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burtreynolds
05-13-2012, 01:13 AM
LSX swapped Marauder.
Now, I know how sacrilegious this is. I took this in account before I made the decision and came to the conclusion the LSX platform offered more of what I was looking for as opposed to the Ford drivetrains. I also thought about just buying a CTSV or G8GT, but I am hopelessly and disgustingly in love with my Marauder. So, onto the build:
The build started in early April. I chose to use an LQ9 6.0 engine out of a 2002 Cadillac Escalade and a 4L80E transmission out of a 2001 work truck. I decided before I modified to fit my needs, I would complete the build (with the help of Warrior Diesel in Rogersville Missouri) in stock form and run out my 10k warranty on the engine/trans. The build started due to the motor constantly wanting to overheat which caused the engine to run only with the fuel pump turned off after being pressurized.
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1011/46out.jpg Eventually this was fixed, but I was already in the mood for a swap of some sort and realized it was time to get out of the four cam world if I wanted to stay NA and have gobs of torque.
Thus came this
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg803/scaled.php?server=803&filename=lq4outinfront.jpg&res=landing
The motor was easily mounted using Mustang Fox to LSX swap mounts and flipping the factory trans mount (modified of course). The Factory MMX driveshaft worked perfectly with a new yoke on it for the GM trans, custom AC lines and power steering were fabricated and headers for an LSX into 2nd gen camaro were utilized with a little BFH clearancing. Thus came this stage:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg4/scaled.php?server=4&filename=workingf.jpg&res=landing
And the running video
http://imageshack.us/clip/my-videos/577/8mb.mp4/
Currently I have an LSXRT 90mm intake, LS3 injectors, Racetronix Fuel Pump, EPS 228/230 .598/.600 113+4 cam, Texas Speed LS6 ported heads, Jo-Bilt 3800 converter and misc safety/longevity(boring) stuff waiting to go on. I am being held up by factory gauge wiring and might have to run a RacePak digital dash, but whatever. The car does run, drive and it does so amazingly. There are so many custom parts that went into this build to make a lot of this possible I dont even know where to start...maybe ill get the shop that helped fab/build this project chime in on the custom fab/share pictures.
I will update Monday when i get back on it.:D
EDIT: When I figure out how to fit it under the hood (hood clearance with the truck intake is BARELY there) I will be putting on a cover with a Mercury Waterfall badge inset. This is the only place ill admit its a GM engine under there...
MMBLUE
05-13-2012, 01:39 AM
Very cool. Nice write up BTW. As long as it's still a MM at heart. You and Triple Threat have something in common. Subscribing to the rest of the build. ;)
Bigdogjim
05-13-2012, 01:52 AM
8-9 years ago this would have been sacrilegious.:P
As they say "that was then, this is now!"
While I personally am not a fan of GM to Ford swaps, neverless good luck with the finnished power source.
jus4kix03MM
05-13-2012, 01:53 AM
Very cool. Nice write up BTW. As long as it's still a MM at heart. ;)
I agree totally. That thing is sick man! I love it!
bigmerc281
05-13-2012, 02:16 AM
:bows::bows:oh man im tooooo jealous of you right now.
boatmangc
05-13-2012, 03:45 AM
I hope you realize that you are now obligated to be in Commerce Ga with your MM in early November for the SSHS event.
You and Triple Threat.
Nice job.
burtreynolds
05-13-2012, 04:16 AM
Na, its not being built to be a drag car. Im sure the numbers its going to put down will be very unimpressive...
It will however be a dynoqueen and fun street car.
EDIT: Thank you for the comments though!
MMBLUE
05-13-2012, 04:37 AM
Na, its not being built to be a drag car. Im sure the numbers its going to put down will be very unimpressive...
It will however be a dynoqueen and fun street car.
EDIT: Thank you for the comments though!
Ours aren't drag cars either. We just make them run the Quarter every now and then.
BTW, it would be cool to see how she does with bow tie under the hood.
Timw286
05-13-2012, 05:45 AM
Sounds great!!
MOTOWN
05-13-2012, 06:37 AM
Looks like a lot of time and thought went into this build!
Merrill
05-13-2012, 06:48 AM
That is no different than putting a pink interior or wagon wheels.
Sorry, ruined the car.
MOTOWN
05-13-2012, 07:03 AM
That is no different than putting a pink interior or wagon wheels.
Sorry, ruined the car.
Thats your opinion, the car is nice!
jflave
05-13-2012, 07:14 AM
I like the way you think, outside the box, have fun. :)
guspech750
05-13-2012, 07:46 AM
Awesome. I really love what you have done. I have thought of an LS motor swap for a couple of years now. I'm just not that handy or patient. So on went the Eaton.
You could not have chosen a more perfect motor as far as cost, out of the box performance and supporting mods. LS motors FTW!!
Moooooooo pics!!!!!!
Sent from my iPhone
Eaton Swap + 4.10's = Wreeeeeeeeeedom!!
Ozark Marauder
05-13-2012, 08:02 AM
Na, its not being built to be a drag car. Im sure the numbers its going to put down will be very unimpressive...
It will however be a dynoqueen and fun street car.
EDIT: Thank you for the comments though!
See ya around town, or should I say your tail lights....:lol:
OZ
BUCKWHEAT
05-13-2012, 08:18 AM
how will you get license plates issued? I thought there was some whoohaa about switching engines in late model cars and passing the computer-based inspection.
martyo
05-13-2012, 08:33 AM
We did an LQ9 in Jeff's Nova. With a head and intake swap it made 450 to the tires through a manual trans.
Add some (okay, a lot of spray) and the sky is the limit!
What are you doing for electronics?
burtreynolds
05-13-2012, 10:39 AM
The car is in Springfield Missouri. There is no smog or anything and if you know an inspector they will issue you a tag. All you have to have for licensing is Inspection Sheet, Proof of Property Tax and Insurance. Pretty simple, not counting that this build DOES have cats and will pass an OBD II scan tool (california) test.
The engine runs off a standalone LSX computer with a 3 wire hookup. The marauder wiring/PCM has been integrated to turn on AC and keep all the lighting ect. I am trying to figure out gauges right now but cannot find a wiring diagram or anyhting, So I will probably build a custom gauge cluster with a Racepak and a GPS. We are looking at 425-450 NA with the combo I have. Spray might come in hand, 600 whp wouldnt be out of the question.
I dont know if you can see it in the video, but there is an aluminum LS7 block waiting for its owner to work more hours so certain things can be bought and put on it for 500 true NA hp.
That is no different than putting a pink interior or wagon wheels.
Sorry, ruined the car.
I don't think so.
Chevyguy
05-13-2012, 11:17 AM
Hmm food for thought this is..
If you use a same or newer model engine you have more of a chance to pass smog. Bigger issue is if the LSX standalone computer has any CARB cert..
Gentemen, you have seen how nearly any engine can swap into the Marauder providing you can mount it. As such this is how the BOSS 5.0 can swap. Just use the Ford Racing standalone PCM swap kit.
This LSX swap is gold, those LQ9/4 engines are plentiful and you can get an LS-2 with an aluminum block if you wish to spend more$$ and less weight. Hot rodders used to swap Flat Head Fords into cars till better stuff started to show up.
I really wanted to do a LQ9/4 swap in my Chevy till I found out I had the original engine block (not the heads /intake ) so I am building up the original 400 instead
Frankly a LSX swap may be better for a police car instead. Can get em cheap with trashed engine/trans. 03 up have the same chassis as the Marauder hmmm
justbob
05-13-2012, 12:17 PM
The wiring diagrams you seek can be easily had for a few bucks on alldata.com.
Nothing turns me off more than seeing a SBC in a 20's Ford, newer cars not quite so much, but not for me.
That being said, I will give you props for a clean install, overall exectution, and chasing your dream to be different than everyone else.
Try your best at getting the stock gauges to work. The interior would look like you started something and never finished if all you did was gauges IMHO.
Sent from my Ally using Tapatalk 2
burtreynolds
05-13-2012, 12:17 PM
Any panther can get this motor. Its like it was meant to be there. I don't have to worry about CARB cert here, and the only thing I believe we are going to be getting in the near future locally is emissions testing. The car will pass that.
I debated all the ford swaps, but I enjoy only having one cam, room on the sides of the engine and plenty of local support for the driveline (as opposed to the 4.6).
Again, Thanks for the comments!
EDIT: Weight difference as per the scale in the shop? 80 pounds. Thats with the iron block and everything loaded up with fluids. The Aluminum LS7 that is going in after this season will be about 60-80 pounds less, plus the weight is shifted back with the 4L80E.
Chevyguy
05-14-2012, 06:12 AM
Even in Mass as long as they can check the OBDII port status I would be OK. Which standalone LSX PCM are you using?
PS. What is that an Aviator upper intake/TB on your old 4V??
My comments about a Interceptor swap were only due to some not wanting to make their Marauder less original, I know with my car collection/club history it is fairly important to me, though with all the Aluminator and big bore stroker swaps this is not a widely held concern.
Also I would suspect a 79-2002 panther would make this swap harder, but not necessarily. It is harder to put a Marauder engine in a 79-2002 that much is for sure and less room for headers when running a Modular.
BeanSS
05-14-2012, 07:24 PM
Absolutely LOVE IT!!!
gonemidevil
05-18-2012, 08:11 PM
Nice swap! Did you have to send the ecm out for programming? and what was your total cost parts and labor?
Black_Noise
05-18-2012, 08:38 PM
wheres the "like" button.... I dont care if its powered by a diesel.... as long as its still a marauder and it goes like stink... then helll ya
PHHHHTT
05-18-2012, 10:29 PM
Congrats to the OP for following thru and getting it done. Just so it's what you want is all that matters.
(Don't mean to hi-jack the thread, but while on the subject of engine swaps....)
I work part-time at a local Auto-Zone and one of the guys just put a SBC 400 in a former patrol unit 98 CV. Fired up the engine for the first time this week. Sounds mean, we have been picking on each other about running his Zombie Vic against my Trilogy MM when we get both finished.
With all the non-modular engine swaps that been done to 03-04 MM's, does anyone know if a 429/460 (Thunder Jet, Cobra-Jet or Boss) has ever been installed in a 03-04 MM? Jus' wonderin'.........
LANDY
05-19-2012, 04:23 AM
How did I miss this! Great job, the great thing about these engines is that all you need is arp rod bolts and head studs. Then you can spray your life away to 800hp.
breeze
05-19-2012, 05:36 AM
I never thought this was possible. I'd LOVE to have a LSX in the Marauder. If I had the knowledge to do so myself I'd pull the trigger, good job!
HiHoSilver
05-19-2012, 08:02 AM
Nice swap! Those iron block LQ9's can handle some BOOST!
dohc324ci
05-19-2012, 08:22 AM
Wow missed this thread...reminds me of a 5.0 powered camaro. Unique for sure. What did this setup end up making to the wheels?
NXSBOB
05-19-2012, 08:34 AM
That is no different than putting a pink interior or wagon wheels.
Sorry, ruined the car.
I AGREE! Plus, why is putting a Government bailout GM old style pushrod/spark plug wire engine an upgrade? :confused:
GreekGod
05-20-2012, 10:27 AM
I would personally prefer to see "... a pink interior or wagon wheels", or a 500 Cadillac - or big block Buick. I do admire the engineering involved.
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MrBluGruv
05-20-2012, 12:32 PM
I AGREE! Plus, why is putting a Government bailout GM old style pushrod/spark plug wire engine an upgrade? :confused:
Probably because even that truck motor makes more HP and TQ with a broader power and torque band than the motor that came with the car factory?
If not that, a head/cam swap, which is cheap enough to be a crime, puts it on an entirely new level altogether....
SideshowBob
05-21-2012, 11:30 AM
Desecrating a Marauder with a Chevy engine makes me want to throw up. I'd rather have the pink interior and wagon wheels.
yjmud
05-21-2012, 11:39 AM
why would you ever want an engine that has far more potential than a mod motor?
Marauder131
05-21-2012, 12:06 PM
Desecrating a Marauder with a Chevy engine makes me want to throw up. I'd rather have the pink interior and wagon wheels.
X2, I don't get it either.
burtreynolds
05-22-2012, 05:01 PM
Sorry guys, went to another shop to tie up the swap, so not 100 percent yet. Reprogramming you will need because of vats. I really am sad to see my 4.6 go but I do feel the 6.0 will be a better fit with my wants and wallet. Currently getting the h/c installed as well as a "sleeper" truck manifold. Dyno/street tune before panther nationals, so numbers will be coming. Looking for 400 or close n/a. Bottle hopefully will put me at 500 to the wheels on a motor/trans built for war.
Total cost involved for me was around 7k...but that's basically paying twice for some things, brake and suspension mods to support it, super clean install. Someone could do a basic install if they plan it for sub 3k and be where I'm at or beyond if they do their own install/work.
Ozark Marauder
05-23-2012, 10:46 AM
Glad to hear you'll have it done before the Panther Nationals...:D I'm going down there on Saturday and hang in the parking lot.
OZ
mgmsleeper
05-23-2012, 07:20 PM
Your car your money modding is to the taste of the owner and this is NICE!! 400rwhp all motor ...500 with spray. This is something I will consider when my motor goes
burtreynolds
05-23-2012, 08:49 PM
I would have never considered this, except I was continually having problems with the operation of the motor. Motor/trans ended up being fine but for how long?
You can't argue with 400 hp, torque curve as fat as the marauders butt and an owner who has no regard for resale. As long as its American, I can buy parts/get work done by Americans and has hot, nasty speed like America...I feel downright proud and patriotic with the swap...(turning off red,white and blue soapbox now)
mgmsleeper
05-23-2012, 09:59 PM
I would have never considered this, except I was continually having problems with the operation of the motor. Motor/trans ended up being fine but for how long?
You can't argue with 400 hp, torque curve as fat as the marauders butt and an owner who has no regard for resale. As long as its American, I can buy parts/get work done by Americans and has hot, nasty speed like America...I feel downright proud and patriotic with the swap...(turning off red,white and blue soapbox now)
Couldn't agree more. Just post vids of the car in action if you will.
burtreynolds
05-24-2012, 02:18 AM
Glad to hear you'll have it done before the Panther Nationals...:D I'm going down there on Saturday and hang in the parking lot.
OZ
I'll see ya there! May be "dash less":puke:
mgmsleeper
06-11-2012, 09:56 AM
Any updates?
Vortech347
06-11-2012, 02:46 PM
#1. These cars aren't that special, there is 11 THOUSAND of the things out there, "ruining the car" is a stupid ass post. Doing this in a Cobra R? yes...in that case you'd be an idiot.
#2. I love these cars, and I love mine. But the fact is, a 4.6L DOHC N/A makes jack **** for torque compared to a 6.0L pushrod. Had we been blessed with a tuned down eaton setup from the factory? Maybe things could be differently said.
#3. At least he didn't do a f'n 2JZ. Its still american muscle.
burtreynolds
06-15-2012, 01:38 PM
I thought about 2jz...
It's done and getting detailed right now in the ol garage for panther nationals show tomorrow. Sounds like a race boat now.
magindat
06-15-2012, 01:44 PM
I would have never considered this, except I was continually having problems with the operation of the motor. Motor/trans ended up being fine but for how long?
You can't argue with 400 hp, torque curve as fat as the marauders butt and an owner who has no regard for resale. As long as its American, I can buy parts/get work done by Americans and has hot, nasty speed like America...I feel downright proud and patriotic with the swap...(turning off red,white and blue soapbox now)
I do like the ricerless approach.
clintons4
06-18-2012, 05:47 PM
Built Ford tough with Chevy stuff! Love it. I know some on here can't see past Ford. I have an nearly stock LS1 Camaro and it is much faster than my MM with 4.10's.
prchrman
06-19-2012, 07:16 AM
not a fan.
ReefBlueCoupe
07-27-2012, 12:53 PM
Awesome swap!
When you consider the cost involved with supercharging/turbocharging or the pointless and ridiculously expensive endeavor of trying to make big N/A power with a 4.6 DOHC, an LSx swap is the only logical solution. Brand loyal people who think you've ruined the car are welcome to their opinion. They will be the ones left with an empty bank account while staring at your taillights ;)
Any updates? Do you have the factory gauges/cruise control working? What about the shifter situation, how did you handle that?
GreekGod
07-28-2012, 04:52 AM
Awesome swap!
When you consider the cost involved with supercharging/turbocharging or the pointless and ridiculously expensive endeavor of trying to make big N/A power with a 4.6 DOHC, an LSx swap is the only logical solution. Brand loyal people who think you've ruined the car are welcome to their opinion. They will be the ones left with an empty bank account while staring at your taillights ;)
Any updates? Do you have the factory gauges/cruise control working? What about the shifter situation, how did you handle that?
And an LSX swap is logical? This project would leave most people with an empty bank account. "Logic" says a stroked 460 with a carburetor, C6, NASCAR full floater, and a Gear Vendors Overdrive.
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dohc324ci
07-28-2012, 09:51 AM
This is an option to consider since NA power out of a modular costs$$$ having said that 370ftlb of tourque out of the boss50 stroker feels great! I am waiting for someone to do a Coyote swap that would be interesting to see the results.
You can find LQ4/9s really cheap put a GM perf hot cam/intake and even stroke it to 408ci. Lots of fbody guys and 1st gen camaro guys going this route.
Keep us in the loop interested to see what you make incomparison to a mod BBS.
ReefBlueCoupe
07-28-2012, 11:19 AM
And an LSX swap is logical? This project would leave most people with an empty bank account. "Logic" says a stroked 460 with a carburetor, C6, NASCAR full floater, and a Gear Vendors Overdrive.
Well I can't tell if you're serious or not due to the ridiculousness of that parts list. If you are kidding, then lol. If not:
I fixed your screaming-for-attention font.
Anyway, when is the last time you priced LS engines? The OP's swap parts can be had for under $2k. The combination you listed would cost around $5k minimum for just the engine components, and that's being conservative. Also, its 2012. Who uses a 40 year old, horsepower sucking C6 transmission anymore? Not to mention trying to fit all that old crap into a Panther. 385 series engines are past it, man. It's time to get with everyone else in the current day and time.
LS engines are the way of the future (and the present for that matter) for any swap project. They're cheap, plentiful, horsepower per dollar goes a LONG way, efficient, light, and have huge aftermarket support for whatever vehicle you want to put them in.
GreekGod
07-28-2012, 06:27 PM
Well I can't tell if you're serious or not due to the ridiculousness of that parts list. If you are kidding, then lol. If not:
I fixed your screaming-for-attention font.
Anyway, when is the last time you priced LS engines? The OP's swap parts can be had for under $2k. The combination you listed would cost around $5k minimum for just the engine components, and that's being conservative. Also, its 2012. Who uses a 40 year old, horsepower sucking C6 transmission anymore? Not to mention trying to fit all that old crap into a Panther. 385 series engines are past it, man. It's time to get with everyone else in the current day and time.
LS engines are the way of the future (and the present for that matter) for any swap project. They're cheap, plentiful, horsepower per dollar goes a LONG way, efficient, light, and have huge aftermarket support for whatever vehicle you want to put them in.
When is the last time you priced a 460? I am getting one for $300, complete. 514 cu in stroker kit with a modest build & 500+ #ft torque for under $5K with machining. The 385 is smaller than a Mod DOHC. Most of the FE & 385 guys use a C6 Auto. Ever see a 514 powered Town Car or mud-bogger F250?
I won't bother to fix your girly-man font.
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Curless
07-28-2012, 06:31 PM
I have to admit, I like the thought of keeping a Ford a Ford and a Chevy and Chevy...but the whole non - compatibility that Ford builds into their engine lines pisses me off. They make me want to punch them in the face! LS style engines are by far the best bang for the buck currently, hopefully, with the new Coyote engine line Ford will keep them interchange friendly!
massacre
07-29-2012, 12:51 AM
Good for you for going down a path that most have not.
Chevyguy
07-29-2012, 05:34 AM
Fast is the bottom line.
bigcowl-imp
07-29-2012, 07:10 AM
When is the last time you priced a 460? I am getting one for $300, complete. 514 cu in stroker kit with a modest build & 500+ #ft torque for under $5K with machining. The 385 is smaller than a Mod DOHC. Most of the FE & 385 guys use a C6 Auto. Ever see a 514 powered Town Car or mud-bogger F250?
I won't bother to fix your girly-man font.
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I went 9.61@141 on motor with a stockish LS motor and thats useing the stock factory crank, factory rods and untouched LS7 heads and a hydrolic roller cam with a carburater on pump gas..........u need to see the lite............put a 514ci motor in a notchback and go what 10.50 on race gas with a solid roller cam ???
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigcowl-imp/freshpaint009.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigcowl-imp/My%20stang/2LS7intakes017.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigcowl-imp/My%20stang/Finishednotch001.jpg
GreekGod
07-29-2012, 08:28 AM
I went 9.61@141 on motor with a stockish LS motor and thats useing the stock factory crank, factory rods and untouched LS7 heads and a hydrolic roller cam with a carburater on pump gas..........u need to see the lite............put a 514ci motor in a notchback and go what 10.50 on race gas with a solid roller cam ???
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigcowl-imp/freshpaint009.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigcowl-imp/My%20stang/2LS7intakes017.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigcowl-imp/My%20stang/Finishednotch001.jpg
Nice!!! There was a GM Diesel powered Mustang at Martin US131 2 years ago - very fast! A front distributor works for me!
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dohc324ci
07-29-2012, 12:46 PM
There is a reason the vast majority of power plants in SEMA shows are LSx powered!
http://www.lsxtv.com/tech-stories/engine/junkyard-ls-engine-builds-going-from-rags-to-riches/
The budget minded should look at the LQ4s iron block been known to support 1200-1500HP.
ReefBlueCoupe
07-29-2012, 07:51 PM
I went 9.61@141 on motor with a stockish LS motor and thats useing the stock factory crank, factory rods and untouched LS7 heads and a hydrolic roller cam with a carburater on pump gas..........u need to see the lite............put a 514ci motor in a notchback and go what 10.50 on race gas with a solid roller cam ???
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigcowl-imp/freshpaint009.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigcowl-imp/My%20stang/2LS7intakes017.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigcowl-imp/My%20stang/Finishednotch001.jpg
A few years down the road I plan on building a more radical fox body like yours in addition to my current coupe which will be a little more tame. Your car is beautiful.
bigcowl-imp
07-30-2012, 07:20 PM
There is a reason the vast majority of power plants in SEMA shows are LSx powered!
http://www.lsxtv.com/tech-stories/engine/junkyard-ls-engine-builds-going-from-rags-to-riches/
The budget minded should look at the LQ4s iron block been known to support 1200-1500HP.
Thanks for the link.....thats a good one...
bigcowl-imp
07-30-2012, 08:09 PM
A few years down the road I plan on building a more radical fox body like yours in addition to my current coupe which will be a little more tame. Your car is beautiful.
Thank you......it was a fun project and i learned that a fox Mustang is the cheapest hot rod that you can biuld and go fast..........I sold it a little over a year ago and the new owner emailed me about a month ago and said he put a 100 shot on it and its now going 8.90`s.........
I got bored i few month ago with nothing to do so i bought another roller for my LS3 motor........
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigcowl-imp/Strewberry%20notch/DSC01277.jpg
burtreynolds
08-03-2012, 03:47 AM
Wow, kinda left the thread hanging, sorry guys. Ms Jackson steamed to a 13.1@103 on motor and a 11.98@115 on 125 wet shot. Then she proceeded to spin a rod bearing and is getting a fresh forged 5.3/s480 on her. Working up cold side piping, tuning on e85 and she will make her appearance at tx2k13.
ReefBlueCoupe
10-22-2012, 08:28 AM
Killer!!
What would you say the biggest hangup of this swap has been?
Are you able to keep the factory shifter?
What about the factory gauge cluster, does that work properly?
Cruise?
Any K-member/bellhousing/transmission fitment problems?
Exhaust clearance?
Did you have to extend any wiring harnesses to reach further because of the car's size?
Vortech347
10-22-2012, 09:59 AM
Very cool.
ajdereicup
10-22-2012, 05:11 PM
Sweet. Now you need to add a turbo or blower to the new engine;)
ReefBlueCoupe
10-25-2012, 08:19 AM
Killer!!
What would you say the biggest hangup of this swap has been?
Are you able to keep the factory shifter?
What about the factory gauge cluster, does that work properly?
Cruise?
Any K-member/bellhousing/transmission fitment problems?
Exhaust clearance?
Did you have to extend any wiring harnesses to reach further because of the car's size?
Talk to me Goose :(
burtreynolds
11-23-2012, 01:01 AM
Killer!!
What would you say the biggest hangup of this swap has been?
Are you able to keep the factory shifter?
What about the factory gauge cluster, does that work properly?
Cruise?
Any K-member/bellhousing/transmission fitment problems?
Exhaust clearance?
Did you have to extend any wiring harnesses to reach further because of the car's size?
The factory shifter, driveshaft and stock tranny member/k member worked perfect (trans member needed flipped and modded a little for 4l80e). Gauges would have worked but I used an incompetent shop.
Car went a best of 11.10@107(on the brakes due to engine failure) on a replacement junkyard lq4 (when our 5.3 went to a cobra kit car) with Texas speed ls6 heads and v2 camshaft (plus a 200 shot). Engine failure was not due to nitrous as it was due to a bent pushrod scaring me into a rod knock fear. Ms Jackson is currently stripped down and getting prepped for 10.5 radial racing. Look forward to a bigger cube lsx based nitrous motor, glide and 9 inch out back. I have told my chassis guy it must keep stock looking interior and all 4 doors functional, other than that go nuts. We are hoping to campaign in MAKO 10.5 Real Street as there is no
Cube inch limits for small block and the car will be overweight as it is so we will be able to throw whatever we want at it. Thanks for the comments and criticism, we all realize it's a half-breed...but so is Jessica Alba, and we can all agree she is freaking hot.
Sorry for leaving you all hanging on this, I spend most of my time at Ls1tech.com these days, but you can still reach me at my e-mail Jjones9075@gmail.com or you can call or text 417-569-4889. I'm up 24/7 it seems like with work and race cars haha!
71cyclone
11-23-2012, 09:49 PM
8-9 years ago this would have been sacrilegious.:P
As they say "that was then, this is now!"
While I personally am not a fan of GM to Ford swaps, neverless good luck with the finnished power source.
A large percentage of the automotive 'Hot Rodders' go with Chevrolet [Bow tie Crew] for ease of Construction and Finances ."" OH "" Also parts availability and interchangeability is a definitely a plus. For example ,look at all the 32 Fords with Chevy drive train. Well once again History repeat's IT SELF .I am impressed with this set up in Your MM . The LS series engine is a good move.:burnout::burnout:
burtreynolds
11-23-2012, 11:12 PM
The funny thing is the LS in its construction shares so much with a Windsor motor it's not even funny. The old SBC vs SBF, ect gripe is getting old. People realize GM hit the nail on the head with their motors, Ford with the chassis/rears and glides/turbohydromatics and tremecs are the tried and true way to go fast. I respect the hell out of people who play with mods and windsors as well as mopar/ import/ect... But I'm only interested in being different in my chassis choice, because that's what the car really is.
BIGSHUNN
06-01-2013, 11:03 AM
Come on! Put the video back up. More videos with details. Thanks!
MrBluGruv
06-01-2013, 11:20 AM
I talk to the OP on rare occasions and am connected to him on FB. I've gotten the impression that the MM is no longer in his possession and that he's moved on to a 4th-gen F-Body. I could be wrong though, so don't take my word as gospel, I don't aim to speak for him.
I did download the videos that you're asking about in this and his other thread when they were still up though, and I could probably re-upload them or send them to you if he's cool with it.
TAKEDOWN
06-01-2013, 02:22 PM
It is what it is...
BAD TO THE BONE!
BIGSHUNN
06-03-2013, 09:00 AM
I talk to the OP on rare occasions and am connected to him on FB. I've gotten the impression that the MM is no longer in his possession and that he's moved on to a 4th-gen F-Body. I could be wrong though, so don't take my word as gospel, I don't aim to speak for him.
I did download the videos that you're asking about in this and his other thread when they were still up though, and I could probably re-upload them or send them to you if he's cool with it.
OK! Cool! Thanks a lot for that bro!:up:
Baaad GN
06-03-2013, 10:18 AM
Please Lord forgive him as he has lost all respect from Ford Motor company!
GreekGod
06-03-2013, 10:20 AM
Please Lord forgive him as he has lost all respect from Ford Motor company!
This has risen to the level of a mortal sin.
burtreynolds
06-03-2013, 05:00 PM
Hey guys, sorry for the long time away. The MM is still with me, but collects dust as it is a slow project to go to a 8.5 tire race car with "full" interior, small block (lsx) and just live on a track. I love the responses, positive and negative, and thanks to all those who have messaged me about the car. Yes it was a bad mamma jamma, yes it had torque for days, no it was t smooth and no I never got factory gauges perfect in it. Honestly, the LS transplant was just what the doctor ordered in the idea of a "Muscle Car." If you feel old and don't want to screw up your resale or smooth ride, do not do this swap. I personally just wanted to have fun with the car, as its DOHC motor was just too...smooth. Again, swap is not for everyone, but will give the most smiles per mile/ dollar that I could find (especially when your big black cop car lookin thing pulls up to the light with a big lumpy cam popping off and everyone at the intersection looks at you with those "I'm confused" looks :-D)
RacerX
06-03-2013, 06:31 PM
It's your baby and no one elses. If you're happy, the end. Now go beat the snot outa that wicked pissah beast and get some more video. :beer:
Byron
11-14-2014, 05:48 PM
Hi, I'm about to do the exact swap that you did on my '03 Marauder. Do you have a detailed list of everything that this swap required? I pretty much get it, it's just that I'd like to be prepared in advance for any unforeseen issues. Thanks in advance. And, great job!
Too bad it was all done by selling people bad parts.
fastblackmerc
11-14-2014, 06:28 PM
Too bad it was all done by selling people bad parts.
Do tell..........
Hmm. Long story. I'll give the short version. I bought a "perfect" center console off him that gets shipped to someone across the country and I receive the other persons parts. We contact each other with Burt here agreeing to repay us to ship the stuff to the correct person. So we finally receive our parts after spending a lot of money to ship to one another. He was unpleased with his parts as was I. Most of the tabs were broke off and the bucket was worse than mine. We both tried contacting Burt newmerouse times and just got dead air. The other person filed a claim on PayPal and got some of his money back. I just got the shaft both for my "perfect" console and on the shipping to the other person. So in my eyes. This guy can suck one...
chief455
11-18-2014, 08:29 PM
we all realize it's a half-breed...but so is Jessica Alba, and we can all agree she is freaking hot.
I got this truth from reading 6 pages.
Fastbob
11-19-2014, 05:24 AM
LSX motor in a Marauder.....MEH
sailsmen
11-19-2014, 09:30 AM
Hmm. Long story. I'll give the short version. I bought a "perfect" center console off him that gets shipped to someone across the country and I receive the other persons parts. We contact each other with Burt here agreeing to repay us to ship the stuff to the correct person. So we finally receive our parts after spending a lot of money to ship to one another. He was unpleased with his parts as was I. Most of the tabs were broke off and the bucket was worse than mine. We both tried contacting Burt newmerouse times and just got dead air. The other person filed a claim on PayPal and got some of his money back. I just got the shaft both for my "perfect" console and on the shipping to the other person. So in my eyes. This guy can suck one...
Looking at his for sale thread it appears you are not alone.:confused:
Nope. Since then I have had a few people confront me with problems they have had.
Byron
11-21-2014, 06:15 PM
Hi, do you mind if I pick your brain regarding this swap? I have an 03 Marauder. I just picked up a 6.0 from an 04 Yukon Denali. I want to do something quite similar to what you've done. Great job btw.
FYI this car was wrecked long ago and dismantled.
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