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Cobra25
03-12-2004, 06:15 PM
I was wondering everyone talk's about 1/4 mile time's, Does anybody know what the Highest top end speed ever reached by a Marauder is ?

Petrograde
03-12-2004, 06:22 PM
When I was at M'ville 1 last year, I overheard someone say 170mph. (driveshaft issues not withstanding) I don't remember who, unfortunately.

But, this does seem plausible to me.

supercharged with 2:73 gears? hmm,.. maybe.

Tom

Smokie
03-12-2004, 06:24 PM
It's been a while, I think a couple guys have visited 140.

Haggis
03-12-2004, 06:30 PM
I had my speedo reading 140 with more left on the tach before I back out of it.

Vortech S/C & 4.10 gears.

Petrograde
03-12-2004, 06:46 PM
I had my speedo reading 140 with more left on the tach before I back out of it.

Vortech S/C & 4.10 gears.

wow Haggis,... what do ya think your top speed might be?

I've never had the cojones to go too much past 100. actually, here's a pic of one high speed romp.

It was on I-24W in Tennessee. About 50 miles from Arkansas.

Just for the record,... YES,.. this was dumb. However,.. I didn't take my eyes off the road. out of many pics I snapped off,.. this was one of the few that came out, ... cause I snapped a few off hoping one would come out. This one wasn't the highest speed,.. although I think I reached 106 mph.

Tom

Haggis
03-12-2004, 07:05 PM
wow Haggis,... what do ya think your top speed might be?

I've never had the cojones to go too much past 100. actually, here's a pic of one high speed romp.

It was on I-24W in Tennessee. About 50 miles from Arkansas.

Just for the record,... YES,.. this was dumb. However,.. I didn't take my eyes off the road. out of many pics I snapped off,.. this was one of the few that came out, ... cause I snapped a few off hoping one would come out. This one was the highest speed,.. although I think I reached 106 mph.

Tom

I don't know what my top speed might have been. The story goes, Ladyhawke and I were returning from the Hershey meet, on the way home a Camarro pulls along side us. LH is driving I tell her to take him, we are pretty much keeping up when the Camarro starts to pull away. We were going 120mph and LH tells me thats all there is, that the rpms stopped rising at 4500 and that's all there is.

The rev limiter was disconnected at Kenny Browns, I call David Frey we talk.....ok. Next weekend LH and I take the car out on a deserted country highway, 1a.m., no cars around. I proceed to open her up for 50mph and take her to 140mph and between 4400-5000 rpm. No problem with rev limiter. After a few seconds (seemed like minutes) I notice tail lights up ahead, I start to slow it down. Let me tell you you come up real quick on people going that fast.

I have not been that fast since, but have been to 120 a couple of times on open road. I is fun and exciting and very very stupid (added for the younger readers on this site) right James.

Petrograde
03-12-2004, 07:16 PM
I notice tail lights up ahead, I start to slow it down. Let me tell you you come up real quick on people going that fast.
I passed a minivan that was putting along in the right lane. It was spooky, cause I couldn't tellya what kind of minivan it was! It was only a beige streak. They must have thought I was a lunatic. :shake:


It is fun and exciting and very very stupid (added for the younger readers on this site) right James.
:lol: Woa is a good kid. He is as mature as I was at 25! I'm not worried about him,... just all the other 16 year olds out there!

Tom

Haggis
03-12-2004, 07:27 PM
:lol: Woa is a good kid. He is as mature as I was at 25! I'm not worried about him,... just all the other 16 year olds out there!

Tom


Yea, I havn't meet him yet, but I like him too, so far. All I know is that he sounds more maturer then I was before I got married, that was about two years ago. :lol: Then again ask Ladyhawke and she might not agree. :baaa:

Yes dear? No dear I was not making fun of you. Honestly dear I wasn't, I swear. Yes dear I know, no swearing in the house. Sorry dear http://smilies.sofrayt.com/1/1/innocent.gif.

TripleTransAm
03-12-2004, 07:47 PM
I was wondering everyone talk's about 1/4 mile time's, Does anybody know what the Highest top end speed ever reached by a Marauder is ?


I'm sure my Marauder hit about 60-65mph while it was at its highest point, sitting on a flatbed being towed back to the dealer last May. ;)

:lol:

MarauderMark
03-12-2004, 08:29 PM
Well when i was stock i hit 120mph but since dr stage1 kit 118mph is all i can do because the vibration in the rear is just ridiculous and i wont dare to go any further even though w/o the vibration i more than likely could do better than that...

Marauder
03-12-2004, 08:31 PM
I've had mine up to 120mph once or twice in stock (current) form.

TAF
03-12-2004, 08:39 PM
Speedo only goes to 140...after that...it's just guessin...

Been there 3 or 4 times...on my favorite, secret stretch...she is still pulling...but in my N/A config, I wouldn't say much more than that...maybe high 140's to maybe 150 would be tops.

This car is SO steady, firm & "rock-solid" above 100...

MarauderMark
03-12-2004, 08:41 PM
This car is SO steady, firm & "rock-solid" above 100...[/QUOTE]

it's a beautiful ride isnt it?ya dont even feel the road:rock:

Constable
03-12-2004, 09:49 PM
I've seen 125 countless times. Then, after I finally got the Dynotech driveshaft, I hit the Parkway at about 2am to test her out. I didn't intend to go so fast, but I had no idea! I hit it from a dead stop... after I hit 85, my eyes were glued to the road and wouldn't budge. I waited for the tell-tale vibration to start, but there was none. Next thing I knew, I glanced down for a split second to see the needle just past 140. I then began to freak out and slowed to a stop on the shoulder. It was - hands down - the stupidest thing I've ever done. Since then, I haven't had the car past 105. The part that scared em was that the car would've kept going. I think I had another 500 rpm left til redline.

junehhan
03-12-2004, 11:19 PM
Just a couple nights ago on my way home, the highway was totally deserted at night, so I decided to floor it. Acceleration from 65 to 100mph is pretty fast, but it did slow down just a tad after 105 till I bounced off the speed limiter at around 117mph. I'm actually curious what the top speed of a Marauder is, in totally stock form with just the speed limiter removed.

For those of you guys who have hit some insanely high top speed numbers on the highway, i'm curious what the temperature of the transmission fluid is.

woaface
03-13-2004, 12:08 AM
It is fun and exciting and very very stupid (added for the younger readers on this site) right James.Really man, keep that stuff to the track!

Yeah anyways, I missed all that, I've been doin cool stuff all night and I am now watching dennis miller with a friend who just passed out:shake: (yes, at 2 in the morning). Some people just can't stay up all night long!

I don't trust mine past 95 (see gallery, passenger took picture) because it shivers...and I discovered this on a toll road that 8 people a year drive on. Besides, once you get past 100 in that car, it takes it 18 hours to cover 10 ticks on the gauge...it's just boring. I'd rather sit in my friends Corvette and have his dad drive:banana2:

Glad ya'll had a good laugh on me though, thanks for appreciation!:cool4: :D :up:

LVMarauder
03-13-2004, 02:09 AM
133 on I 15 South to cali.

rookie1
03-13-2004, 04:12 AM
119 mph according to the speedo before the limiter kicked in. gotta get that changed after warranty is up.

Mikeenh
03-13-2004, 07:40 AM
With a stock rear and a Reinhart chip, it shifts from 3rd to 4th @140.Smooth, quick and easy. Like Todd said, It's guessing after that.

Cobra25
03-13-2004, 08:03 AM
It's easy to say this car really move's on the Highway. When I was doing 105 mph my rpm was reading between 3300-3400 with my present mods (Not Listed) .The car was solid and holding firm to the road, With a red line of 6200 app. who really know's. But it's nice to know thats their's not too many car's out their that can keep up with our Marauder's!

RoyLPita
03-13-2004, 09:00 AM
I believe that being behind a 250-300lb guy in a MM that does 145MPH with stock gears and a DR chip is pretty impressive.

Just my .02 once again.

Krytin
03-13-2004, 09:01 AM
Last sumer I had to make a one day round trip from Long Island, NY to Whitefield, NH.
Took the Pt Jeff ferry to Bridgeport, CT and headed north. After crossing the NH line I felt a little more comfortable since NH & NY don't exchange ticket info. Highest speed run for me was on I-93 north bound between Penecook and Plymouth - 130 - 135 for almost 8 min continuous! No other cars on road - long lines of sight to drop speed if overtaking any trafic did become an issue. No place around home for anything like that (haven't try it again since).

David JP
03-13-2004, 10:28 AM
I was wondering everyone talk's about 1/4 mile time's, Does anybody know what the Highest top end speed ever reached by a Marauder is ?
I had mine up to 135 @ 4200 RPM on I95. Smooth as butter.
With another 1800 to burn, I'd say she tops out between 150 and 160.
Hopefully, I'll never test those limits. :eek:

CRUZTAKER
03-13-2004, 02:55 PM
I smacked 137 today on the way back from Columbus. All I can say is with the new Eibach springs and rear suspension (overall lowered 1.5 inches), there is absolutely NO LIFT at top speeds that I used to encounter....you know, that feeling of coming off the ground....and you're not an airplane!

EDIT: Forgot to mention, no vibration what-so-ever from my "it's not the same, won't work, do whatever you want" MMC 'police' DRIVE SHAFT.

Personally the $245 difference is un-noticable at 137....go figure.

blacksnake
03-13-2004, 09:55 PM
I had mine on a dyno a few weeks back and pulled one run in overdrive. The speedo topped out at 140 but the computer registered 165 before I lost my nerve and backed it down. No vibration with the MMX driveshaft. I don't know if you could achieve this on the open road due to wind resistance, etc.

woaface
03-14-2004, 12:13 PM
I don't know if you could achieve this on the open road due to wind resistance, etc.
You might want to lower it a bit before you try, as in, enough to forget about some ride quality at all!

Maybe we'll just keep that kind of thing on a dyno :D

Ross
03-15-2004, 08:14 AM
I've hit 130 with a lot left in the car. Don't know how much faster it would have gone if I had enough road and cojones to try it.

2003 MIB
03-15-2004, 08:24 AM
I've hit 130 with a lot left in the car. Don't know how much faster it would have gone if I had enough road and cojones to try it.
Ditto- I kept having visions of how to explain that ticket...

Strider74
03-15-2004, 03:43 PM
Wow, I don't want to sound like a maniac on the road but I hit 110-120 at least every day or two on the way to or from work, winter or summer. If I pass someone it leaps to 100+ and I have to brake pretty hard to avoid attracting too much unwanted attention.
The fastest I've had it was about 150+. The speedo stoped at 140 with about another 2500rpm left. I don't know if its the gearing and the chip thats making the difference as I understood those mods to be primarly for low-end performance but my Marauder is very, very quick at high speeds. As for stability I have never felt safer in any car in any weather, this thing has handled all the weather here in Minnesota better then my Chevy S-10 ZR-2 ever did. And its more stable at 140 than that truck was at 65. (no I'm not comparing trucks to Marauders but you get the idea)

Paul T. Casey
03-15-2004, 03:53 PM
Highest truley verified speed was 85, in a 55 zone. Cost, $97. Ability for my wife to say "I told you so," priceless!

junehhan
03-15-2004, 10:34 PM
Highest truley verified speed was 85, in a 55 zone. Cost, $97. Ability for my wife to say "I told you so," priceless!


You guys who live in states with more lenient fines for speeding are lucky. In OH, they can arrest you anytime you go faster than 25mph over the limit......

Lidio
03-16-2004, 05:37 AM
I intend to see what my MM can do during an open track event this July 3d at MIS (Michigan International Speedway) with the SAAC club. I've never done it before but I've already registered and got confirmation already for it all.

I'm definitely going and using my MM for it. Supposedly you get to use a good chunk of the main oval and the infield as well for some cornering stuff.

Never really took any Trilogy MM's past 135-140mph before... but let me assure every one, there was lots of pedal left before it got to WOT!!

I think my MM with the power its been making and even with the 4.10's, using OD, I predict it will go a minimum of 160-165mph as long as I have the nuts to do and the car it self doesn’t act to funny at those speeds.


Thanks

2003 MIB
03-16-2004, 06:36 AM
I think my MM with the power its been making and even with the 4.10's, using OD, I predict it will go a minimum of 160-165mph as long as I have the nuts to do and the car it self doesn’t act to funny at those speeds.

Thanks
Just don't feel pressured to push it to hit your predicted numbers. Nothing's worth an injury or worse just to back up a claim. I think I speak for a few of us when I say we'd rather have you around even if you ONLY run 159mph.;)

junehhan
03-16-2004, 10:25 PM
I'm curious to see how stable the Marauder would be at such speeds. Lidio, do you plan on catching that on video for everyone to see? At such speeds, i'd also be worried about transmission fluid temperatures..........

Lidio
03-17-2004, 05:35 AM
I would certainly hope a friend or some one will get it on video for sure.

As far as the trans temp goes... that’s the least of my power train worries. The MM has a great factory trans cooler and once in OD the converter locks-up. Once the converter is locked, the majority of the 4R70's heat generation will be gone. And I'm pretty sure this is only 20 minute sessions and not entirely on the big oval at high speeds the whole time. Ether way I'm confident the trans won’t be a problem.

Thanks

01True BlueGT
03-17-2004, 06:25 AM
I would certainly hope a friend or some one will get it on video for sure.

As far as the trans temp goes... that’s the least of my power train worries. The MM has a great factory trans cooler and once in OD the converter locks-up. Once the converter is locked, the majority of the 4R70's heat generation will be gone. And I'm pretty sure this is only 20 minute sessions and not entirely on the big oval at high speeds the whole time. Ether way I'm confident the trans won’t be a problem.

Thanks

Good to see you made it back from FL safe and sound. I here you might have hit an all-time best 1/4mi. time. Sorry, I didn't get to Bradenton, we bought a new house and the wife had me packing all weekend. :bows: I hope Jerry made it back ok, I was fotunate enought to meet him at FFW. What a great guy.

Lidio
03-17-2004, 06:46 AM
I wanted to let Jerry from Trilogy brag on his own once he got back from FL, but I guess he’s been real busy. His Trilogy MM #1 went a best of 12.52 on one of the test sessions at the Bradenton, FL track and then the rest of the weekend during the races it ran a bunch of 12.60's. This is about right for his car and what's been done to it so far. It would normally go a 12.42 in the 45 - 50 degree cold and around 12.80-.90’s in the 90 degree heat like when we had it in TX.


Thanks

junehhan
03-17-2004, 10:50 PM
I would certainly hope a friend or some one will get it on video for sure.

As far as the trans temp goes... that’s the least of my power train worries. The MM has a great factory trans cooler and once in OD the converter locks-up. Once the converter is locked, the majority of the 4R70's heat generation will be gone. And I'm pretty sure this is only 20 minute sessions and not entirely on the big oval at high speeds the whole time. Ether way I'm confident the trans won’t be a problem.

Thanks

Out of curiosity, will the overdrive gear be able to take such a load on it for an extended period of time? I always thought that WOT romps should be restricted to the main drive gears for that reason, although I don't know much about this particular transmission we have. Either way, i'm excited to see what you can do. After what i've heard people say, I think i'm going to have to have you chip my car sometime this summer!

Lidio
03-19-2004, 04:18 AM
June… Your right,

Most top speed runs are done in the typical 1 to 1 trans gear ratio. The reason for this I’ve always under stood is the most vehicles don’t have the nuts to pull at very high speeds in their highest gear such overdrives. This tend to not be true though if the vehicle is very powerful. Plus if it’s had a rear gear change this also allows the more under powered cars to achieve their top speed or greater top speed in their higher non 1 to 1 over-drive gears, or overdrives.

Older non electric AOD’s which came in most rear drive Ford’s from ’82 till about ’93 could not handle being in OD and WOT at the same time. In fact the valve body in those was programmed to not hold OD if the gas pedal was to the floor. The OD apply band would eventually burn up.

The newer AOD-E’s and 4R70W’s have improved OD bands and actually will shift into OD at WOT, and seem to do a very good job at it.

With the power my MM is making even with the 4.10’s in the axle, it should have no problem in OD achieving a serious top speed.



Thanks

Richy63
03-19-2004, 07:31 AM
Here is 127, would have went faster but was to hard to photo and drive as it was. Very soon I will get a very good picture @ 140.

To date all I have done is the tuner and silencer removal.

David JP
03-19-2004, 08:10 AM
Here is 127, would have went faster but was to hard to photo and drive as it was. Very soon I will get a very good picture @ 140.

To date all I have done is the tuner and silencer removal.
Sweet!!!
And looks like you've got an extra 2100 RPM to play with!!!

junehhan
03-20-2004, 11:07 PM
June… Your right,

Most top speed runs are done in the typical 1 to 1 trans gear ratio. The reason for this I’ve always under stood is the most vehicles don’t have the nuts to pull at very high speeds in their highest gear such overdrives. This tend to not be true though if the vehicle is very powerful. Plus if it’s had a rear gear change this also allows the more under powered cars to achieve their top speed or greater top speed in their higher non 1 to 1 over-drive gears, or overdrives.

Older non electric AOD’s which came in most rear drive Ford’s from ’82 till about ’93 could not handle being in OD and WOT at the same time. In fact the valve body in those was programmed to not hold OD if the gas pedal was to the floor. The OD apply band would eventually burn up.

The newer AOD-E’s and 4R70W’s have improved OD bands and actually will shift into OD at WOT, and seem to do a very good job at it.

With the power my MM is making even with the 4.10’s in the axle, it should have no problem in OD achieving a serious top speed.



Thanks


Hmmm, the fact that our transmission do have the ability to withstand going WOT in overdrive is a great thing then! The question is, where can I find enough open space to perform such an experiment? Of course that isn't going to happen right now, but after I get a few mods put on :)

DL04
03-21-2004, 07:05 AM
Hmmm, the fact that our transmission do have the ability to withstand going WOT in overdrive is a great thing then! The question is, where can I find enough open space to perform such an experiment? Of course that isn't going to happen right now, but after I get a few mods put on :)Maybe somewhere between Cinicnnati aaaand Indy? :rock: