What a shock !!!!

[cruzer]

Just got a call from my dealer, small water pump LEAK---fleet discount estimate $ 980 -------- is this true ?????? Pump output good---- any advice on this-- going on trip in 2 weeks--can't leave with a leak--what do you think---Marty O ---help Maury:bigcry:

[Motorhead350]

Do it yourself for $12 if it's the gasket. If not, go somewhere else. Did they said what needed to be replaced?

[martyo]

Just got a call from my dealer, small water pump LEAK---fleet discount estimate $ 980 -------- is this true ?????? Pump output good---- any advice on this-- going on trip in 2 weeks--can't leave with a leak--what do you think---Marty O ---help Maury:bigcry:

That's a chunk o' change!

Pump price $90 plus about an hour's labor.

Run, don't walk away from that stealership!

[cruzer]

You are a true friend--I couldn't believe it--somethingf about having to pull the front off the engine ( fan , etc ) lots of labor !!!! they have given me fleet rates for over 6 years--don't know what happened here---will keep you advised--on my way there in 30 minutes--hope to see you soon, Maury:):burnout:

[Motorhead350]

I guess I am on your ignore list.

[lji372]

Did someone say something .....crickets...:lol:

[cruzer]

:bows::bows: I wasn't ignoring you----was in a Big hurry. I appreciate the advice---I don't have anyone on my ignore list---wish you luck in Nashville,, Maury

[cruzer]

picked up the Marauder--had an oil leak at the oil filter adapter---told them to take care of it---well they did---
Labor $406.82
Gasket 20.57
Adapter / oil filter 200.46
Total $627.00

and I didn't even get a kiss !!!!!
They said the water pump was leaking thru the weep hole ????? $980 to repair---there goes my trip to Louisville ---- was to be my surprise to me. Oh well--nobody said life would be easy. I still wouldn't give up my Marauder if I never have another vacation---well, at least the weather is great down here--now all I have to do is find a good mechanic within 50 miles. Thanks, Maury:help:

[Spectragod]

For that money, I'll drive to your house (from Ohio), buy the parts, change the pump, belts, oil & filter. There may even be enough to do a wash and wax on the car for you.:D

[fastblackmerc]

You can easily change the water pump yourself. Will take about 1 hour including a burp.

[martyo]

picked up the Marauder--had an oil leak at the oil filter adapter---told them to take care of it---well they did---
Labor $406.82
Gasket 20.57
Adapter / oil filter 200.46
Total $627.00

and I didn't even get a kiss !!!!!
They said the water pump was leaking thru the weep hole ????? $980 to repair---there goes my trip to Louisville ---- was to be my surprise to me. Oh well--nobody said life would be easy. I still wouldn't give up my Marauder if I never have another vacation---well, at least the weather is great down here--now all I have to do is find a good mechanic within 50 miles. Thanks, Maury:help:

Maury based on your break down it looks like they also changed the oil filter adapter. Is that correct?

This is one more reason for you to come visit your "nephew" in Georgia!!! :D

And look at it this way, it's only money and if money can fix it it is not a real problem! I miss you!

[cruzer]

They changed the adapter ----- I really miss when I could crawl under the car and see and fix things myself-- I just checked the SVT web site and they have some local independants I'm going to check out. I have been under warantee for so long I forgot about the "real charges---learned my lesson. Thanks a lot everybody--I'll keep you posted. A tired, disgusted old man, Maury

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Hey gang...let's take up a collection to help Maury get to Looseville!! Whaddya say? $10 from 100 members outta do it...I'm in for $10....

[MyBlackBeasts]

Hey gang...let's take up a collection to help Maury get to Looseville!! Whaddya say? $10 from 100 members outta do it...I'm in for $10....

That & we can change the WP in the lot for him.

$980 is absolutely disgusting! $50/$75 part & an hour to back on the road.

Shame on them for ripping people off that bad!!! :mad2:

[cruzer]

I was just feeling sorry for myself and feeling bad about being taken of by someone who had been a good friend for over 5 years---new management--new pressures on the staff. I really appreciate the love shown--if I can get my daughters to cooperate, I'll try to make it. Ginny has been slowly developing dementia and cannot be left alone overnite--has to have her meds given and wakes up at night confused--after 60 wonderful years when she gave up a lot to make it possible for me to fly and drive all over the country and stayed home with the kids, I can't just pack up and go. It's in the plans til the last minute--but if I can't do something about the water leak ???????????:confused: Thanks for the happy thoughts--you are a great bunch--was looking forward to meeting a lot of new friends . I went to the University of Louisville for 4 years and our first child was born there--lots of memories. Got my fingers crossed--Drive Safely---but with GUSTO !!!!!!!:burnout: Maury

[Mr. Man]

For that money, I'll drive to your house (from Ohio), buy the parts, change the pump, belts, oil & filter. There may even be enough to do a wash and wax on the car for you.:D
Payment in donuts and stale coffee :P

[LostInTennessee]

Hang in there man! You will be rewarded...

[Mike M]

Get a copy of the estimate and post it up here, I need to learn what type of witchcraft they practice.

[martyo]

I was just feeling sorry for myself and feeling bad about being taken of by someone who had been a good friend for over 5 years---new management--new pressures on the staff. I really appreciate the love shown--if I can get my daughters to cooperate, I'll try to make it. Ginny has been slowly developing dementia and cannot be left alone overnite--has to have her meds given and wakes up at night confused--after 60 wonderful years when she gave up a lot to make it possible for me to fly and drive all over the country and stayed home with the kids, I can't just pack up and go. It's in the plans til the last minute--but if I can't do something about the water leak ???????????:confused: Thanks for the happy thoughts--you are a great bunch--was looking forward to meeting a lot of new friends . I went to the University of Louisville for 4 years and our first child was born there--lots of memories. Got my fingers crossed--Drive Safely---but with GUSTO !!!!!!!:burnout: Maury

This ^^^^ is why I befriended Uncle Maury ten years ago! :beer:

[J-MAN]

Our prayers are with you Maury. Bless the Caregivers and give them strength.

[Motorhead350]

Understood on limited time.

All time is limited.

[burt ragio]

You can easily change the water pump yourself. Will take about 1 hour including a burp.

I agree changing the water pump isn't rocket science you can do it blind folded. What the name of this wonderful stealership ?

[GAMike]

There is honor and humility in your words Maury... I don't know you from Boo, but I respect your dedication/devotion to the important things in your life. Hoping good Karma comes around for a visit with you soon. If anyone deserves it, you do.:o



I was just feeling sorry for myself and feeling bad about being taken of by someone who had been a good friend for over 5 years---new management--new pressures on the staff. I really appreciate the love shown--if I can get my daughters to cooperate, I'll try to make it. Ginny has been slowly developing dementia and cannot be left alone overnite--has to have her meds given and wakes up at night confused--after 60 wonderful years when she gave up a lot to make it possible for me to fly and drive all over the country and stayed home with the kids, I can't just pack up and go. It's in the plans til the last minute--but if I can't do something about the water leak ???????????:confused: Thanks for the happy thoughts--you are a great bunch--was looking forward to meeting a lot of new friends . I went to the University of Louisville for 4 years and our first child was born there--lots of memories. Got my fingers crossed--Drive Safely---but with GUSTO !!!!!!!:burnout: Maury

[babbage]

The EMP Stuart pump is better and it's only $150 I think. That's the one I'd replace it with. Summit Racing has them.

[RF Overlord]

Maury, it's been WAY too long...MVII, I think. I hope you're able to make it to KY this year.

As for the water pump, like they all said, any half competent garage can change it...no special tools or tricks needed. Stay way far away from that dealership!

Just so you don't feel TOO bad about the oil filter adapter thing, this just happened to me 2 weeks ago:

Company van, 2001 GMC Safari. Ran perfectly on Saturday, wouldn't start on Monday morning. Called fleet services and they had to towed to a dealer. Took almost a week to get it back and this is what they found:

Bad #6 fuel injector, so they replaced them all.
Fixed a few cracked vacuum hoses.
Oil & filter change
New spark plugs, wires, cap, and rotor.
Replaced the fuel level sending unit.

When I got it back, the heat and the interior lights no longer worked.

Want to know what it cost?

$2288.36

Now THAT'S a ripoff. Dick Beard Chevrolet/Subaru in Hyannis most definitely deserves the term "stealership".

[cat in the hat]

Maury, it's been WAY too long...MVII, I think. I hope you're able to make it to KY this year.

As for the water pump, like they all said, any half competent garage can change it...no special tools or tricks needed. Stay way far away from that dealership!

Just so you don't feel TOO bad about the oil filter adapter thing, this just happened to me 2 weeks ago:

Company van, 2001 GMC Safari. Ran perfectly on Saturday, wouldn't start on Monday morning. Called fleet services and they had to towed to a dealer. Took almost a week to get it back and this is what they found:

Bad #6 fuel injector, so they replaced them all.
Fixed a few cracked vacuum hoses.
Oil & filter change
New spark plugs, wires, cap, and rotor.
Replaced the fuel level sending unit.

When I got it back, the heat and the interior lights no longer worked.

Want to know what it cost?

$2288.36

Now THAT'S a ripoff. Dick Beard Chevrolet/Subaru in Hyannis most definitely deserves the term "stealership".


Wow, and I thought this was bad :

I dropped off a leased work car this past Tuesday for state inspection only.
The girl said it would be about 45 minutes.

Two hours later, she calls up and says "It's done, you can pick it up. You should think about getting two new tires, it almost didn't pass."

I said "I'd have to get that approved by the leasing company; if it passed and it's done, I just want to pick it up."

She says "Yes, it passed, you can pick it up now."

On the way to pick it up, a guy calls me - the "Service Manager." He says "The leasing company approved two new tires and the brakes, it will be ready in an hour."

I said "What ? The girl told me it passed and I could pick i up, I'm on the way there right now. Why would they do that ?"

He says "It didn't pass, it failed. I called the leaseing company and they approved the tires and brakes. You would have had a blowout with those tires. The girl who called you is new here."

Two - three hours later they called back and said it was done.
When I got there I said "I'm not going to make a big deal about this because it's not my car, but I want to talk to the "Service Manager" and I want to see the tires. It looks to me like you people plowed about $600 worth of extra work into this bill."

Well, of course I was told that the "Service Manager" wasn't there and the tires were already disposed of.
I told them that in the future, even if I broke down in their parking lot, I'd be taking it somewhere else.

Final bill : over $800. Pep Boys, Bustleton Av., Phila. PA

If I had been sitting in the waiting area getting strung along for the whole five hours, well . . . :mad2:

[Cheeseheadbob]

+ 1,000,000,000 on this one!
Get a copy of the estimate and post it up here, I need to learn what type of witchcraft they practice.

[Spectragod]

Payment in donuts and stale coffee :P

Uhhhmmmm, no, I don't work for the same wages as you.:P :D

[cj7chris]

Maury -- If you need a hand turning a wrench, I'm sure we can round up a few local DFW'ers to swap a pump, gasket or both pretty easy. Let me know......

[CBT]

Maury -- If you need a hand turning a wrench, I'm sure we can round up a few local DFW'ers to swap a pump, gasket or both pretty easy. Let me know......

That's what I'm talking about, that's what this place is really for. :beer:

[Mr. Man]

Uhhhmmmm, no, I don't work for the same wages as you.:P :D
So off 'The Job' you work for cash only huh? ;)

[Blackened300a]

You are a true friend--I couldn't believe it--somethingf about having to pull the front off the engine ( fan , etc ) lots of labor !!!! they have given me fleet rates for over 6 years--don't know what happened here---will keep you advised--on my way there in 30 minutes--hope to see you soon, Maury:):burnout:

$980??? :eek::eek::eek: I think I charged a fellow member $125 to install it. Plus no gaskets involved, just a O ring. The fan has to come out which is a whole 4 bolts and 5 minutes, then remove the belt and the water pump pulley. Its 4 bolts and the pump is in your hands. replace, tighten, and put the fan back in. replace the coolant and burp the system. Less then a hour to complete. Burping the system is the longest part.
Please post the bill, I'm curious to see what BS they added to it.

Here's the install thread of the EMP pump which costs more then a stock one and still beats the $980 they quoted you by $730.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=35360&highlight=emp+waterpump

[1stMerc]

picked up the Marauder--had an oil leak at the oil filter adapter---told them to take care of it---well they did---
Labor $406.82
Gasket 20.57
Adapter / oil filter 200.46
Total $627.00

and I didn't even get a kiss !!!!!
They said the water pump was leaking thru the weep hole ????? $980 to repair---there goes my trip to Louisville ---- was to be my surprise to me. Oh well--nobody said life would be easy. I still wouldn't give up my Marauder if I never have another vacation---well, at least the weather is great down here--now all I have to do is find a good mechanic within 50 miles. Thanks, Maury:help:

:eek: Couple of weeks ago i was at dealers and was told my oil adapter gasket was leaking a wee bit. Didn't have them replace it since i was just 100 miles into a Royal Purple (stuff ain't cheap) oil change. At that price they won't be doing it. On my list of things to do this spring.

Thanks for the heads up.

[IwantmyMMnow!]

picked up the Marauder--had an oil leak at the oil filter adapter---told them to take care of it---well they did---
Labor $406.82
Gasket 20.57
Adapter / oil filter 200.46
Total $627.00



I wouldn't ever take my car back there again, Maury. I had the same thing fixed on mine a year ago and my bill was only $250...something ain't right at that place!

After you have a couple of them Texan MMers come over and replace your water pump, you can drive your MM to that stealership and tell them to suck it and do a burnout in their garage bay.

Then you can come to Looseville and tell us how it felt...

[cruzer]

Maury -- If you need a hand turning a wrench, I'm sure we can round up a few local DFW'ers to swap a pump, gasket or both pretty easy. Let me know......

As luck would have it, we had breakfast with an old friend who told us that the Service Manager and his top mechanic had leased a part of the family Mercury dealership when it closed and set up shop as independents. They serviced the Marauder from the day I bought it. Stopped in to see him and he is installing the water pump on Monday at a MUCH more reasonable price. The cost will depend on which pump we decide to use. He said in all his 20 years servicing Mercurys, he had never had to replace an oil filter adapter--just the $ 22 dollar gaskets. I'll keep you posted. Chris, thanks for the offer to help--my garage is too small and a sloping ramp is the only work area--all my tools are in storage as well as my hydraulic jack---primitive working conditions to say the least. I may take you up on your in the future--coming up on 150,000 miles, more things will probably go wrong. Now, at least I have an honest garage to go to . Things are looking up for the L'ville trip---will know definitely on Sunday when we have a big family get together. A big THANKS for all the posts ---I really appreciate it. It's getting late, so I'll sign off for the night Maury

[Ozark Marauder]

picked up the Marauder--had an oil leak at the oil filter adapter---told them to take care of it---well they did---
Labor $406.82
Gasket 20.57
Adapter / oil filter 200.46
Total $627.00

and I didn't even get a kiss !!!!!
:help:


I wouldn't ever take my car back there again, Maury. I had the same thing fixed on mine a year ago and my bill was only $250...something ain't right at that place!

After you have a couple of them Texan MMers come over and replace your water pump, you can drive your MM to that stealership and tell them to suck it and do a burnout in their garage bay.

Then you can come to Looseville and tell us how it felt...

That's a damn shame the stealership treated you like that cruzer, GO ELSEWHERE!! I had the same thing a couple of weeks ago. My stealership charged $156.84

OZ

[Baaad GN]

Okay guy's my Son Brad and I will come up with some money for cruzer and will give it to him upon arrival in Louisville if needed, Just let us know!!!!!!!!!!!! No big deal!

[IwantmyMMnow!]

As luck would have it, we had breakfast with an old friend who told us that the Service Manager and his top mechanic had leased a part of the family Mercury dealership when it closed and set up shop as independents. They serviced the Marauder from the day I bought it. Stopped in to see him and he is installing the water pump on Monday at a MUCH more reasonable price. The cost will depend on which pump we decide to use. He said in all his 20 years servicing Mercurys, he had never had to replace an oil filter adapter--just the $ 22 dollar gaskets. I'll keep you posted. Chris, thanks for the offer to help--my garage is too small and a sloping ramp is the only work area--all my tools are in storage as well as my hydraulic jack---primitive working conditions to say the least. I may take you up on your in the future--coming up on 150,000 miles, more things will probably go wrong. Now, at least I have an honest garage to go to . Things are looking up for the L'ville trip---will know definitely on Sunday when we have a big family get together. A big THANKS for all the posts ---I really appreciate it. It's getting late, so I'll sign off for the night Maury


^^^This is great news, Maury!^^^

Hope to see you in Looseville.

[tbone]

I would NEVER return to that dealer for having the GALL to quote $980 for a water pump. I did mine, and it was one of the cheapest, easiest jobs I have ever done to a car. Crap like this makes my faith in people completely non-existent. You should complain to the owner if nothing else.

[cruzer]

But all this is not necessary--I have a few bucks tucked away for just such emergencies as this--this whole thing just took the wind out of my sails for aa minute. In fact, Ginny and I had planned a 5,000 mile "bucket list" trip this Spring, but that is impossible now, so I'll just use some of that money-----THANKS !!!!!!!!! Maury:)
Okay guy's my Son Brad and I will come up with some money for cruzer and will give it to him upon arrival in Louisville if needed, Just let us know!!!!!!!!!!!! No big deal!

[cruzer]

I AM COMING TO LOUISVILLE !!!!!! To my complete surprize, my daughters blindsided me with complete plans to take care of Ginny and I am coming with their blessings. Pending weather forcasts, I plan to leave Fort Worth at 0700 on Wednesday via I-30, I-40 to Nashville and north to Louisville. This will be my "bucket list" trip I guess --lots of friends in Louisville --lots of memories. Also I have " 4 wall fever " from all the tension of the last year--driving the Marauder will be a great relaxer. Looking forward to seeing all my old friends and meeting you noobies ;) The Marauder has been a very important part of our lives since I bought it on April Fools Day in '03. If you see a Marauder with lots of placards on the side of the road, pull over and say HI. Just had a complete inspection and a new water pump and new rear tires (maybe). Have "on Star" tracking and a tracker on my cell phone so the girls can keep track of me :P Got my fingers crossed on the weather. See you soon, Maury

[PonyUP]

I AM COMING TO LOUISVILLE !!!!!! To my complete surprize, my daughters blindsided me with complete plans to take care of Ginny and I am coming with their blessings. Pending weather forcasts, I plan to leave Fort Worth at 0700 on Wednesday via I-30, I-40 to Nashville and north to Louisville. This will be my "bucket list" trip I guess --lots of friends in Louisville --lots of memories. Also I have " 4 wall fever " from all the tension of the last year--driving the Marauder will be a great relaxer. Looking forward to seeing all my old friends and meeting you noobies ;) The Marauder has been a very important part of our lives since I bought it on April Fools Day in '03. If you see a Marauder with lots of placards on the side of the road, pull over and say HI. Just had a complete inspection and a new water pump and new rear tires (maybe). Have "on Star" tracking and a tracker on my cell phone so the girls can keep track of me :P Got my fingers crossed on the weather. See you soon, Maury

That's awesome Maury, I'm thrilled to hear this news as you are one of the members I've yet to meet but wanted too. Can't wait to see you there. I'm cruising up early Wednesday as well, maybe our paths will cross


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[cruzer]

My cell # is 817 296 3819 ---- if you are enroute on Wednesday along my route, give me a shout. Maury

[MM2004]

My cell # is 817 296 3819 ---- if you are enroute on Wednesday along my route, give me a shout. Maury

Great news Maury!

I too, look forward to meeting you and shaking your hand.

Please answer the poll accordingly and get your hotel room booked.

The blocked rooms will end sometime late this week, and wouldn't want you to miss out on the discounted rate.

FWIW... We are close to 50 cars this year, and will be an epic event!

Drive safe my friend, and will see you soon.

:burnout:

Mike.

[guspech750]

I AM COMING TO LOUISVILLE !!!!!! To my complete surprize, my daughters blindsided me with complete plans to take care of Ginny and I am coming with their blessings. Pending weather forcasts, I plan to leave Fort Worth at 0700 on Wednesday via I-30, I-40 to Nashville and north to Louisville. This will be my "bucket list" trip I guess --lots of friends in Louisville --lots of memories. Also I have " 4 wall fever " from all the tension of the last year--driving the Marauder will be a great relaxer. Looking forward to seeing all my old friends and meeting you noobies ;) The Marauder has been a very important part of our lives since I bought it on April Fools Day in '03. If you see a Marauder with lots of placards on the side of the road, pull over and say HI. Just had a complete inspection and a new water pump and new rear tires (maybe). Have "on Star" tracking and a tracker on my cell phone so the girls can keep track of me :P Got my fingers crossed on the weather. See you soon, Maury

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[cruzer]

Mike, thanks. Entered poll. Will make hotel res tomorrow morning. Can't wait to make the drive and enjoy the Marauder. Please have some good weather. Maury

[Baaad GN]

Good news hearing things are working out for you, not being nasty but you are close to my age! (OLD) Maury