Crown Victoria rear bumper cover fit on Marauder?

[studio460]

Hi all!

It's probably been discussed somewhere here before, but I'm thinking of replacing my rear bumper cover with a plain black CV bumper cover to eliminate the "Marauder" lettering. Does anyone know if it's a direct replacement or not? Thanks!

[TAF]

So nobody has responded (hopefully one of our Ford Parts/Dealers can chime in)...I don't know the answer specifically. But, I would assume so. I think you'd just need to make sure it is for an LX Sport so you get the cut-outs for the tips. Also, keep in mind...I think (don't hold me to it) that the CV bumpers have chrome on them.

Why not just keep bugging Jerry Barnes for the Trilogy rear facia?
http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/watermark.php?file=509/73098rearshot.JPG

[STLThunder]

WHY? :confused:

[Black 04]

WHY? :confused:

That would of been my next question...Why???

[CRUZTAKER]

I'm not much on the 'whys' and 'whats', but occationaly I have absurd suggestions.:flamer:

Would it be possible to fill the areas, sand, and refinish? Cheaper as well?
I get this wierd feeling it won't fit, or look wierd. The body panels look so similar, but I know the front is bigger in some way because of the older bra not wrapping all the way around.*

*POSTER ASSUMES NO RESPOSIBILITY FOR LINGERIE RELATED DERAILMENTS.

[MAD-3R]

I think the Why can be answerd by one of two statments.

1. Why Not?

2. Stealth, baby. Stealth.

[Fourth Horseman]

I'm not much on the 'whys' and 'whats', but occationaly I have absurd suggestions.:flamer:

Would it be possible to fill the areas, sand, and refinish? Cheaper as well?

*POSTER ASSUMES NO RESPOSIBILITY FOR LINGERIE RELATED DERAILMENTS.

I don't know for sure, but wouldn't the flexibility of the material the bumper covers are made from make filling and painting not work real well? Wouldn't any bump or movement in the cover cause cracking of the filler material? Or would that not be a problem?

Oh, and for what it's worth, I understand where Shooter is coming from. This is the reason why I haven't put inserts on my car. Stealth. :)

[01 Interceptor]

While they are similar(and there is NO difference from LX Sport to PI to regular plain Jane CV in regards to shape or size) there is only chrome on the Street Appearance Package, and the plain Jane CV. However, as you can see below...the protrusions are different(not referring to cut-outs...the actual design of the bumper is different.) Hope this helps.
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=107415&filename=ATL8.JPG

See how my PI's bumper has two separate "bumps" while the MM has one continuous one, also notice my bumper has a trim "channel" all the way around the bumper while the MM does not. This is where the trim would reside on earlier PI models and ALL civilian model CV's.

[STLThunder]

My respectful $.02 worth. :bows:

Stealth is cool, but for what it's worth, any mods done to the exterior can diminish the future value of the car (Not that the MM will ever be a "true" classic collectors car), as it will not be in "original" appearance.

Also, I like other drivers to know my ride is different and special from their's.

[woaface]

I think you'd just need to make sure it is for an LX Sport so you get the cut-outs for the tips. All of the bumpers have the cut-outs...even mine, you just want to make sure you don't get one with chrome on it...:nono:

Find a parts place online or from a dealer here to get it, often I see them "unfinished" in black, or white...you know which one to get.

[TooManyFords]

Off topic alert...

The coolest thing in the pictures is the ADAM-12 tags on the CV!

john

[01 Interceptor]

Off topic alert...

The coolest thing in the pictures is the ADAM-12 tags on the CV!

john


Why thank you! I like them too. :up:

They ensured my first place win in the daily driver class of the last EVOOA Annual NW Conference. (Sorry Ryan.)

[gdmjoe]

Supplemental information to what's already been provided .....

The CV rear bumper fascia will fit and as for the tailpipe cut-outs, any HPP (Handling and Performance Package - which includes the PI and Sport ) will have 'em.

There is a "ya but" ... the CV fascia has a channel that is filled with a trim strip (~ 3/4"); it's normally chrome, however, is color-matched for the Sport and more often black on the PIs ( unless it's an under cover, in which case it will be chrome ).

The channel/trim in the rear corresponds / lines-up with one in the front bumper fascia. *Something that the Marauder would not have. And "No" the front bumper fascias are not readily interchangeable without some serious hacking and major upgrade.

And "Yes" the trim strip can be removed ( held-in place by double-sided molding tape ) and the channel will be the same color as the bumper fascia ( after you clean-off the tape residue ), BUT you will be left with a channel.

It's kinda hard to see, but look closely at the bumper fascia below ( you'll notice the channel with trim strip mentioned ).

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/watermark.php?file=500/1030rear01.jpg

[Silver_04]

Shoot-I'd say it has to be worth the swap if the bumper ever gets damaged. The CV bumpers have to be cheaper to replace than a Marauder bumper.

[studio460]

MAD-3R, Fourth:
You guys hit the nail on the head . . . STEALTH, BABY, STEALTH!

gdmjoe, 01, CRUZ, TAF:
Thanks for all your helpful posts, AND for the great pictures! gdmjoe, thank you for your well-detailed and very helpful post--much appreciated!

[Brutus]

Off topic alert...

The coolest thing in the pictures is the ADAM-12 tags on the CV!

john


I agree. COOL!

[RCSignals]

All CV rear bumpers have the cutouts for exhaust.
The cutouts on the CV bumper are less pronounced than the Marauder rear bumper.
The CV rear bumper is sculpted completely differently from the Marauder rear bumper. A CV rear bumper is narrower (CVs have narrower rear wheels and tires) at the rear wheel opening. This is why CV rear mud guards do not fit a Marauder.

A CV rear bumper will mot match the styling of a Marauder front bumper, and will more than likely look quite "out of place" on a Marauder.

If you want to get rid of the "Marauder" lettering your best bet would be to have it filled and the bumper painted.

I'm not sure the purpose of this "mod" but it's your car.

[FordNut]

This is why CV rear mud guards do not fit a Marauder.

They fit fine on mine (actually the wife's, I haven't decided if I like them that much yet).

[01 Interceptor]

There is a "ya but" ... the CV fascia has a channel that is filled with a trim strip (~ 3/4"); it's normally chrome, however, is color-matched for the Sport and more often black on the PIs ( unless it's an under cover, in which case it will be chrome.)

After 2000(black) there is no trim unless it's an SAP(chrome). RC is right on with the bumper skin deal.

[bugsys03]

Since you are going stealth, why not just tear off the dual stainless exhaust. Send em to my house. I'll pay the shipping

[LNYTUNS]

All CV rear bumpers have the cutouts for exhaust.
The cutouts on the CV bumper are less pronounced than the Marauder rear bumper.
The CV rear bumper is sculpted completely differently from the Marauder rear bumper. A CV rear bumper is narrower (CVs have narrower rear wheels and tires) at the rear wheel opening. This is why CV rear mud guards do not fit a Marauder.

I beg to differ I have 2003 Crown Vic mud guards on my MM and they fit fine, the rear mud guards were actually easier to install than the front ones were.

[CRUZTAKER]

...This is why CV rear mud guards do not fit a Marauder.

They fit fine on mine (actually the wife's, I haven't decided if I like them that much yet).OK, better choice of words: This is why CV rear mud guards didn't fit a Marauder.
Thru '01, they didn't fit a Marauder (FRONT YES, REAR NO.)*. I have a set in the garage that don't fit. There is a new set that does
(FIT REAR) (..but you have to admit, not 100%. Maybe 97%, but not 100. I know this as I also have a set of those, with ford ovals on them.

But we're not here to talk semantics, we're here to talk NBC out of puttin' a cv rear on his MM rear. :argue: :baaa: :nono: :P

*Don't quote me on the year, as I am too lazy to walk out to the garage and look:sleepy:

[SergntMac]

The cutouts on the CV bumper are less pronounced than the Marauder rear bumper.
I fully agree, RC, thanks!

Every morning I walk through a parking lot filled with CV/PIs, all with dual exhaust. All of them have 2.0" OD exhaust tips that are exposed past the rear facia, and turned down at the ends. This CV/PI facia is likewise gently tapered to make that look sensible, tasteful, legit.

NBC will have to change his 3.0" OD Megs tips, or, trim back on this tapered cut-out (which will probably look rather homemade IMHO). Jeeze...I thought I was going nuts...Whew! I can grab some pics tomorrow AM if y'all need to see this...

I'm not sure the purpose of this "mod" but it's your car.
Neither am I, but I have a few extra "police interceptor" badges around here somewhere. I would send NBC one, if he would like to send me his mailing addy via SergntMac@aol.com

I can imagine how this mod may be useful in his line of work.

[01 Interceptor]

Neither am I, but I have a few extra "police interceptor" badges around here somewhere. I would send NBC one, if he would like to send me his mailing addy via SergntMac@aol.com

Are they they thick ones or the low profile flexible ones? I was seriously considering adding one to my dash. Ryan who is on this site, but barely ever posts has one on his dash and it looked decent. Of course, once the car is supercharged...the supercharged emblem is going on the car. :up:

[gdmjoe]

I fully agree, RC, thanks!

Every morning I walk through a parking lot filled with CV/PIs, all with dual exhaust. All of them have 2.0" OD exhaust tips that are exposed past the rear facia, and turned down at the ends. This CV/PI facia is likewise gently tapered to make that look sensible, tasteful, legit.

NBC will have to change his 3.0" OD Megs tips, or, trim back on this tapered cut-out (which will probably look rather homemade IMHO). Jeeze...I thought I was going nuts...Whew! I can grab some pics tomorrow AM if y'all need to see this...
You're both correct ... the CV tailpipe cut-out is not quite as radical as the MM ( and there's a flare on the inside top for the MM that the CV does not have ).

However, NBC Shooter would not have to down-grade to a 2" exhaust tip ( or tailpipe ) ... a slight tweak of the rear hanger bracket would suffice to lower the tip a RCH.