4.10s going on Tuesday!!!

[IwantmyMMnow!]

I'm soooo frickin' stoked right now!!! After waiting for over a year to have this done, it's only DAYS away from happening!

Went back to shop earlier today (the place where I got my tires) with my new 4.10 gear set (thanks again HD4!) and talked one-on-one with the head mechanic to get a feel for this place...just straight, no BS, respectful conversation with the guy. No price-haggle on my part; I just plainly told him, "I've got the money now to get this done, but I don't have the money to get it done again."

We probably chatted for almost an hour, and there was nothing he said that threw up any red flags in my mind.

I don't think I'm going to get any sleep between now and next Tuesday. :banana2:

WOOOHOOO!!!! :burnout: :burnout: :burnout:

[PonyUP]

That's awesome Kyle, very happy for you


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[tbone]

You will LOVE them!

[IwantmyMMnow!]

That's awesome Kyle, very happy for you


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Thanks, Brad. I've been scouring the forums to get a 'things to do after you have 4.10s installed' list...I've got a tune loaded on my hand-held (thanks Russ!) at the ready...


You will LOVE them!

Thanks, tbone....I've been reading/hearing that for over a year now... ;)

[slickster]

Let me know how much your bill was at the end and what was done. I'm wondering if it will cost $500

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Let me know how much your bill was at the end and what was done. I'm wondering if it will cost $500

Will do...so far, I've spent $140 on the gear set and the plan is to have my diff rebuilt along with the gear install...will know the bottom line by Tuesday afternoon/evening...don't want to throw out any quotes as they are just that...quotes.

I plan on taking pics during the install as well...

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Okay....trying to make my list of things to do after I get them installed...having trouble focusing because I'm pinging like a mo-fo...I've called my friends to tell them about it and have smoked 4 cigarettes in the past hour alone...I feel like I just drank 2 pots of coffee and could run the entire length of the Blue Ridge Parkway right now....and rebuild every bridge on it.

This is what I've got:

Tune for 4.10s...check
Speedo will be off...will this be corrected with tune?
Extra cash set aside for gas...heavy right foot will commence Tues
Extra cash set aside for tires....see above
Clean pair of underwear in glove box...to change into after the first time I WOT.

But seriously, what else do I need to prep for/think about? TIA...:burnout:

[justbob]

Wow. Never seen someone so happy? :) I actually had my 4:30's laying around for so long I forgot about them a few times LOL

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[PonyUP]

Okay....trying to make my list of things to do after I get them installed...having trouble focusing because I'm pinging like a mo-fo...I've called my friends to tell them about it and have smoked 4 cigarettes in the past hour alone...I feel like I just drank 2 pots of coffee and could run the entire length of the Blue Ridge Parkway right now....and rebuild every bridge on it.

This is what I've got:

Tune for 4.10s...check
Speedo will be off...will this be corrected with tune?
Extra cash set aside for gas...heavy right foot will commence Tues
Extra cash set aside for tires....see above
Clean pair of underwear in glove box...to change into after the first time I WOT.

But seriously, what else do I need to prep for/think about? TIA...:burnout:

Don't worry about the gas, the difference will be negligible.

If you have a 410 tune, that should solve the speedo

Keep the underwear, you'll need it if you do a burnout in bikinis parking lot, or do I've heard

Start saving for headers and a blower for once you feel the difference with 410s you will only want to do more


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[IwantmyMMnow!]

Wow. Never seen someone so happy? :)
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You have no idea....this is what's going on in my brain right now:

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elrjhdughdounbsexsdfosadivnel; jskatet;ljdthf;alsdhoeuacfjksv knsakdfjgna;sduhfgo;asudhgsckl vgnjs;adklhas

[MOTOWN]

Your going to love the 4:10s its the way Ford should have done it from day one!

[fastblackmerc]

Your going to love the 4:10s its the way Ford should have done it from day one!

According to the "Father of the Marauder", Steve Babcock, 4.10's were supposed to be in the Marauder. The bean counters had final say, so we got 3.55's instead.

[MMG1989]

Mines are getting installed soon also and i cant wait either cause i have a race set up soon as my car gets done with a police inceptor crown vic with police chip

[bugsyc]

I'm waiting on how your install goes...I hope everything works out great so that I can use the same shop to put mine in...This is the first mention of a shop close enough for me to use....How long he keeps the car,cost and silence of rear end are some points I'd like to know....good luck...bugsy....:D

[fastblackmerc]

I'm waiting on how your install goes...I hope everything works out great so that I can use the same shop to put mine in...This is the first mention of a shop close enough for me to use....How long he keeps the car,cost and silence of rear end are some points I'd like to know....good luck...bugsy....:D

These might be closer.

The guy that installed my 4.10's is in Durham, N.C.

Checkout Fastlane Motorsports in Benson, N.C.

http://fastlanemotorsports.us/

Even closer is National Speed in Wilmington, N.C. I've never been there, but I've heard good things about them.

http://www.nationalspeedinc.com/

[tbone]

Don't accept any whining. They must adjust the backlash just right.

[fastblackmerc]

Don't accept any whining. They must adjust the backlash just right.

+1....

Any noise is UNACCEPTABLE.

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Don't accept any whining. They must adjust the backlash just right.


+1....

Any noise is UNACCEPTABLE.

The guy I talked with yesterday actually brought that up (I was at the ready to do so myself), said his 'gear man' would take the time to get it set up right so there wouldn't be any whine issues...

He's had several of his Mustangs featured in a national/popular muscle car magazine (can't remember the name of it right now).

[bugsyc]

thanks for the recommendations.FBM......those are closer to Myrtle Beach??? I don't know where Iwantmymmnow is having them done but,I assumed close to Charleston,which is 90 miles from me and I go there often...Let's ask "MM NOW" where the shop is...bugsy

[bugsyc]

The guy I talked with yesterday actually brought that up (I was at the ready to do so myself), said his 'gear man' would take the time to get it set up right so there wouldn't be any whine issues...

He's had several of his Mustangs featured in a national/popular muscle car magazine (can't remember the name of it right now).
Where are you having the rear end done???....bugsy...I thought you lived in Goosecreek SC?? MY bad....

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Where are you having the rear end done???....bugsy

I moved to Asheville, NC at beginning of year...not in CHS any more. The place I'm having it done is 15 mins from my place.

FBMs suggestions are worth looking into...choose the one he used, that way you can have FBM hook you up with some of his stuff on the same trip. ;)

[bugsyc]

I didn't know you moved from Goosecreek.My bad..I definetly would take any suggestions from FBM....Now I'm wondering Which to do 1st. the rearend or the swap....I'm thinking if I do the 410's first it will be so fast off the line,I'll wonder about putting the blower one and visa versa...I'm not going to the race track with her,just want the fastest street car in town....bugsy....:banana2:

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Supposed to have my 4.10s installed...like right now...but had to reschedule for Thursday. On Sunday, my son came down with a stomach virus...poor little guy spent most of the day either in bed or on the crapper. Yep, you guessed it...I came down with it last night....poor big guy spent most of the night either in bed or on the crapper. Had no choice but to call the shop and reschedule.

[SC Cheesehead]

Supposed to have my 4.10s installed...like right now...but had to reschedule for Thursday. On Sunday, my son came down with a stomach virus...poor little guy spent most of the day either in bed or on the crapper. Yep, you guessed it...I came down with it last night....poor big guy spent most of the night either in bed or on the crapper. Had no choice but to call the shop and reschedule.


What, no toilet at the shop? :dunno:


http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/images/smilies/_diarrhea_.gif

[IwantmyMMnow!]

What, no toilet at the shop? :dunno:


http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/images/smilies/_diarrhea_.gif

No toilet in my car...

[SC Cheesehead]

No toilet in my car...

http://snoman.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/car_potty.png

[screamn]

http://snoman.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/car_potty.png

Wow the inventions keep growing. Never saw this ^^^

Looks like it would work but gotta scrafice comfort for desperate measures.....

I guess better than looking for some tall bushes.

[IwantmyMMnow!]

http://snoman.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/car_potty.png

NOW you tell me....

[Marauderman]

Bed pans works for both sexes---used them raising my daughters in a van on trips----that would have worked as well.........................

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Bed pans works for both sexes---used them raising my daughters in a van on trips----that would have worked as well.........................

This is a side of you I haven't seen before, Tom...a very dark, creepy, scary side of you...;)

[SC Cheesehead]

This is a side of you I haven't seen before, Tom...a very dark, creepy, scary side of you...;)

Nah, seeing Tom trying to sing karaoke, now THAT'S dark, creepy, and scary...:D

[CBT]

Nah, seeing Tom trying to sing karaoke, now THAT'S dark, creepy, and scary...:D

KA-POW, BAM, ZING !!:lol:

[tbone]

http://snoman.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/car_potty.png

Just go man. Just Go.

Wow, that's really warm......

[SC Cheesehead]

Just go man. Just Go.

Wow, that's really warm......

It's leather, it'll clean up okay.... ;)

[justbob]

You need to post a new thread. Something like "4.10's going in on Tuesday, or maybe Wednesday, could be Thursday, maybe Friday, shooting for Saturday, definately Sunday, but might just be Monday!, or next week, or November sometime before the snow"

Watcha think?

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[slickster]

:lol:........

[IwantmyMMnow!]

You need to post a new thread. Something like "4.10's going in on Tuesday, or maybe Wednesday, could be Thursday, maybe Friday, shooting for Saturday, definately Sunday, but might just be Monday!, or next week, or November sometime before the snow"

Watcha think?

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Yeah, I know, like, today, nope tomorrow....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(Actually, that was pretty funny...)

[marauder21]

I also want to know how this install goes..more curious on how the gas differs from stock to the 4.10 install. But guess ill wait for tomorrow...or Friday. Next week maybe? Haha just kidding

[IwantmyMMnow!]

I also want to know how this install goes..more curious on how the gas differs from stock to the 4.10 install. But guess ill wait for tomorrow...or Friday. Next week maybe? Haha just kidding

Yeah, I'll have 'em installed by the time you get your scratches fixed up...OOOOOOoooooo!

Haha...just kidding!

Seriously though, I've heard/read that it's about a 1-2mpg drop, but it's totally dependant on driver's tendencies, I think...I've been doing extra excercises on my right leg (no, the other right leg) to build up stamina so I don't cramp up when I get HRF syndrome...

Hope you get your MM fixed up and catch the MF that dares to do such a hideous thing to such a fine automobile...

[fastblackmerc]

I also want to know how this install goes..more curious on how the gas differs from stock to the 4.10 install. But guess ill wait for tomorrow...or Friday. Next week maybe? Haha just kidding

You'll lose 1 maybe 2 mpg. More once you find out how much more fun your MM is to drive!

[marauder21]

Yeah, I'll have 'em installed by the time you get your scratches fixed up...OOOOOOoooooo!

Haha...just kidding!

Seriously though, I've heard/read that it's about a 1-2mpg drop, but it's totally dependant on driver's tendencies, I think...I've been doing extra excercises on my right leg (no, the other right leg) to build up stamina so I don't cramp up when I get HRF syndrome...

Hope you get your MM fixed up and catch the MF that dares to do such a hideous thing to such a fine automobile...

Challenge accepted. Lol your on!! Haha but yeah 1-2mpg shouldn't be quite a problem, after all we didn't buy our marauder to save gas:)
And when I do catch the MF that did such thing....imma ask "why"? And that's it. Maybe write him or her a strong worded letter.
but hey to prevent something else from happening, imma get this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee3L9BQQ4Gs&nomobile=1

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Challenge accepted. Lol your on!! Haha but yeah 1-2mpg shouldn't be quite a problem, after all we didn't buy our marauder to save gas:)
And when I do catch the MF that did such thing....imma ask "why"? And that's it. Maybe write him or her a strong worded letter.
but hey to prevent something else from happening, imma get this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee3L9BQQ4Gs&nomobile=1


Hell yeah! I had one them many years ago...had to let him go...bananas went up to 79 cents a pound and couldn't afford it any more....I guess you could say he just split....r r r....

[marauder21]

Lmfao!! Good thing he didn't go bananas when You let him go

[SID210SA]

Okay, Time to get up and get them gears in!!!

[MMcactusflower]

Great good luck with the new gears...and tune later perhaps.
This is exactly what I want to do with my '04 when funds allow.
I bet you are really enjoying your MM now for sure.
Can't wait to do mine.

[marauder21]

Its Thursday!!!!! So now the question is...how fast are you driving right now? Lol

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Its Thursday!!!!! So now the question is...how fast are you driving right now? Lol

Still have to wait a couple more hours...my appt is at 3...

[breeze]

You WILL LOVE THEM!

[SID210SA]

Still have to wait a couple more hours...my appt is at 3...

Damn...I wont be on after 3......guess I will have to wait til tomorrow

[marauder21]

Lol well as soon as you drive Your new car..let us know on Your thoughts and opinion:)

[Rockettman]

I'm awaiting the posting too.

I've wanted to do this for a long time now...but here in Toronto, it's an expensive commitment ($800 all said and done).

[crownvic05]

He should be on his way there.

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Got em on and holy s**t....

Would love to post more, but just got home and need to head out to meet friends for dinner.

Did I say holy s**t yet? HOLY S**T!

Will post pics/detals later this evening...

HOLY S**T!:burnout:

[MOTOWN]

Hmmm i wonder how he likes the gears?????:banana2::banana2:

[Comin' in Hot]

I love that it made your signature:burnout:

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Okay, ready to post pics and give details...

I apologize in advance on my crappy pics...my cell phone camera has a scratch/scuff mark on the lens, and any glare is magnified 100x because of it.

#1: My new AT 2525s
#2: Right after they popped the gear box open...ewww dark and icky...kinda like CBT's brain
#3: 3.55s sittin on the floor, to be used, nevermore
#4: Old pinion...gone in 60 seconds (well, about 10 minutes really...was pretty tight! BFH to the rescue...)
#5: Differential being rebuilt. (Got nothing clever for this one...)

Next set of pics and details on next post...

[breeze]

Told u you'd love em. Try punching the gas and see how fast you'll spin around.lol

[blackwater1311]

I love my 4.10s :D best mod every with a tune from mo's speed shop 93 lol

[fastblackmerc]

Got em on and holy s**t....

Would love to post more, but just got home and need to head out to meet friends for dinner.

Did I say holy s**t yet? HOLY S**T!

Will post pics/detals later this evening...

HOLY S**T!:burnout:

That's what everyone says after they do it.....

It's amazing that there are still people that are on the fence about going to 4.10's.

Congrats Kyle!

[blackwater1311]

that's what everyone says after they do it.....

It's amazing that there are still people that are on the fence about going to 4.10's.

Congrats kyle!

jlt intake, 4.10s,and a tune is a must for a marauder :d

[IwantmyMMnow!]

#1: Old clutch pack out, new clutch pack at the ready.
#2: Close-up of old clutches (new in background); can't really see it in pic, but mechanic said he could tell there were signs of slippage (TWSS)
#3: 4.10s in....FTW!!!!
#4: That stuff they use to see if gears are set right; lined up perfectly...DYNOMITE!

The mechanic was great. Didn't mind one bit about me taking pics or the dozen or so questions I asked him. He even took the time to explain things to me and talked TO me not DOWN at me. My axles were in good shape and he said all of my rear end components (watch it, Haggis!) were good as well.

I wouldn't have second thoughts recommending him to anyone for any kind of gear work. Jeeps, trucks, Mustangs, even dumptrucks! Have not noticed any whine.

$$$.....

I spent $140 for my 4.10 ring/pinion set. Dropped $305 today. I had my diff rebuilt in addition to the gear install. They charged me $105 for the rebuild kit, $200 for labor. Started on it at 3:15 and done at 5:45.

[SID210SA]

Wow....$750.00 for rear gear swap....I was on the fence...but thats a lot of scratch.

[Rockettman]

Not to hijack...but so here's a question.

The rpm's on the highway, everyone says that the increase in minimal. But up here in Toronto, I consistantly drive at 120km/hr (75mph) on the highway. That's the norm on the highway here.
I'm wondering if then the mileage and rpm is going into the relm of being too high? I just don't know because I don't have the 4.10s.

[fastblackmerc]

Wow....$750.00 for rear gear swap....I was on the fence...but thats a lot of scratch.

Not really considering that also included the rebuilding of the differential.

My gear swap (only the gears) was parts (I sourced the parts) + $200.00 labor.

[fastblackmerc]

Not to hijack...but so here's a question.

The rpm's on the highway, everyone says that the increase in minimal. But up here in Toronto, I consistantly drive at 120km/hr (75mph) on the highway. That's the norm on the highway here.
I'm wondering if then the mileage and rpm is going into the relm of being too high? I just don't know because I don't have the 4.10s.

I run my MM at 79mph+ on the 3 hour drive to Charlotte, N.C., or the 2 hour drive to Wilmington, N.C. from my house. I've never had any issues with the RPMs being too high. As stated many times before you'll see and increase of about 200 RPM's.

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Wow....$750.00 for rear gear swap....I was on the fence...but thats a lot of scratch.

$140 + $305 = $445

Paid $305 yesterday; $105 for rebuild kit, $200 for labor to rebuild diff and install gears.

Sorry if my numbers confused you.

I got a very good deal on the ring/pinion set; the guys at the shop said they would've charged me $250 if I had gotten it through them. I've looked at several websites on the rebuild kit and saw prices range from $99 to $115.

[breeze]

Not to hijack...but so here's a question.

The rpm's on the highway, everyone says that the increase in minimal. But up here in Toronto, I consistantly drive at 120km/hr (75mph) on the highway. That's the norm on the highway here.
I'm wondering if then the mileage and rpm is going into the relm of being too high? I just don't know because I don't have the 4.10s.


I run my MM at 79mph+ on the 3 hour drive to Charlotte, N.C., or the 2 hour drive to Wilmington, N.C. from my house. I've never had any issues with the RPMs being too high. As stated many times before you'll see and increase of about 200 RPM's.

Yeah I always go 80 mph on highway. Won't do anymore then that for a length of time for my own peice of mind.

[fastblackmerc]

Yeah I always go 80 mph on highway. Won't do anymore then that for a length of time for my own peice of mind.

Why? :dunno:

I feel more comfortable at 80 than I do at 25....

As long as your tires are good and you MM is in good shape there should be no problem.

[Comin' in Hot]

Not to hijack...but so here's a question.

The rpm's on the highway, everyone says that the increase in minimal. But up here in Toronto, I consistantly drive at 120km/hr (75mph) on the highway. That's the norm on the highway here.
I'm wondering if then the mileage and rpm is going into the relm of being too high? I just don't know because I don't have the 4.10s.

I have 4.30s and drove from San Diego to Philly at 80mph, it's not going to hurt anything, just burn more fuel.

[breeze]

Why? :dunno:

I feel more comfortable at 80 than I do at 25....

As long as your tires are good and you MM is in good shape there should be no problem.

Not worried about driving she rides smoothly at 80. I didn't know if having the rpms up to high for period of time good for motor. Wasn't sure what's too high.

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Not worried about driving she rides smoothly at 80. I didn't know if having the rpms up to high for period of time good for motor. Wasn't sure what's too high.

Over 8,000....

[CBT]

Not worried about driving she rides smoothly at 80. I didn't know if having the rpms up to high for period of time good for motor. Wasn't sure what's too high.

I cannot speak for your Marauder, but I can speak for mine. It has survived very high speeds for very long stretches of road just fine. :)

[breeze]

I cannot speak for your Marauder, but I can speak for mine. It has survived very high speeds for very long stretches of road just fine. :)

I just never tried it. She breaks it sits and I'm outta car till she's right

[justbob]

I have 4.30s and drove from San Diego to Philly at 80mph, it's not going to hurt anything, just burn more fuel.

My 4.30's only cost me 3.6 MPG at 75 MPH. 4.10's? 2.5?? No real biggie unless your car is a commuter.

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[guspech750]

I drive mine at any speed and any RPM and simply don't give a sheet on gas mileage. :burnout:

It's all about maximizing your smiles per miles.


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[Comin' in Hot]

I drive mine at any speed and any RPM and simply don't give a sheet on gas mileage. :burnout:

It's all about maximizing your smiles per miles.


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Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WhatsUpDOHC]

[QUOTE=fastblackmerc;1185222]Why? :dunno:

I feel more comfortable at 80 than I do at 25....

QUOTE]


EXACTLY. In addition, at 80+ you spend less time next to other drivers than you do at lower speeds:

Time next to other drivers gives them more time to ruin your day. :stupid:

I spend as little time next to or around other drivers as possible.


Hijack not intended - Back to our regularly scheduled "4:10 thread".


Mark

[MM2004]

Not worried about driving she rides smoothly at 80. I didn't know if having the rpms up to high for period of time good for motor. Wasn't sure what's too high.

No worries.

I cannot tell you how many hours I have driven my MM with 410's, on cruise at 80.

It will not hurt a thing, and honestly the more RPM's, the better she feels.

Look at it this way...

These overhead cam engines do not start making power till 3,000 +/- RPM's.

At 80 with 410's, I am turning around 2,600 +/- RPM's.

That's not 1/2 way to redline.

I'd roll that speed from coast to coast, and not think twice about it.

Drive it like ya' stole it!

:burnout:

Mike.

[slickster]

So question I talk to the guy who had my car before and he said he rebuild the rear end 18k miles ago so should I just get the ring and pinion?

[IwantmyMMnow!]

So question I talk to the guy who had my car before and he said he rebuild the rear end 18k miles ago so should I just get the ring and pinion?

Depends if it was done right. The guy that worked on my car told me to have the gear oil replaced after a year, which will be done with the install of your 4.10s. You can also have the mech take a look at the clutches/discs to see if there's anything unusual...it didn't appear to be too difficult a task when my guy took apart my diff...had it out and apart in 15 minutes.

To be on the safe side, you can purchase the kit from a place that accepts returns, and if you don't need it, send it back and get your $$$ back.

This is JMHO and what I can recall from what I was told during my install...

$200 for labor is what I was charged to do install...

[Loco1234]

changing from stock rear gears to 4.10's etc is a great upgraded... However it is one of the few upgrades I haven't done... I had a 31 spline detroit true trac installed. However, I kept the stock ratio....
I decided to do this due to the fact I now dyno well over 600+RWHP & TQ.
The Marauder is also daily driven in varying conditions.

I feel between the xtra power & its a daily driver... the stock ratio is good.
But for those with less than 500+rwhp &/or do not daily driver, an upgrade to 4.10's seems great. If the vehicle is for the drag.... then I'd say consider 4.30's

I have also heard of pep's using a 3.90 ratio this seems like it it isn't a big change but it is also an option... most seeem to go larger... that go BIG or GO home thing... but a 3.90 is a good comprise ratio imo