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[breeze]

JPC had a dyno day, mods are Zach tune, jlt, kooks and catback, ud pulley and intake spacer. car put down 311hp and 346tq. Dyno tune can pull 10-15 more when playing with the timing he said. af ratio was ok but should be better. She did good today, was just hoping to make 300 marks but I'm more then satisfied with these numbers.

[breeze]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/593/thumbs/IMAG0504.jpg (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22082)

[dohc324ci]

Wow very nice! What are your mods? This is the very reason I see long tubes in my future!

[breeze]

Wow very nice! What are your mods? This is the very reason I see long tubes in my future!

See first post. Thought LTs aren't allowed in cali?

[DOOM]

Did you get a tune after you put the headers on?

Wish I could have made it!

[breeze]

Did you get a tune after you put the headers on?

Wish I could have made it!

No, I want Excessive to do my tune.

Have 98 cobra cams on the way, I wanna drop those in before final tune.

[MOTOWN]

No, I want Excessive to do my tune.

Have 98 cobra cams on the way, I wanna drop those in before final tune.

I would make sure you degree them in or you may loose H.P.:eek:

[breeze]

I would make sure you degree them in or you may loose H.P.:eek:

Most def will have them degree'd so I can pick up that low end torque. Thing is, I need someone to degree them for me.

[MOTOWN]

Wish i could help but were aways from eachother! looking forward to your positive results

[na svt]

I would make sure you degree them in or you may loose H.P.:eek:
Not just degree, but advance and degree. The intake LC should be between 107 and 112. 107 will provide more tq and mid range hp while 112 will make roughly equal amounts of tq and hp.

You will not lose hp by not degreeing, the power will increase but when just "dropped in" the high, stock intake LC will reduce mid range and tq and the result will be a slower marauder.

[MMBLUE]

Not just degree, but advance and degree. You will not lose hp by not degreeing, power will increase but when just "dropped in" the high intake LC will reduce mid range and tq and the result will be a slower marauder.


Been there done that. Very wise advice. :beer:

[MOTOWN]

Not just degree, but advance and degree. The intake LC should be between 107 and 112. 107 will provide more tq and mid range hp while 112 will make roughly equal amounts of tq and hp.

You will not lose hp by not degreeing, the power will increase but when just "dropped in" the high, stock intake LC will reduce mid range and tq and the result will be a slower marauder.

I know what your saying but loosing tq at one rpm range to gain it elsewhere on these boats is the same as a loss to me as there already pathetic off the line.

I just dont trust dot to dot cam installs on the mod motors as you know ford was way off on some of these cams, if i didnt degree it in @ 0* or +4* advanced i wouldnt waste my time cause its a straight up crap shoot at best!

[breeze]

Not just degree, but advance and degree. The intake LC should be between 107 and 112. 107 will provide more tq and mid range hp while 112 will make roughly equal amounts of tq and hp.

You will not lose hp by not degreeing, the power will increase but when just "dropped in" the high, stock intake LC will reduce mid range and tq and the result will be a slower marauder.
I've reading up on these, dtd I'll gain just hp at higher rpms and
Loss bottom end. Did u get my pm sir? Also, my marauder cams are dtd would that cause and power increase or loss because my numbers are kinda up there for my mods?


I know what your saying but loosing tq at one rpm range to gain it elsewhere on these boats is the same as a loss to me as there already pathetic off the line.

I just dont trust dot to dot cam installs on the mod motors as you know ford was way off on some of these cams, if i didnt degree it in @ 0* or +4* advanced i wouldnt waste my time cause its a straight up crap shoot at best!

I agree, loss of tq but a gain in hpo is a waste cause by then your just playing catch up.

[na svt]

An intake lc of 114 is too high for a marauder, it needs to be no higher 112 and no lower than 107. If degreeing the exh cam it should be at 114-118.

Russ dropped his in and the car went slower, he advanced them the max the cloyes gears allow(about 6 deg) and the tq was still down.

[breeze]

An intake lc of 114 is too high for a marauder, it needs to be no higher 112 and no lower than 107. If degreeing the exh cam it should be at 114-118.

Russ dropped his in and the car went slower, he advanced them the max the cloyes gears allow(about 6 deg) and the tq was still down.

We've pm'd about it. He'll pm me about those in a few days or so.

[RacerX]

Nice numbers! Ford's DTD on your car was in just the right places! I've had fun with my 98 cams. DTD, then with PSRI, then my ported intake, then advanced them with Cloyes gears (well retarded 4 deg, I installed them "advanced" on the exhaust cams, which is ok according to Cloyes, but, actually retards them 4deg) then put the gears on the intake cams properly advanced 4deg. If you buy two sets, you could advance the intakes up to 8deg (advance 4deg on intake and retard 4deg on exhaust which moves them 8deg one way). Crank gears will give you another 8 deg adv or ret. Just tack the Crank gears together with a Mig when it's all degreed in. I'll have Crower Stage 2's in by spring dialed in at LC 108-118/LSA of 113. Here's a nice utility btw:

http://www.classictiger.com/mustang/CamChart/CamChartCandDr3-1.htm

[na svt]

I use the TFS crank gears and never tack weld or pin them together. The 93-98s shipped from Ford with two piece gears and they worked great as long as the damper is torqued properly.

This is my recommendation. Use the TFS crank gears to advance the cams 6 degrees and then use the Cloyes gears on the intakes to set them where you want them.

[ctrlraven]

TFS-51800505
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-51800505

Cloyes
Upgrade Kit #9-3175A
Secondary #9-3676X9

[na svt]

These are all that is needed:
CLO-S790HP9 2ea
CLO-P9139 2ea
TFS-51800505

The 9-3175A has adjustable primary gears and they do the same thing as the TFS cranks gears but at a much higher cost.

The 9-3676X9 is for pushrod engines.