cold air intake from zeus performance?

[LVMarauder]

Look at this and let me know if you believe it is worth 15 horses.




http://www.zeusautomotive.com/ZEUS%20PARTS%20PAGES/AIR%20METER%20PARTS%20PAGE.htm (http://www.zeusautomotive.com/ZEUS%20PARTS%20PAGES/AIR%20METER%20PARTS%20PAGE.htm )

[jspradii]

Look at this and let me know if you believe it is worth 15 horses.




http://www.zeusautomotive.com/ZEUS%20PARTS%20PAGES/AIR%20METER%20PARTS%20PAGE.htm (http://www.zeusautomotive.com/ZEUS%20PARTS%20PAGES/AIR%20METER%20PARTS%20PAGE.htm )Pretty tall claim without any dyno numbers. What are they trying to get for this combo? Our MAFs are already pegging the volage limit as it is, has this got a larger MAF sensor? So many unanswered questions.....

[SergntMac]

Without a price, who can say if its worth it or not? Larger MAF aside, it's still sucking hot air from the engine compartment, and I'd guess you would have to include the cost of a dyno tune to take advantage of this upgrade. More 411 would produce a better answer.

[joflewbyu2]

I don't know how well it can be calibrated after seeing the oil cap breather in the last photo !?

[Marauderer]

It is just a Pro-M meter and cone. I can tell you that Lidio has seen about the same numbers on his car with the Pro-m. I just installed one too, but went with the shorty since I run a S/C. It is a little smoother and quieter, but you HAVE to build a box around it. For example, on a 30 degree day, I see a 6 degree difference in my IAT with and without the airbox I made. I can't imagine what it would be like without the airbox on an 80 degree day!

[O's Fan Rich]

the phrase "up to" in the ad.
I agree that as shown, it's sucking in some warm air.
I'll pass, thank you.

[woaface]

Light blue?:puke:

[FordNut]

Looks like a Pro-M with a bracket. The one you buy directly from Pro-flow has all the adapter fittings and the conical filter but doesn't come with a bracket. But if you're going to build a custom box anyway, why not incorporate the mounting into the box? Another thread which just started up on Pro-M MAFs is here:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8476

[jspradii]

Without a price, who can say if its worth it or not? Larger MAF aside, it's still sucking hot air from the engine compartment, and I'd guess you would have to include the cost of a dyno tune to take advantage of this upgrade. More 411 would produce a better answer.
I agree, unless it's pulling cold air in with some velocity, any gains are likely to be minimal, and not terribly consistent, depending on the atmospheric condiitons.

[Marauderer]

Agreed, it wouldn't really benefit an NA car especially for the 300.00 - 450.00 that it might cost. The Marauder airbox itself (not the MAF mind you) seems good to somewhere around 400 RWHP.

[Marauder57]

It looks cool...that is for sure...I would feel better if one of the vendors from our site came up with one that they dynoed....so we knew that it worked real well with our cars specifically.....

[Marauderer]

An 80mm Pro-m Shorty

[FordNut]

cold air intake from zeus performance?

Just realized what the title of the thread is. Nope, it's not a cold air kit. Just a MAF and conical filter, actually more of a "hot air kit" since it doesn't have any way to insulate engine compartment heat nor duct in cold outside air.

[junehhan]

I think i'll pass on this hot air intake as well. Without a box, or some sort of shielding that would help to isolate the filter from as much of the hot air as possible, I think such a setup would be useless and cause massive power loss if you idle a lot and drive during some of the worst traffic each day. I too would like to see a reputable vendor from this site design a good high flow intake setup preferably using an S&B conical filter(I don't like K&N's), that is protected by a box, or shield from the hot air in the engine compartment.

[RF Overlord]

I too would like to see a reputable vendor from this site design a good high flow intake setup...that is protected by a box, or shield from the hot air in the engine compartment.

This might be a good time to reiterate (not picking on june, just quoting her for an example):

It has been determined that the Marauder intake setup is one of the best-flowing intakes Ford has ever put on a car. Unless you're adding a blower/turbo/nitrous, there is no benefit to changing it...even the much loved/hated K&N has declined to build an FIPK for the car, certainly because of the limited appeal, but also because it won't IMPROVE anything...

[darebren]

Keep in mind that Zeus Auto is the one coming out with a new forced induction hood, and it might incorporate this air intake somehow...or be a good start...I'm waiting to see some results from Zeus, who I've called a couple times, they say the hood is coming soon...

[FordNut]

Keep in mind that Zeus Auto is the one coming out with a new forced induction hood, and it might incorporate this air intake somehow...or be a good start...I'm waiting to see some results from Zeus, who I've called a couple times, they say the hood is coming soon...
That would make sense. I've seen Lightnings with a scoop on the hood just above the box surrounding the open element filter. Maybe more scoop area and a duct system mounted to the underside of the hood similar to what ram air Mustangs used in about '71. And the whole hood made of fiberglass for weight reduction!

[Ross]

I just talked to the guy at Zeus. Seems like a nice guy and willing to answer questions. He said that he just delivered a kit to someone in Fayetteville, NC who he thinks is on this site, and the guy really likes the set up. Is this anyone here? He also told me that he really likes to only claim 7-12 RWHP with this kit, because a lot of people claim more HP than their stuff can really deliver. Cost is around $400.00 for the MAF, filter, bracket, etc.

[Fin Harder 92]

Ross,

That would be me. I am very pleased with the package. I have no idea what gains are to be attributed to the Pro-M MAF/Filter mod. I mainly did it to prepare for the S/C. I'm probably going to put a blower on the car this time next year.

As far as Zeus Performance, I have nothing but kind words for Mark Ray's quality work, customer service and general overall attitude when it comes to these cars. He will definitely be the one wrenching on my ride in the future

My one concern now is that I too have detonation at low speed in OD. I opted for the SCT. From the "pinging" thread I see I'm not the only one. I'm going to call Mark about it tomorrow.

Take Care

[MonsterD]

All the talk about building a box around the filter and cold air and the difference on an 80 degree day is sort of off the mark.
I have sold more intake kits than I can remember. I started making intake kits back in 97. My site is www.quickd.com. I beat K&N to the market by 8mos. I was the first to build a kit for the Dodge durango and dakota, then I started doing them for the Rams.
Over the course of time, I have dyno'd lots of trucks and met and talked with so many people. Back in the day, I met up with the owners and techs at Akimoto racing. They were going to build my pipes for me, but I ended up staying with my bender. Anyway, I origainally made a cold air box, but it didnt show any #s and it just whistled on the highway.
Akimoto was selling cold air boxes and shields.......they said it was just to be able to charge more. Even Kenne Bell had made a canister for their supercharged durangos, but when one of the guys told me that they took it out of the box when they dyno'd their trucks.

It seems that the gains are coming from the increase in volume rather than the temp. I know that on cold nights at the beach, the truck was a beast, but it still performed when driving through the desert at 117 degrees. I dont think anything is going to be a beast at that temp though.

Once the car is moving.....the air is moving through the engine compartment and over the tranny. The only time its taking in only engine hot air is when your standing still. There isnt any performance to measure when your stopped. Thats why they have those big huge fans in front of you at the dyno.

Last week I met the guys at AEM, they already make a kit for the lightening. I am going to get some of their maf mounts. I want to get a 4" tube bent and take it straight from the TB, and use their maf mount.
I dont have time to produce them, but hopefully once they see it, they can do it up nice and not charge too much.
I kind of felt honored that they had one of my pipes on the shelf.
I would love to get one of those supercharger pipes, but havent seen any of them for sell anywhere.

as far as the #s, I can believe 15hp at the rear...from a complete kit. But that filter looked a bit small, and I wouldnt want that flexible tube with all the ribs. It slows down the air. I want to use the stock maf sensor and just mount it straight to the pipe off the TB. On my dodge 5.9 kits we were seeing 15 from the intakes and 20 from the TBs.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Jim Gonzalez called me Thursday, I will be dyno testing some meters for ProAm, he sponsored me mine for my Marauder build up and my Mark 8