12yrd + blk MM = oh, no

[Kickingwing519]

So, i attempted to teach my niece how to drive, figured she was at the right age, i remember my dad letting me drive his 65 coronet w/a bored 440 in the local cemetary, i instrucked the the brake is you safety, hit the brakes in time of panic, we she took.a corner and did real good, left over right while turing, both hands on the wheel, however she.kept turning and we found ourselved in my neboiers yard and luckly the tree was there or we would have hit is house.



Anyway, i guess I'm posting this to get suggestings. don't know if i want to call gieco and have an adjuster look at it, and leave the car with a guy i don't know for a week or two,... or buy a new fender and door. and bring it to my buddy for a new paint job, I'm thinking grabber blue w/ black strips.... it'll be a little more if i do it myself. thanks for the input.

also, is the vic doors the same as the MM?

[RubberCtyRauder]

Based on the pic, I would be looking for some front tires too, they look a little sparse to me in the tread department, Sorry for your situation.

[Hadamustang1]

Way to go Uncle dumas... Bet you wont do that again.. :coolman:.. BUt really.. Nice idea, bad out come.. Let her try it again.. heck the damage is already done now..

[martyo]

So, i attempted to teach my niece how to drive, figured she was at the right age, i remember my dad letting me drive his 65 coronet w/a bored 440 in the local cemetary, i instrucked the the brake is you safety, hit the brakes in time of panic, we she took.a corner and did real good, left over right while turing, both hands on the wheel, however she.kept turning and we found ourselved in my neboiers yard and luckly the tree was there or we would have hit is house.



Anyway, i guess I'm posting this to get suggestings. don't know if i want to call gieco and have an adjuster look at it, and leave the car with a guy i don't know for a week or two,... or buy a new fender and door. and bring it to my buddy for a new paint job, I'm thinking grabber blue w/ black strips.... it'll be a little more if i do it myself. thanks for the input.

also, is the vic doors the same as the MM?

So you want to call GEICO and ask them to pay for your allowing an underage person to drive a car with bald tires? The lawyer in me says that that is a bad idea...... There may even be a criminal aspect to doing this, but hey what do I know.

Meanwhile our body shop is in Cartersville, GA and can make that car look better than new. Let me know if you are interested.

[Hadamustang1]

Tell them it was parked and the tree side swiped you.. LOL

[Curless]

Not to be an ass, but you let a first time driver take your pride and joy for a ride??? WTF were you thinking? How about a huge open parking lot when the place is closed?

Anyways to answer your question, I would buy the parts and have them painted, instal them myself. I have never found any body shop who's employees give a **** about what they work on. They are usually not "car guys" and its only a job. I find if I do all my own work and pay big for the paint I can get the results I want.

[Raleigh Marauder]

I would think you're out of luck in getting insurance to pay for that...

[martyo]

I have never found any body shop who's employees give a **** about what they work on. They are usually not "car guys" and its only a job.

You are using the wrong shop.....

[jb513]

Take it easy on this guy. We all have memories of sitting on a phone book driving or our dads letting us drive the car in his lap while he worked the throttle. Hell I learned to drive a 125cc bike when I was 8 and I couldn't touch the ground. Mind you it was on a 5 acre field.
It sucks that his MM took the hit but it can be fixed and you both will have one hell of a story to tell for the rest of your lives. My son has learned on my MM but it was in an empty parking lot…

[jb513]

I just read his post again..12 years old?.. WTF were you thinking!! Dipshit..

[Ms. Denmark]

I don't know what to say....and it wouldn't be pretty so I'm speechless......:shake:

[martyo]

Take it easy on this guy. We all have memories of sitting on a phone book driving or our dads letting us drive the car in his lap while he worked the throttle. Hell I learned to drive a 125cc bike when I was 8 and I couldn't touch the ground. Mind you it was on a 5 acre field.
It sucks that his MM took the hit but it can be fixed and you both will have one hell of a story to tell for the rest of your lives. My son has learned on my MM but it was in an empty parking lot…


I just read his post again..12 years old?.. WTF were you thinking!! Dipshit..



You remind me of my wife. She can change her opinion in a nanosecond. :D

[yjmud]

Vic parts fit
no need to flame on this one guessing feels bad enough

[Granddaddy Marq]

We use open fields and old pickup trucks for driver training here. Alot less damage that way. Straight shift not auto, they only have to learn to drive one time that way. Sorry about your car. Bring it dents and all to breakfast on the 18th.

[Blackened300a]

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[slickster]

I just read his post again..12 years old?.. WTF were you thinking!! Dipshit..
:lol: sir im sorry for saying this but letting a 12 year old girl driving a 1 out of 8000 cars left is ahhhheww im not going to even put my mind to that right now!!!!!. dont say the girl was driving and make sure the repiar is done right take it to the best most costly place you can find. color code is ua

[Krytin]

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ROFLMAO!!
Coffee came out my nose!

[MMBLUE]

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Thanks for making me clean my computer screen :lol:

[Bluerauder]

.... figured she was at the right age

No comment. ;)

[RacerX]

Nice Paul!!! :D

Martin is right, of course he has just a smidgeon of legal knowledge here. ;) In my state, we don't require a learners permit, but, you HAVE to be 15 years and 6 months old to get behind the wheel with a licensed adult that's at least 25yo and has had their license for at least three years.

OP, you're better off deleting your post, hoping there's no witnesses and saying you got your shoelace caught in the gas pedal.

[Kickingwing519]

Thx for the input guys, its only a car, nontheless my dream car, found parts online and a backyard paintshop with booth and twelve years experince, this is my happening, my fault, my faith in the wrong twelve year old. lesson learned. a week from a mounth to maybe a year, we can look back a chuckle about this.

[Kickingwing519]

ROFLMAO!!
Coffee came out my nose!



This brought a smile to my face lmfao, then reality hit, its my marauder :alone:

[Hadamustang1]

I still say .. get her back on that horse.. before she loses her nerve.. and winds up being one of those drivers that is behind the wheel,, but not really driving just hanging on.. kinda like my ex-wife. She would go around a clover leaf on the freeway three or four times before she got the nerve to merge..

Just find a little more open spot..next time

[RacerX]

I still say .. get her back on that horse.. before she loses her nerve...
I agree!!! A horse is much safer for everyone and she'll love it!!! :lol:

[jb513]

You remind me of my wife. She can change her opinion in a nanosecond. :D
Be nice.. I'm still wanting to get an SCT with your tune!! I'm sure your wife is better looking as well.......

[martyo]

Be nice.. I'm still wanting to get an SCT with your tune!!

Let me know when you are ready.

[martyo]

Kickingwing, I sent you a message.

[Black_Noise]

that is exactly why you learn to drive on a $300 turd

[RF Overlord]

DO NOT call the insurance company...even IF they cover it, they'll drop you like a hot potato and you'll have to buy insurance from The General and his goofy penguin...

[Krytin]

This brought a smile to my face lmfao, then reality hit, its my marauder :alone:
I feel your pain. I waited until my daughter got her learner's permit then took her to a BIG parking lot EARLY in the morning for her first test drive - in the Marauder. Later on she got to run it on the "private track"!

[IwantmyMMnow!]

that is exactly why you learn to drive on a $300 turd

Skid marks included....:lol:

[slickster]

When i was 12 My dad rented a compact car for me to learn in and we would go to the mall parking lot after closing time. I also understood how a manual transmission worked at 6. But I guess that girl already had the knowledge of a truck driver

[IwantmyMMnow!]

I sure am glad there are all these 'experts' on here that have never done anything wrong in their lives chiming in with their 2 cents...

I take it if he let her drive a piece of junk and banged it up, there would be no 'issues' with that? Really? :shake:

Just because someone made a decision that you don't agree with doesn't give you the right to belittle that person and act 'holier than thou'...

[marauder410]

hahaha wow what a bad baddd decision to let a LITTLE 12yr GIRLLL at that drive a MM wowww

[Ms. Denmark]

I sure am glad there are all these 'experts' on here that have never done anything wrong in their lives chiming in with their 2 cents...

I take it if he let her drive a piece of junk and banged it up, there would be no 'issues' with that? Really? :shake:

Just because someone made a decision that you don't agree with doesn't give you the right to belittle that person and act 'holier than thou'...I think you are missing the point.....he wrecked a Marauder. You know, those fairly limited production cars with certain parts that can't easily be replaced. :bigcry: If she'd wrecked a Camry (assuming no one was hurt)......Well let's just say I think he gets it. ;)

[wannaMM]

I remember letting my 13 yr old brother "learn" in my 1962 GMC (that reads tank)...When he ran over the walk lite (Pole) in the front yard I took the fall & blamed poor braking habits....WE all make choices, some bad ,All with consequences.
35 yrs later, he's still grateful that I helped him out...(and he hasn't owned a GM product either)..:)

[Curless]

You are using the wrong shop.....


Well, I have been in the same city for 33 years. Been in business for 12, I have gone to the big money, little money, trade even up, trade + money...NO ONE has ever impressed me. I am not saying that my cars are perfect by any means, but when I am willing to pay for perfection I expect it.

P.S. Georgia is a little far to travel for paint work:bigcry:

[IwantmyMMnow!]

I think you are missing the point.....he wrecked a Marauder. You know, those fairly limited production cars with certain parts that can't easily be replaced. :bigcry: If she'd wrecked a Camry (assuming no one was hurt)......Well let's just say I think he gets it. ;)

The point is he made a decision that others wouldn't, including me. But calling him names and saying things like "Wow...what were you thinking?" serves NO purpose...what's done is done and that can't be changed. All I can say (constructively) is I'm glad only the MM got banged up...a lot worse could've happened.

It was HIS 12 y/o niece and HIS MM...just because he is willing to take more 'liberties' with his car doesn't give everyone the right to name call, etc, etc...

He posted on here for advice on what he should do to fix his car...in return he gets called dip*****, dumba$$, etc...it just didn't sit well with me.

Edit: you can go on youtube and find a bunch of videos of people driving cars they shouldn't be and wrecking them...it's not like this is the first time it's ever happened...

[Ms. Denmark]

The point is he made a decision that others wouldn't, including me. But calling him names and saying things like "Wow...what were you thinking?" serves NO purpose...what's done is done and that can't be changed. All I can say (constructively) is I'm glad only the MM got banged up...a lot worse could've happened.

It was HIS 12 y/o niece and HIS MM...just because he is willing to take more 'liberties' with his car doesn't give everyone the right to name call, etc, etc...

He posted on here for advice on what he should do to fix his car...in return he gets called dip*****, dumba$$, etc...it just didn't sit well with me. Well actually it does. Here's why. First of all, he posted up his big mistake on line, which is a big mistake IMHO. Second, negative feedback is sometimes a good learning tool and third, unlike you, he has taken all this with good grace. He seems pretty fine with the feed back, but I would respectfully suggest that you are over reacting just a teeny bit.....the dreaded holier than thou. But you do drive a SB and everyone knows that makes us a special breed so I have to cut you some slack.:cool: :D

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Well actually it does. Here's why. First of all, he posted up his big mistake on line, which is a big mistake IMHO. Second, negative feedback is sometimes a good learning tool and third, unlike you, he has taken all this with good grace. He seems pretty fine with the feed back, but I would respectfully suggest that you are over reacting just a teeny bit.....the dreaded holier than thou. But you do drive a SB and everyone knows that makes us a special breed so I have to cut you some slack.:cool: :D

Sorry, but I disagree...I'm not acting like I'm holier than thou, I'm sticking up for a fellow MMer, IMHO. I mentioned that I didn't agree with his decision, but that's all that needs to be said. Calling someone names a good learning tool? :confused: I think the guy is sharp enough to realize that his decision may not have been a good one.

You have your opinion on this matter and I have mine (as well as everyone else); there's no 'right' or 'wrong' here...we just see things differently in this case. I just felt the name-callling was a bit overboard...

[CWright]

The hardest lessons learned are those we pay for! Trust me, we've all made our mistakes.

[Kickingwing519]

Would it make a difference if i told you i was driving, and i avioded hitting the stray dog that hangs out around here? Everyone makes mistakes, i for one did when i bouhgt my MM and used it as a daily driver, some day ill own my dpb with light flint and have that be my trailer queen, but for now its just an ugly blk MM with nothing but cosmetic damage that i can find parts for. Nothing MM specific was damaged. rare car, yes, fun car, yes, soon to to be looking like a bad blk spawn again, yes. Like master sgt said, it was my choice, and I'm paying for it, lessoned learned.

[Kickingwing519]

Side note, i don't need this thread turning into a peeing match, just would like input ON the MM thanks

[CWright]

Can't wait to see how she turns out. Plus you drive the fastest color! :D

[MOTOWN]

Hope you get fixed soon, but i wouldnt advise involving your insurance company.

[justbob]

Kudos to you sir! Besides the tree how did she do? I learned at 12 also in my grandpas column shift 76 Ford F100 and PLENTY of other cars/trucks from then to 16. My drivers Ed teacher was also thankfull!


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[Kickingwing519]

Kudos to you sir! Besides the tree how did she do? I learned at 12 also in my grandpas column shift 76 Ford F100 and PLENTY of other cars/trucks from then to 16. My drivers Ed teacher was also thankfull!


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All went well, steering, accell, signels, she needs to work on the brakes, but other then that, going to bring her out again when up in MI to a church parkinglot, if she does good then we'll teaxh her burnouts,:lol: maybe not.

[justbob]

I suggest a large parking lot with a tight cone course with a break left then right and STOP or a break right then left STOP. She won't know which way she needs to steer untill the last possible second when you inform her... :) BTW she has to maintain 25-30 MPH unroll you shout which direction. This was part of my drivers Ed that really sharpened my reflexes.


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[Kickingwing519]

I suggest a large parking lot with a tight cone course with a break left then right and STOP or a break right then left STOP. She won't know which way she needs to steer unroll the last possible second when you inform her... :) BTW she has to maintain 25-30 MPH unroll you shout which direction. This was part of my drivers Ed that really sharpened my reflexes.


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Wow, what drivers ed couse did you attend? Think.i might set that up for me and have the wife shout which.direction.to go, i remember watch the msp on rhe suburbs of lansing do thier training in the good ol crown vics, I've always wanted to.do a course like that.

[IwantmyMMnow!]

The first time I got behind the wheel was in my driver's ed class in high school. A month later when I was doing the open road test, I about s hit my britches...I was on the interstate doing 57mph!!!...in a pick-up truck!!! I was sooo stressed...I was expecting a bunch of state troopers to pop up out of nowhere because I was speeding.

Needless to say, I wish I would have had a little 'experience' under my belt before Driver's Ed...at least my brother-in-law (who died 4 years later) took the time one Saturday to teach me how to drive stick shift...

[boatmangc]

It'll fix up just fine, the grabber blue? Don't do it man!

[dmjarosz]

What the quote at the end of my sig says... I don't think you'll ever forget this one!

On a bright note, it doesnt look like you damaged anything Marauder specific. Doors and quarter pannels are a dime a dozen for this body style.

On an even brighter note, its good to hear no one was hurt. Your ego on the other hand may not be feeling so good at the moment.

[MyBlackBeasts]

Age behind wheel is only relevant on public roads, on private property n/a.

I started "driving" at 4. Sitting on dad's lap in a VW Beetle. 1st trip around the subdivision in Fox River Grove IL I turned too soon & put it in the ditch instead of the driveway. Dad laughed & we pulled it out with the Rambler wgn.

I could drive stick by age 5. Was riding motorcycle around grandparents property solo at 8.

One of my favorite memories was when around 5/6 sitting on dads lap in 57 Olds trying to steer and keep it straight. Any one old enough to know the vehicle will understand that that was no easy thing to do - 100% power steering. I think Olds only ran that 1 year. You have no road feel so not east to keep straight! :eek:

[Granddaddy Marq]

The first time I got behind the wheel was in my driver's ed class in high school. A month later when I was doing the open road test, I about s hit my britches...I was on the interstate doing 57mph!!!...in a pick-up truck!!! I was sooo stressed...I was expecting a bunch of state troopers to pop up out of nowhere because I was speeding.

Needless to say, I wish I would have had a little 'experience' under my belt before Driver's Ed...at least my brother-in-law (who died 4 years later) took the time one Saturday to teach me how to drive stick shift...


You needed an uncle like Kickingwing519.

[jb513]

The point is he made a decision that others wouldn't, including me. But calling him names and saying things like "Wow...what were you thinking?" serves NO purpose...what's done is done and that can't be changed. All I can say (constructively) is I'm glad only the MM got banged up...a lot worse could've happened.

It was HIS 12 y/o niece and HIS MM...just because he is willing to take more 'liberties' with his car doesn't give everyone the right to name call, etc, etc...

He posted on here for advice on what he should do to fix his car...in return he gets called dip*****, dumba$$, etc...it just didn't sit well with me.

Edit: you can go on youtube and find a bunch of videos of people driving cars they shouldn't be and wrecking them...it's not like this is the first time it's ever happened...
Get your head out of your a#s..

[sailsmen]

Make the World a safer place. Sell the Marauder and buy a pair of sneakers.

If I were your auto insurer I would cancel you.

[Mebot]

Is your niece traumatized? You think you've scarred her for life from ever driving a car again?

[Ms. Denmark]

The first time I got behind the wheel (except sitting in the driveway listening to the stereo) was in my driver's ed class in high school. A few days later when I was doing the open road test, I was so ready to rock that I volunteered to go first...I was on the freeway doing 70mph!!!...in some sort of little 4 door commuter car. I was sooo excited...I wasn't at all concerned that a bunch of CHiPs would pop up out of nowhere because I was too busy having the time of my life. Wow! What a ride, and what a way to have the joy of suceeding right off the bat.

Needless to say, I'm glad I had a positive learning 'experience' under my belt by learning to drive in Driver's Ed....later after mastering an automatic, my dad bought me a Opal Manta and took the time after work and on Saturdays to teach me how to drive stick shift...just sayin.:D

[Kickingwing519]

Wow guys, mm.net is full of great helping people, they are all very mature and helpful, well a hand ful is helpful, the rest are just *$&@heads. forget how it happenend, the pount is that it did happen, weather it was self inflicted or not, the thing is that there is an MM down, and in need of advise, I've been true to myself and talj the truth, has anyone here made a mistake??? maybe didn't take that promotion, or pasded up buyung stock un apple, or wrecked there mom and dads car, or is every MM owner the steve mcqueen of there era? Thanks to those who have helped me decide on the route of action and kind words, to the rest, well, I'm not that kind of person to be little one, so have a great day thx

[Ozark Marauder]

Good Luck with your repairs.......I learned on an empty parking lot. nuff said.

OZ

[sailsmen]

Wow guys, mm.net is full of great helping people, they are all very mature and helpful, well a hand ful is helpful, the rest are just *$&@heads. forget how it happenend, the pount is that it did happen, weather it was self inflicted or not, the thing is that there is an MM down, and in need of advise, I've been true to myself and talj the truth, has anyone here made a mistake??? maybe didn't take that promotion, or pasded up buyung stock un apple, or wrecked there mom and dads car, or is every MM owner the steve mcqueen of there era? Thanks to those who have helped me decide on the route of action and kind words, to the rest, well, I'm not that kind of person to be little one, so have a great day thx

When someone's bad judgement risk the lives of others I tell them they were stupid! I am not going to approve of risking others by being silent.

In todays touchy feely world no one is responsible for anything.

When I did stupid things, particularly those that risked others, my friends and family all told me how stupid I was. It is or was the penalty you paid for being stupid.:rolleyes:

[Bluerauder]

When someone's bad judgement risk the lives of others I tell them they were stupid! I am not going to approve of risking others by being silent.

In todays touchy feely world no one is responsible for anything.

When I did stupid things, particularly those that risked others, my friends and family all told me how stupid I was. It is or was the penalty you paid for being stupid.:rolleyes:

+1 on ^^^^^ this. You took the words right out of my mouth. If that makes me a "*$&@head" so be it. I can live with it. :P

[Bradley G]

All three of my children learned how to drive(the Marauder).
They were all 15 1/2 years old and had applied for learning privilages.
They all did pretty well, I lost a motor on one fatefull journey.

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Kick....

Contact bigcowlimp...he may have the parts you need or point you in the right direction...sorry I didn't think of this sooner.

Looks like new door and quarter panel (and new tires) and you'll be good to go, or is there more damage than what I can see in your pic?

Good luck.

[Kickingwing519]

Kick....

Contact bigcowlimp...he may have the parts you need or point you in the right direction...sorry I didn't think of this sooner.

Looks like new door and quarter panel (and new tires) and you'll be good to go, or is there more damage than what I can see in your pic?

Good luck.


No, that's all cosmetic, and i now have wacky wipers, i have two semi used tire for the front pzero nero and may have found some parts in GG, a five and hslf hr drive from me, its an 04 blkMM. so no need for a paint shop prividing the paint is good. ill pm bigcowlimp and see if his priced are reasonable, thx MSgt

[marauder410]

everyone makes mistakes but if sure the man has been beating himself up enough no need for other people on here to be saying neative things

the man is looking for help on what he should do to fix his marauder not for people to bash on him

mistakes happen and you learn from them

if all you guys say you have never made a mistake your a lier but yea i do admit this was a VERY VERY dumb mistake to let a little girl at that drive a MM

[justbob]

Never mind the opinionated do-gooders around here! The more experience she gets before that big day of solo the BETTER for anyone around involved... Some kids at 12 get it, some at 24 don't.. Sounds like your niece is in the more advanced crowd.

Hope you get her fixed up easy enough. Now a built MM with 450 to the wheels? I wouldn't even try that with my 13 year old boy. Too much, too quick.


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[Trevor M]

On a scale of 1 to dumb this idea was completely RETARDED. Im sorry and i feel terrible about that car but hell let her drive the DD or some junk car first at 12. And never in a neighborhood. What if kids were out playing and she hit one or something? So many terrible things could have happened. Think first my friend think!




So, i attempted to teach my niece how to drive, figured she was at the right age, i remember my dad letting me drive his 65 coronet w/a bored 440 in the local cemetary, i instrucked the the brake is you safety, hit the brakes in time of panic, we she took.a corner and did real good, left over right while turing, both hands on the wheel, however she.kept turning and we found ourselved in my neboiers yard and luckly the tree was there or we would have hit is house.



Anyway, i guess I'm posting this to get suggestings. don't know if i want to call gieco and have an adjuster look at it, and leave the car with a guy i don't know for a week or two,... or buy a new fender and door. and bring it to my buddy for a new paint job, I'm thinking grabber blue w/ black strips.... it'll be a little more if i do it myself. thanks for the input.

also, is the vic doors the same as the MM?

[Kickingwing519]

Parts are enroute off an 03 blk MM parts car for two fifty, before i replace the parts thouhgt I'd teach my 11mounth old how to drive.