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Heavy351
12-12-2002, 02:06 PM
Stay with me and I will get to the point.

I think many of you can relate to the experiences below:

The time was 1993 and I was fresh out of school and I wanted something big, fast, and cheap. So I bought a 1988 Crown Vic
MA state police cruiser. At that time it had 90,000 miles on the clock and a 351W with the truly hateful 7200VV variable
venturi carb. The vinyl interior was full of holes and loose wiring from the equipment that had been recently torn out
and my first month was spent chasing down electrical gremlins. My parents thought I was stupid, my friends thought I had
lost my mind, and my girlfriend at the time was horrified (and frightened) to ride in it. Not long after I realized I
had something really unique. The car handled beautifully, had great power,extremely safe, and got you instant respect.

Within a year I had caught dreaded and incurable speed bug. Much to my dismay, there was nothing easy about hot rodding
a cop car. First of all, nobody understands why you would want to in the first place. Many frustrating conversations
like "why don't you just get a mustang?", "I have no idea if that would fit", and "I have never heard of anyone doing
that before" led me to give up on the aftermarket entirely and learn all I could on my own. Smokey Yunik's Performance
Secrets" was my first book on my never ending research trip. Within a few years through trial an error I had created
something very unusual.

First mods were polyurethane bushings and gas shocks. Then 295/50R15s and 255 60R15s on 9.5" rims (snow in PA is no
problem with 2 sets of cylinder heads in the trunk). Two different intake and carb setups with countless jet, metering
rod, timing changes, and fabricated linkages. I moved on the the ignition ending up with a Jacob's/ Mallory combination.
A pair of 2.5" exhaust systems were custom bent, cats removed and finally Mustang shorty headers and a pair ofsupertrapps
(lots can be done with changes in backpressure). Finally at 200,000 miles the original motor was replaced by the first of
2 engines. Engine one I destroyed at 600 miles after apparently not torquing a connecting rod correctly. The final one
was a 351W with world products heads, stainless 2.02 valves roller rockers, forged pistons. Ceramic coatings on the
chambers, valve faces, and piston tops. Much time was spent with desktop dyno picking out just the right cam. The new
motor destroys the transmission so I added a new valve body and have a tranny shop beef up the rest. There are so many
other things that have been modified and fabricated over the years.

In the end, the car beaks loose the 295's and is an absolute joy to drive. My family and friends now call it "the
beast" and finally they understand. Riding in the car is a unusual experience not soon forgotten. The power is all there
along with the handling that is truly surprising for a car this size. Everyone has a story about being in it, racing it
(losing and winning),nearly killing themselves driving it, and watching me spend countless hours and $ on it. My uncle
liked it so much he went out and bought a new Impala SS. The car itself is a topic of conversation even for those who
don't like cars. The car in some small way is an extension of my personality. People who know me and the car cannot see
it being owned by anyone else. I stopped driving the car 3 years ago with close to 300,000 miles on it. Now looking like
an extra from a Mad Max movie the body is starting to go away and the new emissions laws in PA include a visual emissions
inspection. People I have not seen in years still ask about it.

When I heard about the Marauder coming out I was positively ecstatic! Finally Ford gets it! You guys have convinced me I
need to have one. This summer I hope to have the scratch to finally put one in my driveway and start the saga all over
again...

After lurking on this group for 2 months I can see that many of you really do get the vibe that this car puts out. The
way you defend the Marauder even with the shortcomings that are part of any automobile built for the public. To compare
this car with anything else really misses the point.

The Marauder is faster than most, handles better than many,and is bigger than nearly all. The Marauder should really be
defined by what it is not. It is not a import toy, boy racer, geriatric cruiser, or status symbol for those with money
and no p***ion. The car has something I can relate to, attitude. Owners of this car will note people find your choice
unusual, maybe even contradictory "for that money you could have bought a ------". Personally, I like the controversy.
Many of you here understand the feeling. For the rest of you, it is impossible to explain.

Logan
12-12-2002, 02:12 PM
Well said, and welcome!

SergntMac
12-12-2002, 02:33 PM
Heavy...

"The way you defend the Marauder even with the shortcomings that are part of any automobile built for the public. To compare this car with anything else really misses the point."

and;

"The car has something I can relate to, attitude. Owners of this car will note people find your choice unusual, maybe even contradictory "for that money you could have bought a ------". Personally, I like the controversy. Many of you here understand the feeling. For the rest of you, it is impossible to explain."

Welcome, Heavy, you are among friends.

If you still wish to revive and mod a CV/PI, there are websites now that would be more beneficial to you. If you are in love with the MM (as it appears) pull over.

My affair with the MM grew from two strong impressions of my life, the first occuring in the "factory horsepower on sale, how much you wanna spend?" chants of the BIG 3 in the late '60s, and again in driving (pushing) all sorts of police cars (yeah, a Fairmont and a Checker, go figure...) well beyond their intended limits and like my life depended on it, because it did. I'm a driver, not a wrench, and here, you'll find a variety of enthusiasts with opinions. Strong opinions they can be too, at times. But, we all share, what you have just explained to us.

Don't lie to yourself, the MM can (and in your case, probably will) be a money pit. But, what a way to go...

Welcome home, Heavy.

ONEBADMK8
12-12-2002, 03:00 PM
Welcome and being a Lincoln enthusiast by heart I too am a HUGE fan of the "Underdog" vehicles.

Just think how many times I heard "You wanna race me in a Lincoln?"etc.

Just like the Mark VIII's its a VERY misunderstood Muscle Car.

Its unique to say the least, has endless potential and coming down on you in the rear view mirror at speed is borderline "scary".

There's something very unique about owning such a vehicle, something that in most cases cannot be explained, but you will leave them with their jaw on the floor, and to me that's priceless.

Heavy351
12-12-2002, 04:11 PM
A Mark VIII with that kind of grunt is scary, nothing borderline about it.

My interceptor was soo much fun with a flat and faded grey paint job with black primer spots, blacked out chrome, limo tint all around and turbine style wheels painted black. Imagine it roaring up behind you with that strange howl supertrapps make. Seriously, people just had no idea what to do. What a scream...

ONEBADMK8
12-12-2002, 04:14 PM
Thats too funny. Any pics of the beast? Id love to see it.

Heres a shot of one of my Mark's engine's.

http://www.maxrpm.com/sm3.jpg

Heavy351
12-12-2002, 04:18 PM
Oh my! all the chrome! doesn't your arm get tired polishing all that?

:D are there 2 throttle bodies there? MAF meters?

Yes I have a few I will scan tonight. I will post them tomorrow.

ONEBADMK8
12-12-2002, 04:36 PM
Yes, this is a Ford Prototype buily by Watson Engineering back in late 92, 450 hp, 2 tb's 16-24lb injectors, 2 80mm maf's, 3 eec's, its an "eyecatcher" running without the hood too! LOL!

It has 3800 miles original. Its pretty much the concept Mach III engine as well as the 03' Cobra.

http://www.maxrpm.com/sm5.jpg

Heres the body shot.

http://www.maxrpm.com/int7.jpg

http://www.maxrpm.com/tascahood3.jpg

Yes please scan those pics.

tetsu
12-12-2002, 06:42 PM
Mercury Marauder: Driveshaft loop not included.

Johnny

Heavy351
12-13-2002, 12:19 PM
I could not find any of the glamour shots from back in the day so I just walked out and snapped a few. No doubt you will recognize the really pinched stock 5.0 headers I had to live with for 6 months. Until I swapped then you could really feel the motor hit a wall at about 4000 RPM.

Heavy351
12-13-2002, 12:20 PM
How do you put more than one image in a message?

Heavy351
12-13-2002, 12:22 PM
And another....

Heavy351
12-13-2002, 12:24 PM
Last one..

MAD-3R
12-13-2002, 12:32 PM
Onebadmk8,

I love the hood. Custom, I assume. and how much did the work set you back?

Heavy351
12-13-2002, 12:37 PM
I had considered waxing it for todays photo shoot:rolleyes:

All added up there is about 5K in the motor including balancing, machine work (boring, valve seats) and then the parts.

Only part I kept from the old motor was the crank and connecting rods everything else I bought mail order and at the Butler fairgrounds Ford parts-o-rama!


On the rest of the car it is hard to say. A grand on the tranny and maybe another 3K for everything else.

ONEBADMK8
12-13-2002, 02:39 PM
Mad, thats a factory Ford prototype Mark VIII, Watson Engineering did all the work back in 92/93 including the glass, its amazing quality/fit and finish.

Its completely finished off underneath as well, the holes for the scoops gasket seal perfectly to each 80mm maf polished aluminum air box.

Heres a few more shots.

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/tascahood1.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/tascahood2.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/tascahood3.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/tascahood4.jpg

Now one of my other Mark VIII's known as the TerminVIIIor has a completely custom hand made 4 inch cowl hood.

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/b4nafter.jpg

Here it is finshed and painted.

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/lmstagnew5a.jpg

Heavy351
12-13-2002, 02:53 PM
ONEBADMK8

Beautiful cars, I'm sure there are countless hours invested there.

working on a whole different level you are....

MAD-3R
12-13-2002, 03:13 PM
Oh ok. Love that hood.

ONEBADMK8
12-13-2002, 07:25 PM
Thanks Guys, I appriciate that.