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HorneDogg
04-21-2012, 11:15 PM
Hi everybody,

I have a few things i wanted to ask about to see if anyone else has had any of the similar problems. The car has 4.10s, Reinhard tune and SC kit, less than 30,000 miles, just replaced the plugs on it with NGK Iridium plugs.

First one is, I noticed that sometimes when i get down hard on the car there is a sort of growling noise, i thought it might be the SC belt but i havent heard it lately.

Second one is again when i get down hard on the throttle sometimes it seems like the tranny is slipping a little and it does like a jerking and the rpms go up and down erratically, i of course let off the gas and then everything is good.

Third thing has some of the same syptoms ecept when i hit down on it, it seems sluggish and the motor bogs and just does feel like it has 440hp like it should.

Fourth thing is the the SC doesnt ever really read boost, on occassion it does randomly and you can definately tell.

Fifth thing is that i had found a fair amount of oil in my PCV valve line going into my intercooler pipng, it is coming from the PCV valve i found out when i remove the line and oil started to drain from it onto my garage floor. Bought a replacement from autozone but the factory one has a hard plastic 90* elbow that doesnt want to come off and i dont want to force it off with a suitable replacement handy.

Any help or similar issues and remedys would be of great help.

i currently plan on replacing and modding the fuel piping to remove the plastic elbows, replacing the tensioner and belt, cleaning the MAF sensor and air filter, cleaning the TB, position sensor, egr, tranny flush at the dealership (as anyone ever used the frition modifier in their tranny that ford sells?), installing the air/oil separator on the pvc line into the intercooler piping, checking the bearings and compressor torque on the S/C, checking the fuel pressure on the fuel rail. Thats all i could think of that i wanted to do, some are not to much cost. Advise please!


Thanks,

Jamie:beer:

EMAS
04-22-2012, 12:10 AM
Not sure what to say about your problems but take the PCV valve back to the zoo and go get the correct one from Ford. Do not let them "flush" the transmission do a proper drain and fill.

Mike M
04-22-2012, 12:48 AM
Not sure what to say about your problems but take the PCV valve back to the zoo and go get the correct one from Ford. Do not let them "flush" the transmission do a proper drain and fill.

It's not a flush, it's a fluid exchange. What is wrong with that? That is more proper then draining.
Ask me how I know.

BlackJack
04-22-2012, 05:01 AM
Fluid exchange without changing the transmission filter is wasting time.

HorneDogg
04-22-2012, 05:16 AM
thats what i was thinking also. i was thinking about doing the fluid/ filter exchange and the J-Mod and the deep pan all at once. Has anyone done the fluid/ filter exchange recently? did you also drain your torque convertor? how many quarts did you use? did you allow it to drain over night or just whatever came out while the pan was off? i seen in my manual is says 12quarts of mercon V AT fluid. i have had pretty nice results adding in a substitute quart of the Lucas trans fluid. anyone else?

fastblackmerc
04-22-2012, 05:56 AM
I'd drop the tranny pan first. If there is alot of trash on the pan your looking at a rebuild. No amount of fluid therapy will bring it back.

Do you know the service history of the car?

When, if ever, was the tranny serviced?

Use Mercron V fluid... no other additives need nor are they recommended.

Use a heat gun or hair dryer to heat the fitting on the PVC... it will come right off.

RF Overlord
04-22-2012, 09:19 AM
Use Mercon V fluid... no other additives need nor are they recommended.This.


Use a heat gun or hair dryer to heat the fitting on the PVC... it will come right off.This.

A complete fluid exchange is not only beneficial, it is the process recommended in the factory service manual.

EMAS
04-22-2012, 09:32 AM
It's not a flush, it's a fluid exchange. What is wrong with that? That is more proper then draining.
Ask me how I know.

It does not work as the manufactures of the machines indicate. Take a look at the lube flow chart for the trans. The fluid does not come out of the pan and into the lines, it splits and goes different ways just after the pump. The torque converter does not have an "in" and a "out" so again you are just mixing the fluid and some of the "new" fluid being pumped in comes right back out, into the waste tank of the machine, while some of the "old" fluid stays in there. The "new" fluid in the machine is pumping back into the pan mixes with all the "old" fluid and thus also ends back up in the waste tank of the machine. So it is not really any more effective at increasing the percentage of "new" fluid in the trans than dropping the pan, unless you want to pump say 30-40 qts through the machine.

Mike M
04-22-2012, 10:25 AM
Where did you see this internal fluid flow chart?

I always drop pan and change filter, then I do a 16 qt. fluid exchange.

The fluid looks as clean as opening a bottle of fluid.

I love using a fluid exchange machine...best thing since sliced bread!

EMAS
04-22-2012, 04:48 PM
Where did you see this internal fluid flow chart?

I always drop pan and change filter, then I do a 16 qt. fluid exchange.

The fluid looks as clean as opening a bottle of fluid.

I love using a fluid exchange machine...best thing since sliced bread!

If you are going to drop the pan then yeah following it up with the fluid exchange machine isn't a bad idea and will do a pretty good job. However 9 times out of 10 if you go somewhere to have it done they don't drop the pan they just use the machine to change what amounts to a portion of the fluid and leave the debris and old filter in the pan.

I can't find a lube circuit diagram online right now but it goes something like this as do many conventional automatics.

Pan> filter> pump> where it then splits off

Pump> converter> cooler> pan, on the converter where a large percentage of the fluid resides the "in" and "out" is the same place.
Pump>lube points>pan
Pump>control system>pan

HorneDogg
04-22-2012, 09:27 PM
My car currently only has 29,940 original miles on it. One would assume that nothing has been done to the tranny since it is recommended that the service be accomplished at the 30k mark. I am planning on dropping the pan and doing a full trans fluid drain and fill. That is the way i have always done it but i have never really delt a whole lot with these style of trannys and didnt know what was better to do. During the drain and fill i am going to accomplish the following:

1. Install J-MOD
2. new filter
3. new deep pan
4. think about installing a high flow tranny cooler to boot

I have also been trying to do a little more research and troubleshooting in the case of the problems i have noticed. it seems that i could be wrong about it being the tranny slipping. i believe it might be a case of not enough fuel pressure. i watched my boost gage today and once it hit 2lbs the car felt like it was trying to pull a freaking semi trailor at WOT, backed of boost went down and car felt relieved. this has me thinking i might need to get a boost-a-pump, i still havent looked to see what setup is installed yet. I know, i know shame on me, but life just has me so busy at the moment that unfortunately i just havent had a chance. any thoughts about the problems or advice for some solutions anyone?

Mike M
04-22-2012, 11:07 PM
Check the fuel filter, remove it and blow through it. If it is clogged you wil have a hard time blowing through it. If it is clean it will be very easy to blow through.

Next you must hook a fuel gauge up and tape it to your windshield, accelerate and watch fuel pressure.

A clogged catalytic converter could cause this but with such low mileage it would be strange.

You might want to clean your mass air flow meter as well. This will cause a bog like not enough fuel. Use MAF cleaner only...not carb cleaner...brake cleaner will work ok.

HorneDogg
04-23-2012, 02:11 AM
Thanks for the advice. Tonight i was headed home on my lunch and after i started the car i noticed the idle was funny and it felt as though i have a coil going out. so looks like i can add this to my list of issues. Luckily for me i have the money but not the time, and it seems like when i have the time i dont have the money. I just try and take it one day at a time. Is there any COPs that would be a good investment in for my Marauder? I thought about getting the Granettli wires also, i wasnt before but hell i might as well just throw the good stuff on it now rather than worry about it later.