Homemade Centri Kits

[Blk04MM]

Google was not my friend so I ask here.

This question may have been asked but I got nothing.


SO, with all the homemade things around here being made from Eaton swaps to floating GH caps by these craftsmen who do great jobs I must say.
Has anyone done a homemade centri kit? Not homemade as in house supplies but made a kit such as Z has that turbo build. It should be only a 3 pipe system right?

From the numbers I've put together for parts this could be done for 2k ive even read mustang guys doing it for 1,200-1,500 if you search good enought with the unit itself being most costly.

Any reason why it's not a popular marauder thing?

[fastblackmerc]

Google was not my friend so I ask here.

This question may have been asked but I got nothing.


SO, with all the homemade things around here being made from Eaton swaps to floating GH caps by these craftsmen who do great jobs I must say.
Has anyone done a homemade centri kit? Not homemade as in house supplies but made a kit such as Z has that turbo build. It should be only a 3 pipe system right?

From the numbers I've put together for parts this could be done for 2k ive even read mustang guys doing it for 1,200-1,500 if you search good enought with the unit itself being most costly.

Any reason why it's not a popular marauder thing?
Not much clearance under the hood.

[Blk04MM]

Not much clearance under the hood.

The "kits" seem to fit just fine that cost 5k

[SC Cheesehead]

Not much clearance under the hood.


The "kits" seem to fit just fine that cost 5k

True, but some of that cost relates to the engineering and fabrication of those pipes. Like FBM said, pretty tight under there.

[Mike M]

Google was not my friend so I ask here.

This question may have been asked but I got nothing.


SO, with all the homemade things around here being made from Eaton swaps to floating GH caps by these craftsmen who do great jobs I must say.
Has anyone done a homemade centri kit? Not homemade as in house supplies but made a kit such as Z has that turbo build. It should be only a 3 pipe system right?

From the numbers I've put together for parts this could be done for 2k ive even read mustang guys doing it for 1,200-1,500 if you search good enought with the unit itself being most costly.

Any reason why it's not a popular marauder thing?

I have wondered the same thing myself, Procharger Mustangs are all over the place as well as Paxton/Vortech.
It looks pretty simple compared to the turbo systems.

[Blk04MM]

True, but some of that cost relates to the engineering and fabrication of those pipes. Like FBM said, pretty tight under there.

I know its a tight fit under the hood. but isn't it just a 3 piece pipe system that basically goes on the noes end of the car as appose to the turbo where u have to fab through the exhaust etc...


I know those kits that are fabricated are great quality from what I've seen but. Buying pipe having it bent etc can still com out pretty cost efficient or is there a special "material" the piping has to be?

[Blk04MM]

I have wondered the same thing myself, Procharger Mustangs are all over the place as well as Paxton/Vortech.
It looks pretty simple compared to the turbo systems.

Exactly what made me ask I've seen and read tons of those guys going that route. May not be super clean and showroom quality fab wise as the professional kits are but its efficient, no failures and RUNS flawless.

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

With no more trilogy kits, I will be looking into a centri custom setup when the time comes. I figure there's tons of mustangs running them, somethings gotta work on our cars.

[justbob]

When considering anything custom, if you can't do it nearly 100% yourself, then leave words such as cheap out of the equation and be prepared to establish a real budget to work with.

You will find that almost anyone who does their own work leaves out small details that they see as common sense expenditures, parts or tools needed, that will come back to bite you when your budget is blown and your car is in pieces. People, myself included, who don't think twice about fabricating have hit these walls in our early days still hit these walls, but live for the challenge.

I say start gathering parts on the cheap when they come up for sale. Having a couple grand in parts waiting to make work is usually a good motivator. If you give up realizing you need an additional multi thousand dollar set of tools, or farming out some of the work isn't practical, you have the option of selling them off if you didn't overpay.

Also, don't forget the nickel and dime stuff like bigger MAF, MAFia, injectors, fuel pump, BAP, exhaust, CAI, needed pulleys, inter cooling, band clamps, tune, brackets, special bolts, basically all the supporting mods you probably don't consider. Hell, just a small bottle of loctite is $24.00!!!

Just be realistic, a S/C, and buying pipe sections is the easiest part there is. I say go for it!


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[cougar9150]

I have been working on my own blow-thru Procharger kit for nearly 2 years (home/auto repairs and a career change are the only reasons it has taken this long) and I'm nearly 2k in without pipes or an intercooler.

I already have the headunit, bracket and the majority of the supporting equipment that was mentioned by justbob. My main items that are left are the IC, blow off valve, SC pulley, and pipes. I When all is said and done I'm expecting my materials alone to cost me between $3000-3500. I have been picking used stuff up at great prices by shopping misc forums and ebay to catch deals same as the Eaton swap guys do but it's not a $1500 project especially is you don't want crappy parts cobbled together. Just the headunit was $1000 and that was a steal for what I got, and I can't weld so i won't be making my own pipes.

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[Blk04MM]

When considering anything custom, if you can't do it nearly 100% yourself, then leave words such as cheap out of the equation and be prepared to establish a real budget to work with.

You will find that almost anyone who does their own work leaves out small details that they see as common sense expenditures, parts or tools needed, that will come back to bite you when your budget is blown and your car is in pieces. People, myself included, who don't think twice about fabricating have hit these walls in our early days still hit these walls, but live for the challenge.

I say start gathering parts on the cheap when they come up for sale. Having a couple grand in parts waiting to make work is usually a good motivator. If you give up realizing you need an additional multi thousand dollar set of tools, or farming out some of the work isn't practical, you have the option of selling them off if you didn't overpay.

Also, don't forget the nickel and dime stuff like bigger MAF, MAFia, injectors, fuel pump, BAP, exhaust, CAI, needed pulleys, inter cooling, band clamps, tune, brackets, special bolts, basically all the supporting mods you probably don't consider. Hell, just a small bottle of loctite is $24.00!!!

Just be realistic, a S/C, and buying pipe sections is the easiest part there is. I say go for it!


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I definitely get where you're coming from. I didn't mean do a overnight kit but as you stated gather parts as one comes across them INCLUDING the little ends and outs to make the kit complete.

What's the big difference in air to air & water to air ??

[Blk04MM]

I have been working on my own blow-thru Procharger kit for nearly 2 years (home/auto repairs and a career change are the only reasons it has taken this long) and I'm nearly 2k in without pipes or an intercooler.

I already have the headunit, bracket and the majority of the supporting equipment that was mentioned by justbob. My main items that are left are the IC, blow off valve, SC pulley, and pipes. I When all is said and done I'm expecting my materials alone to cost me between $3000-3500. I have been picking used stuff up at great prices by shopping misc forums and ebay to catch deals same as the Eaton swap guys do but it's not a $1500 project especially is you don't want crappy parts cobbled together. Just the headunit was $1000 and that was a steal for what I got, and I can't weld so i won't be making my own pipes.

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What's your goal power wise?

[cougar9150]

What's your goal power wise?

To start around 430-450 to the wheels, long term after I get a motor built 530+ on a street tune and up to 600 racing. I plan on adding a wastegate and boost controller after the motor is built so I can throw a smaller pulley on to spool the Centri up quicker and bleed off the some of the boost while on the street. I've seen several guys do this with ProCharger setups on other sites. Basically a flip of a switch and you got more boost and you can set it up to produce higher boost at a lower rpm basically almost giving you a nearly roots style blower power band when the wastgate is open.

I have basically tracked everthing I've done to my car and parts purchased on a spreadsheet and would be more than happy to share it with you. PM me your email and I can shoot it to you in the next few days.

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[MOTOWN]

Hmmm a homemade centri kit? anything is possible if you have the skills/money to make it a reallity!
I tend to get a bit carried away anytime i mod anything! a centri kit is very simple as long as you do your research, as mentioned "cheap" and modding a Marauder just dont belong in the same sentence, im at the nickel and dime stage of finishing up my home grown centri build, i can tell you without a doubt you wont build it cheap as the intercooler pipes alone will set you back a bit.

Im wayy over my initial budget, but hey its what i love to do!

[CWright]

Hmmm a homemade centri kit? anything is possible if you have the skills/money to make it a reallity!
I tend to get a bit carried away anytime i mod anything! a centri kit is very simple as long as you do your research, as mentioned "cheap" and modding a Marauder just dont belong in the same sentence, im at the nickel and dime stage of finishing up my home grown centri build, i can tell you without a doubt you wont build it cheap as the intercooler pipes alone will set you back a bit.

Im wayy over my initial budget, but hey its what i love to do!


All of this is 100% ACCURATE!!!!!!!!:beer:

My problem is I get carried away too! :D

[sailsmen]

............What's the big difference in air to air & water to air ??

I have had both. With Air to Air you never run out of air. No heat exchanger, no reservoir, no coolant hoses/fittings and no pump to fail.

[Blk04MM]

To start around 430-450 to the wheels, long term after I get a motor built 530+ on a street tune and up to 600 racing. I plan on adding a wastegate and boost controller after the motor is built so I can throw a smaller pulley on to spool the Centri up quicker and bleed off the some of the boost while on the street. I've seen several guys do this with ProCharger setups on other sites. Basically a flip of a switch and you got more boost and you can set it up to produce higher boost at a lower rpm basically almost giving you a nearly roots style blower power band when the wastgate is open.

I have basically tracked everthing I've done to my car and parts purchased on a spreadsheet and would be more than happy to share it with you. PM me your email and I can shoot it to you in the next few days.

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Yeah same here. Just looking to break into 400rwhp nothing crazy at all until later when motor gets built and trans. I'll PM my email. Thanks


Hmmm a homemade centri kit? anything is possible if you have the skills/money to make it a reallity!
I tend to get a bit carried away anytime i mod anything! a centri kit is very simple as long as you do your research, as mentioned "cheap" and modding a Marauder just dont belong in the same sentence, im at the nickel and dime stage of finishing up my home grown centri build, i can tell you without a doubt you wont build it cheap as the intercooler pipes alone will set you back a bit.

Im wayy over my initial budget, but hey its what i love to do!

I know "cheap" is a word that's definitely ran over when modding. That's the beauty of modding if you're doing the work. You get into it and say F the budget you're building. Then you appreciate it and its more then just a SC car. It's one YOU built.


I have had both. With Air to Air you never run out of air. No heat exchanger, no reservoir, no coolant hoses/fittings and no pump to fail.

Sounds like the route I'll be looking into

[Blk04MM]

There are all types of SC units out there V1 etc.

What's a good one?
And particular one to "stay away from"?

[LANDY]

I have a line on the centri air to air pipes for $1k if anyone is interested.

[cougar9150]

I have a line on the centri air to air pipes for $1k if anyone is interested.

You know I will be in a couple months.

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[Blk04MM]

I have a line on the centri air to air pipes for $1k if anyone is interested.

PM sent........

[Blk04MM]

There are all types of SC units out there V1 etc.

What's a good one?
And particular one to "stay away from"?

NOT MINE** found the pic online just wanted to show an exact sample of one I'm asking about!

Will a V1 S-Trim as such work on the Marauder?

http://i45.tinypic.com/xmpsmr.jpg

[MOTOWN]

NOT MINE** found the pic online just wanted to show an exact sample of one I'm asking about!

Will a V1 S-Trim as such work on the Marauder?

http://i45.tinypic.com/xmpsmr.jpg

I think your main focus should be what your true goals are for the car? Most Vortechs will physically fit the car, but how do you want it to perform?

Where do you want your powerband?

[Blk04MM]

I think your main focus should be what your true goals are for the car? Most Vortechs will physically fit the car, but how do you want it to perform?

Where do you want your powerband?

Not too sure. Don't really know these blowers. Just building knowledge as I come across things such as this blower.
Far as the car it'll be just a street spirited driven car, No track if I put a blower on it. What's this blower here good for?

[MOTOWN]

Not too sure. Don't really know these blowers. Just building knowledge as I come across things such as this blower.
Far as the car it'll be just a street spirited driven car, No track if I put a blower on it. What's this blower here good for?

Go to Vortechs web Site and read up on the differences between their blowers, they tell you which ones work best on the 4.6dohc motors

Talk to a tech at Vortech, but first you need to figure out what you want out of your blower then make an informed decision!
Research is key

[Blk04MM]

Go to Vortechs web Site and read up on the differences between their blowers, they tell you which ones work best on the 4.6dohc motors

Talk to a tech at Vortech, but first you need to figure out what you want out of your blower then make an informed decision!
Research is key

I've looked on the net and their site. Got no understanding that's why I came here so someone could help a bit more

[camelgrundle]

I got the novi 1200. With 410 gears and stall converter it will be a fun street car. Always more potential as well with different pullies. But call vortech and they are very helpful on the phone and will mail u a nice catalog.

[Pat]

I find this thread very interesting, but the word "cheap" is relative. I have a Kit from DR that he marketed for folks like me who were looking for a major power gain but couldn't spring for the cost of a trilogy kit. I am not a "do-it yourself" person.

He developed the Paxton Novi, non intercooled kit (self oiler), for $3900.00. This kit was complete with piping, mounting hardware, fuel pump, MAF, 39# injectors, BOV and custom cold air box. A turn key kit, everything you need, nothing you don't, as the commercial goes.

Because my goals were not competitive drag racing, but a better street performer the price and equipment were just right for me. Before the installation the car made 245 HP at the rear wheels. After the installation the car made 400 HP at the rear wheels with a safe tune.

The cost of intercooling is very high, up to $1500 more for an increase of 24 HP (Vortec figures).

DR's cost of installation and tune was very reasonable.

I don't know if DR still markets the NONIC kit but his website still shows the intercooled version for $5300.

The performance is very good especially with the 4:10s and 3500 stall speed converter. If I want to drag race I have a 50 shot Zex wet system to cool the air charge. Heh, Heh, Heh. (poor mans intercooler). It does get hot down here, 110 plus in the summer.

The biggest limiting factor for more horsepower, 400 plus range, is the exhaust system.
That's according to the head tuner at HPP racing in Dallas, Texas. But my needs are met without any more investment.

Being NONIC supercharged is one of the best mods, cost and performance, decisions I've made with the Marauder. DR's product support has also aided in enjoying my purchase.

Regards,

Pat

[sailsmen]

There are several dozen Intercooled MM with a conservative tune at 450RWHP and stock exhaust.
The most HP for the dollar is Nitrous.