A different Route for Power

[blkZooM]

While strolling the svtperfomance website I came across something very interesting for us Marauder owners.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/engine-tuning-214/840274-m122-blower-terminator-can-done.html

the title on the other forums explains itself, so I'll just get down to the point in saying this would be an ideal for us MM owners we don't have to relocate the the battery and all the other stuff we would have to when doing the Eaton swap :coolman:

somethings would need to be looked into of course like clearance with the hood and a stronger internal with the power you could be at with this blower What do you guys think of this. In my opinion this is a pretty cool route to take if you wanted a bigger blower the cheaper way.

[imorb1994]

Wiper module clearance is also a problem I believe

[blkZooM]

Wiper module clearance is also a problem I believe

You have a good point. but the only way to to know for sure would be to try it. I'm contacting him (the guy who actually made the plates) to learn more and to see if this could actually work for our cars

[HiHoSilver]

Wiper module clearance is also a problem I believe

Forget the wipers! Floor it and let the wind take care of it! :burn:

[LANDY]

Number one question is would it clear the cowl?

[SC Cheesehead]

Wiper module clearance is also a problem I believe


Number one question is would it clear the cowl?

Yup, IIRC, clearance issues with the M122 on our cars.

[guspech750]

I say go for it. Something different. Make it work. Make it yours.


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[MOTOWN]

Very nice, but i doubt it would clear the cowl

[djs2000mgm]

Hey all, I don't really post here much/at all, more active on CVN (for obvious reasons). But I thought you gentlemen might appreciate this link: http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/engine-tuning-214/840274-m122-blower-terminator-can-done-3.html The M122's design is actually lower than the stock M112, unsure about wiper issues.

[boatmangc]

I almost went that route and then decided for cost vs gains I would just Posi port my Trilogy until I go TVS or Whipple, or leave it the heck alone.
Posi porting didn't really show me any gains but it did cool IATs a (little) bit and make the Trilogy louder.

I talked to the guy that builds the plates. He knows what he's doing.
If I were N/A I would go the M122 route in a heartbeat.

[jon5212]

Now I assume we would still have to get a cobra lower intake for this to work on top of the "adapter" plate?

[guspech750]

Now I assume we would still have to get a cobra lower intake for this to work on top of the "adapter" plate?

Yes sir.


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[babbage]

Found a whole kit on ebay for $1600.00 intercooler is integrated in the M122 - seems cheap, and I like the factory look (no relocate battery)

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Ford-USED-GT500-Mustang-Super-Charger-Throttle-Body-Airbox-Cooler-/00/s/MTIwMVgxNjAw/$T2eC16h,%21y0E9s2S9LjbBQBtYbf g8%21%7E%7E60_57.JPG

Ok how much is a cobra lower?
and how much is the adapter plate?

Then you'd need #39's and better pump with BAP etc.

That's it right?

Just trying to get an idea.

[SC Cheesehead]

Found a whole kit on ebay for $1600.00 intercooler is integrated in the M122 - seems cheap, and I like the factory look (no relocate battery)



Ok how much is a cobra lower?
and how much is the adapter plate?

Then you'd need #39's and better pump with BAP etc.

That's it right?

Just trying to get an idea.

Cobra lower will run you $300 - $400 (getting harder to find it seems). Other stuff (injectors, etc) will cost another $400 or so. Then you'll need to figure in the cost for hood and/or cowl mods for clearance.

[jon5212]

I wonder why if the guy is making adapter plates to fit a M122 onto the cobra lower, why not just start making cobra lower's? I'm sure there'd be a LOT of people interested in it.

[SC Cheesehead]

I wonder why if the guy is making adapter plates to fit a M122 onto the cobra lower, why not just start making cobra lower's? I'm sure there'd be a LOT of people interested in it.

The Cobra lower intake manifold is currently a casting, someone would either have to obtain (or duplicate) the foundry tooling to replicate the current design. I doubt Ford would release/sell their tooling, and if they did, they'd want some bucks for it. As far as building new tooling, given the relatively low demand (i.e. less than 1,000 peices), prolly not feasible. Depending on the tooling design, it could run from $15,000 to $40,000 for a pattern and core box, or $40K+ for die cast tooling.

Alternatively, you could try to replicate the LIM via machining out of a large aluminum billet, but there would bunches of hours of machining time per unit, don't think you could produce one for under a $1,000.

[blkZooM]

The guy knows what he's talking about, the only reason I have't gone through with it is for two reason wiper cowl and the chance I want to go bigger blower.

[jon5212]

The Cobra lower intake manifold is currently a casting, someone would either have to obtain (or duplicate) the foundry tooling to replicate the current design. I doubt Ford would release/sell their tooling, and if they did, they'd want some bucks for it. As far as building new tooling, given the relatively low demand (i.e. less than 1,000 peices), prolly not feasible. Depending on the tooling design, it could run from $15,000 to $40,000 for a pattern and core box, or $40K+ for die cast tooling.

Alternatively, you could try to replicate the LIM via machining out of a large aluminum billet, but there would bunches of hours of machining time per unit, don't think you could produce one for under a $1,000.


I'm sure if someone really wanted to, they could make their own design to bolt a blower to the 4.6 motor with a custom intake and not necessarily follow the design of Ford's LIM.

There's a guy on my duramax forum that actually has a twin screw on his duramax with a couple turbo's feeding it as well.

[SC Cheesehead]

I'm sure if someone really wanted to, they could make their own design to bolt a blower to the 4.6 motor with a custom intake and not necessarily follow the design of Ford's LIM.

There's a guy on my duramax forum that actually has a twin screw on his duramax with a couple turbo's feeding it as well.

If you're going to run a blower-mounted intercooler (i.e. Eaton design), you'll need to use a box-style lower intake manifold to house it, so I can't envision anything different than the basic Ford design that would work and still fit in our cars. But I guess another alternative would be to fab and TIG weld up one from aluminum plate, but when all was said and done, still lotsa bucks, or lotsa time and effort to design and construct. In the long run, prolly better off poking around until a used one comes up on e-Bay or C/L.

[jon5212]

^^ I definately agree, however I'm sure if someone was bored and had a tig welder with aluminum they could come up with something.

[SC Cheesehead]

^^ I definately agree, however I'm sure if someone was bored and had a tig welder with aluminum they could come up with something.

Absolutely! I think it would be a great conversation piece as well, just don't think that it would be commercially viable.