Drilled/Slotted Rotors & Ceramic Pads Installed

[License2Bill]

I knew when I bought the car back in October, that it needed new brakes. The old rotors were badly warped. I looked around and eventually settled on a front and rear setup from eBay seller Brakemotive76. Before I made my decision, I made sure to do research on the stuff they sell all the while thoughts of "don't skimp on brakes, you'll not only endanger your life, but the lives of everyone else on the road" floated around in my brain. I read reviews of the parts on C6 Vette and LS forums, even one site where they are a site vendor. I thought it was too good to be true for $199.48 with free shipping and no sales tax. 90% of the reviews I read were positive and with over 90,000 (yes ninety thousand) positive feedback posts on eBay, I pulled the trigger. I've had them installed for almost two weeks now, and they are incredible. It stops on a dime and gives change back.
Anyhow, here are some pictures.
Passenger rear rotor, they all look the same so only one pic before installation
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/986062/fullsize/imag0229.jpg
Looks like I'm in for a serious case of heating and beating these puppies to come off. That didn't do the trick so I had to use that trick in the youtube video that requires the 1/2"x3" bolt and 2 nuts. It popped right off
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/986063/fullsize/imag0230.jpg

Here's the youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtsTJCRljAs

It almost looks like the old rotor was glued on!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/986065/fullsize/imag0232.jpg

You can see the rust flakes on the ground due to so much work from the 8 lb sledge and the rust breaking from doing the bolt trick.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/986066/fullsize/imag0233.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/543107_10151146817147294_21896 9418_n.jpg
Pads are on!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/986067/fullsize/imag0234.jpg

Driver side all back together

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/64025_10151146817252294_298770 485_n.jpghttp://www.supermotors.net/getfile/986068/fullsize/imag0235.jpg

Got the wheels back on!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/986069/fullsize/imag0236.jpg

Close up of rotor, ignore my horrendously dirty wheels, they've since been cleaned and polished

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/986070/fullsize/imag0237.jpg

Thanks for looking! The rear rotors proved to be a little more troublesome. I soaked them in PB Blaster and let it soak overnight. Went out in the morning to check, and a missed swing with the sledge resulted in dislodging a wheel stud. WHOOPS! Sprayed it some more and let it sit while I went to work. Got home 8 hours later and they practically fell off. When it warms up enough to ride the bike to work, I'll be painting the calipers as well. Can't decide between the old standby of red or go with something a little more unique.

[tmhitchens1]

Who are they made by?

[License2Bill]

The pads are PowerStop, the rotors I am unsure of. They are Zinc Plated though.

[Mebot]

looking good man. you should have picked up a can of G2 caliper paint while your wheels & rotors were off! good job & thanks for posting!

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[MOTOWN]

Looks good! I love the d/s rotors

[License2Bill]

Thanks! I would've painted the calipers at this point but didn't plan to have 24 hours to let the car sit while paint dried. I actually had to borrow my brother's car to get to work while I let the rears soak in penetrating spray.

[tallpaul]

Deffinitely get the calipers painted or powder coated, then they will really look good. I painted mine with POR-15 RED paint then their clear coat over it.

[Mebot]

you can paint them in the spring

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[License2Bill]

Thanks everyone! I am planning to paint the calipers in the spring, all the while slowly picking up parts 1 at a time for an Eaton build. I've sourced but have yet to buy the intercooler, coolant crossover piece, inlet elbow, the intake tube and a K&N filter. That leaves me with a couple big ticket items left.

[slickster]

I have the same rotors and I looked as much as you did. I've had them on for 8months now and still doing well. I also added ss lines and hawk pads red cailiper paint at the same time. Now when I go hard on the brakes the front end plows into the ground. Since the wheels wher off I used a wheel polish Buff ball for the inner wheel

[johnnyrauder]

pics or it didn't happen

[MM2004]

Great write-up, and thanks for sharing!

:beer:

This is an affordable alternative to better stopping power for these land yachts, based upon your review/experience.

Please provide more detail on exactly what you purchased.

Mike.

[License2Bill]

This is the exact item I ordered. Looks like he bumped his price up a couple bucks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-REAR-KIT-4-PERFORMANCE-DRILLED-SLOTTED-BRAKE-ROTORS-AND-8-CERAMIC-PADS-/390406307742?pt=Motors_Car_Tru ck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A2003|Make%3AMercur y|Model%3AMarauder&hash=item5ae6077f9e&vxp=mtr

I don't really know much about them besides what is stated in the auction/Buy it now jamboree. They look awesome, fit perfect, and work better than I could have imagined.

A buddy of mine runs the Power stop rotors on his 88 LX Mustang convertible and has for the past several years. He races 1/4 and auto x and has never had a problem. This was one of the reasons I decided on this package

[IwantmyMMnow!]

I have the same rotors and I looked as much as you did. I've had them on for 8months now and still doing well. I also added ss lines and hawk pads red cailiper paint at the same time. Now when I go hard on the brakes the front end plows into the ground. Since the wheels wher off I used a wheel polish Buff ball for the inner wheel


This is the exact item I ordered. Looks like he bumped his price up a couple bucks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-REAR-KIT-4-PERFORMANCE-DRILLED-SLOTTED-BRAKE-ROTORS-AND-8-CERAMIC-PADS-/390406307742?pt=Motors_Car_Tru ck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A2003|Make%3AMercur y|Model%3AMarauder&hash=item5ae6077f9e&vxp=mtr

I don't really know much about them besides what is stated in the auction/Buy it now jamboree. They look awesome, fit perfect, and work better than I could have imagined.

A buddy of mine runs the Power stop rotors on his 88 LX Mustang convertible and has for the past several years. He races 1/4 and auto x and has never had a problem. This was one of the reasons I decided on this package

Man, I am SOOOO wanting to buy these...is the diameter the same as stock rotors? (Didn't see that info in listing)

Slickster, how do they look now compared to the day you put them on? Any rust issues?

GREAT find, License2Bil!!!

[License2Bill]

These are a direct replacement for the stock rotors and pads. No modification needed.

[IwantmyMMnow!]

lol....$497 for overnight FedEx...I think I'll stick with the free shipping, even if it takes a week to get them...;)

I'd pull the trigger right now, but the bank account my Paypal is linked to can't take the hit...need to get my other bank account linked up to Paypal...gonna have to wait until Tuesday, though...argghh!

[slickster]

Man, I am SOOOO wanting to buy these...is the diameter the same as stock rotors? (Didn't see that info in listing)

Slickster, how do they look now compared to the day you put them on? Any rust issues?

GREAT find, License2Bil!!!
i think the front are a bit bigger then oem. if the car sits for a week or longer in most weather or rain theres some kind of yellow looking stuff but after the rotors heat up when driving they look new

[tbone]

Get a small can of barbeque paint and a small paint brush and save yourself a lot of money and taping off time. Takes a long time to dry though. Looks great and will last forever.

[LostInTennessee]

"youtube video that requires the 1/2"x3" bolt and 2 nuts" Link please if you still have it.


found it I think http://youtu.be/_-bkb5-A2Qs

[License2Bill]

This is the one I used. Same thing, but cooler music and better camera work

mtsTJCRljAs

[Blk04MM]

Thanks. Ordering right now

[LostInTennessee]

I just finished installing the same $201 brake kit last night. Seems I had the same problems others have had. The rear wheel was stuck but found this "To get the rear wheels off do this: Loosen the studs on one wheel about 1/4 to 1/2 a turn, power brake the car and the wheel will pop loose, tighten the studs and do the same to the other side." Thanks fastblackmerc

Also the rotors where stuck, tried the hammer thing but desided to leave well enought alone and get a brake puller from amazon - OTC 6980 Heavy Duty Brake Drum and Rotor Puller . Worked like a dream.

First time I've done a brake job in 30 year. :)

There not BAER or WILWOOD, they would have been nice, but still look cool and seem to work very good.

Thanks License2Bil for you thread and help......

[IwantmyMMnow!]

I've had mine on for 2 weeks now and really like them. Braking action is definitely better than what I had before. Got to really test them out earlier this week when some jagoff cut in front of me making a left turn from the opposite direction; I stomped the brake pedal and **** went flying everywhere inside my car and my seatbelt was strangling me...lol.

[tbone]

Get a small can of barbeque paint and a small paint brush and save yourself a lot of money and taping off time. Takes a long time to dry though. Looks great and will last forever.


I was wrong about the barbeque paint. Salt made the rust come right through. Get caliper paint. I have to re-do mine. :(

[LostInTennessee]

**** went flying everywhere inside my car and my seatbelt was strangling me...lol.

I'll drink to that :beer:

[License2Bill]

Glad you all are having as much success with these as I am... Anybody want to buy a crown Vic?

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[License2Bill]

That was my daily driver until about 3 hours ago.

[WhatsUpDOHC]

Holy crap! What happened?

[Mebot]

ouch! are you ok? dang so sorry to see/hear about something like this! wow

sent from space

[Limited360]

Damn. Looks no good to me... Inquiring minds want to know what happened end indeed!!! Mainly because I just installed drilled and slotted with ceramic pads. Stops awesome to me so far. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/30/8uzu3etu.jpg

I need to paint calipers still, got lazy after cutting my hands up.

[License2Bill]

Thanks everyone for the concern. This was NOT on the vehicle that I installed the new rotors and pads on.

11 at night, bald tires, broken abs sensor and swerving to avoid several deer. Shook me up more than anything. I got out and walked away. The car definitely did its job.

[Mebot]

Thanks everyone for the concern. This was NOT on the vehicle that I installed the new rotors and pads on.

11 at night, bald tires, broken abs sensor and swerving to avoid several deer. Shook me up more than anything. I got out and walked away. The car definitely did its job.

oh wow glad to hear you're ok & that the car did its job.

sent from space

[BCMARAUDING]

http://www.autoanything.com/brakes/61A5870A0A0.aspx

This the same Power Stop kit setup you guys are talking about?

[License2Bill]

Yea that looks like the same one. I wonder what the difference is between the $430 kit and the $230 kit.

[LostInTennessee]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-REAR-KIT-4-PERFORMANCE-DRILLED-SLOTTED-BRAKE-ROTORS-AND-8-CERAMIC-PADS-/390406307742#ht_7050wt_1255

[rocky]

Seems like the way to go!


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[BLACKMAGIC03]

Sry to bring up....but any pics of the, since they've been on the car? Any rust

[License2Bill]

I'll try to get some tomorrow since the weather is supposed to be nice.

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[BLACKMAGIC03]

10fo...appreciate it

[LostInTennessee]

No rust on mine. But it has not been in the weather eather.

[License2Bill]

So there is a little bit of spotting going on since it's been wet lately. The non braking surface of the rotor has a little surface rust on it. They still work phenomenally though. If it's dry tomorrow, I'll pull the wheel for a better picture

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[1Marauder]

Ordered mine today. Thank all of you for the threads, data, links, and follow up. They look great!

I looked into this 2months ago and the kits were $500 or so.

PS I am painting my calipers SILVER as close to the wheel color as possible

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Attached are how mine look after 3 months; DD and no garage...I have no complaints.

[1Marauder]

Nicely done

[BCMARAUDING]

Looks great! I'm leaning towards that ebay kit! Thanks for the info!

[slickster]

One year 5k miles still good

[Guittard22]

Well bill looks like I be getting a pair at the end of summer thanks again for posting this

[License2Bill]

Well bill looks like I be getting a pair at the end of summer thanks again for posting this

No problem man! Let me know when you order the kit and you can come to my house and we will put them on

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[Guittard22]

^^^^
Maybe I try and get them before NH meet and I come down for the day and do the beakes and rotors and maybe paint the calipers red or black Punisher stamp as well lol

[License2Bill]

We can definitely do that, but caliper paint needs 24 hours to dry and cure properly

[Guittard22]

Maybe sleep over lol but ps I don't sleep in my car :)

[License2Bill]

ps I don't sleep in my car :)
You're gonna be riding that bus for a while aren't you? Alcohol leads to bad judgements sometimes. That was one of them...

We have a spare bed in the basement. So that would work out.

[NavySeabee]

How are these brakes working out for you guys? Mine will be here any day now.

$201.00 & free shipping! I'm a little skeptical about these. Just seems to sound like one of those too good to be true deals.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-REAR-KIT-4-PERFORMANCE-DRILLED-SLOTTED-BRAKE-ROTORS-AND-8-CERAMIC-PADS-/390406307742?pt=Motors_Car_Tru ck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A2003|Make%3AMercur y|Model%3AMarauder&hash=item5ae6077f9e&vxp=mtr

[crownvic05]

Got them for my 2002 maxima front and rear. Been on for a whole year now. They brake better then stock for sure and no noise. Also, very little brake dust. Just put them on on my crown vic and so far I like them. Once again, over stock is a great improvement and they look real nice.

About to order them for my dads 05 4runner.

[Esilar]

I bought this Power Stop set front and rear from Rockauto in may 2013 and they are still looking great. Breaking is better than stock, i'm still happy with it. Good value for the money. Part number at Rockauto was "PWR K1365".

[License2Bill]

Over a year and they are working just well as the day I installed them

Sent from 1984

[IwantmyMMnow!]

I've had these on my MM for just over a year now, and here's my review:

--Braking action still just as good as day one
--Still look as good as day one
--Either the amount of brake dust has increased a little, or I'm not cleaning my rims as often as I used to.
--Needed to have the rotors machined/turned/resurfaced/whateveryoucallit last month; approx. 15k miles on them at that time
--Pads still have quite a bit of meat left on them
--Will get pulsation on long braking (more than 10 seconds) situations and traveling at speeds above 50mph....pulsation starts sooner (after 5 seconds) if traveling at speeds above 65mph and gets dramatically worse after 10 seconds of braking.

I think the need to have the rotors worked on at 15k is mostly due to the fact that I live in hilly/mountainous area...I remember needing to have my OEM rotors worked on within the first year after I moved here. It cost $40 to have it done, so not a big deal.

Overall, I'd give this setup a 9 out of 10. IMO, they look cool, work like a champ, and didn't break the bank. The only knock is the pulsation issue, so I have to keep that in mind when I'm 'coming down the mountain' on my way to Charlotte....I've had the same issue in other cars as well, but the pulsation wouldn't start up as quick as these do.

Edit: one thing I forgot to add....the 'squeak' level has increased over the course of the year as well....adjusting my rating to 8.5 out of 10 because of this...

[N20JUNKY]

Has anyone used these brakes?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/321146218481?fits=Make%3AMercu ry%7CModel%3AMarauder

Wanting black so the non contact point don't rust.

[RubberCtyRauder]

I have R1Concepts inc washed rotors in silverish color...R1 is in Cali too and also on ebay.. Any zinc washed/painted rotor will prevent rust on the noncontact area..the black edge and rotor hat will look good though. Look up R1 concepts.. They have a coupel different grades and zinc washed and plain to drilled an slotted

[NavySeabee]

Mail Call!

[Hadamustang1]

ROCKAUTO.. $358.. LESS REBATE.. AND DISCOUNT.. lOOKS LIKE EBAY STILL A LITTLE CHEAPER..

[JoeBoomz]

Been running them for years now, installed 20 of those rotors over 5 different vehicles now. All working great.


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showpost.php?p=927564&postcount=9

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showpost.php?p=944993&postcount=41


If you can't afford pricy brakes, these are a very cost-effective and awesome-looking alternative that perform and last terrific. Highly recommended.

[Ari]

I just bought these same rotors and pads. When I ordered them I could have sworn that it was just front pads and rotors so when I opened the box and found front and rear rotors and pads I was really surprised. I installed them yesterday and there is a great improvement over the stock brakes! I'm really impressed for $200 brakes. I have another set of pads and rotors from r1 concepts and these ebay ones look basically exactly the same.

[crownvic05]

So its been about 3 weekz now with these on the rear of my 05 vic. I have go say, they are gathering rust pretty quick. So before installing the fronts this weekend coming up, I deceied to paint the areas that are rusting on the rears. I will then remove the rears and paint them as well. Other then that, so far no complaints on the rear and once again, no squeek, squil and hardly brake dust.

and here are the fronts painted. Please take time and paint them. They will also look way better.

http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq295/isatisfy2003/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140510_234249_zps9a43cdc 2.jpg (http://s457.photobucket.com/user/isatisfy2003/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140510_234249_zps9a43cdc 2.jpg.html)

[chief455]

On sale this weekend $191 shipped = just ordered mine!

[marauder410]

i also have the brake motive brand d/s rotors and the house (power stop) pads and the front and back...

has been about 8 months and still working great...

the thing with these rotors.. you put a good pad on these rotors and they will not last long at all trust me... you will have heat spots all over the rotors within 6 months...

these rotors are best with the pads that they come with....

[crownvic05]

i also have the brake motive brand d/s rotors and the house (power stop) pads and the front and back...

has been about 8 months and still working great...

the thing with these rotors.. you put a good pad on these rotors and they will not last long at all trust me... you will have heat spots all over the rotors within 6 months...

these rotors are best with the pads that they come with....



Guess you know because you switched the pads huh? Good to know. Will keep in mind when its time to replace the pads. Question is do the rotors last a while?

[tonyshelton]

I have had the brakemotove/powerstop setup for about 6 months. Under normal driving they are the best brakes I have ever had on a panther. Giving them heavy testing they shudder a little at hard braking over 100 mph. Since I never drive in situations where I need to hard brake at those speeds it looks like all is good!

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[Guittard22]

Well Bill & Pete I just got a set off ebay today for the marauder mine look gross and bad and with the car show coming up hope they get to me in time . Saw Pete's a few weeks back looked amazing .

FYI the rotors were 15% off not bad for 175.00

[License2Bill]

Is the car at bobs?

[Guittard22]

Is the car at bobs?




Nope same place we took the Tires off :D:D

[chief455]

Well Bill & Pete I just got a set off ebay today for the marauder mine look gross and bad and with the car show coming up hope they get to me in time . Saw Pete's a few weeks back looked amazing .

FYI the rotors were 15% off not bad for 175.00
I have that set on my car as well. working fine with TCE SS hoses = big improvement!

[1Marauder]

I have a set of these I've been storing. I will install them now thanks to your guys additional write ups.

[FF1077]

Anyone looking to get these they are currently $159.56 with free shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/390406307742#ht_8226wt_1223

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Looks like I'm in for a serious case of heating and beating these puppies to come off. That didn't do the trick so I had to use that trick in the youtube video that requires the 1/2"x3" bolt and 2 nuts. It popped right off

I tried this once on my grand marquis and ended up breaking the bolts!

[sflrainmaker01]

Anyone looking to get these they are currently $159.56 with free shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/390406307742#ht_8226wt_1223

I need some rear brakes soon. I was hoping to find the already powder coated rotors and pads? :depress::confused:

[fastblackmerc]

I need some rear brakes soon. I was hoping to find the already powder coated rotors and pads? :depress::confused:

I'd just paint the rotor hats with caliper paint.

[sflrainmaker01]

I'd just paint the rotor hats with caliper paint.

I have been considering that. Seems like it would be easier to apply with a brush rather than taping and worrying about overspray etc...

[fastblackmerc]

I have been considering that. Seems like it would be easier to apply with a brush rather than taping and worrying about overspray etc...

Make a cardboard cover bigger than the rotor, cutout the middle so it fits over the hat. Paint away. Keep the cover for next time!

[sflrainmaker01]

Make a cardboard cover bigger than the rotor, cutout the middle so it fits over the hat. Paint away. Keep the cover for next time!

So, should you paint the bracket that holds the pads too or just the caliper?

Also, these eBay "Brakemotive" rotors and pads seem to be liked by a lot of people on this site. Really, it's just my rear pads are worn. Is it best to replace the cross drilled and slotted rotors I have or just do a "pad slap"? FYI, currently, there is no pulsation from my current setup, just worn pads.

[rbrown]

Anyone looking to get these they are currently $159.56 with free shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/390406307742#ht_8226wt_1223


Price was too good to pass up. One showed up with a dent so they are sending me another to replace.

I will update once I get them installed.

[NavySeabee]

Price was too good to pass up. One showed up with a dent so they are sending me another to replace.

I will update once I get them installed.

I've had mine on for a few months now. Nice brakes but quite a bit of squealing. Anyone else?

[whitey]

I've had mine on for a few months now. Nice brakes but quite a bit of squealing. Anyone else?

Mine started squealing a few months after i installed them, but its only the first couple times using the brakes before they heat up. Had them on since January, 15k miles or so, so far, and no complaints.

[sflrainmaker01]

Price was too good to pass up. One showed up with a dent so they are sending me another to replace.

I will update once I get them installed.

Any update after install? I gotta do mine very soon....

[whitey]

Any update after install? I gotta do mine very soon....

Get the brakemotives, they work well, and for the price they cant be beat for a drilled/slotted rotor set up. I have heard that you should use the pads they sell/package deal for optimal rotor life. I put a set on the wifes 10 f150, and still great quality.

[71cyclone]

Good deal / will do >>>>>

[lifespeed]

Powder coating does not hold up to brake clean solvent. I would not use it.

[pantheroc]

Powder coating does not hold up to brake clean solvent. I would not use it.

Does it make a difference if the cleaner is Chlorinated or Non-Chlorinated?

[fastblackmerc]

Does it make a difference if the cleaner is Chlorinated or Non-Chlorinated?

My understanding is the chlorinated type is non-flammable but harsher to the environment. The non-chlorinated type is extremely flammable, but better environmentally.

[lifespeed]

Does it make a difference if the cleaner is Chlorinated or Non-Chlorinated?

I believe only non-chlorinated is sold today.

[Mebot]

Mine started squealing a few months after i installed them, but its only the first couple times using the brakes before they heat up. Had them on since January, 15k miles or so, so far, and no complaints.

bump

Wanted to provide a quick update in this thread. After more than a year (almost coming up on 2 yrs with this kit installed) my rotors still look great and I have had no issues with braking or stopping. My only complaint is what Whitey mentioned above. It's the squealing when you first start up. It's annoying. I am going to take some time and put the old OEM pads back on to see if that makes a difference. I will report back when I do.

[License2Bill]

I took the car to an AutoX event on November 30th. I had the course instructor ride along. He was astounded at the braking capabilities. The cars he uses to teach are CVPIs from the same era. He could not believe that all the difference in stopping power was due to a $200 set from eBay.

[RF Overlord]

I believe only non-chlorinated is sold today.CRC still sells both the red and the green...

[crownvic05]

bump

Wanted to provide a quick update in this thread. After more than a year (almost coming up on 2 yrs with this kit installed) my rotors still look great and I have had no issues with braking or stopping. My only complaint is what Whitey mentioned above. It's the squealing when you first start up. It's annoying. I am going to take some time and put the old OEM pads back on to see if that makes a difference. I will report back when I do.

This same thing happen to me only on the rear though. Replaced them with OEM pads and problem solved. My wifes ford escape also has this set up. Its been about 5 months now and the fronts are starting to squeek. Will be replacing the pads with OEM as well.

As per my dads 4runner which has the same set up, its been about 7-8 months and no squeeks yet.

[tbone]

Did you put brake grease on the back side of the pads? The slight movement is what causes squeaks. The grease stops this movement.

I have no squeaks whatsoever. Wagner ceramics on slotted/drilled. No cracks either. Ebay specials.

[chief455]

I took the car to an AutoX event on November 30th. I had the course instructor ride along. He was astounded at the braking capabilities. The cars he uses to teach are CVPIs from the same era. He could not believe that all the difference in stopping power was due to a $200 set from eBay.
I bought the same kit based on reading this thread. Combined with TCE SS brake lines, like another car! big improvement / dollars spent. :banana:

At some point I'll want a big front brake upgrade, done it before and stopping is at another level.
All said, the $200 ebay set is good.

[tbone]

Did you put the ss lines on at the same time? I'm considering the ss lines, although I replaced all the lines with OEM rubber ones when I revamped the entire brake system. I'm wondering how big the improvement really is with JUST the ss lines.

[Mebot]

Did you put brake grease on the back side of the pads? The slight movement is what causes squeaks. The grease stops this movement.

I have no squeaks whatsoever. Wagner ceramics on slotted/drilled. No cracks either. Ebay specials.


No I haven't applied brake grease. I have heard a lot of do's and do-not's of applying lubrication to brakes. You have to be careful with that and I just haven't put much effort in to the application process.

What grease do you use and how do you apply it? Aside from the back of the pads, I mean. is there anywhere else you recommend applying the grease? don't you have to be careful not to apply to any bushings or rubber compounds?

[Mebot]

Did you put the ss lines on at the same time? I'm considering the ss lines, although I replaced all the lines with OEM rubber ones when I revamped the entire brake system. I'm wondering how big the improvement really is with JUST the ss lines.


Not sure if this question was directed at Chief455 or me, but I did install the TCE SS Brake Lines at the same time (see page 1 of this (http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=89024)thread

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=89024).

[tbone]

No I haven't applied brake grease. I have heard a lot of do's and do-not's of applying lubrication to brakes. You have to be careful with that and I just haven't put much effort in to the application process.

What grease do you use and how do you apply it? Aside from the back of the pads, I mean. is there anywhere else you recommend applying the grease? don't you have to be careful not to apply to any bushings or rubber compounds?

You put it on the back of the pads and on the ends where they contact the caliper. Not a lot. Must be brake grease for this purpose so it doesn't wash off. You also make sure the pins in the sliding calipers are greased up and sliding well. No, it won't hurt bushings or rubber.

Pull the pads and grease them and I bet the squeaking goes away. There are videos on youtube on how to do it and why.

[tbone]

Not sure if this question was directed at Chief455 or me, but I did install the TCE SS Brake Lines at the same time (see page 1 of this (http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=89024)thread

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=89024).


I would be interested in knowing someone's results from installing just the ss lines and nothing else at that time and what the results were.

[Mebot]

You put it on the back of the pads. Not a lot. Must be brake grease for this purpose so it doesn't wash off. You also make sure the pins in the sliding calipers are greased up and sliding well. No, it won't hurt bushings or rubber.

Pull the pads and grease them and I bet the squeaking goes away.

That doesn't sound too hard honestly. Maybe I'll stop by my local FLAPS to pick some up. I have the OEM pads sitting in a box in the garage so I have another fallback option to um fallback on I guess. Thanks for the tip! I'll update on this thread with my results


I would be interested in knowing someone's results from installing just the ss lines and nothing else at that time and what the results were.

I believe threads have been posted about just the SS lines only. Maybe search in TCE's forum to see past threads.... But from what I've read is all positives. The braking power is definitely increased with just the install of the SS lines only.

[tbone]

Here's a perfect video showing exactly how to do it. I revised my post above to include greasing the slides on the pads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEW0JmMIFks

[crownvic05]

Ive greased all my pads in the past and if they were cheap, they would still squeal. I would then replace them with high quality pads and no squealing. The brakes pads that come with the set of rotors from ebay are pretty cheap in my opinion. After a year or less of use, if you remove them to inspect them they would probably be all cracked and stuff, atleast mine were.

Maybe some people get lucky and there cheap pads dont squeal.

[tbone]

Cheap is cheap for a reason. Typically the back plate that is supposed to stop squealing is not permanently attached to the steel on the cheapies. Buy Wagners or better....back plate is permanently attached. Still should grease them.

[whitey]

My squeaks have stopped for whatever reason. Also, i did not install the ss lines, and i have seen improvement with just the brake kit. Had them on for a year now.

[crownvic05]

Cheap is cheap for a reason. Typically the back plate that is supposed to stop squealing is not permanently attached to the steel on the cheapies. Buy Wagners or better....back plate is permanently attached. Still should grease them.



Thanks for clearing that up. As per wagner brakes which ive never used, I bet they are good but how can you comepare them to motorcraft oem specs or police specs pads which ive used both and neverhad issuswt hm.

[tbone]

Wagner Thermoquiet ceramics. Stop well and no black dust like oem.

[crownvic05]

Wagner Thermoquiet ceramics. Stop well and no black dust like oem.

I will give them a go next brake job. I know my local pepboys and advance auto have them.

Thanks

[tbone]

You will be pleased.

[MENINBLK]

I got over 75,000 on a set of Wagner Thermoquiet Ceramic pads.
When they start to squeak, its time to change them...

[detrailers]

just ordered mine (further down the rabbit hole I go)

[Mebot]

bump

Wanted to provide a quick update in this thread. After more than a year (almost coming up on 2 yrs with this kit installed) my rotors still look great and I have had no issues with braking or stopping. My only complaint is what Whitey mentioned above. It's the squealing when you first start up. It's annoying. I am going to take some time and put the old OEM pads back on to see if that makes a difference. I will report back when I do.

Bump. After I replaced my pads this past weekend I don't have that early/cold squeal anymore. I just popped my OEM pads back on and am happy with the result. In the future, I will probably go with those Wagner Ceramic Thermaquiet, but for now, OEM pads will do just fine.

[whitey]

Bump. After I replaced my pads this past weekend I don't have that early/cold squeal anymore. I just popped my OEM pads back on and am happy with the result. In the future, I will probably go with those Wagner Ceramic Thermaquiet, but for now, OEM pads will do just fine.
Be careful of doing this. Ive done some research on brakemotives stuff and other forums are saying to use the pads that came with the kit for longevity of the rotors. I personally dont see a problem with the oem brake pads but possibly another high performance pad, might limit the life span.

And btw, I hate gingers.
Im going to punch you for not going to looseville.

[Mebot]

This is interesting.. what does this research say? I'm thinking by the time I replace my pads I might just do the big brake update at that time

Can't stop the signal

[JBeezy]

This is interesting.. what does this research say? I'm thinking by the time I replace my pads I might just do the big brake update at that time

Can't stop the signal
Just Do It!!

[whitey]

This is interesting.. what does this research say? I'm thinking by the time I replace my pads I might just do the big brake update at that time

Can't stop the signal
The consensus is that you should use the pads that come with the rotors for the best life out of the rotors.
Why big brakes? Seriously. I dont personally see the point of big brakes unless you either drive it on a road course racetrack regularly, or supercharged and can go hella fast. I would look into just steel braided lines and top notch brake pads, and save the extra cash. Just my .02.

[detrailers]

FWIW I did the Powerstop D/S rotors and ceramic pads. Kit was well priced at $177 delivered but notice 0 difference in stopping power. However they are quiet and look really cool....

[fastblackmerc]

The consensus is that you should use the pads that come with the rotors for the best life out of the rotors.
Why big brakes? Seriously. I dont personally see the point of big brakes unless you either drive it on a road course racetrack regularly, or supercharged and can go hella fast. I would look into just steel braided lines and top notch brake pads, and save the extra cash. Just my .02.

If you've ever driven in or driven a Marauder equipt with a big brake kit you'll get the point. Stock Marauder brakes are marginal at best.

[super3960]

Just put these on my car tonight, so far so good

[1Marauder]

I have a new in box rotor and pad set, never opened. Bought the big brake adapters and going larger. Anyone want to buy this? Will deal!

[xopher]

This is the exact item I ordered. Looks like he bumped his price up a couple bucks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-REAR-KIT-4-PERFORMANCE-DRILLED-SLOTTED-BRAKE-ROTORS-AND-8-CERAMIC-PADS-/390406307742?pt=Motors_Car_Tru ck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A2003|Make%3AMercur y|Model%3AMarauder&hash=item5ae6077f9e&vxp=mtr

I don't really know much about them besides what is stated in the auction/Buy it now jamboree. They look awesome, fit perfect, and work better than I could have imagined.

A buddy of mine runs the Power stop rotors on his 88 LX Mustang convertible and has for the past several years. He races 1/4 and auto x and has never had a problem. This was one of the reasons I decided on this package

Paid $200 earlier this week for this set; it appears to have dropped to $190 today. Just got the last PITA rotor off and everything back together. Since the seller doesn't provide a break-in procedure, can anyone recommend a good pad bedding procedure for zinc - plated rotors and ceramic pads? I see a country drive in my future tomorrow night...

[JBeezy]

After all the bedding I've been thru I'd say just drive it normally. I did the big brake mod to mine and no bedding this last time and they stop great. Until recently I thought bedding was a must. I now know better

[xopher]

After all the bedding I've been thru I'd say just drive it normally. I did the big brake mod to mine and no bedding this last time and they stop great. Until recently I thought bedding was a must. I now know better
Yeah, I remember on previous cars I've owned, I forgot to bed them in at all and they worked fine for years.

Later last night, I did find Powerstop's bedding procedure at http://www.powerstop.com/brake-pad-break-in-procedure/

5 moderate to aggressive stops from 40 mph down to 10 mph in rapid succession without letting the brakes cool and do not come to a complete stop. If you're forced to stop, either shift into neutral or give room in front so you can allow the vehicle to roll slightly while waiting for the light. The rotors will be very hot and holding down the brake pedal will allow the pad to create an imprint on the rotor. This is where the judder can originate from. Then do 5 moderate stops from 35 mph to 5 mph in rapid succession without letting the brakes cool. You should expect to smell some resin as the brakes get hot. After this is complete, drive around for as long as possible without excessively heating the brakes and without coming to a complete stop (Try for about 5 minutes at moderate speed). This is the cooling stage. It allows the heated resin in the brake pads to cool and cure. After the brakes have cooled to standard operating temperature, you may use the brakes normally.

I will just go for a drive in the country and brake from highway speed to rolling a few times, being careful not to come to a stop with hot pads, then cruise for a while longer.

[FavianHerrera]

I have a new in box rotor and pad set, never opened. Bought the big brake adapters and going larger. Anyone want to buy this? Will deal!
You still have these for sale Grant??[emoji2]

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[FavianHerrera]

Looking to buy this break setup ,anyone have a working link for it on ebay?? Cant seem to find it.

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