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Mw 2309
10-09-2012, 07:57 PM
Looking for performance camshaft s for my mm something more aggressive but not crazy for street use just thinking!! Thanks Kevin

MOTOWN
10-09-2012, 08:51 PM
Try a set of the 96-98 cobra intake cams

Blk04MM
10-09-2012, 09:59 PM
Try a set of the 96-98 cobra intake cams

What's the pros & cons

MOTOWN
10-09-2012, 10:15 PM
What's the pros & cons

Supposed to see an increase in hp when degreed in at +4 degrees advanced

The con would be labor cost if your not comfortable/able to do the install your self

WhatsUpDOHC
10-10-2012, 03:37 AM
Do you get that "lopey" cammed sound?


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SC Cheesehead
10-10-2012, 04:24 AM
Looking for performance camshaft s for my mm something more aggressive but not crazy for street use just thinking!! Thanks Kevin


What other mods have you done to date?

If you're looking for a big HP gain, you're going to be disappointed going just cams if you're NA. 03mmmonroe has installed them in his car, picked up some mid-range HP and TRQ, but actually lost some on the low end, which is where our cars need help.

If you haven't already gone with a performance tune and 4.10 gears, I'd start there; much more bang for the buck.

MOTOWN
10-10-2012, 04:28 AM
Do you get that "lopey" cammed sound?


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I guess that depends on what you consider "Lopey" theres a slight difference in the overall tone, but not a mojor lope like a cam in 350 motor

MOTOWN
10-10-2012, 04:31 AM
What other mods have you done to date?

If you're looking for a big HP gain, you're going to be disappointed going just cams if you're NA. 03mmmonroe has installed them in his car, picked up some mid-range HP and TRQ, but actually lost some on the low end, which is where our cars need help.

If you haven't already gone with a performance tune and 4.10 gears, I'd start there; much more bang for the buck.

I think this is where the importance of Degreeing your cam in comes into play! if you just do a dot to dot install its a crap shoot, not an issue with the cam itself.

Take any cam and just install it "straight up" (dot to dot) and your not going to get the full efficiency of the cam.

03mmmonroe
10-10-2012, 04:37 AM
What other mods have you done to date?

If you're looking for a big HP gain, you're going to be disappointed going just cams if you're NA. 03mmmonroe has installed them in his car, picked up some mid-range HP and TRQ, but actually lost some on the low end, which is where our cars need help.

If you haven't already gone with a performance tune and 4.10 gears, I'd start there; much more bang for the buck.

Yes the idle does sound good but to get all you can out of the cams you will need to degree them. Just installing the cams without removing the front cover takes about 4-6 hrs. and then you also need $200 in adj cam gears to advance 4 deg. I pick up 6 hp and torque stayed the same 298 hp and 306 tq at the rear wheels.

ctrlraven
10-10-2012, 06:18 AM
There is also the Comp 106400 cams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya0wqLMcV8c
ya0wqLMcV8c

breeze
10-10-2012, 06:37 AM
Brothers told me never put someone else cams in my motor

RacerX
10-10-2012, 07:20 AM
Brothers told me never put someone else cams in my motor

Brothers be wrong... ;-)

ImpalaSlayer
10-10-2012, 08:43 AM
that mach sounds sick

Blk04MM
10-10-2012, 09:32 AM
There is also the Comp 106400 cams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya0wqLMcV8c
ya0wqLMcV8c

Pros & cons of this cam

MrBluGruv
10-10-2012, 11:11 AM
I personally found it a lot easier to understand cam science when I got my Camaro since the LS engine family is still pushrod and there is only one camshaft in the motor, you may want to try to learn about it the context of a pushrod engine and then translate it into DOHC from there.

Some of the more important things to remember, in a simplified form:

1. What makes the engine "lopey" is the degree of overlap that the intake and exhaust valves have (they are open at the same time); more overlap = rougher idle. (A side effect to make note of too, if you are in a place where emissions control is tight, is that greater overlap makes it harder to pass a sniff-test during inspection time)

2. Even a badass sounding cam won't be good for much if your motor can't flow air well; you need a good exhaust and intake setup to make full advantage of performance cams.



From what I've seen too, by the typical conventions that cams are spec'd, the more "aggressive" they are, the more they tend to favor the top-end of the RPM band, so plan your mods accordingly if that's the route you end up going.

Blackened300a
10-10-2012, 11:26 AM
There is also the Comp 106400 cams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya0wqLMcV8c
ya0wqLMcV8c

Want!!!!!!!

jflave
10-10-2012, 12:43 PM
Love that sound :)

justbob
10-10-2012, 01:55 PM
I recently bought a set of Crower stage 2 blower cams for my Cobra build. Can't wait to drop that in when the time comes!


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RacerX
10-11-2012, 06:56 AM
I recently bought a set of Crower stage 2 blower cams for my Cobra build. Can't wait to drop that in when the time comes!


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That's exactly what I have in my new set of heads that I've been working on. The pic below shows the combustion chambers with the SS valves. You have the stronger valve springs going in too, right? :beer:

burt ragio
10-11-2012, 07:11 AM
Wha tlb is the valve springs ratted at you will be installing along with the new cams ?

RacerX
10-11-2012, 09:37 AM
I believe they are close to 100ft lbs/in closed.

na svt
10-11-2012, 10:00 AM
Cobra cams must be advance to at least a 108LC in order to get teh tq required for a heavy ass Marauder. If they are installed at a higher LC the tq will be low as will mid range hp and performance will suffer. Not advancing the cams will have peak power occuring after the shift point. Also, Cobra cams, no matter how they are installed, will not produce a lopey idle.

With 96-98 cobra intake cams installed at 107/112 my auto Mach makes 285/306 with cobra intake cams, stock intake, stock exhaust manifolds. The power drops off at roughly the same point as the stock cams which is around 6000.


A lopey idle sounds cool but also reduces performance. I sell a lot of custom cams and often get requests for a rough idle, I tell these people it will hurt power but they insist on the lope. As a result, I always provide two sets of lobe centers for them, one that results in a nasty idle and one that provides the most power.

Crower stg 2 cams are very mild and if installed properly will result in a smooth idle, I'd install them at 112/116 for the best powerband.