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L.Mark
02-28-2013, 12:30 AM
My Engine light came on yesterday. I had no problems with the car until tonight on the way home. I started her at work to let her warm up, came out and she had died. Died also coming to a stop at Kroger and again at a red light about a minute later. Each time was off the gas and idling to a stop. Also seems to lurch alittle at times when taking off, and kinda hiccups when coming to a stop at times. Mike said to take it to Auto Zone to get any codes she's throwing which I'm doing tomorrow. But thought I would post to see if anybody had suggestions.:help:

CBT
02-28-2013, 04:25 AM
My check engine light has never come on, and the only time the car ever failed to start was due to dead batteries (2), but the bucking and rough launch could be dirty MAF, bad COP, gummed up throttle body, whens the last time to cleaned any of them? I'd say let them plug in and see what codes it shows since your light came on. Probably the fastest way to figure it out if time is against you.

Mebot
02-28-2013, 05:12 AM
how many miles on the car? could be the COPS

Sent from my handheld Zack Morris iShoe 4S.

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 11:00 AM
code is P0119 Air Intake Sensor...Anybody know where that is, can I replace it and how much???

martyo
02-28-2013, 11:09 AM
code is P0119 Air Intake Sensor...Anybody know where that is, can I replace it and how much???

IIRC they are pretty pricey - like $125 or so at the dealer.

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 11:11 AM
Getting a price now for one, would you have any and is it ok to drive the car with it bad?

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 11:32 AM
p0113 code sorry wrong

MM2004
02-28-2013, 11:39 AM
p0113 code sorry wrong

Aren't you glad I called you Bill?

:D

Here ->

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75599&highlight=P0113

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72309&highlight=P0113

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=15425&highlight=P0113

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23043&highlight=P0113

;)

Mike.

martyo
02-28-2013, 11:45 AM
Getting a price now for one, would you have any and is it ok to drive the car with it bad?

I can get one instantly from our Ford supply so we don't stock them.

You can drive it but I wouldn't beat on teh car.

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 11:49 AM
Yes!!! Tri-County was a dead end. One of the posts said there is a sensor inside the intake tube...before I start does anyone know about where??

CBT
02-28-2013, 11:51 AM
Yes!!! Tri-County was a dead end. One of the posts said there is a sensor inside the intake tube...before I start does anyone know about where??

That would be your MAF......

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 11:51 AM
I can get one instantly from our Ford supply so we don't stock them.

You can drive it but I wouldn't beat on teh car.

How much for the Intake Air Temp Sensor from your supplier cause no ford dealer here can locate the write part.

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 11:52 AM
That would be your MAF......
So could I just replace MAF sensor and all is well???:D

CBT
02-28-2013, 11:54 AM
So could I just replace MAF sensor and all is well???:D
Pull it out and spray the shite out of it and the connector plug with MAF cleaner.

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 11:57 AM
Anything I can use instead of MAF cleaner????WD40 fixes erething;)

CBT
02-28-2013, 11:59 AM
Anything I can use instead of MAF cleaner????WD40 fixes erething;)

I do not recommend spraying the air meter with an oily coating of WD-40, but it's so crazy it just might work, lol. :beer:

CBT
02-28-2013, 12:01 PM
Acetone should work as a substitute. Mebbe rubbing alcohol. Whatever will strip away the crud and dissipate into thin air.

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 12:01 PM
I'm pressed for time cause of work...so I took off the connector and kinda blew in it gonna try it now...and thats not what she said...:P

CBT
02-28-2013, 12:05 PM
I'm pressed for time cause of work...so I took off the connector and kinda blew in it gonna try it now...and thats not what she said...:P
Well that used to work with Atari game cartridges, you may be onto something.

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 12:07 PM
nope, didn't work. maybe I need a blowing expert!!

MM2004
02-28-2013, 12:11 PM
nope, didn't work. maybe I need a blowing expert!!

Bill,

Drive past Auto Zone on your way to work, and get a can of MAF cleaner.

Cheapest thing to start with.

Spray the MAF while on one of your breaks, or sneak out and do it when your boss isn't looking.

:D

Mike.

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 12:14 PM
Good call...

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 12:16 PM
if both are attched can I replace tha MAF and be done with it???

CBT
02-28-2013, 12:21 PM
if both are attched can I replace tha MAF and be done with it???

You'll need a torx-head socket set to get that MAF off. Don't smoke when you start spraying the cleaner, you'll get a VERY close shave.....

DOOM
02-28-2013, 12:25 PM
You're complicating things.

Maf cleaner is less than 10 bucks.

Buy a can, spray the Maf and done!

Less than a 5min. process.

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 01:22 PM
Bought the cleaner but still wanted a backup because if my luck holds the cleaner won't work.:shake: I sprayed the connectors when I got to work, didn't get here in time do the whole cleaning...can't do the rest till after work. Jobs pretty strick about working on cars at work. Thanks for the help, got my fingers crossed it's an easy fix...Will post results.

fastblackmerc
02-28-2013, 01:52 PM
Bought the cleaner but still wanted a backup because if my luck holds the cleaner won't work.:shake: I sprayed the connectors when I got to work, didn't get here in time do the whole cleaning...can't do the rest till after work. Jobs pretty strick about working on cars at work. Thanks for the help, got my fingers crossed it's an easy fix...Will post results.

Spraying the connectors won't do anything to fix the problem..... You have to clean INSIDE the MAF, I'd clean the IAC and TB while you are at it. Should take all of 30 minutes.

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 02:54 PM
OK, the ICA is connected to the MAF correct? Will I know IAC visually when I take out the MAF? And the TB is Throttle Body. Will the MAF cleaner work on the TB or do I need TB cleaner???

fastblackmerc
02-28-2013, 03:14 PM
OK, the ICA is connected to the MAF correct? Will I know IAC visually when I take out the MAF? And the TB is Throttle Body. Will the MAF cleaner work on the TB or do I need TB cleaner???

You'll hear guys saying they use x cleaner to clean the parts..... Use a cleaner specifically for the part. If you don't you have have a worse problem than when you started and might have to replace parts.

The IAC (Idle Air Control) is attached to the side of the TB. Be careful removing it as the gasket is very thin.

MAF - get cleaner specifically for cleaning the MAF. You do not want to use any cleaner that will leave any residue on the MAF. Don't scrub the parts; you may break the wire or damage the plate.

IAC - carb cleaner

Throttle body - get cleaner specifically for cleaning the TB. From Popular Mechanics - "Some throttle body bores have a coating to reduce the buildup, but, in time, bores with protective coats can be affected. There are several ways to clean out the area. The best is with a professional tool called the Intake Snake, which comes with an effective yet safe solvent, and the simplest is with an old worn-out toothbrush with soft bristles and a mild solvent.

There are three reasons why you have to be careful, both in choice of solvent and in application: First, if the throttle body has a protective coating (as on many Ford products) to reduce the buildup, a strong solvent and hard brushing will remove it, so you'd have to do the job more often. If you see a warning label on a Ford product, that's why.

Second, there may be a sensor tip projecting into a small opening in the area of the throttle plate, and a strong solvent or hard brushing might damage it. In addition, a sensor O-ring seal may be damaged by a strong solvent.

Third, the throttle plate shaft is sealed at the mounting holes in the throttle body to prevent entry of unmeasured air (which would upset the fuel mixture). A strong solvent (and hard brushing) could damage the seals."

All the cleaners can be obtained from any FLAPS.

You can find many how-to's with a google search

CBT
02-28-2013, 03:16 PM
OK, the ICA is connected to the MAF correct? Will I know IAC visually when I take out the MAF? And the TB is Throttle Body. Will the MAF cleaner work on the TB or do I need TB cleaner???

Where do you live?

DOOM
02-28-2013, 03:19 PM
Where do you live?

He's in Kentucky! Very close to Mike!

CBT
02-28-2013, 03:20 PM
He's in Kentucky! Very close to Mike!
Well hell, screw all this typing, get together with someone near you and see all this parts cleaning and where is this part located in REAL TIME, lol. :beer:

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 03:25 PM
Thought about that but Mike was at work, and I had to leave for work...The IAC sensor is on the throttlebody not connected to the MAF which is mid way down the intake tube correct. Why can't Ford locate the part number for the IAC if it's separate. Or am I just confused???

CBT
02-28-2013, 03:33 PM
Thought about that but Mike was at work, and I had to leave for work...The IAC sensor is on the throttlebody not connected to the MAF which is mid way down the intake tube correct. Why can't Ford locate the part number for the IAC if it's separate. Or am I just confused???

Hang on a sec, here's a pic of what you are looking for....

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MAF on the right, IAC in the middle, and on the left is PCV. Unhook them all, blast them with cleaner, re-install.

*edit* I forgot to make an arrow pointing to the unhooked positive cable. Unhook them *****, lol.

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 03:49 PM
Nice...I was thinking the IAC might be the blk connector on the TB. Thanks for all the help...gonna do it when I get home and hope it solves the problem.

DOOM
02-28-2013, 03:50 PM
This is your IAC!

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/DOOMIE/5D159050-5034-4924-877A-56170CE4C62E-391-000000DE1CA135D0_zpsf5ca441a.j pg

CBT
02-28-2013, 03:54 PM
You bastid, lol! Just haaaaaaaaad to out do my pic, I see how it is. :beer:



This is your IAC!

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/DOOMIE/5D159050-5034-4924-877A-56170CE4C62E-391-000000DE1CA135D0_zpsf5ca441a.j pg

CBT
02-28-2013, 03:56 PM
Nice...I was thinking the IAC might be the blk connector on the TB. Thanks for all the help...gonna do it when I get home and hope it solves the problem.

Nope, but you can unhook that connector and leave that on the throttle body when you remove the throttle body for cleaning, it won't hurt it to leave it on there.

DOOM
02-28-2013, 04:06 PM
You bastid, lol! Just haaaaaaaaad to out do my pic, I see how it is. :beer:


I did that just for you! :lol:

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 04:14 PM
I'll take the chrome one for $200 Alex...

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 04:18 PM
Just one question...in the shop manual on lince from AZ, it says the IAC is "integrated into the MAF...". And the IAC is the same as the IAT correct??

CBT
02-28-2013, 04:23 PM
Just one question...in the shop manual on lince from AZ, it says the IAC is "integrated into the MAF...". And the IAC is the same as the IAT correct??

Negs, throw out whatever book you read that from.

L.Mark
02-28-2013, 04:30 PM
found it online...I don't normally trust what AZ says since I've looked up several things and found they were wrong...

L.Mark
03-03-2013, 11:12 PM
Trying the cleaner again and have a MAF ordered.