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Black&Gifted
06-03-2012, 07:03 PM
Hi,

Please forgive my ignorance, but I know nothing about alignment. My 03 300A has exceptionally bad inner edge tire wear on the left (driver's) side front tire (6k on the tire and it is basically ready for replacement :mad:). The car also pulls to the right a couple seconds after taking my hand off the steering wheel. My car is lowered via cut stock coils (3/4 coil cut delicately (i.e., took time to make sure the coil didn't heat up) by me with a cut-off wheel).

My current alignment specs are as follows:

caster -
Left: 5.5
Right: 6.0

camber -
Left: -1.0
Right: -1.1

toe -
Left: -0.05
Right: -0.05

Based on the above specs, could someone please help me understand:

1.) why am I having EXCESSIVE inner edge tire wear on the drivers side tire?

2.) why the car pulls to the right?

From searching the forums, my basic understanding is that the camber and toe measurements will affect tire wear.

The Carfixer specs located through searches state to set camber within the range of 0 to -0.3. Would setting the camber within this range eliminate (or at least significantly reduce) my driver's side inner edge tire wear?

Thank you!

EDIT: also would like to mention that the alignment flags/tabs have been removed from my car.

SC Cheesehead
06-03-2012, 07:26 PM
Align to carfixer's specs and the inside tire wear will go away.

Black_Noise
06-03-2012, 07:30 PM
because your negaitve (wears the inside) and a whole degree (-1.0) and thats the wear, the caster is almost causing a pull with the .5 difference.

but that being said you could have 2 identical cars with the same alignment specs and they act differently.

try swapping your front wheels side to side, put the rf on the lf and vis versa. see if the pull goes the other way, at least that eliminates your wheels/tires from the exquation, or it will tell you they are causing it if the pull changes direction too.

fastblackmerc
06-03-2012, 08:22 PM
Use carfixer's specs.

Black&Gifted
06-03-2012, 09:30 PM
Thank you, fellas. I appreciate the input. I will swap the front tires around tomorrow or Tuesday, and then take the car back to the shop to have them adjust the specs according to carfixer's specs.

Siege
06-04-2012, 04:31 AM
Find a shop that will let you sit in the car while they set the alignment. I only weigh 180 and the caster and camber both changed by .3-.4 with my weight in the vehicle.

I had my car aligned originally to the Carfixer specs but I began wearing the outside of the tire so I increased the negative camber to -.5 on each side. I'm also running .1 degree of total toe-in so that at speed it is as close to 0 as possible.

It's toe settings that kill tires, not camber.

fastblackmerc
06-04-2012, 04:44 AM
Thank you, fellas. I appreciate the input. I will swap the front tires around tomorrow or Tuesday, and then take the car back to the shop to have them adjust the specs according to carfixer's specs.

Some shops won't deviate from the published specs. Either find a new shop or take carfixer's specs and the explanation with you.

fastblackmerc
06-04-2012, 04:45 AM
Find a shop that will let you sit in the car while they set the alignment. I only weigh 180 and the caster and camber both changed by .3-.4 with my weight in the vehicle.

I had my car aligned originally to the Carfixer specs but I began wearing the outside of the tire so I increased the negative camber to -.5 on each side. I'm also running .1 degree of total toe-in so that at speed it is as close to 0 as possible.

It's toe settings that kill tires, not camber.

I weigh 250 and the specs didn't change when I sat in my MM.

Black&Gifted
06-07-2012, 11:39 AM
UPDATE:

had car aligned to car fixer's specs after going back and forth with the alignment shop. The guy kept saying "so you are saying I did it wrong?" Man, what a pain to calm the guy down, build his confidence back up and have him do it according to carfixer's specs. LOL

As for the pull, I swapped around the front tires and the pull to the right is still there. I've noticed something new however when paying attention to my steering wheel. Will start a new thread about it because the pull issue does not seem to be alignment related.