marauder cubic 281 or 302

[marauder410]

why does it say 302 in the some things i see and when people are talking about there car when its really a 281 ci motor right??

so is it 281 or 302??:confused:

[Bigdogjim]

Yes 281 CID...302 HP rated by the factory...at the crank

[ctrlraven]

Yes 281 CID...302 HP rated by the factory...at the crank
That would be correct. 302hp at the crank and 240-245rwhp bone stock.

[johnnyrauder]

i think he means cubic inches. yes it's a 281 cin.

[Mr. Man]

302 cid would be a 5.0L

[DWSTANG67]

A good fact to remember is there are 1 L = 61.07 CID of course they round the number off to make it sound better.

So a 4.6 is actually 280.922cid whitch becomes a 281cid, and a 5.0 is actually 305.35 but since gm used 305cid and the 302cid was developed in the late 60s to replace the 289 and became one of fords famous engines it always remained 302cid even when they started calling them 5.0

[FastMerc]

Excuse me but I do have a 5.0 or 302 motor in mine,but its not stock with 410 h.p. :rofl:

[SC Cheesehead]

Excuse me but I do have a 5.0 or 302 motor in mine,but its not stock with 410 h.p. :rofl:

True, that! YOU'RE the one confusing the issue! ;) -----> :D

[DWSTANG67]

Excuse me but I do have a 5.0 or 302 motor in mine,but its not stock with 410 h.p. :rofl:


You do have a very nice engine

[FastMerc]

True, that! YOU'RE the one confusing the issue! ;) -----> :D
But I am not confused,but what issue...:D

[FastMerc]

You do have a very nice engine
That is nice of you thanks...:)

[marauder410]

when my motor blew up i wasent a member here yet and was only 18 and didnt really know no better so i just got a rebuild stock motor and now that i did that and learned so much more about our cars and motor and stuff im kinda pissed i just got the regular motor instead of like a 5.0 stroker or at least a cobra crate motor or something with little more power than 245 rwhp..........

[Bluerauder]

why does it say 302 in the some things i see and when people are talking about there car when its really a 281 ci motor right??

I think the automotive industry shifted to metric sizes to reset the clock on engine size and power.

To be honest, I am "kinda embarrassed" :o to say the the Marauder is a 281 CID engine. Seems rather puny to me.

Our '62 Chevy Bel Air Station wagon had a 283 CID in it. Great running car; but certainly not a powerhouse by anyone's standards.

I grew up in an age where 225, 260, 283, 289, 307, 318, 350, 360, 383, 400, 427, 428, 440, and 454 CID were common (probably missed a couple :rolleyes: ). The 281 CID is on the low end of that list. Of course, smaller engines today are much more efficient and powerful then "Back in the Day" by about +25-30%.

By comparison, the 4.6L sits in the mid to upper range of today's powerplants where 1.8, 2.0, 2.5, 3.5, 3.8 are common. Guess it depends on your point of view. Mine is back from the 60s .... and 281 CID is small by comparison. ;) Kinda funny to hear people say "Man that thing is huge when looking under the hood of the MM". Say "281 CID" and they say WHAT?????

[SC Cheesehead]

But I am not confused,but what issue...:D


The OP was wondering what size our engines are, now we gotta tell the guy "well, they're 281's, unless you're Mark, in which case you're talking 302..." ;)----> :D

[Commodore Crap]

Exactly. I've had people ask "Is that a 460?"
Uh, nope. 281.
"Wow! That's a big motor to just be 281."
DOHC.

-ryan s.

[Blackened300a]

Take the heads off and our engine is embarrassingly small for such a large car.

[WhatsUpDOHC]

Still > 1 HP/ cu in, N/A......

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[ctrlraven]

Can't wait for my rebuild, 281ci to 32Xci. I am so stroked.... err stoked. :)

[Spectragod]

Excuse me but I do have a 5.0 or 302 motor in mine,but its not stock with 410 h.p. :rofl:

Mine too is a 5.0 stroker, not stock either with 521 RWHP.:burnout:

[SC Cheesehead]

Still > 1 HP/ cu in, N/A......

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Yeah, back in the day, 1 HP/cu. in. was sort of the holy grail.

Here's some specs from those golden musclecar years:

Engine------------------Advertised----Rated----------True
------------------------HP @ RPM---- Torque@ RPM-- HP @ RPM

Buick 455 Stage 1-------360@5000----510@2800------420@5400
Camaro Z/28 302--------290@5800----290@4200------310@6200
Chevelle 396 L-78-------375@5600----415@3600------400@5600
Corvette 427 L-88-------430@5200----450@4400------480@6400
Mopar 340-4 bbl---------275@5000----340@3200------320@5600
Mopar 440-Magnum------375@4600----480@3200------410@5400
Mopar 440 Six-Pack------390@4700----490@3200------430@5600
Mopar 426 Street Hemi---425@5000----490@4000------470@6000
Mustang Boss 302--------290@5800----290@4300------310@6200
Ford 351-4 bbl Cleveland--300@5400----380@3400------340@5600
Mustang Boss 351--------330@5400----370@4000------360@6000
Mustang 428 Cobra-Jet---335@5200----440@3400------410@5600
Mustang Boss 429--------375@5200----450@3400------420@5600
Oldsmobile 455 W-30-----370@5300----500@3600------440@5600
Oldsmobile 350 W-31-----325@5400----360@3600------350@5800
Pontiac Ram Air 400------366@5100----445@3600------410@5600


If they would have had the tire, brake, and suspension technology that we have nowadays.... well, one can only ponder.

[Bigdogjim]

Back in 1970 the marauder X-100 with a 429 CID 360 HP would do the 1/4 mile in the mid 15's @ 86-92 MPH?

Also you were looking at about 12 MPG yeah I know gas was cheap, however so were wages:P

The '03-04 not that bad:cool:

Times*: for the 1970 X-100

0-60 mph (sec)
7.5
0-100 mph (sec)
19.9
1/4-mile (sec)
15.17 @ 92.3 mph
Top speed (mph)
126
Axle ratio
2.80:1

Engine Type
V-8/385 Series
Displacement (cid)
429
Horsepower @ rpm:
360 @ 4600
Torque (pounds/feet) @ rpm
480 @ 2800
Compression Ratio
10.5:1
Bore (inches)
4.36
Stroke (inches)
3.59
Valve Lifters
Hydraulic

[SC Cheesehead]

Back in 1970 the marauder X-100 with a 429 CID 360 HP would do the 1/4 mile in the mid 15's @ 86-92 MPH?

Also you were looking at about 12 MPG yeah I know gas was cheap, however so were wages:P

The '03-04 not that bad:cool:

Times*: for the 1970 X-100

0-60 mph (sec)
7.5
0-100 mph (sec)
19.9
1/4-mile (sec)
15.17 @ 92.3 mph
Top speed (mph)
126
Axle ratio
2.80:1

Engine Type
V-8/385 Series
Displacement (cid)
429
Horsepower @ rpm:
360 @ 4600
Torque (pounds/feet) @ rpm
480 @ 2800
Compression Ratio
10.5:1
Bore (inches)
4.36
Stroke (inches)
3.59
Valve Lifters
Hydraulic


Yeah, but the X-100 also weighed like 9,000 lbs, didn't it? ;)

[Spectragod]

yeah, but the x-100 also weighed like 9,000 lbs, didn't it? ;)


9,380 iirc. :d

[SC Cheesehead]

:laugh:



9,380 iirc. :d

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:D

[FastMerc]

The OP was wondering what size our engines are, now we gotta tell the guy "well, they're 281's, unless you're Mark, in which case you're talking 302..." ;)----> :D
Well that should confuse some lol, but not every one. I like the ones that say wow he has a 429 in there lol... :P:cool:

[Joe Walsh]

5.0L (big bore) checking in at 305 CID.

Used to lay down 325 RWHP/340 RWTQ...before cylinders #1 & #2 pulled up lame....:mad:

[BUCKWHEAT]

My 281 is stroked, so it's about 301, but it definitely not a 302.

[Bigdogjim]

Yeah, but the X-100 also weighed like 9,000 lbs, didn't it? ;)
Funny guy :lol:

I think it was about 4600?

[TFB]

Back in 1970 the marauder X-100 with a 429 CID 360 HP would do the 1/4 mile in the mid 15's @ 86-92 MPH?

Also you were looking at about 12 MPG yeah I know gas was cheap, however so were wages:P

The '03-04 not that bad:cool:

Times*: for the 1970 X-100

0-60 mph (sec)
7.5
0-100 mph (sec)
19.9
1/4-mile (sec)
15.17 @ 92.3 mph
Top speed (mph)
126
Axle ratio
2.80:1

Engine Type
V-8/385 Series
Displacement (cid)
429
Horsepower @ rpm:
360 @ 4600
Torque (pounds/feet) @ rpm
480 @ 2800
Compression Ratio
10.5:1
Bore (inches)
4.36
Stroke (inches)
3.59
Valve Lifters
Hydraulic

I'm seriously doubtin' a showroom X-100 with 2.80 gear could run anywhere near a 15.17, maybe if it had a good tune and 3.50 gear...

What's the source???

[marauder410]

thats all some good comments thats some information and comparisings i was looking for

like said yea its a 281 and seems puny but alot of people like damn man thats a big motor..

[SC Cheesehead]

Funny guy :lol:

I think it was about 4600?

Was that with, or without you in it? :dunno:

;) ------> :D ------> :rofl:

[Bigdogjim]

Was that with, or without you in it? :dunno:

;) ------> :D ------> :rofl:
You must must remember I was lighter back then:lol:

[Bigdogjim]

I'm seriously doubtin' a showroom X-100 with 2.80 gear could run anywhere near a 15.17, maybe if it had a good tune and 3.50 gear...

What's the source???
Taken from a number of "old" re-prints. Not too many cars the same size out-ran me at the strip back in the day.

[SC Cheesehead]

You must must remember I was lighter back then:lol:

Been there, done that myself...;)

[mrjones]

I'd be surprised if the old X100 was any heavier than our cars.

[kirk]

Taken from a number of "old" re-prints. Not too many cars the same size out-ran me at the strip back in the day.

Don't know Jim. Car & Driver did a 1970 X-100 with 3.25 gears and only managed 16.0 @ 86 mph.

[TFB]

Don't know Jim. Car & Driver did a 1970 X-100 with 3.25 gears and only managed 16.0 @ 86 mph.

Which sounds reasonable... Hafta remember that very same(ahem) 360Hp 429 was avail in the lighter, full size Ford Custom & Galaxie, neither were exactly a ball of fire... A 429 would not really run till the Cobra Jet & Super Cobra Jet versions appeared in the Torino & Cyclone...

The reality is that approx 30% of those 'advertised' 360 ponies never made it to the ground due to restrictive exhaust & drive line losses...Figure maybe 250Hp at best...

[Bigdogjim]

Don't know Jim. Car & Driver did a 1970 X-100 with 3.25 gears and only managed 16.0 @ 86 mph.

Back in the day I only raced car's the same size on the track:) I stayed away for the "pony cars" and as I called 'em the 3/4 size, Torino & Cyclone and the others.

[Bigdogjim]

Yeah, but the X-100 also weighed like 9,000 lbs, didn't it? ;)

I come up with 4389?

[Bigdogjim]

Don't know Jim. Car & Driver did a 1970 X-100 with 3.25 gears and only managed 16.0 @ 86 mph.

Let me clear the air. My '70 X-100 was not stock:) I had 3-2 barrels hooked up and other internal engine work.:banana:

Sorry for the confusion.

[SC Cheesehead]

Let me clear the air. My '70 X-100 was not stock:) I had 3-2 barrels hooked up and other internal engine work.:banana:

Sorry for the confusion.


Sweet!


429 with three deuces, that had to be a slick set up, I always loved the sound of multi carbs sucking air under WOT. Betcha got good mileage with that rascal, too. ;)

[Bigdogjim]

Sweet!


429 with three deuces, that had to be a slick set up, I always loved the sound of multi carbs sucking air under WOT. Betcha got good mileage with that rascal, too. ;)
Hell yeah!! When all 6 were pumping you could almost see the fuel gauge drop......................:lol :

:burnout:

[SC Cheesehead]

Hell yeah!! When all 6 were pumping you could almost see the fuel gauge drop......................:lol :

:burnout:


Yeah, but like the old Curtis Mathis TV commericals used to say, "expensive, but darn well worth it..." ;) ------> :D

[1stMerc]

Hell yeah!! When all 6 were pumping you could almost see the fuel gauge drop......................:lol :

:burnout:

Ouch, i remember those days, you didn't need three dueces to see that needle drop. :eek: