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camelgrundle
03-15-2012, 11:38 PM
looking at getting a vortech kit.  however dropping 5 grand leaves me with no money for install.  so wondering how hard it is to do the fuel pump in these cars.  I am ok with tools and directions but never done pump, injectors and so on. can anyone give me words of encouragement so i buy this kit and tackle it myself. haha.
Fourth Horseman
03-16-2012, 08:57 AM
looking at getting a vortech kit.  however dropping 5 grand leaves me with no money for install.  so wondering how hard it is to do the fuel pump in these cars.  I am ok with tools and directions but never done pump, injectors and so on. can anyone give me words of encouragement so i buy this kit and tackle it myself. haha.
There is a lot to it, but none of it is particularly hard. I had concerns about the fuel pump install before I put my kit in, and it turned out to be a piece of cake. There's plenty of room on these cars to get the pump in and out without having to drop the tank. Don't get me wrong, you'll spend some time trying to figure out the best angle to slide things in and out, but it's really not a problem. I think the pump took me about 45 minutes total to extract the old pump, wire in the new one and put it back in the tank.
The rest of the kit is similarly straight forward. My recommendation would be to just take your time and don't rush anything. I think it took me three evenings after work to do the job. You could probably do it in one good solid day.
1stMerc
03-16-2012, 10:10 AM
^^^what he said^^^ i did a self install on a a Procharger, but the only thing left is swapping out the fuel pump (just too hot at the time) to crawl under there. Main thing is moving the tail pipe over enough to get clearance and no drop should be neccesary. For now i did install the boost a pump tho.
 
Just take your time, you can do it.
BODYMAN
03-16-2012, 10:25 AM
Personally I find the fuel pump to be one of the easier things. Once U get tailpipe moved far enough over it is a easy task.
Fourth Horseman
03-16-2012, 05:20 PM
Another thing I'd strongly recommend is to install a free-flowing exhaust. Headers, high flow cats and a 2.5" system are really must-have items to go along with your blower, in my opinion. I still had stock exhaust on my car when I installed my Vortech blower. While it certainly made more power than stock, I could tell that the exhaust was holding it back. After a set of Kooks headers and the rest of the exhaust being upgraded it was a night and day difference. The car runs better now and makes the power it should.
It's a lot of additional money and install effort, but it really is worth it. My $0.02.
camelgrundle
03-16-2012, 07:33 PM
Thanks for your help. I will definetly tackle it now. The exhaust will get done probably next season but just wanted to shut up the voice in my head for now with the S/C haha. I appreaciate the community on here, your all good people
1stMerc
03-16-2012, 08:00 PM
Go forth and conquer Sir Knight.
 
We are here to help if you need us.
scruff
03-16-2012, 08:50 PM
you can do it just take your time i did mine over the weekend
Marauder131
03-19-2012, 04:48 PM
looking at getting a vortech kit. however dropping 5 grand leaves me with no money for install. so wondering how hard it is to do the fuel pump in these cars. I am ok with tools and directions but never done pump, injectors and so on. can anyone give me words of encouragement so i buy this kit and tackle it myself. haha.
 
Ordering a Vortech kit is tempting fate for a variety of reasons.  I would advise to do some reading on the vendor that sells them and then decide if you want to proceed with the purchase.
May I ask who is selling this kit?  I couldn't find anything but kits for Mustangs or F-150 trucks on the Vortec web site.  Are you considering an intercooler?   I have a Novi 1200 Centrifugal S/C, self oiler, non-intercooled, and with everything cost was only $3900.00.  Install was $700.00 and tune was gratis.  HP gain was 155 HP.
 
Tuner told me the exhaust was the bottleneck to making more HP.  But as you say, that can come later. 
 
Intercoolers are expensive and since you are in New York  where the weather is not that hot in summer (110* here) do you really need an intercooler?  
 
You didn't say what your intended application will be, street only or street and occasionally track, or 50/50 street/track or road rallye?
 
May make a difference in your equipage.
 
Good luck, 
 
Pat
Fourth Horseman
03-20-2012, 01:15 PM
Ordering a Vortech kit is tempting fate for a variety of reasons.  I would advise to do some reading on the vendor that sells them and then decide if you want to proceed with the purchase.
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camelgrundle
03-22-2012, 07:44 PM
I got the DR kit. I heard the drama but don't care. Was very nice to me and process is going well. But it's the air to air and it will be mostly street use. Prolly gettin it dyno at dez . And for now high flow cats and rear cat delete also have super 44s.
Sounds good.
 
However, be aware of the clearance between the short coolant hose coming from the block and the crank pulley. It's close, and for some reason mine came in contact with the pulley and over time wore thru. I tie-strapped whole hose assembly to a frame component and all is well.
 
Ask if installation instructions are provided. Mine were based on a Mustang installation. But were adequate.
 
There are four long bolts that secure the alternator bracket (top side) that are aluminum alloy, replace those with steel bolts.
 
Also the alternator bracket (top side) sits higher and may make contact with the underhood insulator if it's thicker that stock (aftermarket).
 
There are a couple of bolts on the alternator hold down assembly (bottom side) that once installed are hidden. If they come loose will cause the belt to slip off by a rib. This should not be a problem if you use steel washers and tighten securely. 
 
Is your Vortec a self oiler? That feature is super. 
 
I'm sure DR will be glad to help, he was very helpful to me. His dyno tune netted over 400 HP
 
Don't forget to use colder plugs (copper core) gapped around .035. and if your car has 75K miles be aware that the COPS may be near the end of their life cycle, may only be the spring portion that gets loose, use OEM is my recommendation (your call). 
 
Good luck,
 
 
Pat
 
PS: check with your state about emmissions control testing, don't want to do hardware/software changes that can cause problems.  In Louisiana we don't really have emmissions testing except in one or two urban locations.
Captain Dynball
03-23-2012, 07:24 AM
May I ask who is selling this kit? I couldn't find anything but kits for Mustangs or F-150 trucks on the Vortec web site. Are you considering an intercooler? I have a Novi 1200 Centrifugal S/C, self oiler, non-intercooled, and with everything cost was only $3900.00. Install was $700.00 and tune was gratis. HP gain was 155 HP.
 
Tuner told me the exhaust was the bottleneck to making more HP. But as you say, that can come later. 
 
Intercoolers are expensive and since you are in New York where the weather is not that hot in summer (110* here) do you really need an intercooler? 
 
You didn't say what your intended application will be, street only or street and occasionally track, or 50/50 street/track or road rallye?
 
May make a difference in your equipage.
 
Good luck, 
 
Pat
 
Like he says, a Vortech kit (unless its one of the high end units) should be cheaper than that. You can get a very nice Procharger setup for $5000.
LANDY
03-23-2012, 07:58 AM
Like he says, a Vortech kit (unless its one of the high end units) should be cheaper than that. You can get a very nice Procharger setup for $5000.no one sells a Procharger kit for our cars you would have to DYI and it  would be cheaper than 5k.
camelgrundle
03-23-2012, 10:58 AM
Thanks for the info pat. Good stuff to know.
camelgrundle
03-23-2012, 10:59 AM
And yeah self oiler. And my motor has about 1500 miles on it. Hopefully don't have to break it in anymore haha.
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