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Mr. Man
08-07-2012, 09:23 PM
So today I was futzing with the '03 and decided I should check the air pressure in the spare and as long as I was at it check for dry rot and inspect the overall condition of the tire.

So first up is to see where the air nozzle is. It turned out to be in the back and I assumed the pressure would be low as I figured no one ever checked. I tried to spin the tire in its resting area with no luck so I say to self just loosen the hold down thingy and spin it till the air nozzle thing is accessible. Yeah right! Who ever the CAW guy was who put the spare in the car must have been a steroid abuser as it took all I could to loosen the plastic hold down. There isn't much room to begin with between the tire and the trunk so getting a good grip on the hold down and enough torque to spin it was a challenge. Trying to slip my beefy arm between the spokes of the wheel to turn the plastic thing was equally difficult.

Finally after giving it all I could muster the plastic hold down moved and began to unthread. At this point I am getting pretty annoyed and sweaty as it was warm today in the Garden State and removing the spare shouldn't be such a PITA. So I loosened it up a bit and tried to unhook the J-hook that holds the tire in place, no go, loosen it up almost all the way and pull the tire forward a bit and it came free. Now I'm peeved and soaked in sweat and cursing like a sailor but I lift out the tire and inspect it. It looked brand new with no dry rot and surprisingly still had 33lbs of 2003 air.

So now to put it back. The J-hook has a specific direction it must go in as the dopey engineer who designed this ridiculous set-up realised the tire hits what I believe to be an amplifier hanging from the rear speaker deck. Trying to center the tire over the hook slot gets you nowhere. Why they didn't weld the hookinsky thing a few inches to the right is anybodies guess. There seems to be room before the trunks hinge comes into play :shake:

Realising this is an asinine set up I tried to put the tire in upside down with the air nozzle hanging into the truck area so as to not damage it and still give me access, though be it awkward. No go this way either. The J-hook doesn't have enough thread to tighten all the way down. I'm fuming at this point. :mad2:

Flip the tire back over to the way it came, point the air filler nozzle at the rear of the car and attempt to put it back in. J-Hook in the now off center position (J points to the left). I now can start to thread it down and slowly begin to center it front to back over the hookinsky thing. I was able to snug it down with just enough force to keep it steady...Done, soaked and pissed I need a beer and Ms.D has a chicken pot pie in the oven, yum, slowly calming, I puzzle over the complete lack of thought that went into this design.

The '04 mini spare is in and out in two minutes. We assume that the mini spare is there to off-set the cost of traction control but I'd bet it's there because someone at Mercury figured out their design mistake and the mini spare was the easiest way to fix it with out expensive re-design.

My advice to all of you who own a 2003 Marauder who have never experimented with the spare tire do so now while the weather is warm. If your spare is installed the same way mine was you will thank yourself for experimenting in the warm weather because when you get a flat it will be dark, snowing/raining and cold and you will have a devil of a time trying to change your flat. Remember the trunk lite isn't that bright either so if your first time trying to remove the spare is at night all I can say is good luck.

It is also a good idea to check your spares air pressure when you check the other 4. I know it is easy to forget the spare as it is out of sight but you'll kick yourself if it's flat when you need it. :)

Blackened300a
08-07-2012, 09:38 PM
If you reached under the tire there is a gap between the inside of the rim and the deck where you can reach in to grab the hold down to turn it and remove the hook. I learned that when I tried to remove it the same way you did.

Mr. Man
08-07-2012, 10:17 PM
I'll look into that in the daylight. You maybe more bendy than me ;)

tbone
08-08-2012, 02:36 AM
I've had mine out twice. No issues. I would not want a mini spare. The mini spare was added as part of the feature gutting to pay for traction control on the 04's.

RoyLPita
08-08-2012, 05:07 AM
It can be a little more difficult when there is a rear-sized tire on the spare wheel. I'm used to dealing with it.

DOOM
08-08-2012, 06:35 AM
Never had a problem with mine. You have fat fingers! :lol:

Seriously, I have had a lot of practice with all the crown Vic's and grand marquis that I have had over the years.

There is an easier way to do it.

Sorry to hear you had so much trouble. But hey at least you got a good workout! :sweat:

RF Overlord
08-08-2012, 07:10 AM
But hey at least you got a good workout! :sweat:The only time Eric gets more exercise is when he's inhaling one of Paula's chicken pot pies. :)

.......m-m-m-m-m-m...chicken pot pie.... :food:

Ms. Denmark
08-08-2012, 07:37 AM
The only time Eric gets more exercise is when he's inhaling one of Paula's chicken pot pies. :)

.......m-m-m-m-m-m...chicken pot pie.... :food: Well....actually there are plenty of OTHER times.....:cool::D

Haggis
08-08-2012, 07:40 AM
Well....actually there are plenty of OTHER times.....:cool::D

Sitting on the toilet trying to push out a duce does not count.

screamn
08-08-2012, 10:04 AM
Wow......I never knew that there was an issue with the spare tire removal with a full size.
I wanted to put a full size spare since I have an extra rim just sitting around but was waiting to change my front tires and use on of them. But now you got me thinking and pondering with all that trouble.....

I've removed my space saver in my 2004 with no issues and it was a breeze.

Also, like Jake stated, I too never had any issues with my 1999 P71 full size spare removal but it didn't have a stock amp in the way.

Good info to know and thanks for posting it up.

Comin' in Hot
08-08-2012, 10:18 AM
Eric the simpliest way I could explain it, give your spare a reach around:lol:

Ms. Denmark
08-08-2012, 12:17 PM
Yeah, he can do that....:D

DOOM
08-08-2012, 12:22 PM
Eric the simpliest way I could explain it, give your spare a reach around:lol:


Yeah, he can do that....:D

OMG!!! :eek:

LMMFAO!!! :laugh: :rofl:

fastblackmerc
08-08-2012, 12:52 PM
Wow......I never knew that there was an issue with the spare tire removal with a full size.
I wanted to put a full size spare since I have an extra rim just sitting around but was waiting to change my front tires and use on of them. But now you got me thinking and pondering with all that trouble.....

I've removed my space saver in my 2004 with no issues and it was a breeze.

Also, like Jake stated, I too never had any issues with my 1999 P71 full size spare removal but it didn't have a stock amp in the way.

Good info to know and thanks for posting it up.

I exchanged my mini spare for a full sized spare and have no problems accessing it.

DOOM
08-08-2012, 12:55 PM
I exchanged my mini spare for a full sized spare and have no problems accessing it.

Have you seen the size of this dude! :lol:

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/DOOMIE/96ff22f9.jpg

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/DOOMIE/4685a758.jpg

Haggis
08-08-2012, 01:52 PM
That's our boy Fred. :up:

Blk Mamba
08-08-2012, 03:02 PM
The jack is suppose to stow to the right of the spare, so there is no room available to move the hold down to the right, it was designed to keep the jack from rattling. In 1962 my parents bought a new Galaxie, and after several trips to the dealer about a rattle, my father told my mother he would get in the trunk, and she should drive around till he found the rattle. Little did he know that my mother had already filed for a divorce, so it was a very bumpy ride down the worst road in the county, but he did find the rattle, the jack.

Mr. Man
08-08-2012, 07:22 PM
You guys are funny. Wait til you get old, fat and out of shape, Oh wait some of you already are. :razz:

The initial problem was with the Hulk who tightened down the plastic thing to within an inch of its life. Now that I have put it back with reasonable torque I hope if I ever need to remove it again the process will be easier.

Didn't have an issue getting the jack and wrench out.

I still say it's a dopey design but you got to deal with the cards dealt. :)

Bigdogjim
08-08-2012, 08:30 PM
Two words..................road service:lol:

BUCKWHEAT
08-08-2012, 08:39 PM
If you reached under the tire there is a gap between the inside of the rim and the deck where you can reach in to grab the hold down to turn it and remove the hook. I learned that when I tried to remove it the same way you did.
What Blackened300a said. I take mine out all the time for racing. Sit in the trunk, reach under & spin (the plastic, not you) until loose enough that you can remove the rod, take out the tools. Then bring spare down into your empty trunk & lift it out.

RF Overlord
08-11-2012, 09:20 AM
YWait til you get old, fat and out of shape, Oh wait some of you already are. I resemble that remark...I'm not fat, I'm horizontally-challenged.

Haggis
08-11-2012, 09:32 AM
I resemble that remark...I'm not fat, I'm horizontally-challenged.

No, you are; "I can not see my toes" challenged.

finster101
08-11-2012, 10:49 AM
You guys are funny. Wait til you get old, fat and out of shape,



Judging by the pictures even when you were young and in shape, (I don't ever see you being skinny) you were still a good sized fella. No insults intended or implied. I have to agree the full sized spare is a pain. I mounted an amp behind mine so I have had it out a couple of times, also replaced it with a polished wheel. The problem is where else or how else could you mount it and still have trunk space.

ncmm
09-01-2012, 02:59 PM
My used '04 has a polished rim with a rear tire on it. It's upside down and secured on the passenger side deck. Fun to get out. I've got the jack stored on the driver's side shoved back and towards the spare.