Please explain

[DOOM]

Mary and other owners.

Can you please help me to understand something? Political and religious threads are not allowed on the site. YOUR RULES!

But yet they pop up ALL THE TIME

Members blatantly break the rules by doing this! Yet most of the time their threads don't even get NUKED! They just get LOCKED! so you can still go back and read them.

I guess those threads don't bother or offend YOU! :rolleyes:

And it doesn't matter if they offend SEVERAL MEMBERS here!

I'm tired of all the Obama bashing, gun control, and overthrow the government threads!!! :mad2:

So are several other members here!!!!!!!

What do you do about those threads??? Because it doesn't offend YOU it doesn't matter and these threads get to live long healthy lives before being CLOSED But not NUKED!

How does that make any sense???

Mary you found something offensive! FINE!!!

What about the crap that us members find offensive THAT BREAK THE SITE RULES and not a God damn thing gets done about it!?

Several members are FED UP! but I guess it doesn't matter because YOU don't find it offensive!? WTF???

Let me be clear! Mary, Bob, Dan, Julie, and Mike! I don't have a problem with any of you! And you know that! Mary the next time I see you I'll pick you up off he ground and give you a big hug like I ways do.

But this **** ain't right!!!

I started a thread "BOOST GETS YOU LAID" for a friend! His wife loved it! Ms. Denmark liked it and didn't find it offensive either. What site rule did I break??? That's what I would like to know?

How is this FAIR?

[MOTOWN]

I Agree with DOOM 1000000000000000000%!

[DOOM]

I Agree with DOOM 1000000000000000000%!



So do several other MEMBERS here!

But that doesn't matter because we aren't OWNERS!

[CWright]

Jake ask many questions above that I've been curious about myself. I usually lay low and don't say a word but I have to say I'd be interested to know some of the answers.


I've enjoyed the heck out of the last 5 years on this site. My wife gives me a hard time because if I'm not out here on the computer I'm usually checking it through my phone. But lately it seems as if things have changed and the atmosphere is different. IDK, maybe I'm burn out. But I do think others have questioned what is being mentioned above as well.

Chris

[Blk04MM]

Mary and other owners.

Can you please help me to understand something? Political and religious threads are not allowed on the site. YOUR RULES!

But yet they pop up ALL THE TIME

Members blatantly break the rules by doing this! Yet most of the time their threads don't even get NUKED! They just get LOCKED! so you can still go back and read them.

I guess those threads don't bother or offend YOU! :rolleyes:

And it doesn't matter if they offend SEVERAL MEMBERS here!

I'm tired of all the Obama bashing, gun control, and overthrow the government threads!!! :mad2:

So are several other members here!!!!!!!

What do you do about those threads??? Because it doesn't offend YOU it doesn't matter and these threads get to live long healthy lives before being CLOSED But not NUKED!

How does that make any sense???

Mary you found something offensive! FINE!!!

What about the crap that us members find offensive THAT BREAK THE SITE RULES and not a God damn thing gets done about it!?

Several members are FED UP! but I guess it doesn't matter because YOU don't find it offensive!? WTF???

Let me be clear! Mary, Bob, Dan, Julie, and Mike! I don't have a problem with any of you! And you know that! Mary the next time I see you I'll pick you up off he ground and give you a big hug like I ways do.

But this **** ain't right!!!

I started a thread "BOOST GETS YOU LAID" for a friend! His wife loved it! Ms. Denmark liked it and didn't find it offensive either. What site rule did I break??? That's what I would like to know?

How is this FAIR?

:concur::agree: 58972398721897429%

Don't forget to add the bashing of others whom may not type as punctual as others, the roasting of someone's OWN taste of THEIR VEHICLE. This place should be a CAR FOURM not the chat room it's been. Most members here will help each other talk about another member before they offer to help. This site is VERY informative ...VERY. But there needs to be more order and more togetherness around here.

[Curless]

I have to agree...by the way, the offending post was directed at ME. I knew it, I was told about, I LOVED IT! I do understand how it could be found offensive. That being said the rules need to be applied evenly.

I have stayed away from many, and I mean many forums due to high school antics...I love this site and its members, I have met wonderful friends here in the last year, I don not wish to have the scattered all over due to one or two people that can't get along...

Let's fix this now before we have another split and end up with a couple of little sites that can't make it due to cost or lack of involvement. Look at the MCM site, good site, decent member count, dead topics, dead involvement...we don't want that do we?

Mary is right, this fighting is childish. We love the car, we love each other, lets find a way to make it work for everyone...how about an adult only section? That area we can run our mouths any way we want and if you don't have permission you can't go in there?

[NATEHAWK]

Mary and other owners.

Can you please help me to understand something? Political and religious threads are not allowed on the site. YOUR RULES!

But yet they pop up ALL THE TIME

Members blatantly break the rules by doing this! Yet most of the time their threads don't even get NUKED! They just get LOCKED! so you can still go back and read them.

I guess those threads don't bother or offend YOU! :rolleyes:

And it doesn't matter if they offend SEVERAL MEMBERS here!

I'm tired of all the Obama bashing, gun control, and overthrow the government threads!!! :mad2:

So are several other members here!!!!!!!

What do you do about those threads??? Because it doesn't offend YOU it doesn't matter and these threads get to live long healthy lives before being CLOSED But not NUKED!

How does that make any sense???

Mary you found something offensive! FINE!!!

What about the crap that us members find offensive THAT BREAK THE SITE RULES and not a God damn thing gets done about it!?

Several members are FED UP! but I guess it doesn't matter because YOU don't find it offensive!? WTF???

Let me be clear! Mary, Bob, Dan, Julie, and Mike! I don't have a problem with any of you! And you know that! Mary the next time I see you I'll pick you up off he ground and give you a big hug like I ways do.

But this **** ain't right!!!

I started a thread "BOOST GETS YOU LAID" for a friend! His wife loved it! Ms. Denmark liked it and didn't find it offensive either. What site rule did I break??? That's what I would like to know?

How is this FAIR?

Those are all legit questions and statements that I will be subscribing to this thread to wait and see the answers.

[RacerX]

Love ya Jake, but, since we do not have a controlling interest, we do not have a vote. Forums are not ruled by votes and the majority/minority, etc. :beer:

[DOOM]

What RULE did I break?

What about the others that break them all the damn time?

How long has it been since I have posted a street racing thread??

I don't because I RESPECT THE RULES OF THE SITE!

[Bigdogjim]

Trust me you will never ever get the answer you are looking for.

[wannaMM]

I'm really new to this forum (yes I'm a lurker), and I'm confused also....I see all the things that Doom is bringing up.

Hopefully, there can be some resolution to these items Doom is addressing.(cue background music--why can't we be friends)

I JUST purchased my Marauder,hoping to glean a load of info for the maint. & upgrading,but really enjoy all the "back-and-forth" stuff that
goes on here.

Just my 2 cents...Now I'm broke!

[Bigdogjim]

Never mind you answer is posted here...

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88161

[GAMike]

I'm an offender of the political threads and the gun threads..... That said, I have to agree with Doom here. Personally I think many of us are just a lil to high strung.... I come here to let off steam and BS without worries about being PC. None of us are perfect. None of us should make it their mission to impose their version of "perfect", outside of rules developed and consistently enforced by the ownership.

Thanks for your consideration of this viewpoint. :)

[PonyUP]

On my opinion Doom was a little light.

I'm sick and tired of the politics on this forum. I've heard from multiple owners, that I should just ignore it. Well the Anti Democrat sentiment and anti Obama crap on this site is offensive, and yet you continue to do nothing about it.

This has been brought publicly multiple times, you address it and then business as usual.

So let me give you some of your same advice, if boost gets you laid is offensive to you, don't look at it. I've seen worse on mudflaps

There have been numerous gun threads started, something that also doesn't belong here, but as the car is ten years old, you just have to accept there will be topics like that.

There is a contingent, or group rather out there that has acted as the moral majority, besides the owners and their hypocrisy is ridiculous.

Lastly, and where I was truly ashamed to be a member of this site is what happened over the 4th.

A supporting member posted in the lounge (off topic non marauder) about how he struggled with his family over the fourth.

He was rudely met with a dear Abbey letter saying we should just discuss cars and other members agreed and supported it. These same members post on non marauder topics all the time and they called out another member for doing the same

Pretty much the definition of hypocrisy.

What is sickening is that innuendo, and jokes have been called out, but these same members don't say squat about the politics. The things they say about our government and our President is sickening, but as long as your a conservative and agree with what's being said, I guess that's okay.

So Mary you can send the angry bunny after me, until the politics are removed from this site I won't change my signature.

I'm not afraid of a vacation as I will be logged out anyway.

Thank you

[RacerX]

This thread should be locked and Be careful...

XcxKIJTb3Hg

[MOTOWN]

This thread should be locked and Be careful...

XcxKIJTb3Hg

No it shouldnt! if you dont like it the red X in upper right hand corner is your best option!

[RF Overlord]

Doom, and everyone else:

You have to understand that we owners have lives outside this board and CANNOT moderate every single post as it comes through 24/7. No one could.

We also TRY to be fair and not delete posts capriciously and without some basis, but even that line is a moving target.

If someone doesn't like a post, there's a "report post" button. If you don't like a religious post, or a gun-control post, or an Obama-bashing post, use the damn button.

If you want us to become the uber-strict parents we try not to be, we can do that, too. From now on we'll simply delete any post with the words "Obama", "gun", "control", "government", "Sex", "Drugs", or "Rock and Roll". We have tried to allow people to vent about their own personal gripes and injustices, but since this apparently offends so many, we'll just delete everything that doesn't directly relate to the car. Will that make everyone happy?

Look: I know you all have heard variations on this theme before, so no one can say "I didn't know". Use the common sense you were born with and ask yourself: "would I show this to my mother, or my rabbi?" If the answer is no, THEN DON'T POST IT.

[PonyUP]

This thread should be locked and Be careful...

XcxKIJTb3Hg

How about this? NO

We were publicly called out, we are responded without swearing or violating the rules

[DOOM]

I didn't start this thread to talk smack!

I want legitimate answers from the owners!

How you let all this political crap RUN WILD and shut down threads that don't bother anyone else but YOU!

[DOOM]

Funny how quickly you just nuked my skittles and sprite threads!

I HAVE NEVER SEEN A POLITICAL THREAD NUKED THAT DAMN QUICK!


WTF!!!???

[L.Mark]

I thought this site was an adult car forum. The equivilant of sitting in the garage drooling over some's car and talking smack. And everything that goes along with that. I also get the pg side of things and the need for rules. I like Chris's idear of an PG-13 or NC-17 area. Seems like that would appease most. I'll admit though, when I read I don't see much anger or slandering. But I am a newbie here and don't know the people as well as the veterains. The car has brought us to this point and this site, but the comraderie is what makes us leave the icecream on the counter in order to log in and see what we missed. And I'm not mentioning Kyle's name...:P:D:D:D:D:D
Your not going to please everyone all the time, but at least keep open the possiblity that if alot to most of the poeple are saying something wasn't right, take another look at it...As for being offended, I remember a time when if you got offended you just looked the other way and ignored what offended you. Now it seems that, in society, it's ok to stop something if one person is offended but the other 99 poeple involved are not. My :twocents:...not trying to argue, just express...

[Krytin]

On my opinion Doom was a little light.

I'm sick and tired of the politics on this forum. I've heard from multiple owners, that I should just ignore it. Well the Anti Democrat sentiment and anti Obama crap on this site is offensive, and yet you continue to do nothing about it.

This has been brought publicly multiple times, you address it and then business as usual.

So let me give you some of your same advice, if boost gets you laid is offensive to you, don't look at it. I've seen worse on mudflaps

There have been numerous gun threads started, something that also doesn't belong here, but as the car is ten years old, you just have to accept there will be topics like that.

There is a contingent, or group rather out there that has acted as the moral majority, besides the owners and their hypocrisy is ridiculous.

Lastly, and where I was truly ashamed to be a member of this site is what happened over the 4th.

A supporting member posted in the lounge (off topic non marauder) about how he struggled with his family over the fourth.

He was rudely met with a dear Abbey letter saying we should just discuss cars and other members agreed and supported it. These same members post on non marauder topics all the time and they called out another member for doing the same

Pretty much the definition of hypocrisy.

What is sickening is that innuendo, and jokes have been called out, but these same members don't say squat about the politics. The things they say about our government and our President is sickening, but as long as your a conservative and agree with what's being said, I guess that's okay.

So Mary you can send the angry bunny after me, until the politics are removed from this site I won't change my signature.

I'm not afraid of a vacation as I will be logged out anyway.

Thank you





+1 one on that^^^^^!

[PonyUP]

Doom, and everyone else:

You have to understand that we owners have lives outside this board and CANNOT moderate every single post as it comes through 24/7. No one could.

We also TRY to be fair and not delete posts capriciously and without some basis, but even that line is a moving target.

If someone doesn't like a post, there's a "report post" button. If you don't like a religious post, or a gun-control post, or an Obama-bashing post, use the damn button.

If you want us to become the uber-strict parents we try not to be, we can do that, too. From now on we'll simply delete any post with the words "Obama", "gun", "control", "government", "Sex", "Drugs", or "Rock and Roll". We have tried to allow people to vent about their own personal gripes and injustices, but since this apparently offends so many, we'll just delete everything that doesn't directly relate to the car. Will that make everyone happy?

Look: I know you all have heard variations on this theme before, so no one can say "I didn't know". Use the common sense you were born with and ask yourself: "would I show this to my mother, or my rabbi?" If the answer is no, THEN DON'T POST IT.

Problem with that, I showed the picture on question to my Dad, he thought it was hysterical. If I went to church I would show my priest

And by the way the picture in question is related to the car

It's a mudflap, tell me you haven't seen worse on Bumper stickers or mudflaps and I'll drop it

And Bob, you guys haven't dropped the hammer on politics at all, I don't know who you are trying to kid.

You chose the wrong thing to nuke, there has been much worse posted, and I hate to do it, but there have been worse pictures posted by a couple of the owners

[Odinson]

No it shouldnt! if you dont like it the red X in upper right hand corner is your best option!

LOL. From the video 'I've done it again.'

The only thing I find offensive is people trying to tell me what I should find offensive.

Except I just told you what I think you should find offensive... That's OK I'm a parent. I'm a professional hypocrite.

Run Away.....

[DOOM]

http://youtu.be/sRWWWWrVPAU
/sRWWWWrVPAU

[tbone]

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPRdh4Nz1tt ME-R_h04KVJz-JBG3zH2KRMGh3JfC5taMkkS6wBoA (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=Na7r2io5-asM5M&tbnid=3hlkrZBr1gn91M:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpsychiatrist-blog.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F09% 2Fno-more-xanax.html&ei=tx_bUZ7YLsayqAGQxYCgCQ&psig=AFQjCNHccAheV79CpcPOGKVy8 5KV1vnqPA&ust=1373401399872724)

Goes good with beer. :beer:

[SC Cheesehead]

Love ya Jake, but, since we do not have a controlling interest, we do not have a vote. Forums are not ruled by votes and the majority/minority, etc. :beer:


Never mind you answer is posted here...

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88161

^^^^^ Like my old Uncle Heinrich was fond to say, "es ist was es ist."

There's a lot of give and take on this site. Points have been made, feelings and opinions expressed, and obviously we don't all agree on everything, So, like good friends, let's just put this stuff behind us and move on. Life is too dang short. :beer:

[Blk04MM]

This thread shouldn't be nuked, locked or deleted. we are all supposed to be grown so why not discuss the sites issues publicly? We are all members who deserve to ask questions and stand against what's making this place a nut house and a chat room. if you cant discuss or debate in a mature manner then log off!!

Politics shouldn't be discussed here PERIOD. We all have our own views on it and its IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM related to cars so why allow it to be posted?!

Its not about policing every post but damn if a member violated NUKE THEM. Clearly many members gather at events no matter what president, gun control law they like or dislike because they come together. It just shouldn't be posted here. Want to vent about what you don't like then take a ride in your car, scream, yell, beat up the steering wheel etc...

If this is a place for MARAUDER AND OTHER CAR OWNERS TO COME TOGETHER then why post something to piss someone else off? That's like going to Maraudeville, gathering everyone in a room and saying something to offend everyone.

Can't say don't like it don't read it... WE ARE HERE TO READ

[DOOM]

let's just put this stuff behind us and move on. Life is too dang short. :beer:



Can't put it behind me Rex!

When I'm constantly seeing the Obama bashing, political, and gun control threads that get IGNORED! Obvious rule breakers!


And yes I do hit the report post button! Doesn't do any damn good! :shake:

[GAMike]

That's like going to Maraudeville, gathering everyone in a room and saying something to offend everyone.

What???? You think that won't happen????:D:eek:

[PonyUP]

Can't put it behind me Rex!

When I'm constantly seeing the Obama bashing, political, and gun control threads that get IGNORED! Obvious rule breakers!


And yes I do hit the report post button! Doesn't do any damn good! :shake:

That's the problem, wars start because of politics and religion which is why they should be avoided

Nothing ever gets done about it, most likely because Obama supporters fall in the minority, I suspect the ones with the nuke button are probably like the majority of this site, conservative. That's fine, just don't pretend like you've wielded justice evenly, you haven't

For every signature and post that you've deleted related to the topic at hand, boost getting you laid, have you gone back and nuked any of the political stuff?

No you havent

[ctrlraven]

Doom, and everyone else:

You have to understand that we owners have lives outside this board and CANNOT moderate every single post as it comes through 24/7. No one could.

We also TRY to be fair and not delete posts capriciously and without some basis, but even that line is a moving target.


I've said over the years I have been here multiple times, there needs to be REAL moderators on this site and let the owners just be owners/Admins who do stuff whenever they are on.

Having 1-2 selected members to be moderators (think Asst Mgr/3rd Key) for each main forum section while having a few super moderators (Manager) to to handle the same tasks and over see the regular moderators it would take some much stress off you and the other owners.

I have been either a moderator or super mod on almost every forum I have been on besides this one and a few others. I have personally seen that it really helps the forum run more efficient when the owner/s or admin have trusted and respected members of the forum help run it and enforce the site policies & rules.

[SC Cheesehead]

Can't put it behind me Rex!

When I'm constantly seeing the Obama bashing, political, and gun control threads that get IGNORED! Obvious rule breakers!


And yes I do hit the report post button! Doesn't do any damn good! :shake:

So what are you looking for here, Jake? An apology? An "anything goes" format? Permanent bans for "Obvious rule breakers!" What? :confused:

Emotions are running pretty high here, what needs to be done to get things cooled off? Just wanna know so we can get back to normal (such as it is...;))

[PonyUP]

So what are you looking for here, Jake? An apology? An "anything goes" format? Permanent bans for "Obvious rule breakers!" What? :confused:

Emotions are running pretty high here, what needs to be done to get things cooled off? Just wanna know so we can get back to normal (such as it is...;))

Well we already know an apology won't be coming. An admission of the problems we are talking about would be a good start.
I also think there has been a complete overreaction on the picture in question, so I think admitting someone had a bad day when they nuked it would also be a good start.
I've been bringing the politics problem up for over a year, and each time it's the same

They requote the rules, nuke the next political thing they see, then it goes on as it always does

So either we are allowed to bring the fun, in a pg format (I've seen much worse than that picture in pg movies) to offset the crap that they refuse to police in any manner, or we are not, in which case, at least speaking for myself, I will do so elsewhere from this site

What happened to Kyle in his thread turned my stomach, and very few called them on it. Those that didn't respond to admonish that dear abbey post that read it, should be ashamed

For me, that was the proverbial straw breaking the camels back

[PonyUP]

Here is a typical mudflap, as seen on any highway

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/09/zy9y3a8e.jpg

Is that offensive? Or is it really the silhouette of

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/09/5etedeje.jpg

That's offensive

[fastblackmerc]

I've said over the years I have been here multiple times, there needs to be REAL moderators on this site and let the owners just be owners/Admins who do stuff whenever they are on.

Having 1-2 selected members to be moderators (think Asst Mgr/3rd Key) for each main forum section while having a few super moderators (Manager) to to handle the same tasks and over see the regular moderators it would take some much stress off you and the other owners.

I have been either a moderator or super mod on almost every forum I have been on besides this one and a few others. I have personally seen that it really helps the forum run more efficient when the owner/s or admin have trusted and respected members of the forum help run it and enforce the site policies & rules.

This is good ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[SC Cheesehead]

Well we already know an apology won't be coming. An admission of the problems we are talking about would be a good start.
I also think there has been a complete overreaction on the picture in question, so I think admitting someone had a bad day when they nuked it would also be a good start.
I've been bringing the politics problem up for over a year, and each time it's the same

They requote the rules, nuke the next political thing they see, then it goes on as it always does

So either we are allowed to bring the fun, in a pg format (I've seen much worse than that picture in pg movies) to offset the crap that they refuse to police in any manner, or we are not, in which case, at least speaking for myself, I will do so elsewhere from this site

What happened to Kyle in his thread turned my stomach, and very few called them on it. Those that didn't respond to admonish that dear abbey post that read it, should be ashamed

For me, that was the proverbial straw breaking the camels back




Gotcha, so this is about "fairness." :rolleyes:

All done with this one...

[Blk04MM]

What???? You think that won't happen????:D:eek:

I'm sure it can happen.

I was just using it as an example. Same situation here, we all gather to car talk nobody wants to be offended or read about someone bashing what they believe in.

Politics & Religion discussion will always end in a mess when there are two different parties discussing it. ESPECIALLY in this type of environment.

[Cheeseheadbob]

Chris, I have usually followed you, or in some cases preempted you with the same thought whenever this situation arises. But alas, the results are always the same. Since I am prone to repetition, I will say it again...

OWNERS SHOULD NOT BE MODERATORS!!!
I've said over the years I have been here multiple times, there needs to be REAL moderators on this site and let the owners just be owners/Admins who do stuff whenever they are on.

[Blk04MM]

Brad, do you seriously think anyone has the time to go back over the thousands of threads on this site just to delete the political ones?

A few people are up in arms because they're offended that this thread was deleted but that one wasn't. Sorry, we'll try to do better in future. I agree that emotions are running high...I think we all need to take a step back and evaluate.

Well if it was ENFORCED then there wouldn't be "thousands"
We all know the street laws are ENFORCED so you wouldn't speed past a cop would you (some might)

Should be the same around here. Make the offenders understand that there is a guide to follow. Push out the BS and bring in the real car talk.
Can't talk about street racing because of the loss of a member so out of respect it's not tolerated. So out of respect for others why not keep the other crap out too? Wana talk politics then find a politics forum there are people there to talk you till you croak.

[PonyUP]

Thats exactly my point. The politics run amuck. Im not trying to be a jerk here, but it's always said that you'll try to do better, but it hasn't changed.

I sincerely hope this time will be different. I'll check in from time to time to see if it has

But keep in mind, it's more than about politics. There is definitely a hierarchy on this site that from time to time announces their presence with authority on various dramatic threads and slights posted in legitimate threads aimed at a few individuals going back to a conflict a year and half ago. Some of these people are working behind the scenes saying things in pm's to other members. I have had the unfortunate experience of reading one of these that clearly showed the intention.

I'm speaking in code here, but Bob, if you talk to Mike you'll know exactly what I'm talking about, and I prefer to not go anymore public with it than I have.

Hopefully things will get better, however after today I will be logged off. I'll check in from time to time and if it looks like we are back to enjoying each others lives, experiences, and cars, then I will be back and partake.

But again, I go back to Kyles thread, that was despicable and I'm disappointed there aren't more voices to call someone out on that BS.

Maybe I just held this community in a higher regard, maybe not as many people read it as I thought, but it was extremely disappointing

[lji372]

Personally I was shocked the skittles and sprite thread stayed up till now. Still shocked this thread is alive and well

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=87906&highlight=Strip

As well as the the Obama bashing (and I can't stand the current administration).
I had my vote I lost and went on with my life.

There was a firearm for sale ad a while back that was closed but still at the top of the page with the sellers contact info:confused:

I start a thread to discuss what going on and I'm pot stirring:confused: it's not nuked but closed to what make me look like o pot stirring fool? I thought an open discussion so everyone could air their issues was a good idea. Like the Carlisle thread I posted it in the members only forum and now here we are. Would ya look at that!

Like the Carlisle thread I hope there are no hard feelings on either side of the fence when all is said and done. I know it is an improbability, I just hope we can find some common ground to go forward.

I'm not taking sides, all I ask is to make a rule and stick with it across the board. I know you tell everyone to use their judgement, thats the problem. For example when i am comfy around others i cuss like a sailer without even realizing I'm doing it, others would never do that even in private with their best friend.

I do have a question. Since there are a few at the top watching over this site is the nuke button a majority vote or can one persons bad mood run willy nilly?

I am thankful to the site for the joy and friendships it has brought into my life and am looking forward to meeting up again in atlanta:beer:

[justbob]

I am puzzled how any one person could find that pic personally offensive. Not seeing it?

What kind of place has this evolved into?

Also, I wouldn't call that long winded thread any kind of an answer to Jakes questions. Just shut up and do what we say.

Is what it is I guess, but no way to treat hands that feed, both mechanically and financially. Think about that next time you get the urge to delete something that my kid or priest would show ME.

No sore spot towards anyone at all from me, too easy and laid back here. Just existing for awhile with a real bad taste in my mouth.


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"

[Marauderjack]

Hmmmmmm.......what would Logan do??:eek::rolleyes:

I think that the cars are getting old......we've done about all we can to them and they are OBSOLETE so the whole "Car Forum Environment" has shifted to messin' with folks....including the owners!!:cool:

BTW.......I think Logan would shut it down for awhile....or just sell it and move on!!;)

Truthfully....anything other than the car stuff can and will be offensive to someone!!:o

I think Jim has a great idea.....appointed moderators to take the heat off the owners!!:beer:

My $0.02 FWIW??

[maineiac]

I thought we were adults here if i see something i dont like i dont read it if everytime in life i got worked up over something i found offensive i would have been in the looney bin a long time ago.not to say i dont need a trip there,just my opinion.

[MOTOWN]

Ok sign me up to moderate! I guarantee the B.S will stop immediately!

[MOTOWN]

Motown for moderator!

[Blk04MM]

Maybe the site does need new mods if they can't be around to do their job.

If you signed up for it, be there to do it right?

[Spectragod]

Maybe the site does need new mods if they can't be around to do their job.

If you signed up for it, be there to do it right?

The mods own the board, I doubt they are going to sell the board. It's not a job, it is a hobby.

Their board, their rules, if they don't work for you, uhhhhh, you know the answer.

[Vortech347]

If you don't like it. Don't read it. Pretty much the policy in on my stang forum. Only rules are no death or physical threats because its a local forum. That's about it. We have a section specifically for political/religious debate stuff. If people get their feel bads hurt from reading text on a computer they should get their head checked. Our society has become a bunch of ******s because so many people have the ability to restricted voices.

Don't want to get told something mean? Don't post what you did. The world is full of opinions. Positive AND negative.

OMg, see what I mean? I put the plural in for cats. I'll bet the word filter here is 10 pages long.

They make plenty of money on this forum. Look at all the ad banners.

[ctrlraven]

Being a moderator on a forum isn't for everyone, you've got take your own opinions and throw them at the door while being completely unbiased. This means if your good friend does something against the forum rules enough to get them banned then you need to put them on a vacation or ban, no questions asked.

[FX1]

I don't have any boost. Does that mean I don't get laid? Wish I read the original post. I agree with Doom %100. We should be happy that we are all here sharing a common bond of owning or once having a Marauder. If the dispute doesn't end maybe a boxing match at marauder vile would help.

[Bluerauder]

Hmmmmmm.......what would Logan do??:eek::rolleyes:

This ^^^^^ is an easy question. Logan would close or nuke the post or thread completely. No explanations, No apologies. Just a warning.

Repeat offenders were suspended with varied degrees of vacation from 7, 14, 30 days.

Folks that didn't get the message were dropped from the rolls and banned as a member. Logan was savvy enough to pick up new "screennames" for the same old, tired posters and ban them immediately.

Logan had few rules ... the one I remember is that "This is Logan's House. Wipe your feet before entering and don't piss off your host". Short and Sweet. Easy to understand. A bit heavy handed; but understood. It wasn't about "Fairness to All". Logan was the judge, jury and executioner.

The current owners/moderators have taken a "less heavy handed approach" and have tried to let the Forum set and abide by the common ground rules. You see where that has taken us. Everyone wants this to be fair. Some things that wouldn't have made it past Logan's Muster have created a lot of anxiety here.

You've gotten the answer from Mary. Some of you don't like it. Too bad. It doesn't have to be fair. Maybe a return to the Logan Dictator Method will put us back on course. This is NOT a Democracy. You do not get a Vote.

If one of my posts is deleted or nuked, I will know EXACTLY why it happened. Most others also know EXACTLY why their thread was locked or deleted.

Retain your "Boost ...... " signatures at your own peril. You may be trying to make some sort of misguided statement ... but in a week or two, you will be forgotten because your defiance of those who control the site AND the buttons can make you go "POOF". If so, it will have been YOUR CHOICE not THEIRS.

[HiHoSilver]

Someone set up a system in which we the members elect a group of moderators, who we think will be fair. Show the results and present it to the owners if everyone feels they can not keep up. Its obvious they either cant keep up with, or do not care about the political threads. Hey, when something "against the rules" happens to also be your own opinion, it works out for you! What would happen if people started posting PRO Obama threads, Pro democrat threads? I'm sure there would be a lot of angry people, and they might get deleted. I can only speculate.

I know there is a lot of power in numbers, and if there were a large group of people on this site who said, "be fair or we leave this site" they may listen and ,may even resolve the issue. I agree that there need to be at least 5 good moderators. This is a pretty big site!

[MOTOWN]

This ^^^^^ is an easy question. Logan would close or nuke the post or thread completely. No explanations, No apologies. Just a warning.

Repeat offenders were suspended with varied degrees of vacation from 7, 14, 30 days.

Folks that didn't get the message were dropped from the rolls and banned as a member. Logan was savvy enough to pick up new "screennames" for the same old, tired posters and ban them immediately.

Logan had few rules ... the one I remember is that "This is Logan's House. Wipe your feet before entering and don't piss off your host". Short and Sweet. Easy to understand. A bit heavy handed; but understood. It wasn't about "Fairness to All". Logan was the judge, jury and executioner.

The current owners/moderators have taken a "less heavy handed approach" and have tried to let the Forum set and abide by the common ground rules. You see where that has taken us. Everyone wants this to be fair. Some things that wouldn't have made it past Logan's Muster have created a lot of anxiety here.

You gotten the answer from Mary. Some of you don't like it. Too bad. It doesn't have to be fair. Maybe a return to the Logan Dictator Method will put us back on course. This is NOT a Democracy. You do not get a Vote.

If one of my posts is deleted or nuked, I will know EXACTLY why it happened. Most others also know EXACTLY why their thread was locked or deleted.

Retain your "Boost ...... " signatures at your own peril. You may be trying to make some sort of misguided statement ... but in a week or two, you will be forgotten because your defiance of those who control the site AND the buttons can make you go "POOF". If so, it will have been YOUR CHOICE not THEIRS.

Are you Kidding me after the way you :bigcry: about Carlile:confused: not getting attention/support from the owners!

Now its there house there rules? my how soon we forget!:bs:

[Vortech347]

Being a moderator on a forum isn't for everyone, you've got take your own opinions and throw them at the door while being completely unbiased. This means if your good friend does something against the forum rules enough to get them banned then you need to put them on a vacation or ban, no questions asked.

Yup, there are people on my forum I can't stand. That doesn't mean I can just ban them. There have been times when I've given people vacations vacations for something stupid.

I don't understand why so many forums feel more rules/mods are the answer. Its not. Let threads work/wear themselves out. Usually drama dies off after a week or so. Usually it ends up in a great grudge match (race). By getting interference it just fuels the fire!!!

Some people here I'm guessing would have a "OMG MY EYES!!!" heart attack if they saw yellow bullet racing forum. That forum makes this look like a little puppy.

[PonyUP]

This ^^^^^ is an easy question. Logan would close or nuke the post or thread completely. No explanations, No apologies. Just a warning.

Repeat offenders were suspended with varied degrees of vacation from 7, 14, 30 days.

Folks that didn't get the message were dropped from the rolls and banned as a member. Logan was savvy enough to pick up new "screennames" for the same old, tired posters and ban them immediately.

Logan had few rules ... the one I remember is that "This is Logan's House. Wipe your feet before entering and don't piss off your host". Short and Sweet. Easy to understand. A bit heavy handed; but understood. It wasn't about "Fairness to All". Logan was the judge, jury and executioner.

The current owners/moderators have taken a "less heavy handed approach" and have tried to let the Forum set and abide by the common ground rules. You see where that has taken us. Everyone wants this to be fair. Some things that wouldn't have made it past Logan's Muster have created a lot of anxiety here.

You gotten the answer from Mary. Some of you don't like it. Too bad. It doesn't have to be fair. Maybe a return to the Logan Dictator Method will put us back on course. This is NOT a Democracy. You do not get a Vote.

If one of my posts is deleted or nuked, I will know EXACTLY why it happened. Most others also know EXACTLY why their thread was locked or deleted.

Retain your "Boost ...... " signatures at your own peril. You may be trying to make some sort of misguided statement ... but in a week or two, you will be forgotten because your defiance of those who control the site AND the buttons can make you go "POOF". If so, it will have been YOUR CHOICE not THEIRS.

I'm fine with that Charlie, and I don't think my statement is misguided at all. The moral majority to get to run rampant with their opinions and are slowed to start their threads when they have an objection, but because this topic is viewed as childish, we aren't afforded the sane opportunity?

Our point simply is that this post is nowhere near as bad as others posts (some posted by owners) yet it wasn't only closed it was removed.

Yes, their forum, their rules. I wish it wasn't so one sided, but like you said, I don't have to partake in it, and after today I won't.

So people can keep talking politics at their own peril, the only thing that they will accomplish is to continue to alienate people. One day they will wake up and find themselves alone

With Boost, I will never be alone and I will always have a strong core of friends

[breeze]

Mary and other owners.

Can you please help me to understand something? Political and religious threads are not allowed on the site. YOUR RULES!

But yet they pop up ALL THE TIME

Members blatantly break the rules by doing this! Yet most of the time their threads don't even get NUKED! They just get LOCKED! so you can still go back and read them.

I guess those threads don't bother or offend YOU! :rolleyes:

And it doesn't matter if they offend SEVERAL MEMBERS here!

I'm tired of all the Obama bashing, gun control, and overthrow the government threads!!! :mad2:

So are several other members here!!!!!!!

What do you do about those threads??? Because it doesn't offend YOU it doesn't matter and these threads get to live long healthy lives before being CLOSED But not NUKED!

How does that make any sense???

Mary you found something offensive! FINE!!!

What about the crap that us members find offensive THAT BREAK THE SITE RULES and not a God damn thing gets done about it!?

Several members are FED UP! but I guess it doesn't matter because YOU don't find it offensive!? WTF???

Let me be clear! Mary, Bob, Dan, Julie, and Mike! I don't have a problem with any of you! And you know that! Mary the next time I see you I'll pick you up off he ground and give you a big hug like I ways do.

But this **** ain't right!!!

I started a thread "BOOST GETS YOU LAID" for a friend! His wife loved it! Ms. Denmark liked it and didn't find it offensive either. What site rule did I break??? That's what I would like to know?

How is this FAIR?



Preeeeeeach!!!

[Bluerauder]

Yes, their forum, their rules. I wish it wasn't so one sided, but like you said, I don't have to partake in it, and after today I won't.

And that ^^^^ will be a loss to the MM.Net Forums; but it will be your choice. There are things that one should "Fall On Their Sword Over". I don't think that this is one of them. But hey, its your call.

[Bluerauder]

Are you Kidding me after the way you :bigcry: about Carlile:confused: not getting attention/support from the owners!

You can't see the difference?? Oh, OK I see. :rolleyes:

[Spectragod]

Yes, their forum, their rules. I wish it wasn't so one sided, but like you said, I don't have to partake in it, and after today I won't.

So people can keep talking politics at their own peril, the only thing that they will accomplish is to continue to alienate people. One day they will wake up and find themselves alone


Or you will find yourself alone? You are one of the few that keeps bringing up politics, apparently, that is a sore subject for you. Get past it, it's just the internet

You can start your own website and ban who you feel necessary and delete all the posts you like. Honestly, the forum here is not one sided, but if it doesn't go your way, it is, right.

Most of us that post here have had warnings or posts locked/deleted/nuked, accept that you crossed the line and move on, no real need to remove yourself from the board.

[ctrlraven]

Yup, there are people on my forum I can't stand. That doesn't mean I can just ban them. There have been times when I've given people vacations vacations for something stupid.

I don't understand why so many forums feel more rules/mods are the answer. Its not. Let threads work/wear themselves out. Usually drama dies off after a week or so. Usually it ends up in a great grudge match (race). By getting interference it just fuels the fire!!!

Some people here I'm guessing would have a "OMG MY EYES!!!" heart attack if they saw yellow bullet racing forum. That forum makes this look like a little puppy.
Yep or have dedicated section for certain stuff. If it's a section that might offend you then you don't poke your head in and cry when you don't see something you like.

[MOTOWN]

You can't see the difference?? Oh, OK I see. :rolleyes:

Truth got you by the balls:confused:

[PonyUP]

And that ^^^^ will be a loss to the MM.Net Forums; but it will be your choice. There are things that one should "Fall On Their Sword Over". I don't think that this is one of them. But hey, its your call.

Well I'm not saying never, and the boost thing is just a small thing. But series of small thing build in to big things, and im still very cheesed over the dear abbey post to Kyle, I think it was uncalled for, unwarranted and way out of bounds. I think he is owed an apology, especially considering the person posting it, has also started personal threads.

When you add the little things up, much like Bob said, it's not the site I'm used to. It's evolved.

That happens, there are people that were original members that left for much the sane reasons I suspect, though it may have pertained to different topics.

This site should be about the car, but we should be able to share parts of out lives, our experiences, life advice based on personal experience. We should not discuss polarizing topics like politics and guns, and we should keep the fun to pg.

Which brings us to this post, the picture is pg, should not have been nuked.

I'll still lurk around in hopes that we can become what we once were, if the tide starts to roll that way, then I can't wait to get back

[Motorhead350]

Nothing will change.

We have rules, but they are only followed when someone posts an opinion of something different than what management feels is right. Feel like you walked into someones house instead of a public place. The owner of the house will feel certain ways on certain subjects, if you don't see things their way you are asked to leave. See things their way and they will join the discussion. Simple as that.

Sex, drugs and anything else that's "offensive" is offensive to the ones that "decide" it's offensive. Not everyone goes to church, votes conservative and has strict rules when it comes to intercourse... but some do. As long as you are in their sandbox that's the way it is.

I have never been offended by any "one" subject and if I am, I need to simply get outside and forget about it. This is a message board that's taken way too seriously by some. If I cannot discuss "offensive" subjects here I do it on facebook, believe me my opinions fly on ALL offensive matters and some have even unfriended me... so be it.

Ask for reasoning all you want, but you will not get the results you seek.

As far as street racing is concerned, I would think a legal matter erupted and they only way to keep ownership and the site out of hot water is to not allow it to happen. From a legal standpoint it's the right decision, but from a petrolhead POV... screw authority.

[PonyUP]

Or you will find yourself alone? You are one of the few that keeps bringing up politics, apparently, that is a sore subject for you. Get past it, it's just the internet

You can start your own website and ban who you feel necessary and delete all the posts you like. Honestly, the forum here is not one sided, but if it doesn't go your way, it is, right.

Most of us that post here have had warnings or posts locked/deleted/nuked, accept that you crossed the line and move on, no real need to remove yourself from the board.

I didn't post it, just agreeing with the person that did, and if you don't see the politics running amuck are all conservative, than you are either blind or nieve.

I don't think you are either, but to say its not one sides is incorrect. I'm not the only one offended when I see our President referred to as

Oblamo or

One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

Or the hundreds of other things I've seen him called. It has no place here and is clearly against the rules

[MOTOWN]

I didn't post it, just agreeing with the person that did, and if you don't see the politics running amuck are all conservative, than you are either blind or nieve.

I don't think you are either, but to say its not one sides is incorrect. I'm not the only one offended when I see our President referred to as

Oblamo or

One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

Or the hundreds of other things I've seen him called. It has no place here and is clearly against the rules




^^^^^^^^^^^^^very true!

[Motorhead350]

I didn't post it, just agreeing with the person that did, and if you don't see the politics running amuck are all conservative, than you are either blind or nieve.

I don't think you are either, but to say its not one sides is incorrect. I'm not the only one offended when I see our President referred to as

Oblamo or

One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

Or the hundreds of other things I've seen him called. It has no place here and is clearly against the rules




It's because "no one" is "offended" and if someone is offended by this statement, they should simply ignore it. :rolleyes:

[Bluerauder]

Truth got you by the balls:confused:

I don't doubt that you are confused a lot.


... and im still very cheesed over the dear abbey post to Kyle, I think it was uncalled for, unwarranted and way out of bounds.

Go back and read Pat's post. It WAS NOT aimed at Kyle. It just happened to be posted in Kyle's thread. Read the post and try to understand it. He was commenting on ALL of the stuff that pulls us apart. In a way it was even kind of a prediction of this very thread. I've known Pat for several years. I am sure that there was NO ill intent or ill will in that post. I am sure that he meant it as a light hearted jab at the continuing situation of "disharmony" on the site. If you saw a bad intent in that post .... then you can chalk it up to your reading and not his intent.

[PonyUP]

I don't doubt that you are confused a lot.



Go back and read Pat's post. It WAS NOT aimed at Kyle. It just happened to be posted in Kyle's thread. Read the post and try to understand it. He was commenting on ALL of the stuff that pulls us apart. In a way it was even kind of a prediction of this very thread. I've known Pat for several years. I am sure that there was NO ill intent or ill will in that post. I am sure that he meant it as a light hearted jab at the continuing situation of "disharmony" on the site. If you saw a bad intent in that post .... then you can chalk it up to your reading and not his intent.

I'm not the only one that read ill intent in it, especially when he mentioned we should only talk about the car. I don't read it as a light hearted jab, it read as a STFU jab to someone that was venting on a personal situation.

If it was a light hearted jab, it was Ill timed and in poor taste, if it was something more than it's even worse.

Either way, I haven't heard pat say a thing about, though I did hear Paula defend it in the intent that I read it as

[maineiac]

I dont get it everyone is all worked up over,take two steps back, what is typed here,isnt half as bad as when we are in person , we talk and say things way worse than on here,and its called good clean fun.lighten up folks.

[Blk04MM]

The mods own the board, I doubt they are going to sell the board. It's not a job, it is a hobby.

Their board, their rules, if they don't work for you, uhhhhh, you know the answer.

There seem to be no rules ....well rules for certain things. Mod all or mod none

[Blk04MM]

If you don't like it. Don't read it. Pretty much the policy in on my stang forum. Only rules are no death or physical threats because its a local forum. That's about it. We have a section specifically for political/religious debate stuff. If people get their feel bads hurt from reading text on a computer they should get their head checked. Our society has become a bunch of ******s because so many people have the ability to restricted voices.

Don't want to get told something mean? Don't post what you did. The world is full of opinions. Positive AND negative.

OMg, see what I mean? I put the plural in for cats. I'll bet the word filter here is 10 pages long.

They make plenty of money on this forum. Look at all the ad banners.


Don't like don't read does not apply when the "rules" say no.
Your board had a section so if you click to enter, then read ....well you dig you find. That's not the case here.

[Blk04MM]

I didn't post it, just agreeing with the person that did, and if you don't see the politics running amuck are all conservative, than you are either blind or nieve.

I don't think you are either, but to say its not one sides is incorrect. I'm not the only one offended when I see our President referred to as

Oblamo or

One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

Or the hundreds of other things I've seen him called. It has no place here and is clearly against the rules




This..... I agree

[boatmangc]

This site is the main reason I decided to buy a used Marauder, I enjoy the banter as well as the GREAT help from knowledgeable members.
Sure there are a lot of nonsense posts, some political threads and some off color stuff.
When a thread is something I am not interested in I just simply don't read it.
The political stuff does go on further that it should IMHO. Best cure I can offer for that?
If someone posts something politically offensive to you, just don't respond to it, if everybody did that these threads would die a quick and painless death.
I see no way to convince much of anybody think the way I do about certain things and I doubt I or anybody else could in an online forum.

I am sure since the 4 years since I joined here I have probably made a few comments that were not by the book.

But all in all I spend more time here than anywhere else on the WWW.
I try and stay out of the hot and heavy threads because in the end they really accomplish nothing other than getting someones blood pressure up.

Doom, I have always enjoyed pretty much everything I read of yours and hope to meet you in person someday, hopefully in Atlanta in September.

If this site were merely a technical library of our cars and nothing else I would only be here when I had a question or a tech tip.

What I find here is a great group of people, plenty of interesting reading and what I consider to be some good friends.

I will continue to be here and I hope the rest of you will be too.

[L.Mark]

I don't think dropping out of the forum is the answer. That would be a loss for all present and future members. Maybe just sitting back and lurking here for awhile till all this maybe settles. And then try again. The only thing that is going to come out of this volleyball game is more hurt feelings.

[Blk04MM]

This thread will be pages long with no real resolution because its one sided.

It's sad as hell that there are people who are actually trying to go against DOOM whole point. If someone is against making the site equal where they log into daily then they are either the ones posting the bs or really enjoy ignorant childish behavior.

I'm with ya doom and the rest who are standing for this to be equal.

MercuryMarauderChatroom.net

[Blk04MM]

I don't think dropping out of the forum is the answer. That would be a loss for all present and future members. Maybe just sitting back and lurking here for awhile till all this maybe settles. And then try again. The only thing that is going to come out of this volleyball game is more hurt feelings.

Leaving isn't the answer? Why not?!

Someone like Doom supports this site, helps and attends the functions as well as others who are standing with him.

If its not going to change then it's best to leave. No need in constantly posting to get nothing.

[justbob]

I don't doubt that you are confused a lot.



Go back and read Pat's post. It WAS NOT aimed at Kyle. It just happened to be posted in Kyle's thread. Read the post and try to understand it. He was commenting on ALL of the stuff that pulls us apart. In a way it was even kind of a prediction of this very thread. I've known Pat for several years. I am sure that there was NO ill intent or ill will in that post. I am sure that he meant it as a light hearted jab at the continuing situation of "disharmony" on the site. If you saw a bad intent in that post .... then you can chalk it up to your reading and not his intent.

Wrong. If not a personal jab, then why do it in Kyle's post? Why not start a thread. That certainty isn't the Pat I have also personally known for years myself.


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"

[sailsmen]

The ignore list is your friend.;)

Life ain't fair, the sooner you accept it the happier you will be.:D

Don't like the way a business is run, start your own.;)

[justbob]

Leaving isn't the answer? Why not?!

Someone like Doom supports this site, helps and attends the functions as well as others who are standing with him.

If its not going to change then it's best to leave. No need in constantly posting to get nothing.

I'm with you. Why contribute? For the sake of others that won't stand behind something absolutely silly that started this mess? Hell, I'll nuke every how to thread of my own if something don't give here.

The silliness over a simple cartoon pic. UNREAL.


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"

[sailsmen]

.............................. .............................. ..

[L.Mark]

I understand both sides, and support Doom and the others. I just don't want anybody to leave. It sounds like this had been going on for awhile(before my time) so I don't necessarily see it myself or not until it's pointed out. I couldn't even tell you if anything was thrown my way even. I'm a stickler for fairness and will argue with the rest of you. The only reason I'm not is, agian, haven't been around long enough to argue inteligently in my opinion. But I have seen worse on here and other places to warrent a :eek:...and have prolly thrown some of my own into the mix. If this is truely a "family" site then we all should be able to compromise and at least change some of the things that the majority see as unfair. It is true we are just visitors here and do not own it, but as a memeber, each of us do in fact own a little portion of the site wether we are a contributing memebr or not. As other have said, if we aren't here, there is no forum. It was created to bring people together for the car. But didn't Maury say it in Louisville, it changed along the way and became a family. Family argues, laughs, pokes fun AND supports each other. Family also offends each other. That's not ok, but admitting it happened and seeing the other's point of view and changing so it possibly won't happen again is important. There has to be a compromise in all this. Make a change. If something doesn't changes it becomes stagnit and dies. This site has been around what, more than a decade. It will have to change alittle at a time inorder to make it another decade. And hopefully with all the good poeple typing on it today...:)

[jerrym3]

Looking back, it seems to me that there were a lot more Left/Right, pro gun/anti gun forums and posts than there are now.

Or, maybe I just decided to ignore them.

I know that even family gatherings are prone to the same type of discussions which turn into family fights, and that's in an environment where people are "face to face" and are "real" family.

We eventually decided, as a family, not to stir the pot.

In 46 years of marriage, my wife and I never had fights or even heated discussions over politics. Now, we do, and we are taking steps to keep our mouths shut.

Besides, I'd much rather have the TV on at dinnertime tuned to old movies instead of the dreaded 24/7, continuous "breaking news/viewer alert" news-cycle.

I long for the days when the news was on from 6 to 6:15PM.

[PonyUP]

I'm with you. Why contribute? For the sake of others that won't stand behind something absolutely silly that started this mess? Hell, I'll nuke every how to thread of my own if something don't give here.

The silliness over a simple cartoon pic. UNREAL.


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"

Well said Bob, very well said. This may seem like a little thing to stand behind, but it represents a hell of a lot more than the picture itself. Those that don't understand or can't see that, than nothing we say will change your mind. To those that do get it, regardless of which side you fall in with, we thank you for the discussion

[yjmud]

this is truly the end of days if Dom is the voice of reason
and there should be a couple new forums a political one with the same basic rules of mma "protect yourself at all times" and a separate one for guns and knives and if you do not like it don't enter in

[PonyUP]

this is truly the end of days if Dom is the voice of reason
and there should be a couple new forums a political one with the same basic rules of mma "protect yourself at all times" and a separate one for guns and knives and if you do not like it don't enter in

Politics has no place here and political discussions never end well. Talk politics on Facebook or political forums

[Blackmobile]

I have to agree political topics rarely end well.
But I have to say one thing, You guys need to drop the false information "Boost Gets you Laid" thing. I have 2 and IT DOES NOT WORK! :( That's all, I'm going to the garage to pop the hoods and drool some more.

P.S. And why would you want to impress 22 1 year old girls?


Politics has no place here and political discussions never end well. Talk politics on Facebook or political forums

[PonyUP]

I have to agree political topics rarely end well.
But I have to say one thing, You guys need to drop the false information "Boost Gets you Laid" thing. I have 2 and IT DOES NOT WORK! :( That's all, I'm going to the garage to pop the hoods and drool some more.

P.S. And why would you want to impress 22 1 year old girls?

Lol, what's you HP? Since I got boosted in February that part of my life has been 1000 times more active than before


b

[Blackmobile]

460 RWHP and the other half still gets headaches, and sends me off to the garage

[PonyUP]

460 RWHP and the other half still gets headaches, and sends me off to the garage

Escorts are your friend, for the right price anyway

[MrBluGruv]

Escorts are your friend, for the right price anyway




Pro-tip:

Bet her that if you can make her scream louder than the supercharger, the evening is free.

The supercharger will pay itself off ten-fold!

[L.Mark]

Careful, or they'll boost you in another way...:shake:...as in wallet...

[PRCARGUY]

In before the lock! :eek:

[cat in the hat]

Escorts are your friend, for the right price anyway


I am offended by this discussion of unlawful activity.

I am here to discuss art.

[PonyUP]

Pro-tip:

Bet her that if you can make her scream louder than the supercharger, the evening is free.

The supercharger will pay itself off ten-fold!

I only make women scream when I drive a van with a free candy sign, chloroform shuts em up though

[PonyUP]

Thanks for ending it on a light note fellas. Best to you in the future

See ya on the flip side

[L.Mark]

ooo, free candy!!!:banana::banana::banan a:

[MrBluGruv]

I only make women scream when I drive a van with a free candy sign, chloroform shuts em up though





All I saw here was "My Marauder isn't boosted enough yet."


TIME FOR MOAR BOOST!

[HammerDown]

This site is the main reason I decided to buy a used Marauder, I enjoy the banter as well as the GREAT help from knowledgeable members.
Sure there are a lot of nonsense posts, some political threads and some off color stuff.
When a thread is something I am not interested in I just simply don't read it.
The political stuff does go on further that it should IMHO. Best cure I can offer for that?
If someone posts something politically offensive to you, just don't respond to it, if everybody did that these threads would die a quick and painless death.
I see no way to convince much of anybody think the way I do about certain things and I doubt I or anybody else could in an online forum.

I am sure since the 4 years since I joined here I have probably made a few comments that were not by the book.

But all in all I spend more time here than anywhere else on the WWW.
I try and stay out of the hot and heavy threads because in the end they really accomplish nothing other than getting someones blood pressure up.

Doom, I have always enjoyed pretty much everything I read of yours and hope to meet you in person someday, hopefully in Atlanta in September.

If this site were merely a technical library of our cars and nothing else I would only be here when I had a question or a tech tip.

What I find here is a great group of people, plenty of interesting reading and what I consider to be some good friends.

I will continue to be here and I hope the rest of you will be too.


BoatMangc--I agree to all of your comments ^^^^^^^^^

BTW--hope to meet you in Atlanta:)

[CWright]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35 009&d=1373335110 (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35 009&d=1373335110)


I have someone in mind who would be a perfect fit for the other end of that stream!

And it's not an owner!

[L.Mark]

Is he ever gonna stop Peeing??? Did he drink too muck tea or wwhat???

[GAMike]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35 009&d=1373335110 (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35 009&d=1373335110)


I have someone in mind who would be a perfect fit for the other end of that stream!

And it's not an owner!

Hmmmm I wonder who "he" might be............. Does he drive a DTR, Silver Birch, Black or Blue??? I wonder.......

[cat in the hat]

Is he ever gonna stop Peeing??? Did he drink too muck tea or wwhat???

When you activate it, it swivels around and washes the windshield ;)

[GAMike]

When you activate it, it swivels around and washes the windshield ;)

Well at least "he's" good for sumthin:D

[L.Mark]

When you activate it, it swivels around and washes the windshield ;)


Will it reach on longer hoods???:P

[MMBLUE]

Well, some really good reading here!!!!!!!!!!!

Same :bs: as always. :help:

To the veteran members here. Are you really surprised at the reaction of the owners/Mods :confused:.............I'm not. The only way to tolerate this site is to ignore the BS and the touchy feely members on here. Like sailsman said "The ignore button is your friend"

I like Jake and back him 100% but, the truth is, nothing will change here. The only change that you are certain will happen is; your involvement.

I say this because I exercise that option every day on here. Pick what you want or don't want to read.

[DOOM]

Well I guess my question won't get answered.


SHOCKER!!!

[05crownsport]

I feel like sleeping beauty...and I just woke up with 7 dwarves all around me...what does "laid" mean?

[DOOM]

Pick what you want or don't want to read.



:agree:


This should go for the OWNERS as well!



If you don't like it then ignore it!

If the MAJORITY don't have a problem with it then why nuke it!? ESPECIALLY IF SITE RULES AREN'T BROKEN!

[8UWITH6]

Sad stuff.................

Group hug?

[Motorhead350]

Some people do not like to have intercourse or..... haven't in a while.

[DOOM]

Some people do not like to get laid or..... haven't in a while.



Has nothing to do with it Dom!

Owners have an issue with a pic that doesn't bother anyone else then they should take their own advice and ignore it!

[L.Mark]

...majority usually rules...:dunno:

[DOOM]

...majority usually rules...:dunno:



And minority leaves! :wave:

[L.Mark]

unfortunately...true...:shake: ...:alone:

[Blk04MM]

Has nothing to do with it Dom!

Owners have an issue with a pic that doesn't bother anyone else then they should take their own advice and ignore it!


And minority leaves! :wave:

:beer: said so correctly

[DOOM]

I feel like sleeping beauty...and I just woke up with 7 dwarves all around me...what does "laid" mean?



Dwarves are the ultimate midgets!!! :rock:

[Kennyrauder]

Never talk religion or politics & we will get along fine!!!!!!! have we not learned anything in the last 20 centuries? Kenny

[DOOM]

Thank you RF Overlord (Bob) for being the only one to respond to my thread.

Thank you my friend. :beer:

[L.Mark]

Dwarves are the ultimate midgets!!! :rock:


Wasn't there a dwarf called Doomie??? Or maybe it was a Smurf...can't remember...:P

[DOOM]

Will it reach on longer hoods???:P


You'll need the black one for that! ;)

Or biscuits! :P

[L.Mark]

I was thinking the 79 Lincoln for that baby!!!:banana::banana::banana :

[Motorhead350]

Has nothing to do with it Dom!

Owners have an issue with a pic that doesn't bother anyone else then they should take their own advice and ignore it!

True, but the day they start following their own rules 100% and not be selective about it based upon their own views will never happen.

[RubberCtyRauder]

I've only been here at 2 years and don;t even have a 1000 posts yet..but all I can say is it must have some truth to it, just look at this old headline from 2011 in the news from Kitchener Ontario..not all that far from STAP. So take off hosers..:lol:

http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/laid-off-rim-workers-get-boost-gather-for-info-session-1.682905

[Blk04MM]

Looks like guspech750 is gone.

Well looks like this place is crumbling. Time to screenshot the good info

Smh somebody just let me know where to good marauder crowd, inventors, DIY kings and etc goes I'll sign up

[8UWITH6]

Where did Joe go? Is this his choice or the message boards? I am just now walking into all of this.

[yjmud]

[QUOWITH6;1312347]Where did Joe go? Is this his choice or the message boards? I am just now walking into all of this.[/QUOTE]

I guess if you talk about the benefits of being blown earns a vacation:censor::censor::bs:

[gdsqdcr]

I stay because of the good technical info here.

Why don't I contribute to this site?
The dear abbey letter was wrong. I find many posts here offensive, so I don't respond. Do I agree with the 'boost gets you laid' comment, nope ... But o well. Do I agree with the banning and returning of members ... Nope.

This site is crumbling.

I have been a member of car forums for many years now ... The inconsistent message sent by moderators here, is laughable.

I think the owners should not be moderators and that they should nominate a few good folks to be moderators.

I think we should get rid of the members only session so folks are not 'second class' citizens here. Open this place up.



Contributions should be voluntary ... I would even contribute some once in awhile --- i still do at my last car forum.

Make a couple of non-regulated sections and let people rant ...

My two cents.

[8UWITH6]

Ugh........... :shake:

[MM03MOK]

I'm fed up as well, Jake. With an average of 20+ new threads a day and hundreds of posts a day, am I excepected to read everyone of them? Very rarely do we get reports of "bad posts." When we do, we do take action on them. They are not ignored.

At times, I wish I could walk away. The bickering is very draining. But I can't. I have too much time invested here to throw up my arms. We are by no means perfect and our fortitude is tested time and again.

If you will, this is all our problems. Some people take advantage of the sheer volume of content and think they can get away with sliding in threads, knowing they are unacceptable. And everyone posting in the thread is condoning the subject. That doesn't make it right.

In light of this discussion and the obvious need to have more eyes on the content to maintain consistency, we will be asking a few to step up to moderate. Wouldn't it be great to not need to do any moderation but I'm afraid there will always be a handful that want to tempt fate.

And, yes, Jake, I deleted your signature graphic. The three threads you bumped today? Never saw them before or they would have been deleted sooner. Thanks for bringing the to our attention.

Good night...


Mary and other owners.

Can you please help me to understand something? Political and religious threads are not allowed on the site. YOUR RULES!

But yet they pop up ALL THE TIME

Members blatantly break the rules by doing this! Yet most of the time their threads don't even get NUKED! They just get LOCKED! so you can still go back and read them.

I guess those threads don't bother or offend YOU! :rolleyes:

And it doesn't matter if they offend SEVERAL MEMBERS here!

I'm tired of all the Obama bashing, gun control, and overthrow the government threads!!! :mad2:

So are several other members here!!!!!!!

What do you do about those threads??? Because it doesn't offend YOU it doesn't matter and these threads get to live long healthy lives before being CLOSED But not NUKED!

How does that make any sense???

Mary you found something offensive! FINE!!!

What about the crap that us members find offensive THAT BREAK THE SITE RULES and not a God damn thing gets done about it!?

Several members are FED UP! but I guess it doesn't matter because YOU don't find it offensive!? WTF???

Let me be clear! Mary, Bob, Dan, Julie, and Mike! I don't have a problem with any of you! And you know that! Mary the next time I see you I'll pick you up off he ground and give you a big hug like I ways do.

But this **** ain't right!!!

I started a thread "BOOST GETS YOU LAID" for a friend! His wife loved it! Ms. Denmark liked it and didn't find it offensive either. What site rule did I break??? That's what I would like to know?

How is this FAIR?

[Chayton]

I've said over the years I have been here multiple times, there needs to be REAL moderators on this site and let the owners just be owners/Admins who do stuff whenever they are on.

Having 1-2 selected members to be moderators (think Asst Mgr/3rd Key) for each main forum section while having a few super moderators (Manager) to to handle the same tasks and over see the regular moderators it would take some much stress off you and the other owners.

I have been either a moderator or super mod on almost every forum I have been on besides this one and a few others. I have personally seen that it really helps the forum run more efficient when the owner/s or admin have trusted and respected members of the forum help run it and enforce the site policies & rules.


Maybe the site does need new mods if they can't be around to do their job.

If you signed up for it, be there to do it right?


I'm fed up as well, Jake. With an average of 20+ new threads a day and hundreds of posts a day, am I excepected to read everyone of them? Very rarely do we get reports of "bad posts." When we do, we do take action on them. They are not ignored.

At times, I wish I could walk away. The bickering is very draining. But I can't. I have too much time invested here to throw up my arms. We are by no means perfect and our fortitude is tested time and again.

If you will, this is all our problems. Some people take advantage of the sheer volume of content and think they can get away with sliding in threads, knowing they are unacceptable. And everyone posting in the thread is condoning the subject. That doesn't make it right.

In light of this discussion and the obvious need to have more eyes on the content to maintain consistency, we will be asking a few to step up to moderate. Wouldn't it be great to not need to do any moderation but I'm afraid there will always be a handful that want to tempt fate.

And, yes, Jake, I deleted your signature graphic. The three threads you bumped today? Never saw them before or they would have been deleted sooner. Thanks for bringing the to our attention.

Good night...


unfortunately, no website could ever "not need moderation." Glad you're choosing moderators, it will take a lot of the pressure off your shoulders im sure. Then again, who am I to say anything... I drive a crown vic. Im gonna go hide in the corner now.....

[Baconbit]

So what happened to Joe? Temporary or permanent?

[Wags]

Boy, some things just don't change. I just kind of lurk here as I've sold the Marauder some years ago (I think that a_d_a_m is the owner of it now) but it seems that this "disagreement" keeps surfacing every few years or so. Like Dom put it, this is not your sandbox. The owners can delete/not delete and members can agree/disagree but it's a just a website. People seem to take this stuff way to seriously. Stuff that is put in writing can take away many conclusions much different than what the writer had in mind or intended when written. Can't believe that after so long not posting this is the one I respond to. Anyway hope everyone is well and I will still look to see if there are any old car questions to answer. Take care.

Wags

Boost makes you go fast

[CWright]

Temporary vacation.

[ctrlraven]

I'm fed up as well, Jake. With an average of 20+ new threads a day and hundreds of posts a day, am I excepected to read everyone of them? Very rarely do we get reports of "bad posts." When we do, we do take action on them. They are not ignored.

At times, I wish I could walk away. The bickering is very draining. But I can't. I have too much time invested here to throw up my arms. We are by no means perfect and our fortitude is tested time and again.

If you will, this is all our problems. Some people take advantage of the sheer volume of content and think they can get away with sliding in threads, knowing they are unacceptable. And everyone posting in the thread is condoning the subject. That doesn't make it right.

In light of this discussion and the obvious need to have more eyes on the content to maintain consistency, we will be asking a few to step up to moderate. Wouldn't it be great to not need to do any moderation but I'm afraid there will always be a handful that want to tempt fate.

And, yes, Jake, I deleted your signature graphic. The three threads you bumped today? Never saw them before or they would have been deleted sooner. Thanks for bringing the to our attention.

Good night...

Thank you Mary :beer:

[vkirkend]

The mods own the board, I doubt they are going to sell the board. It's not a job, it is a hobby.

Their board, their rules, if they don't work for you, uhhhhh, you know the answer.


I believe the owners are doing the best they can. People remember this is not their main business!!! Let's just enjoy the people and the cars. And the amazing thing to me is the numbe rof people commenting on this issue that are not supporting the site financially. I'd like to see more flags from the people that are complaining. Just my 2 cents....

[fastblackmerc]

I'll volunteer as a moderator.

[PonyUP]

I believe the owners are doing the best they can. People remember this is not their main business!!! Let's just enjoy the people and the cars. And the amazing thing to me is the numbe rof people commenting on this issue that are not supporting the site financially. I'd like to see more flags from the people that are complaining. Just my 2 cents....

To be fair, the person starting this thread is a five flag supporter, and has helped more people here than can be counted. Joe who was given a vacation over this (which I find to be wrong) is also a five flag supporter as am I.

We know the owners do the best they can, but haven't seen that effort in political threads.

Also, what I find wrong Mary, is you called out Joe in a thread, closed it right away so no one could respond, and then put him on vacation so he couldn't respond. It's sad that the bunny responds with angry bunny, instead of letting us talk it out.

Peace out


Boost gets you ****

[vkirkend]

To be fair, the person starting this thread is a five flag supporter, and has helped more people here than can be counted. Joe who was given a vacation over this (which I find to be wrong) is also a five flag supporter as am I.

We know the owners do the best they can, but haven't seen that effort in political threads.

Also, what I find wrong Mary, is you called out Joe in a thread, closed it right away so no one could respond, and then put him on vacation so he couldn't respond. It's sad that the bunny responds with angry bunny, instead of letting us talk it out.

Peace out


Boost gets you ****


Not disputing what you're sayin' just want this site to thrive. The members are the site.

[PonyUP]

Not disputing what you're sayin' just want this site to thrive. The members are the site.

So do we which is why we are bringing this up

[kernie]

I stay because of the good technical info here.

Why don't I contribute to this site?
The dear abbey letter was wrong. I find many posts here offensive, so I don't respond. Do I agree with the 'boost gets you ****' comment, nope ... But o well. Do I agree with the banning and returning of members ... Nope.

This site is crumbling.

I have been a member of car forums for many years now ... The inconsistent message sent by moderators here, is laughable.

I think the owners should not be moderators and that they should nominate a few good folks to be moderators.

I think we should get rid of the members only session so folks are not 'second class' citizens here. Open this place up.



Contributions should be voluntary ... I would even contribute some once in awhile --- i still do at my last car forum.

Make a couple of non-regulated sections and let people rant ...

My two cents.


I agree with the above highlighted. I can afford flags but refuse to play this ugly game where some of the flag people feel superior and degrade the non-flag people. Want examples? There are five or six in this thread alone.

I respect the owners here, it's their site to do as they wish. Make it a pay only site or a non-pay site IMO.

Go ahead, blast away, it's my opinion, i'm still entitled to it.

:beer:

[Curless]

I agree with the above highlighted. I can afford flags but refuse to play this ugly game where some of the flag people feel superior and degrade the non-flag people. Want examples? There are five or six in this thread alone.

I respect the owners here, it's their site to do as they wish. Make it a pay only site or a non-pay site IMO.

Go ahead, blast away, it's my opinion, i'm still entitled to it.

:beer:

No blasting, you are right, you are allowed your own feelings.:beer:

[MM03MOK]

Also, what I find wrong Mary, is you called out Joe in a thread, closed it right away so no one could respond, and then put him on vacation so he couldn't respond. It's sad that the bunny responds with angry bunny, instead of letting us talk it out.

No response was necessary from the Membership. Y'all had already done a good job of talking it out since there were 83 posts in that thread. Joe received an email about our actions.




I think we should get rid of the members only session so folks are not 'second class' citizens here. Open this place up.


I would be glad to entertain that thought in the Members Only forum.



Contributions should be voluntary ... I would even contribute some once in awhile --- i still do at my last car forum.

Contributions have always and forever been voluntary. Access to a Members Only forum, additional Gallery space for photos and the ability to send PMs to multiple people are the few benefits for a Contributing Member, whose donations help keep the lights on here. We appreciate the support and are able to show our appreciation, in return, by supporting Marauderville and many other larger gatherings of MM.Net Members. It is not our intent to segregate the "haves" and "have nots."

[L.Mark]

Where's this "Member's Only" forum??? I had no idea this animal existed...

[MM2004]

Where's this "Member's Only" forum??? I had no idea this animal existed...

Bill,

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=43

;)

Mike.

[ctrlraven]

Honestly a true Members Only section could solve some problems, let that section have somewhat free reign on topics that would not be allowed to the general public members.

This is one way forum owners can avoid legal issues as well since it's a paid service and buying the membership (usually best to do annual renews) means you agree to the TOS (terms of service) where the owners are not held responsible. Of course there would be some main rules that would carry over but it could relive a lot of tension where people do want to have an adult discussion about topics that would not be allowed in general public.

This can be a win-win for everyone, the site will have more funds coming in to help cover operation costs, allow for more improvements/feature of the forum and let those who choose to post and those who choose to stick their head in a thread and read the posts that can' cry or complain as long as there is no nudity, threats, or racism.

[RF Overlord]

So what you're saying is that we should have a section with no rules...where people can say literally anything?

What would be the point? This is a CAR site...why do people need to post here about sex, guns, government cover-ups, or anything else? Why do people feel the need to post pictures of a highly sexual nature? Aren't there at least a million sites out there that specialize in each of those things? Why does any of it need to be HERE?

I do admit we haven't always been consistent with what is allowed and what is deleted, and we are taking steps to help alleviate that issue, but my comments above stand on their own right. We wouldn't be having this entire discussion if some people didn't feel the need to post potentially inflammatory material that has NOTHING to do with the car.

[L.Mark]

Bill,

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=43

;)

Mike.


Thanks...:)

[maineiac]

All this bitchin about political threads and this one is all politics just not govt. politics think about it.

[ctrlraven]

So what you're saying is that we should have a section with no rules...where people can say literally anything?

What would be the point? This is a CAR site...why do people need to post here about sex, guns, government cover-ups, or anything else? Why do people feel the need to post pictures of a highly sexual nature? Aren't there at least a million sites out there that specialize in each of those things? Why does any of it need to be HERE?

I do admit we haven't always been consistent with what is allowed and what is deleted, and we are taking steps to help alleviate that issue, but my comments above stand on their own right. We wouldn't be having this entire discussion if some people didn't feel the need to post potentially inflammatory material that has NOTHING to do with the car.
That's not what I said, what I am saying is allow the "no-no" topics to be discussed in a section where members have paid a membership to as part of their membership benefit. There would still be rules and moderation.

Some people are quite happy with just coming on here and talking about cars. Then there are quite a lot of people who like to talk about other topics with their friends/family that are on this site.

[gpfarrell]

Man, I wish could have that 20 minutes back.

Like the rest of life, I focus on what I enjoy here and dismiss the rest.

I don't have to agree with you. You don't have to agree with me. We can still move along.

It ain't worth fightin' over, and if you fight the folks that take care of the place sooner or later they'll decide it ain't worth takin' care of and you won't have a place anymore.

I'd rather read about the difference between a 300A and 300B again. Anybody see a 300C? They're really different.

[massacre]

Stuff like this is what has really soured me on Panther forums.

I don't experience this stuff on Mustang forums(well most of them anyway lol).

[PonyUP]

So what you're saying is that we should have a section with no rules...where people can say literally anything?

What would be the point? This is a CAR site...why do people need to post here about sex, guns, government cover-ups, or anything else? Why do people feel the need to post pictures of a highly sexual nature? Aren't there at least a million sites out there that specialize in each of those things? Why does any of it need to be HERE?

I do admit we haven't always been consistent with what is allowed and what is deleted, and we are taking steps to help alleviate that issue, but my comments above stand on their own right. We wouldn't be having this entire discussion if some people didn't feel the need to post potentially inflammatory material that has NOTHING to do with the car.

Consistent isn't the right word Bob. When it comes to politics you guys have pretty much taken a hands off approach.

The whole point of this is to not limit discussion to the car. As has been said many times, we are a family and families talk about more than why they are related.

I want to hear about people's experiences, if they are struggling in their personal life, as a brother I want to help. I want to be able to joke around and laugh with my family, and share things with them

The moral majority on this site seems hell bent to take away the fun. Now we will be accused of starting drama with this, but it's really no different than any of the other drama threads started by that sane moral authority.

I give up. It has been said if you leave, then they win.

Yup, you win. I'm too damn tired to fight anymore, and in too damn busy to try.

Congratulations on your victory

Over and out, I'm not the only one either

You guys still don't understand and aren't really making an effort to either

AngryPony riding into the sunset


Boost gets you banned

[beantown mm]

Man, I wish could have that 20 minutes back.

Like the rest of life, I focus on what I enjoy here and dismiss the rest.

I don't have to agree with you. You don't have to agree with me. We can still move along.

It ain't worth fightin' over, and if you fight the folks that take care of the place sooner or later they'll decide it ain't worth takin' care of and you won't have a place anymore.

I'd rather read about the difference between a 300A and 300B again. Anybody see a 300C? They're really different.



+ Infinity

Holy crap, I have been trying to think of the best way to say this also since this whole thing came up.

Bottom line is don't like, don't worry about it, this is not the floor of the Senate or a court proceeding for child custody etc., battles here are not won or lost, and if they are, who cares, if you let a car forum hurt your feelings then I can't comment on that, this place doesn't have to be fair to all, it would take WAY TOO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT TO EVER GET THERE, and who decides fair, each one of us has their own definition of fair, so man, decide your own way and jump into what you want and leave the rest alone, enjoy the site for what it is, let the owners do what they do and on we go, this is a car forum, the seriousness that goes on here is way too serious sometimes, if that makes any sense.

[Bluerauder]

I think we should get rid of the members only section so folks are not 'second class' citizens here. Open this place up.

I think that you might be disappointed with what you might find in the "Supporting Members" section. You would have to brush the cobwebs away. Post count isn't even worth mentioning.

[Spectragod]

Uhhmmm, wow, what a whole bunch of horse s**t, it's the owners board to do as they choose, if you choose to be a supporting member, that's fine, if not, that's fine too. Now we are whining about a "members only" section, and people don't have access? Be a supporting member, you can have access, big deal. I guess it all should be free?

The owners of the board should rely on vendors to pay for their site, while the children that want it all for free, get to have their cake and eat it too. Dod someone buy you a free Marauder? Certainly, same said people would not have paid money for a car, it should be free, others have one.

Personally, I am not taking sides, but I do see the board owners side a lot more clearly than a group that wants it their own way.

I say, let them have at it, I am tired of the bullshi*, I can solve my problem with it, those who know me, know how to contact me, I don't need the board for that......

Best wishes to those that run the board, I would have run it like Logan, weed out the kids.......

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

All you old guys are too dramatic. Back to the chicago garage forums for me..

[Motorhead350]

All you old guys are too dramatic. Back to the chicago garage forums for me..

LOL

Keep Calm and drive like Steve McQueen.

LOL

[MMBLUE]

Can't we all just get along :confused:

"BOOST GETS YOU MORE BOOST" the more you stick it (your foot in the throttle body) the harder it gets (to drive the car from all the HP) :beer:

[MinnesotaMM]

I am still kind of a newbie here but I think this forum is great!!!
Don't let people with different opinions get ya down, because that's just part of life!
I mostly read the Marauder talk but the other stuff is entertaining as well.

In the end, if you get really, really upset by something someone typed on the internet, on a car specific forum.......you probably need to evaluate the important things in your life.

[gdsqdcr]

I think that you might be disappointed with what you might find in the "Supporting Members" section. You would have to brush the cobwebs away. Post count isn't even worth mentioning.

Supported for one year so I saw it ... Did not find it worth the funds. I got nothing from it ... Nope I do not attend the big events, but far from California. Don't send PM's to multiple people. So for me, not a good return in my investment.

As for where a site gets money ... Lets see, vendors are a big one. People will donate from time to time to keep the site running -- seen it and done it. Charge folks to sell parts ... We well a lot of them here. Maybe $5 per add ... Give something back to the site that is allowing you to make money on what you are selling THROUGH the site.

Whining about members only section, no ... Just an observation.

As for its the owners board ... They own if but if no one is here, it is worth nothing. If the major players decide to take a leave of absence from this place because of all this drama, others will leave ... Just saying.

Peace all!

[cat in the hat]

Ok, it looks like everybody else left, so I guess that means I'm in charge now, mother****ers.

[J-MAN]

So, now that that's settled.

A prostitute a rabbi and a politician walk into a bar......

[L.Mark]

Soooo, who all has left and who all are on "vacation" just to keep it straight in my head..

[cat in the hat]

Soooo, who all has left and who all are on "vacation" just to keep it straight in my head..

You can't just ask like that, you have to say it in code, like in a Mafia comedy.
For example :

"You guys know why the 'Spaghetti Man' did what he did . . .

"Johnny the Nose' posted about this on the 'South Philly Caddy' forum . . .

"I'm not going to talk about it, just Google 'Vinegar and Water' . . .

[Ken]

Damn, I take sixteen days off .net, and all hell breaks loose! :confused:

[L.Mark]

You can't just ask like that, you have to say it in code, like in a Mafia comedy.
For example :

"You guys know why the 'Spaghetti Man' did what he did . . .

"Johnny the Nose' posted about this on the 'South Philly Caddy' forum . . .

"I'm not going to talk about it, just Google 'Vinegar and Water' . . .

Ok, sooo who took a dive in the cement pond, and who just has their feet in the water???:D

[cat in the hat]

Ok, sooo who took a dive in the cement pond, and who just has their feet in the water???:D

Who knows. Friends and family give each other agita sometimes . . . hopefully, nobody takes it to heart - everybody goes and digests a little, and comes back for a cannoli ;)

[Invader]

Never mind you answer is posted here...

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88161

Sorry I couldn't help myself! Lmao! http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/10/y2eju2a9.jpg

[Blackened300a]

Just so I have the facts straight. For the last two years this site has had 1000's of posts containing Gay innuendo, sexually suggestive topics with TWSS, old thread reviving, and complete thread derailing all of which breaks the forum rules, but a suggestive cartoon picture causes all hell to break loose?? :confused:

Is there a second set of rules that were added after I signed up in 2005?

[Bigdogjim]

Just so I have the facts straight. For the last two years this site has had 1000's of posts containing Gay innuendo, sexually suggestive topics with TWSS, old thread reviving, and complete thread derailing all of which breaks the forum rules, but a suggestive cartoon picture causes all hell to break loose?? :confused:

Is there a second set of rules that were added after I signed up in 2005?

I was waiting for someone to point this out! The threads about some topics are pretty much all innuendo's but the members see nothing wrong with this? As far as derailing threads train wrecks are very common here:)

Now I am thinking maybe we need a TV movie of the week about the drama here:lol:

[Comin' in Hot]

I was waiting for someone to point this out! The threads about some topics are pretty much all innuendo's but the members see nothing wrong with this? As far as derailing threads train wrecks are very common here:)

Now I am thinking maybe we need a TV movie of the week about the drama here:lol:

It could be called,"As the Supercharger Whines"

[tbone]

I was going to say something deep until I realized that most everyone doesn't read past the first sentence or two.......

Come on everyone!? Give it a rest! :beer:

[jerrym3]

I have drinks at least twice per month with two friends of mine from my grammar school days.

We graduated in 1956. (Yes, there were public schools back then.) In our kindergarten class picture, taken in 1947, one guy is standing next to me.)

When we meet, we absolutely refuse to talk politics, gun control, FOX/CNN/MSNBC/Rush/Hannity/Matthews/O'Reilly, etc.

It's just not worth risking friendships that have lasted over 65 years.

(But, to be completely honest, we do discuss the Fox ladies.)

[ctrlraven]

Just so I have the facts straight. For the last two years this site has had 1000's of posts containing Gay innuendo, sexually suggestive topics with TWSS, old thread reviving, and complete thread derailing all of which breaks the forum rules, but a suggestive cartoon picture causes all hell to break loose?? :confused:

Is there a second set of rules that were added after I signed up in 2005?
+1

Oh and don't forget the newest trend this year "$8.00".

[kernie]

I really don't understand the 'revolt', as Jerry said, political threads are rare these days. Gasoline threads may get political but that subject is relevant to our cars. Someone said Logan would deal with issues with a heavy hand, don't like it too bad, how else can it be? I'm sure Judge Judy is not right all the time but how else can you get that job done?

:beer:

[Motorhead350]

Guys. Get out and drive your cars.

This is a message board, not an Elks Lodge meeting.

[Bigdogjim]

Funny I always though of it as Moose Lodge:)

[Invader]

Ok, so let me get this right... They want us to donate $$$ to help keep the lights on. But we can't sit on any of the furniture that's not covered in plastic??? That's kinda one side ish. Now don't get me wrong there needs to be rules, but it's not Grandma and Grandpas world anymore. The new Generation is here! And we own Marauders! I've read in a few posts that we should have Over 21 under 60 area on the forum. I watch my mouth in my mothers house. But in the garage we should be able to talk and act like men. ( or women. ) if you need $$$ for that I'm sure myself and 75% of MM.net members would be more than happy to pitch in. I'm really not trying to cause waves or to be ungrateful. I'm just a no BS kinda guy. And it seems here lately we've had a lot of that on here.....http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/10/ja9abune.jpg

[ctrlraven]

Ok, so let me get this right... They want us to donate $$$ to help keep the lights on. But we can't sit on any of the furniture that's not covered in plastic??? That's kinda one side ish. Now don't get me wrong there needs to be rules, but it's not Grandma and Grandpas world anymore. The new Generation is here! And we own Marauders! I've read in a few posts that we should have Over 21 under 60 area on the forum. I watch my mouth in my mothers house. But in the garage we should be able to talk and act like men. ( or women. ) if you need $$$ for that I'm sure myself and 75% of MM.net members would be more than happy to pitch in. I'm really not trying to cause waves or to be ungrateful. I'm just a no BS kinda guy. And it seems here lately we've had a lot of that on here.....http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/10/ja9abune.jpg
None of the owners have said it's required or asked for for any of us to donate to the site, it's strictly a volunteer thing if you wish to help support the site, that's it.

[Invader]

None of the owners have said it's required or asked for for any of us to donate to the site, it's strictly a volunteer thing if you wish to help support the site, that's it.

I understood it... I'm just saying...

[fastblackmerc]

Ok, so let me get this right... They want us to donate $$$ to help keep the lights on. But we can't sit on any of the furniture that's not covered in plastic??? That's kinda one side ish. Now don't get me wrong there needs to be rules, but it's not Grandma and Grandpas world anymore. The new Generation is here! And we own Marauders! I've read in a few posts that we should have Over 21 under 60 area on the forum. I watch my mouth in my mothers house. But in the garage we should be able to talk and act like men. ( or women. ) if you need $$$ for that I'm sure myself and 75% of MM.net members would be more than happy to pitch in. I'm really not trying to cause waves or to be ungrateful. I'm just a no BS kinda guy. And it seems here lately we've had a lot of that on here.....http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/10/ja9abune.jpg

No body has to donate anything.

The only things you get with a donation is access to the "SUPER SECRET: Supporting Member Forum...... Your not missing anything.

Just in case no body has read the rules that you agreed to when you signed up here they are: (NOTE: I added the highlights)

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[N40GL]

I just finished reading every post on here - they cover a lot of ground. My take? (1) I agree with a lot of what Jake said, (2) I also agree with a lot of what Charlie said, and (3) I can appreciate the difficulty of administering the Board like Bob, Mary and Mike (and Dan) try to do effectively.

Also, as I read this, I recall the circumstances that lead the Michigan guys to break off and form their own board (MCM), free of moderation and interference. What do you hear over there now? Crickets. That's an indicator that unbridled posting is perhaps not a good thing.

The concept that Bob raised early on (and was echoed by Mike and Mary) that resonates the most is how difficult it is to actually moderate all the postings on the Board. With hundreds (thousands?) of postings going up every day, I can't see how Bob, Mary, Dan and Mike have the bandwidth to manage them individually. I used to be on a board like that (it actually was a Yahoo group). Because there were 16 moderators, every single post went through Quality Control. That means whatever I posted might not show up for a week until someone reviewed it. So that level of detailed scrutiny is not an option here.

My opinon (FWIW, perhaps nothing) is that I believe each and every one of us has a responsibility to the Board, as members, to keep things on the rails. We're all part of the Marauder community, and as such we each collectively 'own' the content of the entire Board. Where we may not have the power to delete posts or threads or signatures, we share the responsibility to keep the Board active, alive, and of interest to people so they don't have to close their eyes or grit their teeth when they scroll through a post.

Bob's statement of "use the damn button" is a good one. If we call attention to posts that we may find questionable to each of us, then it starts a review process for the 4 owners. They can decide if the pendulum has moved too far one way or the other and react accordingly. But we each share a collective responsibility to get the process started.

The old adage always was "don't discuss politics or religion." Those are always flammable topics, and for every one who has an opinion, there is always one who has a counter-opinion and is not afraid to argue his cause. That just seems to me a recipe fraught with disaster. And it's easily avoided. My political opinions about Obama, Bush, taxes, welfare and a hundred other political topics don't belong here, because they are magnetically attractive. If I say something about a topic, surely there will be people with opposite views jumping on it, and then it just degenerates from there ("Mark's wrong, and here's why;" Mark's right and here's why;" "No, Mark's wrong, and here's more of why, and you are an (insert favorite insult here);" and so forth). IMHO, its distracting, annoying, and causes people to form opinions about other people based on the silliest bit of evidence. That's why mine stay in my pocket. Your mileage may vary.

Remember - this thing isn't a "business." Logan wanted to sell the Board shortly after he sold his Marauder and bought a Cadillac CTS (STS?). If the Board wasn't "bought," it would have folded completely and disapeared. We owe Mike, Dan, Mary and Bob a great deal of thanks for allowing the Board to still exist when the original owner lost interest. Even with all that, the Board is, at best, a hobby. All four 'owners' have full time jobs and families and commitments that take them away from the Board. So we do what we can to help, like clicking the "Report Post" button when we find what each of us considers questionable content.

We owe it to the collective membership to do what we should, to make this a vibrant place for everyone to participate. And that includes, where the 'owners' haven't found it yet, calling something to their attention. As I said, we have a collective responsibility to everyone else here, and we can't abdicate or transfer that responsibility to the owners, and then get irritated when they don't operate the way we think they should. If you don't get involved, then you can't complain. It's similar to people that don't vote complaining about the person elected. If they cared enough about who got elected, they should vote. Otherwise, IMHO, they've surrendered the right to complain.

The only person who will always do what you want done is YOU. Step up to your responsibility, and be accountable. Period.

[Ms. Denmark]

So refreshing to hear the voice of reason and sanity, Mark. Thank you!

[fastblackmerc]

I just finished reading every post on here - they cover a lot of ground. My take? (1) I agree with a lot of what Jake said, (2) I also agree with a lot of what Charlie said, and (3) I can appreciate the difficulty of administering the Board like Bob, Mary and Mike (and Dan) try to do effectively.

Also, as I read this, I recall the circumstances that lead the Michigan guys to break off and form their own board (MCM), free of moderation and interference. What do you hear over there now? Crickets. That's an indicator that unbridled posting is perhaps not a good thing.

The concept that Bob raised early on (and was echoed by Mike and Mary) that resonates the most is how difficult it is to actually moderate all the postings on the Board. With hundreds (thousands?) of postings going up every day, I can't see how Bob, Mary, Dan and Mike have the bandwidth to manage them individually. I used to be on a board like that (it actually was a Yahoo group). Because there were 16 moderators, every single post went through Quality Control. That means whatever I posted might not show up for a week until someone reviewed it. So that level of detailed scrutiny is not an option here.

My opinon (FWIW, perhaps nothing) is that I believe each and every one of us has a responsibility to the Board, as members, to keep things on the rails. We're all part of the Marauder community, and as such we each collectively 'own' the content of the entire Board. Where we may not have the power to delete posts or threads or signatures, we share the responsibility to keep the Board active, alive, and of interest to people so they don't have to close their eyes or grit their teeth when they scroll through a post.

Bob's statement of "use the damn button" is a good one. If we call attention to posts that we may find questionable to each of us, then it starts a review process for the 4 owners. They can decide if the pendulum has moved too far one way or the other and react accordingly. But we each share a collective responsibility to get the process started.

The old adage always was "don't discuss politics or religion." Those are always flammable topics, and for every one who has an opinion, there is always one who has a counter-opinion and is not afraid to argue his cause. That just seems to me a recipe fraught with disaster. And it's easily avoided. My political opinions about Obama, Bush, taxes, welfare and a hundred other political topics don't belong here, because they are magnetically attractive. If I say something about a topic, surely there will be people with opposite views jumping on it, and then it just degenerates from there ("Mark's wrong, and here's why;" Mark's right and here's why;" "No, Mark's wrong, and here's more of why, and you are an (insert favorite insult here);" and so forth). IMHO, its distracting, annoying, and causes people to form opinions about other people based on the silliest bit of evidence. That's why mine stay in my pocket. Your mileage may vary.

Remember - this thing isn't a "business." Logan wanted to seel the Board shortly after he sold his Marauder and bought a Cadillac CTS (STS?). If the Board wasn't "bought," it would have folded completely and disapeared. We owe Mike, Dan, Mary and Bob a great deal of thanks for allowing the Board to still exist when the original owner lost interest. Even with all that, the Board is, at best, a hobby. All four 'owners' have full time jobs and families and commitments that take them away from the Board. So we do what we can to help, like clicking the "Report Post" button when we find what each of us considers questionable content.

We owe it to the collective membership to do what we should, to make this a vibrant place for everyone to participate. And that includes, where the 'owners' haven't found it yet, calling something to their attention. As I said, we have a collective responsibility to everyone else here, and we can't abdicate or transfer that responsibility to the owners, and then get irritated when they don't operate the way we think they should. If you don't get involved, then you can't complain. It's similar to people that don't vote complaining about the person elected. If they cared enough about who got elected, they should vote. Otherwise, IMHO, they've surrendered the right to complain.

The only person who will always do what you want done is YOU. Step up to your responsibility, and be accountable. Period.

Well said. I agree 1000%!

We need to stop being the United States of the Offended!

[Bluerauder]

Remember - this thing isn't a "business." Logan wanted to sell the Board shortly after he sold his Marauder and bought a Cadillac CTS (STS?). If the Board wasn't "bought," it would have folded completely and disappeared. We owe Mike, Dan, Mary and Bob a great deal of thanks for allowing the Board to still exist when the original owner lost interest. Even with all that, the Board is, at best, a hobby. All four 'owners' have full time jobs and families and commitments that take them away from the Board. So we do what we can to help, like clicking the "Report Post" button when we find what each of us considers questionable content.

The only person who will always do what you want done is YOU. Step up to your responsibility, and be accountable. Period.

A big +1 Mark on everything you said. And, thanks for the reminder ^^^^ above about a thanks to the current owners for stepping in when the lights started to flicker out about 7-8 years ago. :up:

[jflave]

:dunno: I just want to do a 10 second quarter mile & one day i will with the help of all guys. :)

[SC Cheesehead]

So refreshing to hear the voice of reason and sanity, Mark. Thank you!


Well said. I agree 1000%!

We need to stop being the United States of the Offended!


A big +1 Mark on everything you said. And, thanks for the reminder ^^^^ above about a thanks to the current owners for stepping in when the lights started to flicker out about 7-8 years ago. :up:

^^^^^^^ Spot on, folks.

And with that comment, I'm all done with this thread.

[MMBLUE]

You hit the nail on the head Mark. You say what I was thinking ( only your better at it )

After spending time away from here for 5 months (self induced) I now read what I want and refuse to get sucked into the taunting tactics that some on here do deliberately. Ignore button IS my friend.;)

[Krytin]

You hit the nail on the head Mark. You say what I was thinking ( only your better at it )

After spending time away from here for 5 months (self induced) I now read what I want and refuse to get sucked into the taunting tactics that some on here do deliberately. Ignore button IS my friend.;)

I was waiting to see who would finally get to this.
It's the best feature on this site to keep you from getting POed!

[Baaad GN]

Gee I'm on my second bowl of popcorn and have not been deleted once!

[jerrym3]

You can usually tell pretty quickly if someone is going off the deep end with a particular post.

So, rather than use the ignore button, and possibly miss a future interesting post/subject/comment from that individual, I just skip past the incendiary bomb or ignore that thread completely.

I am as guilty as anybody when it comes to "defending my turf" and slinging stuff back and forth, but I decided a while ago that life's way too short to get involved in internet wars.

[Motorhead350]

this is truly the end of days if Dom is the voice of reason.


So refreshing to hear the voice of reason and sanity, Mark. Thank you!

My name is Dominick.

:)

[Ms. Denmark]

My name is Dominick.

:) You're right. Point taken. ;)

[nh muscle]

Doom was right with his very first post obama is the worst president ever , everyone should own a gun and the government should be downsized. Right on bro!

[1 Bad Merc]

My name is Dominick.

:)

Dont pay attention to the man named Dominick behind the curtain......I AM The GREAT And POWERFUL OZ !!!!!!!!!!:eek:

[Blk04MM]

Pineapples!!!!

[ROCOB]

this thread is

[Bigdogjim]

Hey Rex thought you were done with this thread? :lol:

Everybody loves a train wreck!:)

[GreekGod]

I just went through all the posts and didn't get to see any banned stuff - someone please PM me the banned text & photos!!!??? ... otherwise, I wasted all my time trying to see the verboten!

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