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Blk04MM
07-03-2013, 09:52 PM
If my car doesn't sell I'm tempted to put more mods on her. Next will be stall since a SC will potentially poof my 160k motor quickly.

My question is how much traction do I lose? I do have 4.10s. But I like everyone else pull away from a light or dead stop rather spirited at times and with my stock stall backed up by 295s on the rear my tires don't spin at all or VERY little.

Those with NA motors gears and stall please chime in. You SC owners ...sorry don't count in this one because you spin regardless.

NO I don't want a stall to spin tires. They cost too darn much to want to spin them all day. But the marauder does need a stall to get moving.
SC Cheesehead
07-04-2013, 06:04 AM
If my car doesn't sell I'm tempted to put more mods on her. Next will be stall since a SC will potentially poof my 160k motor quickly.

My question is how much traction do I lose? I do have 4.10s. But I like everyone else pull away from a light or dead stop rather spirited at times and with my stock stall backed up by 295s on the rear my tires don't spin at all or VERY little.

Those with NA motors gears and stall please chime in. You SC owners ...sorry don't count in this one because you spin regardless.

NO I don't want a stall to spin tires. They cost too darn much to want to spin them all day. But the marauder does need a stall to get moving.

Why do you think that will be the case?

Lotsa guys here well north of 100K and S/C'd. If you don't go nuts on timing and boost pressure, no problem.
RF Overlord
07-04-2013, 06:45 AM
Is this car your DD? 3800 stall on the street might be a bit much...
SC Cheesehead
07-04-2013, 07:09 AM
Is this car your DD? 3800 stall on the street might be a bit much...


^^^^^ What he said, especially if you're driving stop and go in hilly areas.
MOTOWN
07-04-2013, 07:13 AM
Been there done that! high stall converters on a DD street car are a pain! especially on a N/A car.
LANDY
07-04-2013, 04:01 PM
4k nitrous FTI converter. Dont fear the stall, but what do i know.
Blk04MM
07-04-2013, 05:02 PM
Why do you think that will be the case?

Lotsa guys here well north of 100K and S/C'd. If you don't go nuts on timing and boost pressure, no problem.

Going SC @ 160k isn't asking for a bomb?
Not looking for a rocket ship just a nice 400rwhp and I'm cool


Is this car your DD? 3800 stall on the street might be a bit much...

Yea it's a DD.


^^^^^ What he said, especially if you're driving stop and go in hilly areas.


No hills. Mixed city and highway


4k nitrous FTI converter. Dont fear the stall, but what do i know.

I don't fear it. Just asking how would traction be.
sailsmen
07-04-2013, 07:06 PM
I have had a 3,500 stall on a DD S/C for 130k. Best advice Zack ever gave me. It's all in the tune!

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burt ragio
07-05-2013, 04:20 AM
I have had a 3,500 stall on a DD S/C for 130k. Best advice Zack ever gave me. It's all in the tune!

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What mfg did you go with ? Did you add a trans cooler ?
SC Cheesehead
07-05-2013, 08:03 AM
Going SC @ 160k isn't asking for a bomb?
Not looking for a rocket ship just a nice 400rwhp and I'm cool


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88093

Check post #11

You want 400 rwhp, you ain't gonna do it NA.
MOTOWN
07-05-2013, 08:19 AM
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88093

Check post #11

You want 400 rwhp, you ain't gonna do it NA.

Sad but true! these motors really need a S/C to scoot! and if you did reach 400 rwhp N/A you would spend more than a S/C build to get there!:bigcry:
sailsmen
07-05-2013, 09:15 AM
What mfg did you go with ? Did you add a trans cooler ?
PI.
I removed the OEM cooler, cut off the PS cooler & moutned it on the frt sway bar.
I then added a 12"x12" cooler behind the grill. The trans temps are on the warm side so I change the fluid more often.

Lab report - http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=87981

I cannot emphasize enough how much the tune counts with a high stall.
RacerX
07-05-2013, 09:30 AM
You need a better tune or something. Before I went SC, I was able to rip the tires in 1st no prob and chirp nicely hitting second every time. 295 Nitto 555s and 4.10s at the time too.
Blk04MM
07-05-2013, 10:59 AM
I have had a 3,500 stall on a DD S/C for 130k. Best advice Zack ever gave me. It's all in the tune!

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How's traction though when giving her some good gas from a stop. I know it'll break loose but is it a "no way it'll hook" situation?


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88093

Check post #11

You want 400 rwhp, you ain't gonna do it NA.

Oh I definitely know it won't happen N/A. I was asking will going SC at 160k playing with even less borrowed time.


Sad but true! these motors really need a S/C to scoot! and if you did reach 400 rwhp N/A you would spend more than a S/C build to get there!:bigcry:

I know that and definitely not trying to go that route.


PI.
I removed the OEM cooler, cut off the PS cooler & moutned it on the frt sway bar.
I then added a 12"x12" cooler behind the grill. The trans temps are on the warm side so I change the fluid more often.

Lab report - http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=87981

I cannot emphasize enough how much the tune counts with a high stall.

Why are the temps warm? The stall?


You need a better tune or something. Before I went SC, I was able to rip the tires in 1st no prob and chirp nicely hitting second every time. 295 Nitto 555s and 4.10s at the time too.

Basically same set up I have. So I'm guessing I can kiss traction goodbye with a high stall.