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loud2004marquis
12-05-2012, 04:25 PM
Whats a ballpark price of getting forged pistons and connecting rods installed in a Marauder engine?
What HP level would a stock block handle with the rods and pistons upgraded?
Would probably be cheaper just to get a cobra short block.
I picked up mine for $1,200 bucks!
Some people here have gotten them for even cheaper than that!
Blk04MM
12-05-2012, 05:05 PM
There is a cobra short block on eBay
44k miles
ARP Studs
Manely rods
Kellogg crank
Etc... $1,750
Seen it yesterday
Billy
12-05-2012, 05:15 PM
You can get very high quality brand name forged rods and pistons and associated hardware for somewhere around $1,000 if you shop around. If they're not pre-balanced, you can either weigh the components and maybe balance them yourself, or you can have a machine shop do it. Then do all the installation yourself. Get some good books on it and take your time. When you're done, you'll have a bulletproof shortblock for like 1/3rd of what it would cost for somebody else to build one.
Vortech347
12-05-2012, 05:17 PM
Only thing is Cobra short blocks are iron where the block we have now is a lighter aluminum. If the block ever comes out of my 03 i already have an aluminum one to go in its place.
Only thing is Cobra short blocks are iron where the block we have now is a lighter aluminum. If the block ever comes out of my 03 i already have an aluminum one to go in its place.
The difference in weight is 80 pounds. No big deal.
Curless
12-05-2012, 05:34 PM
You can get very high quality brand name forged rods and pistons and associated hardware for somewhere around $1,000 if you shop around. If they're not pre-balanced, you can either weigh the components and maybe balance them yourself, or you can have a machine shop do it. Then do all the installation yourself. Get some good books on it and take your time. When you're done, you'll have a bulletproof shortblock for like 1/3rd of what it would cost for somebody else to build one.
You are not going to balance a rotating assembly yourself...not unless you have a very big garage with a crank balancer in it along with the ability to add or subtract weight from the crank. You will also need a very accurate gram scale and a rod weighing fixture....
I'm not trying to be an azz or anything just don't want someone to think they can weigh a piston and call it good.
Bluerauder
12-05-2012, 06:30 PM
What HP level would a stock block handle with the rods and pistons upgraded?
I think about 500 HP was generally accepted here as the upper limit for the stock aluminum block. A couple members went "boom" around that level. MarauderMark comes to mind.
What HP level would a stock block handle with the rods and pistons upgraded?
Stay under 460RWHP and you should be fine.
As long as you have a good tune!
Spectragod
12-05-2012, 07:56 PM
I think about 500 HP was generally accepted here as the upper limit for the stock aluminum block. A couple members went "boom" around that level. MarauderMark comes to mind.
I don't think the block is the weakest link, I'm north of 500 @ the wheels with a stock block, guts are forged and balanced, but it's a stock Marauder block.
Blk04MM
12-05-2012, 08:07 PM
Stay under 460RWHP and you should be fine.
As long as you have a good tune!
459? :D
But seriously that's good to know for future reference.
Blk04MM
12-05-2012, 08:07 PM
I don't think the block is the weakest link, I'm north of 500 @ the wheels with a stock block, guts are forged and balanced, but it's a stock Marauder block.
Well :censor: who isn't north of 500. :bows:
Spectragod
12-05-2012, 08:35 PM
Well :censor: who isn't north of 500. :bows:
I thought everyone was.....:P
SC Cheesehead
12-05-2012, 09:05 PM
I don't think the block is the weakest link, I'm north of 500 @ the wheels with a stock block, guts are forged and balanced, but it's a stock Marauder block.
^^^^^^ What he said. Rods and pistons are the weak link, block can handle 750+ with forged internals.
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