan of Marauder clones, I think you could probably emulate the driving feel of a Marauder if you dropped in a 4V 4.6 and did suspension work on any crown vic/grand marquis. It won't BE a Marauder, it probably won't have the wow factor that one would have on bystanders when you just drive by, but I bet it'd feel awful damn close in the driver seat driver.

The nicest thing about the Marauder though is that it's all done up in a nice, neat little street-legal package already. It's hard to beat that if you have stringent inspections where you live. :P

[Mercguy04]

We dont live in a polite society, im sorry to hear that your a leo

"The more miles you use your Marauder, the more chances you take."
Thats a Lie... every other day someone is posting pictures of totaled Marauders with 40k or so on the clock. barely broken in
We are totally off the initial question... In the end its just a car. If u drive it, drive it... If u dont want to dont. if u crash it, oh well... If u dont crash it thats good for u.

If my car gets totalled... oh well. I'll just get another one or something else. The End

It is true, you are the master of you life. How you choose to live it is entirely up to you.
I choose to be polite to everyone I meet. Even the prisoners I deal with everyday. I get more with honey than vinegar,
Even in this exchange of words with you. I try to be polite. I see no reason
to be combative with you.

As to Law enforcement, I am here to protect and serve, that includes you.
My service in the Marine Corps is another example of how I serve you and
protect your rights. Weather or not you choose to enjoy them is up to you.
My duty is to defend you and I can and will do so. Depicted your reluctances to the contrary. I will continue to do so with all due diligences.

Question, Is it all Law enforcement you dislike or is it just me?
If it all Law Enforcement, you have a problem. If it is me, I can live with
that. We can assign someone else to protect and enforce the law with
respect to you. You should know I do not serve on the local LE There are
Highly respected, hard working officers and they put there live on the line
every day. HO RAW. I serve in the United States Marshal Services. I have been there since I retired from the Military.

Now to the cars, I choose to try and keep my cars in pristine condition.
Why, because I like to show the cars. Between my wife, children and
grandchildren, I enjoy working on them and creating a work of art.
It provides me with quite time and with enjoyment. Sure I like to drive
them. But if they are all here after I have left this earth, it doesn't matter
I'm dead (No Worries). My children or grandchildren will enjoy them then.
You see the one good thing about America is we can choose what, where
and how we want to lead our lives. As law abiding citizens.

If you ever get the opportunity to serve your country in the Military, I
think you may have a change of heart in discipline, attitude, respect,
and manner of presentation to others.

Please have a safe and peaceful day.

[kernie]

As much as I'm not a fan of Marauder clones, I think you could probably emulate the driving feel of a Marauder if you dropped in a 4V 4.6 and did suspension work on any crown vic/grand marquis. It won't BE a Marauder, it probably won't have the wow factor that one would have on bystanders when you just drive by, but I bet it'd feel awful damn close in the driver seat driver.

The nicest thing about the Marauder though is that it's all done up in a nice, neat little street-legal package already. It's hard to beat that if you have stringent inspections where you live. :P



Same goes for an old chevy vega, drop a camaro engine in it and away you go, it won't BE a Camaro, but close enough!

:D

[Stoneblue]

I know some bad cops and some really good ones. The worst is my brother (forcibly retired) Like you he served 2 tours in country during Tet, came back a changed man. Left the DC Metro Police under less than honorable circumstances after 23 years, 4 wives and a 1.75 liter bottle of booze a day. The best is my neighbor, a K-9 officer. Watching him drive has taught me a lot about my driving and helped me clean up my act. He is polite to no end, you wouldn't know he's a LEO if he's not in uniform. People differ greatly, that's why we as a group rarely seem to have the same outlook on anything.
Thank you for your unique point of view, I may not always agree with it, but I do respect it, as I do most of the posts on this site. I expect people to disagree with me, after all I come from a different background. It's only my opinion, not an edict. Stay safe, we just lost a sheriff of 30 years during a traffic stop.

[Mercguy04]

My Prayers and thoughts go out to the Sheriff that lost her life in the line of duty.
They are also here for the family of this officer. It is a blow to us all who serve.
We do our best. Sometimes we loose a battle. But all is not lost. As we honor this
woman and her family, we are mindful that there is still work to be done.
We that are left behind will continue in her honor.
Many Blessing to her family, to her and all that continue to serve.
Russell

[Stoneblue]

but I know what you mean. 2 dirt bags, 19 and 22 stealing furniture from an Econolodge. Stopped on the highway. Hope they both get the needle. http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/3/9/slain_deputy_funeral

Russ

[MMBLUE]

It is true, you are the master of you life. How you choose to live it is entirely up to you.
I choose to be polite to everyone I meet. Even the prisoners I deal with everyday. I get more with honey than vinegar,
Even in this exchange of words with you. I try to be polite. I see no reason
to be combative with you.

As to Law enforcement, I am here to protect and serve, that includes you.
My service in the Marine Corps is another example of how I serve you and
protect your rights. Weather or not you choose to enjoy them is up to you.
My duty is to defend you and I can and will do so. Depicted your reluctances to the contrary. I will continue to do so with all due diligences.

Question, Is it all Law enforcement you dislike or is it just me?
If it all Law Enforcement, you have a problem. If it is me, I can live with
that. We can assign someone else to protect and enforce the law with
respect to you. You should know I do not serve on the local LE There are
Highly respected, hard working officers and they put there live on the line
every day. HO RAW. I serve in the United States Marshal Services. I have been there since I retired from the Military.

Now to the cars, I choose to try and keep my cars in pristine condition.
Why, because I like to show the cars. Between my wife, children and
grandchildren, I enjoy working on them and creating a work of art.
It provides me with quite time and with enjoyment. Sure I like to drive
them. But if they are all here after I have left this earth, it doesn't matter
I'm dead (No Worries). My children or grandchildren will enjoy them then.
You see the one good thing about America is we can choose what, where
and how we want to lead our lives. As law abiding citizens.

If you ever get the opportunity to serve your country in the Military, I
think you may have a change of heart in discipline, attitude, respect,
and manner of presentation to others.

Please have a safe and peaceful day.

The words of a true gentleman. Nicely put Russell. I couldn't of said any better myself. Truth is, you'll never know until you're in the situation yourself.;)

[Mac-MerC]

We can talk about the military and police officers offline. We were talking about totalled Marauders.

Only reason it seems like a lot of our cars get totalled is because we care... Probably doesnt seem like a lot to anyone else. If this were a Camaro, Mustang, G8; etc message board im sure we could pull up countless wrecks of our type cars. Thats the only logical reason i see... We have interest in these cars. Im sure millions of camry's get totalled a year... i really dont give a damn tho lol.

[CBT]

We can talk about the military and police officers offline. We were talking about totalled Marauders.

Only reason it seems like a lot of our cars get totalled is because we care... Probably doesnt seem like a lot to anyone else. If this were a Camaro, Mustang, G8; etc message board im sure we could pull up countless wrecks of our type cars. Thats the only logical reason i see... We have interest in these cars. Im sure millions of camry's get totalled a year... i really dont give a damn tho lol.

That's what I'm talkin' about. :beer:

[Odinson]

There's no such thing as an "accident", they are all preventable.


Not true. Much closer to the truth than people admit, but not totally true.

My most serious 3 accidents were unavoidable. Had both my Grand Marquis and my Marauder rear ended. In the Marauder guy nailed me at stop sign. In the GM, woman nailed me on line for an exit ramp on a parkway. Also had a kid in his dad's grand national pull onto my side of the road oncoming to my 67 Biscayne. In all three cases I accomplished the safest smartest manuver I could. I took the rear end crashes with the foot jammed on the brake and I maneuvered the Biscayne to hit a wall rather than an oncoming car.

In all three cases I saw them coming before they saw me. Wasn't doing anything special, illegal or unsafe. Didn't matter.

On the other hand there have been thousands of times that I saw it coming and could do something.

So usually you are right, just not always. It's just a matter or time or mileage.

BTW on a motor cycle 2 of the three were avoidable (the rear ends) simply rev into a nook. The oncoming traffic one would have been a near miss or death though. Depends on my reflexes/skill.

So maybe all accidents are avoidable on a motorcycle?

[MrBluGruv]

Same goes for an old chevy vega, drop a camaro engine in it and away you go, it won't BE a Camaro, but close enough!

:D

Yep, cause the Vega was totally built on GM's F-Body platform... :shake:

I'm not saying to drop a 4V into a Mercury Milan here, we're talking about the same chassis (and the same body even) holding the more powerful engine.

Now, if you had said something like "let's drop a 427 into this '69 Camaro that originally had a 350" or "let's put this 4.6 into this mustang that originally had a 3.8", that'd probably make more sense. But it'd also probably prove my point further, sooooooo....

[Spectragod]

Not true. Much closer to the truth than people admit, but not totally true.

My most serious 3 accidents were unavoidable. Had both my Grand Marquis and my Marauder rear ended. In the Marauder guy nailed me at stop sign. In the GM, woman nailed me on line for an exit ramp on a parkway. Also had a kid in his dad's grand national pull onto my side of the road oncoming to my 67 Biscayne. In all three cases I accomplished the safest smartest manuver I could. I took the rear end crashes with the foot jammed on the brake and I maneuvered the Biscayne to hit a wall rather than an oncoming car.

In all three cases I saw them coming before they saw me. Wasn't doing anything special, illegal or unsafe. Didn't matter.

On the other hand there have been thousands of times that I saw it coming and could do something.

So usually you are right, just not always. It's just a matter or time or mileage.

BTW on a motor cycle 2 of the three were avoidable (the rear ends) simply rev into a nook. The oncoming traffic one would have been a near miss or death though. Depends on my reflexes/skill.

So maybe all accidents are avoidable on a motorcycle?

As I said, they were all preventable, had the other driver been focused on what the task at hand was(driving), the crash would not have happened.

Sometimes others, other than yourself will have to prevent the crash.

[kernie]

Yep, cause the Vega was totally built on GM's F-Body platform... :shake:

I'm not saying to drop a 4V into a Mercury Milan here, we're talking about the same chassis (and the same body even) holding the more powerful engine.

Now, if you had said something like "let's drop a 427 into this '69 Camaro that originally had a 350" or "let's put this 4.6 into this mustang that originally had a 3.8", that'd probably make more sense. But it'd also probably prove my point further, sooooooo....

Oh i'm just pullin your chain.

[MrBluGruv]

Oh i'm just pullin your chain.

Well, trying anyways. ;) :P

[Mercguy04]

As I said, they were all preventable, had the other driver been focused on what the task at hand was(driving), the crash would not have happened.

Sometimes others, other than yourself will have to prevent the crash.

Well Put Darren.

There are some damn fool drivers out there...........

[Odinson]

[QUOTE=Mac-MerC;1157338][QUOTE=Mercguy04;1157194] There are some damn fool drivers out there, why risk your prized ride for a daily
comute.

So If you want to see the Marauder become extent than by all means drive it daily.
Some one will evenully run in to you.

If you want the Marauder to become collectable then DO NOT use it as a daily.

That is the answer. Buy a beater or two and drive them. Not your Marauder.


There's no such thing as an "accident", they are all preventable.

If you want your car to stay "nice", don't drive it. You can always repaint and fix the interior, but you can't remove the miles.

The sky could fall if I pull mine out and crush it, if that happens, well, that's why I have an agreed value insurance policy, which also limits the miles I can put on the car.

I bought mine to embarrass all the so called supercars, that is it's sole purpose in life, it does a good job of it, I have 3 DD's, so it's not an issue for me, but I get where your coming from.


As I said, they were all preventable, had the other driver been focused on what the task at hand was(driving), the crash would not have happened.

Sometimes others, other than yourself will have to prevent the crash.

Oh OK. I'm dense. Thanks for guiding me through it slowly. LOL.