Car died while driving, will not start.

[Motorhead350]

I was driving doing about 40mph when I heard a squeaky noise and it kept getting worse. The engine shut off and my gages went crazy for a second.

I pull over pop the hood and everything looks normal. No leaks, no burnt smell, no oil leaking... nothing. I check the oil and no metal and it smells fine.

I go to start it and it will not fire up. it cranks, but only for maybe 1/10th of a cycle. Holding the key in the start position will NOT keep the car turning over. I had a set of jumper cables on it for 20 minutes and nothing. Heck, the hood light didn't even get brighter upon hook up.

The tow truck driver told me to pull the plugs because pressure might be stuck... I doubt it. Right now I am waiting for the car to cool down before I try to get this thing back on the road.

The engine is not frozen, it will still crank, but only for a second. Pretty much one crank and it stops. Holding the key down will not keep the continuation going, it stops on its own. It's acting like it has no spark.

I was reading about another member with a bad wire to the starter or something, but this happened while driving... could i have the same issue? The starter is still moving the flywheel, so as usual I am confused.

Any and all help is appreciated.

Thank you all so much.

[fastblackmerc]

I was driving doing about 40mph when I heard a squeaky noise and it kept getting worse. The engine shut off and my gages went crazy for a second.

I pull over pop the hood and everything looks normal. No leaks, no burnt smell, no oil leaking... nothing. I check the oil and no metal and it smells fine.

I go to start it and it will not fire up. it cranks, but only for maybe 1/10th of a cycle. Holding the key in the start position will NOT keep the car turning over. I had a set of jumper cables on it for 20 minutes and nothing. Heck, the hood light didn't even get brighter upon hook up.

The tow truck driver told me to pull the plugs because pressure might be stuck... I doubt it. Right now I am waiting for the car to cool down before I try to get this thing back on the road.

The engine is not frozen, it will still crank, but only for a second. Pretty much one crank and it stops. Holding the key down will not keep the continuation going, it stops on its own. It's acting like it has no spark.

I was reading about another member with a bad wire to the starter or something, but this happened while driving... could i have the same issue? The starter is still moving the flywheel, so as usual I am confused.

Any and all help is appreciated.

Thank you all so much.

He was not getting the starter to crank so it's not the same.

Check all the battery connections and the grounds. If the hood light didn't get brighter then it could be a bad connection.

How old is the battery?

Then I'd pull the plugs and see if it will crank over.

[Comin' in Hot]

and the world is back to normal lol..... jk i would start with the battery and the cables

[WhatsUpDOHC]

Sorry to hear of your troubles.

You know, you jinxed it.... ;)

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88117

[Motorhead350]

He was not getting the starter to crank so it's not the same.

Check all the battery connections and the grounds. If the hood light didn't get brighter then it could be a bad connection.

How old is the battery?

Then I'd pull the plugs and see if it will crank over.

Battery is from a junkyard, but it all seems fine.

I will swipe the wifes and see if it fires up. If so i am getting a NEW battery.

Plugs will be pulled tomorrow.

[Ken]

When the alternator on my truck went bad, just before the truck died, the gauges went crazy. Did the alternator start going bad, draining the battery, then seize up? Just my guess :confused:

[fastblackmerc]

Battery is from a junkyard, but it all seems fine.

I will swipe the wifes and see if it fires up. If so i am getting a NEW battery.

Plugs will be pulled tomorrow.


Battery is from a junkyard

Who wants to bet this is the problem?

Dom..... somethings aren't worth getting from a junk yard....

[Mebot]

Unplug your battery and let it sit for about 20 minutes then plug it back up.

do you have a code reader? Are the lights on your dash still lighting up?

[Motorhead350]

Lights all work.

Electronics are acting normal. I hope its simple as the battery. If so, NO MORE batterys from junkyards or electonics... ever again.

[Comin' in Hot]

NO MORE batterys from junkyards or electonics... ever again.

good advice!!!

[lji372]

Dom my motor came from a junk yard. It's all good man, your signature says it all:beer:

[MOTOWN]

As soon as I read this thread my first thought is a junk yard battery gives you junk yard performance!
Buy a new battery and keep it moving.

[Motorhead350]

A new battrey cost new money. I am not being cheap for the sake of it, its the best I can do in life right now.

As I say, its better to have a car to fix than no car at all.

[L.Mark]

At least get the Junk Yard warranty on the battery so if it goes bad you can get another one...;)

[whitey]

Jeeze, you guys are harsh, but really your not. Junkyard battery, i just lost a little respect for you:)replace battery, check for a spark.

[CBT]

What's wrong with hitting the junkyards? A bunch of us went to one in Louisville and poked around. It's like a treasure hunt, who doesn't like hunting for treasure? Sometimes you find a diamond ring, sometimes you find a bottle cap.

[Haggis]

Dom, new name for your band; Junkyard Battery.

[Joe Walsh]

What's wrong with hitting the junkyards?
A bunch of us went to one in Louisville and poked around. It's like a treasure hunt, who doesn't like hunting for treasure?
Sometimes you find a diamond ring, sometimes you find a bottle cap,
sometimes you find a used condom under the front seat.

There....fixed it for ya!

Most likely suspects:
1: junkyard battery....(there is a reason that it was in a junkyard.)
2: alternator...check charging function with a voltmeter on the battery:
while engine is off: 12 -> 12.4 volts = battery low ; 12.4 -> 12.6 volts = battery charged
while engine is running: 13.5 -> 14.5 volts = alternator is charging correctly.

Dom, I just went through this with my Ranger.
It turned out to be the alternator going bad*, which caused my battery to drain.

*It was hard to figure out because the alternator would charge most of the time, but stop charging when it got really hot.

[RoyLPita]

A new battrey cost new money. I am not being cheap for the sake of it, its the best I can do in life right now.

As I say, its better to have a car to fix than no car at all.

Depending on where you get a new battery, it comes with a warranty that makes the purchase worthwhile.

As for electronics from a junkyard, find one that offers a replacement policy.

Keep us posted on this ordeal.

[Blk04MM]

Most likely suspects:
1: junkyard battery....(there is a reason that it was in a junkyard.)

NOT true. I've seen plenty NEW cars in there with rear ends ripped off from a bad accident but from the rear/front doors up the car is still new and untouched which means good battery (if it hasn't been sitting forever)

I'm sure he didn't pry one out of a junker

[Joe Walsh]

NOT true. I've seen plenty NEW cars in there with rear ends ripped off from a bad accident but from the rear/front doors up the car is still new and untouched which means good battery (if it hasn't been sitting forever)

I'm sure he didn't pry one out of a junker

There are no batteries in any junkyard cars in my area.
They pull them as soon as the cars come in and get recycling $$ for them.
Crazy Rays junkyard will sell some batteries that they claim are in good shape....
Crazy Rays also sells gallon jugs of USED antifreeze....:shake:

[lji372]

What's wrong with hitting the junkyards? A bunch of us went to one in Louisville and poked around. It's like a treasure hunt, who doesn't like hunting for treasure? Sometimes you find a diamond ring, sometimes you find a bottle cap.

That ^^^^^^ right there:beer:

I LOVE poking around junk yards:D

So tell me you guys would never buy a part from a junk yard? B.S.:puke:

[Curless]

No one buys parts from junk yards Jerry....unless its a Trilogy set up, on an engine, ready to rock and roll....

[Joe Walsh]

That ^^^^^^ right there:beer:

I LOVE poking around junk yards:D

So tell me you guys would never buy a part from a junk yard? B.S.:puke:

I love to poke around junkyards too!

Never buy parts from them?
I do all the time...but sorry......not a car battery.

[Blk04MM]

There are no batteries in any junkyard cars in my area.
They pull them as soon as the cars come in and get recycling $$ for them.
Crazy Rays junkyard will sell some batteries that they claim are in good shape....
Crazy Rays also sells gallon jugs of USED antifreeze....:shake:

Lol @ used antifreeze now that's crazy

[Joe Walsh]

Lol @ used antifreeze now that's crazy

Yep...I was leaving their yard and they had a rack of gallon jugs filled with used anti-freeze.
I couldn't believe it.
But Crazy Rays is cool because they sell stuff dirt cheap.
Got a set of really nice black & grey highback bucket seats from an '05 Ranger to replace the lame seats in my '99 Ranger for all of $75.00!
I passed on the low buck antifreeze.

(Sold my OEM '99 seats for $175 on craigslist FTW!)

Sorry for the thread Hi-jack Dom....but you would love Crazy Rays!

[fastblackmerc]

That ^^^^^^ right there:beer:

I LOVE poking around junk yards:D

So tell me you guys would never buy a part from a junk yard? B.S.:puke:

I'd only buy certain parts from a junk yard.... certainly not used antifreeze or a battery.

[Motorhead350]

I will do a battery swap today, check for lose wires and check out the plugs.

If the battery is the issue I do get another one free, but i am tired of a revolving door of batteries.

[Bigdogjim]

I will do a battery swap today, check for lose wires and check out the plugs.

If the battery is the issue I do get another one free, but i am tired of a revolving door of batteries.
Sometimes we do what we need to keep moving forward. However some parts should be bought new, in your case the battery unless you know the junkyard and know that the battery your buying is only a few months old.

Don't now if your a AAA member? If so they will dispatch a truck to help start your car and check the system at N/C.

[lji372]

Oh man! I didn't even think of used antifreeze lmao!

I was too busy looking at the trilogy :D

Batteries do have date codes

[MOTOWN]

What's wrong with hitting the junkyards? A bunch of us went to one in Louisville and poked around. It's like a treasure hunt, who doesn't like hunting for treasure? Sometimes you find a diamond ring, sometimes you find a bottle cap.

Ive poked thru junkyards since i was 17! thats all good, bought a battery from a salvage yard once, it croked 3 weeks later:depress: lesson learned!


That ^^^^^^ right there:beer:

I LOVE poking around junk yards:D

So tell me you guys would never buy a part from a junk yard? B.S.:puke:

I never said a part! i said a battery which is not a good choice from a salvage yard!:shake:

[RacerX]

"I heard a squeaky noise and it kept getting worse."

It's most likely just a seized pulley, alt, steering pump, A/C clutch...

[SC Cheesehead]

"I heard a squeaky noise and it kept getting worse."

It's most likely just a seized pulley, alt, steering pump, A/C clutch...



Nah, I'm thinking more like muffler bearing.

[MOTOWN]

Nah, I'm thinking more like muffler bearing.

Yeah and them are a dime a dozen in the bone yards!;)

[RacerX]

Nah, I'm thinking more like muffler bearing.
Out of Blinker Fuid? :dunno:

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_in fo&products_id=22

[Motorhead350]

I fear the worst...

I changed the battery, same result, pulled the plugs and cranked it same result.

I tried cranking the crankshaft myself and ended up bending the tool and the crankshaft not moving.

Someone that knows their stuff needs to check this out, but right now I am leaning towards my biggest fear of blowing up the engine.

[Curless]

I fear the worst...

I changed the battery, same result, pulled the plugs and cranked it same result.

I tried cranking the crankshaft myself and ended up bending the tool and the crankshaft not moving.

Someone that knows their stuff needs to check this out, but right now I am leaning towards my biggest fear of blowing up the engine.


This does not sound good...if the engine let go though there should have been warning sounds...

[RacerX]

This does not sound good...if the engine let go though there should have been warning sounds...
There was... and it got louder. (See post #32 above!) I was hoping it wasn't serious.

Dom, did you take off the supercharger belt? Something could be seized in there and not necessarily the motor. Good luck. :(

[Curless]

Did you crank it with the belt off?

[massacre]

So you cannot turn the crank by hand after removing all belts?

[Motorhead350]

I disconnected the belt and plugs. I tried rotating the crankshaft and ended up bending the tool.

This is horrible.

[Curless]

I disconnected the belt and plugs. I tried rotating the crankshaft and ended up bending the tool.

This is horrible.


Yes, it is...what did you have for internals in your engine?

[Motorhead350]

Yes, it is...what did you have for internals in your engine?

2003 Cobra short block.

Eric (yjMud) told me it could be a camshaft issue holding it back.

[RacerX]

Dibs on floor mats!!!

Sorry bud, had to. :(

[massacre]

it could be a siezed cam, only way to tell is to remove the timing chains and see if the crank turns with the chains removed.

[Motorhead350]

it could be a siezed cam, only way to tell is to remove the timing chains and see if the crank turns with the chains removed.

I need to do that before I jump to conclusions.

[Bigdogjim]

I feel for on this one! Keep us posted.

[lji372]

Dibs on floor mats!!!

Sorry bud, had to. :(

Snap late again:(

Dom hit the junk yard for a ready to go motor, that's what I did:rolleyes:

Step 1 call zack
Step 2 hope he answers

[Curless]

Snap late again:(

Dom hit the junk yard for a ready to go motor, that's what I did:rolleyes:

Step 1 call zack
Step 2 hope he answers


Step 3 hope Becky answers instead!!!!!:lol:

[Jeffonebuck]

I feel for ya Motörhead , I'm watching from the side of the Cribb while the Paramarauders do their best to help.

[WhatsUpDOHC]

Sorry to hear the latest updates.
I'm hoping for the best.

[Motorhead350]

Until someone examines the heads I think I am screwed.

[JoeBoomz]

Dom, sorry to hear this. Motor news is depressing :(

If it helps, last week my driver rear cylinder burnt up and the piston tapped the plug. The plug gap closed completely, and now my motor knocks like crazy.

It still turns over, but I stopped driving the car to salvage what I can from the motor. Crappy year with this going on!

[Comin' in Hot]

that's sucks.... I hope its only in the top end

[Motorhead350]

Dom, sorry to hear this. Motor news is depressing :(

If it helps, last week my driver rear cylinder burnt up and the piston tapped the plug. The plug gap closed completely, and now my motor knocks like crazy.

It doesn't. I do not wish misery upon anyone unlesd they deserve it, plus nothing has been solved.

I hope this is just the top end.

Plans are being essessed. No decision will be made, nor will anything be ordeted until I know for sure what the issue is.

All good things must come to an end? Not in my life.

[Mebot]

If anything the silver lining is you have a chance now to make it better and greater. Look at it this way: over 10 years and 200k+ miles as a daily driver, you sure come a long way. At least it's not totaled and engines can be replaced. I see this as an opportunity to make your Marauder go well past 500,000 miles and last another 20 years!

sent from a Samsung Galaxy far far away...

[a_d_a_m]

Fixed:
Step 1 call zack
Step 2 hold phone away from ear because he's gonna yell

Seriously though, good luck dude.

[RacerX]

Seriously though, it could even have been a spun bearing. Most likely re-buildable/fixable.

[Motorhead350]

We will see. I still need an expert examination and opinion.

Zack yelling at me for this? Naa. He was already laughing though text message.

Even if it's a fix that's simple as head work (if it is simple) I think I am done with a high horsepower DD. I do not have time for this B.S. anymore and I haven't gone racing at the track in over a year. I think I am done.

[Motorhead350]

I saved a picture of what I think my issue is.

[MyBlackBeasts]

I saved a picture of what I think my issue is.

Hahahahaha! :lol:

Too funny Dom! :D

[vegasmarauder]

By the way, don't rotate the engine with the timing chains off or the pistons will hit the valves. If you are going to do that you have to take off all the cam followers (rocker arms) first. As a far-fetched possibility, I have seen one torque converter come apart inside and lock up. But it made a lot of noise from the converter area first.

If you can get a bore scope (they call them remote camera's at Harbor Freight Tools) you may be able to look into each plug hole and see what the interferance is.

[lji372]

On a side note the parts are done for the supercharger idler pulley:dunno:

[sailsmen]

We will see. I still need an expert examination and opinion.

Zack yelling at me for this? Naa. He was already laughing though text message.

Even if it's a fix that's simple as head work (if it is simple) I think I am done with a high horsepower DD. I do not have time for this B.S. anymore and I haven't gone racing at the track in over a year. I think I am done.

Good Luck.

I would not necessarily give up.

It is possible with the right set up to;
540RWHP/70+K Miles/70+ 11 2nd Pases
BlackStone Lab Report
Wow, between the supercharger, the daily driving and the 1/4 passes, it sounds like you're giving this engine a run for its money. That’s okay -- it seems to enjoy the attention. Metals look great. This is one of the longer (not the longest, but close) oil runs across the page, but metals still look very good. Iron is a little higher than some other samples simply because of the longer run, but with other metals reading low, we know it's not making the oil abrasive. The TBN was fine (2.6), and sodium seems like additive (not coolant). Add 1,500 more mi to the oil.

You mentioned that you're concerned the transmissions life might be nearing the end. As far as we can see here, metals look great. They're lower than last time, but that's probably just because this oil run was shorter than the last. The oil was physically in good shape. Maybe there's something going on that's not related to poor wear -- like parts wearing out, perhaps? Just a theory. This oil can see more use, as far as we're concerned.

A Daily Driver that is driven to the track and run that way!

[Motorhead350]

I do not know. I do not have the time in my life for this B.S. anymore. I do not have a second car to drive. My wife has a stock Mountaineer, but there are times we both need to be at different places at the same time that require the use of a vehicle.

Right now I am leaning toward going back to stock where I can shut the hood and deal with the occasional wear and tear. I cannot stand driving and being uncertain if I will make it home or having to worry about something breaking every time I press down on the screamer petal.

Plus, I lack the skills to get the "hardcore" work done. I feel like instead of the car being able to take me places it's holding me back physically and financially. It looks like my days of driving in the world I tried to create for myself are done. I have more important things to worry about than if I can smoke that GT500 at 2am, car meets and hoping junkyards have the parts I need because I broke a bunch.

The baby has gotten ugly.

Any other advice anyone has for testing beside pulling the head covers off? I am starting to think the engine is ok, but something is locked up in one of the heads. I never smelled a burning smell. I blew an engine in a Chevy before, so I know what it's like... this did not seem that way.

Even if I didn't, this seems like the end of the road for this setup. It's not fun anymore.

[Curless]

O.K., so you can't drive it daily...no big deal. Grab a little econo car and drive that daily. Keep your rauder for the fun times!

[Motorhead350]

O.K., so you can't drive it daily...no big deal. Grab a little econo car and drive that daily. Keep your rauder for the fun times!

It is a big deal. I like to enjoy every drive, plus I do not feel safe in little cars. People keep crashing into me including a Subaru hitting me this past weekend. I need a big safe car due to all these idiot drivers on the roads playing with their iphones.

Plus I cannot buy another car.

[Mebot]

I do not know. I do not have the time in my life for this B.S. anymore. I do not have a second car to drive. My wife has a stock Mountaineer, but there are times we both need to be at different places at the same time that require the use of a vehicle.

Right now I am leaning toward going back to stock where I can shut the hood and deal with the occasional wear and tear. I cannot stand driving and being uncertain if I will make it home or having to worry about something breaking every time I press down on the screamer petal.

Plus, I lack the skills to get the "hardcore" work done. I feel like instead of the car being able to take me places it's holding me back physically and financially. It looks like my days of driving in the world I tried to create for myself are done. I have more important things to worry about than if I can smoke that GT500 at 2am, car meets and hoping junkyards have the parts I need because I broke a bunch.

The baby has gotten ugly.

Any other advice anyone has for testing beside pulling the head covers off? I am starting to think the engine is ok, but something is locked up in one of the heads. I never smelled a burning smell. I blew an engine in a Chevy before, so I know what it's like... this did not seem that way.

Even if I didn't, this seems like the end of the road for this setup. It's not fun anymore.

Most mature thing I think you have ever posted Dom.

Not trying to be funny or smug, but it definitely take a mature person to look at all options and understand the priorities. This isn't a "I told you so" from the collective bunch that DON'T daily drive their Marauders every day, but I'm sure you can understand their perspective a little more clearly. You want this car to last a long time and you want to enjoy it. I think it makes sense to have a reliable, DAILY DRIVER Marauder without the headache.

You will do what needs to be done and that's that. Since Becky will be singing on the Misfits album can you call up your friend Glenn Danzig and ask for an advancement of money?

[RacerX]

Most mature thing I think you have ever posted Dom.
I was thinking the same thing. No shame in gaining wisdom.

[Motorhead350]

Most mature thing I think you have ever posted Dom.

Not trying to be funny or smug, but it definitely take a mature person to look at all options and understand the priorities. This isn't a "I told you so" from the collective bunch that DON'T daily drive their Marauders every day, but I'm sure you can understand their perspective a little more clearly. You want this car to last a long time and you want to enjoy it. I think it makes sense to have a reliable, DAILY DRIVER Marauder without the headache.

You will do what needs to be done and that's that. Since Becky will be singing on the Misfits album can you call up your friend Glenn Danzig and ask for an advancement of money?

Thanks man.

As far as The Misfits recording our check should be here monday, but it will not cover this. Even then, it's Beckys voice on the record not mine. It's her skills desired, not mine, therefore it's not my money, but knowing her she would spend it on the car for me, but I feel bad whenever she does that stuff. I never met Danzig, but Jerry Only is my guy. He's a great guy and the best business man I have ever met in the business, probably the most misunderstood guy in Punk Rock, but then again how many Misfits fans actually know how to run a business? They are not one to judge in my book... sorry to be off topic.

I have the rest of my life for Hot Rods and Chaos, but right now i simply need to get around even if it means giving up on speed contests, on and off of the track.

[sailsmen]

To be able to enjoy and own a high performance car, boat or plane it takes a certain "mind set".
It has nothing to do with intelligence, money or education.

[Mebot]

To be able to enjoy and own a high performance car, boat or plane it takes a certain "mind set".
It has nothing to do with intelligence, money or education.

No, but it helps!

sent from a Samsung Galaxy far far away...

[lji372]

No, but it helps!

sent from a Samsung Galaxy far far away...

+1

Know when to walk away and know when to RUN!!!!

Dom, get a used stock motor (put a block under the gas pedal). Store the current setup till you can afford to get it done right. By then hopefully it won't have to be a dd:beer:

[Motorhead350]

Alright I did some more testing today and it's sounding bad....

The crankshaft cannot be moved by hand in neither direction. The engine can still rotate by putting the key in the startup position, but it only moves 1/10th of a rotation at most. I put a piece of tape on the top dead center of the crankshaft pulley, turned the key 4 times it was at 3'o clock. Yes I know that's less than 1/10th of a rotation when turning the key for start up.

I fear the worst. Why does the dependable stuff have to be lame and boring and the fun stuff is high cost, high maintenance and can break at anytime? Not just with cars, but anything. I have much respect for people that design OEM parts that can last 200,000 miles, but this aftermaket stuff seems to murder the parts... I have been told by a few that stuff can be made better if companies used a different material for their products. It would cost more, but last forever. Yet companies would rather sell you the same broken crap 3 times over than have you only pay once for the superior quality.

When all goes well I am buying a McLaren. I'm sick of aftermarket garbage quality and aftermarket parts breaking my other parts. :mad2:

[RacerX]

Main bearing has most likely spun, lost oil and welded itself to the crank. :( Still fixable! :) What you need is a beater for DD and do the MM up right.

[Motorhead350]

Main bearing has most likely spun, lost oil and welded itself to the crank. :( Still fixable! :) What you need is a beater for DD and do the MM up right.

I still have all fluids filled.

Spark plugs did not have a "blow out." They were still gapped properly.

Could it still be a bearing?

[RacerX]

I'm pretty sure it's a bearing. But, until you dig in, it's jmho. :(

[Motorhead350]

I'm pretty sure it's a bearing. But, until you dig in, it's jmho. :(

Bearing? Bearing from what? I want to look this up and find out what I did wrong and how to prevent it.

[Curless]

Bearing? Bearing from what? I want to look this up and find out what I did wrong and how to prevent it.


Here's the deal, its high performance, its pushed well beyond where it was intended, it will break. You more than likely did nothing wrong, its just attrition from normal use / abuse. The bearings are in the bottom end of the engine, their are main and rods bearings....no matter what you have to take it out and rebuild it. I know its not what you want to hear but its true. There are no short cuts in this scenario....

[Green96]

Personally I would put it back together. If you want to lower the risk of future issues you could dial things down a little. The closer you are to stock the lower the chance of problems but I don't think you need to go entirely back to stock. Good luck.

[Comin' in Hot]

was the trans in neutral when you tried to turn the crank?

[Bigdogjim]

Alright I did some more testing today and it's sounding bad....
. I have been told by a few that stuff can be made better if companies used a different material for their products. It would cost more, but last forever. Yet companies would rather sell you the same broken crap 3 times over than have you only pay once for the superior quality.

When all goes well I am buying a McLaren. I'm sick of aftermarket garbage quality and aftermarket parts breaking my other parts. :mad2:
I say I agree with your friend I have at one time driven cars (hard) with aftermarket parts with no issues. I think your case you need to find the cause before you point a finger.(so to speak)

Please keep us posted.

Remember we are "on you side"

[Motorhead350]

was the trans in neutral when you tried to turn the crank?

No, but I just tried it and the same result occurred.

Alrighty, Jim.

So if it's the bearings on the camshaft does this mean I have them replaced and the engine should be fine. I know we do not have it apart, nor do we know the actual issue, but if it's just the bearings should the pistons, heads and everything else be ok or..... it all depends.

I think I answered my own question with "We will know when we get there."

I hate this.

[massacre]

By the way, don't rotate the engine with the timing chains off or the pistons will hit the valves. If you are going to do that you have to take off all the cam followers (rocker arms) first.

I always immediately remove all 32 followers before touching the cams/chains. I thought everybody did?

[Motorhead350]

It seems like the car is going to better hands. Zack MIGHT be looking at this pile next weekend. I hope he does it and even then I wish I could return the favor, but he never asks for anything.

[RacerX]

I always immediately remove all 32 followers before touching the cams/chains. I thought everybody did?
360° of SAFE MODE FTW!!! ;)

[Blackened300a]

Main bearing has most likely spun, lost oil and welded itself to the crank. :( .

Exactly what I think happened.

Dom, since you are shopping for used things and on a tight budget, please tell us about your oil maintenance schedules and what oil you are using.

[Motorhead350]

Valvoline 5w30 synthetic every 3k

[RF Overlord]

There are no bearings on the cams...well...no replaceable bearings.

[Motorhead350]

There are no bearings on the cams...well...no replaceable bearings.

So if this is indeed the issue I broke a forged crankshaft? Remember, the short block was from a 2003 Cobra! :eek:

[RF Overlord]

Dunno if you BROKE it, but spinning a rod or crank bearing is not that unusual...

[Motorhead350]

Dunno if you BROKE it, but spinning a rod or crank bearing is not that unusual...

Let's see what happens on next weeks episode of Zacksters Garage.... I hope.

[RF Overlord]

I know Zack will take good care of you, bro... :up:

[WhatsUpDOHC]

I know Zack will take good care of you, bro... :up:
Yes. Subscribing to hear the doctor's diagnosis.

[Motorhead350]

Zack said maybe guys.... maybe.

[WhatsUpDOHC]

Zack said maybe guys.... maybe.
Fingers are crossed.

[justbob]

Damn Dom, hate to hear this. You sound like me when I bent my valves, totally and completely ready to stop caring and move on. I totally get it... Hopefully it turns out to be nothing too costly.


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"

[Motorhead350]

Its a good thing this is taking a while. Was thinking how hard it now is to get a s/c kit for these cars and it took ten years to get this far... now I don't know what to do... unless it needs an engine then I will have no choice.

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Well, first dibs on the Procharger Dom.

But seriously, good luck and keep it. You've come too far to let it slip away now.

[MMBLUE]

Good luck Dom. Fingers and toes crossed. You're already balz deep in it, you have to fix it now. Ask me how I know......Been there.

[boatmangc]

Hang in there man, subscribing.
You will have options after you know what is wrong.

[a_d_a_m]

Was thinking how hard it now is to get a s/c kit for these cars Eaton parts are readily available.
Zack just did a turbo Marauder.
There are options...

[TAKEDOWN]

Hang in there Bro!

[Motorhead350]

Eaton parts are readily available.
Zack just did a turbo Marauder.
There are options...

What I am trying to say is the simple "place your order" days are over. I know Dennis is still an option, but.... we all know the stories.

Sure we can "build" kits, but buying one complete is over. If I really had to sell and was able to buy another kit later, it would be a headache. I like simple and straight to the point "click to order" not "you need to find these 42 different parts from 42 different sources." No thanks.

I have a great setup, losing it would lead to more problems trying to get everything the way I want it all over again.

Let's hope the repair isn't too costly and I didn't damage much... most importantly, Zack is in the mood to deal with my troubles. :bows:

[MyBlackBeasts]

I have a great setup, losing it would lead to more problems trying to get everything the way I want it all over again.



No reason you can't re-use your existing boost setup with a replacement engine if that is the needed repair.

I hope Zach gets a chance to check it out for you soon just to end the "don't know" anxiety... :depress:

[Motorhead350]

Update.

It looks like Zack is willing to look at it, tell me what's wrong, but that's it. I hope it's a simple fix, but the more I think about it the worse it sounds. I am really worried my days of fun are over. I have been driving around in the wife's 2005 Mercury Mountaineer... it's SO BORING!!! MY GOD! A stock daily driver is no fun unless it's fast or just massive. This truck is fun for towing or being the fastest in the snow storm, but this is summer. This is the time burn rubber, the time to make noise in the street, to race on the.... track.... yeah. Not in this S.U.V. It's dependable as can be, but it's so boring. I feel like I am working a 9-5 job and wear a uniform. I cannot stand this. I had more fun with breaking the car twice a day than driving this truck for a week without problems. People cut you off in this and the radio is not as loud as mine. I loved scaring people outta my way with the pipes, I loved doing rolling burnouts out of stop signs everyday, I miss getting pulled over for driving like Steve McQueen only to get let of because I would admit to guilt. What I am supposed to do with this thing? Go to Home Depo and build a deck when I get home? Go tailgating?

Eric (yjmud) has been nice enough to let me borrow a trailer with a winch to tow the car to Zacks place.

Lot's of members have already offered to buy my blower, so I can get back on the road... even if it's back to N/A. Other members have PMed me engines and short blocks they want to sell.

The support has been unbelievable, you guys are really something special. I am still in fear for the worst with the engine. It's a shame when one of the ONLY things you love in life let's you down.

It might sit for a while so I can save enough to keep the setup if it needs an engine, but right now I don't have time. I have places to be and people to meet. I'm not letting a broken Hot Rod hold me back.

[justbob]

Good time to park it and learn the car. I.E. get in, dirty, turn wrenches, and really get to understanding how things work. The amount of pride is priceless.


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"

[Motorhead350]

I do not have that kind of time anymore.

[Mebot]

Sure we can "build" kits, but buying one complete is over. If I really had to sell and was able to buy another kit later, it would be a headache. I like simple and straight to the point "click to order" not "you need to find these 42 different parts from 42 different sources." No thanks.


Amen brother. I wish I could buy a turn key supercharger and get it installed.

[Motorhead350]

Amen brother. I wish I could buy a turn key supercharger and get it installed.

You might be able to have mine soon.

[Haggis]

You might be able to have mine soon.

Your's is a Procherger?

[Motorhead350]

Your's is a Procherger?

Correct....

[CBT]

Your's is a Procherger?

It learns how to spell check or it gets the hose again......

[Mebot]

You might be able to have mine soon.

You're having too many problems, no thanks :P

[Motorhead350]

You're having too many problems, no thanks :P

I got 99 problems, but a blower ain't one.

[Mebot]

You might be able to have mine soon.

Don't threaten me with a good time

sent from a Samsung Galaxy far far away...

[J-MAN]

O pointy birds, o pointy pointy
Anoint my head, anointy-nointy

[RacerX]

It learns how to spell check or it gets the hose again......


http://media.rofls.com/b1/f2/b1f29a26f7a7a129264b0d25e3060e 0c.jpg

[Haggis]

It learns how to spell check or it gets the hose again......

Screw you Squid......:bop:

[Blk04MM]

I got 99 problems, but a blower ain't one.

Lol :lol::beatnik:

[lji372]

Man it wasn't long ago we were reading this

:shake:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88117

[Bigdogjim]

Yes it does not take long for fate to step in and smack you between the eye's.

Hope it a quick fix and easy on the wallet.

[Motorhead350]

We will see. Unless it's a very simple fix (which I HIGHLY doubt) I might go back to N/A anyway. As much as I loved a DD that could kill anything that was actually driven, it's taking up too much of my time these days.

Hopefully this weekend or early next week I will know the true issue... if Zack is still willing to do this for me.

[Motorhead350]

Alright, Zack has told me six different ways to "Leave me alone and you fix this."

Looks like I will be removing the timing and head covers as he suggested. Removing seems easy except for the passenger side head over, does anyone have a link for removal?

If the timing chain is broken can this simply be changed and set up again? I watched someone do this with a Kia last winter. Also I have NO CLUE what to look for when the cam/head covers are off. I do not know what looks like it should and what is broken.

What should I look for guys? Do we have links for timing chain cover and cam cover removal?

Today, I actually have a few hours to do this... actually I don't, I just hate waiting.

Thanks.

[sailsmen]

Good luck putting the tooth paste back in the tube.

[justbob]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=85729


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"

[Motorhead350]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=85729


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"

Thank you!!!

[J-MAN]

Sounds like an adventure. Good luck!

[Blackened300a]

Alright, Zack has told me six different ways to "Leave me alone and you fix this."

Looks like I will be removing the timing and head covers as he suggested. Removing seems easy except for the passenger side head over, does anyone have a link for removal?

If the timing chain is broken can this simply be changed and set up again? I watched someone do this with a Kia last winter. Also I have NO CLUE what to look for when the cam/head covers are off. I do not know what looks like it should and what is broken.

What should I look for guys? Do we have links for timing chain cover and cam cover removal?

Today, I actually have a few hours to do this... actually I don't, I just hate waiting.

Thanks.

If the timing chain broke, you wont be lucky enough to just swap the chains over and be on your way. These are known as "high interference" engines. Basically when that chain snapped, the valves met the pistons and you are looking at bigger issues. Maybe just be better to find a cheap engine and swap it out.

[SC Cheesehead]

If the timing chain broke, you wont be lucky enough to just swap the chains over and be on your way. These are known as "high interference" engines. Basically when that chain snapped, the valves met the pistons and you are looking at bigger issues. Maybe just be better to find a cheap engine and swap it out.


^^^^^^^ What he said.

[yjmud]

my money is that the chain(s) did not break

[SC Cheesehead]

my money is that the chain(s) did not break


What are you thinking it may be? Gotta be pretty substantial if it won't turn over.

[RF Overlord]

^^^what SC Cheesecakefactory said^^^

What make you so sure it isn't one of the chains?

[yjmud]

because it sounds more like something seized up I have seen enough broken tinning belts to know valves bend easily then the engine still turns over
and yes I know that it has chains not belts

[RacerX]

I was driving doing about 40mph when I heard a squeaky noise and it kept getting worse.
AGAIN, I quote Dom from his very own first post in this thread. It's a rod bearing, main bearing, cam girdle/bearing surface or even an oil starved piston that has welded the rings to the walls.

[UncleLar]

I doubt the rings are welded to the walls as the engine does turn over a little.I'm not there to look to see if it's only turning as much as slack in the engine allows or it will spin a full revolution.Knowing if it'll spin at least a revolution,or more or less would be very helpful Dom.Sorry I'm not there to help ya.

[Motorhead350]

I did not get to it yesterday.

I have been so busy I have forgotten to be upset.

The cam covers will be removed on sunday. Finding out the issue will be great, but right now like I said a week ago... I do not have time for this anymore. If I cannot figure this out on sunday or possibly tuesday its going to someone else and its NOT Zack.

[RacerX]

I was trying to make a point more than say exactly what I thought it was. I think the noise before the seize is key here. :beer:

[yjmud]

^^^^^^^^^what he said^^^^^^^^^^

[MMBLUE]

I did not get to it yesterday.

I have been so busy I have forgotten to be upset.

The cam covers will be removed on sunday. Finding out the issue will be great, but right now like I said a week ago... I do not have time for this anymore. If I cannot figure this out on sunday or possibly tuesday its going to someone else and its NOT Zack.

Dom...This sounds interesting :beer:

[Motorhead350]

Me being busy is great, but wrenching on this thing... i dunno. Cars are not my life, they are my hobby, but now it seems like they have become my problem.

I might not even do this on sunday, I am really not motivated. With this new attitude, back to stock is probably the best bet... then again I know I am angry.

I was told to never make a decision when angry, but at this state I will not have the ability to make a decision. Too many let downs for one week, but LOTS of support.

You know who you are, so thank you all!

[UncleLar]

Hey Dom,if you've got other wheels and a safe place for the MM then take a break,step back and give yourself some time to mull it over.

[Motorhead350]

Nope, no other wheels for full time use other than the CTA. i cannot relax, its broken and I have zero time to wrench on this unless its losing sleep... it might be sooner or later.

[J-MAN]

Sell it and buy that tour bus.

[Bigdogjim]

Sell it and buy that tour bus.

Yes buy a bus:) However I am retired (so to speak) so you'll need a driver:P

[MyBlackBeasts]

^^^what SC Cheesecakefactory said^^^

What make you so sure it isn't one of the chains?

Broken chain would have included a large amount of horrific noise with the sudden stop - free wheeling rotating assm coming in contact with valves, etc.

Dom's description of squealing noise & stop sounds like something internal siezed.

[Motorhead350]

Broken chain would have included a large amount of horrific noise with the sudden stop - free wheeling rotating assm coming in contact with valves, etc.

Dom's description of squealing noise & stop sounds like something internal siezed.

Internal damage is what I fear. Tomorrow I will remove the cam covers if I find the motivation. I think I am wasting my time with the top end though.

[Comin' in Hot]

Dom, this is going to come off as harsh, but I'm not saying this to be a dick. We are up to ten pages of pity and I'm feeling less and less sorry for you as the posts go on. If I bitched about everything that went wrong on my car, people wouldn't want to talk to me ever again.

Your car is highly modified, it was driven hard daily, what did you expect to happen? It wasn't going to last forever

Suck it up, take the cam covers off so we could help you.

[Joe Walsh]

Dom, this is going to come off as harsh, but I'm not saying this to be a dick. We are up to ten pages of pity and I'm feeling less and less sorry for you as the posts go on. If I bitched about everything that went wrong on my car, people wouldn't want to talk to me ever again.

Your car is highly modified, it was driven hard daily, what did you expect to happen? It wasn't going to last forever

Suck it up, take the cam covers off so we could help you.

I've been 'biting my tongue' while reading this entire thread.
Here is my 2 cents:

There are 2 types of people who drive highly modified-high performance cars;

1: Those who know how to turn a wrench to fix/maintain such cars = LOTS of time and patience needed.
2: Those who don't know how to turn a wrench to fix/maintain such cars = LOTS of money needed.

If you don't have the knowhow to fix it, nor the cash to pay a mechanic to fix it......then you should drive a stock, reliable car.

[Blk04MM]

Think about this. The days and months the car did its job carrying you through the daily lead foot driving you didn't lose sleep, it allowed you to sleep. Now it's broke I think you owe it to yourself and the car to lose some sleep over it. 10+ pages deep of people trying to help you. Dive Into it and get back to the people so they can further more assist you. The more you sit back the more time passes. I dove into removing a trans cross member in the garage on my back on jackstands. Sucked but hey it's done.

DO IT. you love that car don't fool yourself because you're mad.

[Motorhead350]

Dom, this is going to come off as harsh, but I'm not saying this to be a dick. We are up to ten pages of pity and I'm feeling less and less sorry for you as the posts go on. If I bitched about everything that went wrong on my car, people wouldn't want to talk to me ever again.

Your car is highly modified, it was driven hard daily, what did you expect to happen? It wasn't going to last forever

Suck it up, take the cam covers off so we could help you.

Like Zack, I am burnt out... or so he says.

What did I expect to happen? I expected it to last more than 22,000 miles. I did everything I was told, part by part and it still blew up. "Do this so it will last." I did and it still broke. Even went to the Cobra engine that can handle 800 horsepower and I broke that... or it seems that way. There is no "other car" for full time use, there is no beater I cam buy and forget about the Marauder for a while... this is it. You think this is me just feeling sorry for myself? You try it. On top of that try having a friend keep his garage door closed at a time when you need him most. Not because of some life changing event, disease, death in the family, other projects... nope simply just does not want to. Go though all of that and see if you still have your head up.

Covers are going to be a waste of time, but finding out whats wrong has to be done.

[Joe Walsh]

Yep, Zack is a dick for not fixing your broken car again, and again....and again....:shake:

[Comin' in Hot]

Stop looking for a handout and help yourself. Time to put on the big boy pants and do what's necessary to get it fixed.

[MOTOWN]

:argue::popcorn::popcorn:

[Motorhead350]

Yep, Zack is a dick for not fixing your broken car again, and again....and again....:shake:

No Zack is far from a dick, he is awesome and always will be. When you go to someone time and time again one would expect it, but I was wrong. My mistake for being a fool.


BTW I have fixed this thing more times than I care to recall. It has not gone to Zack in over a year or anyone else. My skill level ( or lack there of) does not go inside an engine... yet.

EDIT: yjmud has helped, but it was electrical... not an engine part breaking.

[Motorhead350]

Stop looking for a handout and help yourself. Time to put on the big boy pants and do what's necessary to get it fixed.

Do you have a problem with reading? I have said time and time again I DO NOT HAVE TIME FOR THIS. I would love to learn and take a weekend to do it, but those days are over.

I never asked for handouts, I offered cash for labor. You are not one to judge.

[RF Overlord]

Dom, like the others said, the sooner you can get some visibility inside the motor, the sooner someone here can help you. Get the cam covers off, and if at all possible, the front cover...pix and a verbal description of what you see when you try to rotate the crank will be a great help.

[Joe Walsh]

Do you have a problem with reading? I have said time and time again I DO NOT HAVE TIME FOR THIS. I would love to learn and take a weekend to do it, but those days are over.

I never asked for handouts, I offered cash for labor. You are not one to judge.

As my wife says:

"Quit wasting time, get off that darn Marauder website and get your chores done!!!"

[Blk04MM]

Ignore the "semi bashing" like I said you owe it to yourself and your car. Just grab a cold one or whatnot and go for it. The sooner you can then the fellas can help you get back on the road. Good luck!!

[Blk04MM]

As my wife says:

"Quit wasting time, get off that darn Marauder website and get your chores done!!!"

Nail hit on the head. :beer:

[Comin' in Hot]

I've heard 70 times you do not have time for this, yet you're wasting time and not taking the cam covers off. If you're worried about the passenger side, just unbolt it, separate it from the head and looking to see if the timing chains broken, the cover doesn't even have to come off all the way.

And I'm not judging you, your car is broken, you're frustrated, and have no other means of transportation. I'm trying to get you to help yourself, get off your ass and do something about it.

[Motorhead350]

I would, but I am at work. I am not sitting at home... we have lots of down time.

I decided to do this monday. I would rather spend the day with my wife when we are both off of work than get my hands dirty from the car.

In the end, thanks for the tough love. I need a butt kicking sometimes. Sucks, but its true.

[Comin' in Hot]

One other thing, I'm sure Zack was smart enough to grind the inside of the passengers Side cam cover before you put it back on your engine. If he did it will be 1000 times easier to take off.

[Motorhead350]

One other thing, I'm sure Zack was smart enough to grind the inside of the passengers Side cam cover before you put it back on your engine. If he did it will be 1000 times easier to take off.

I will find out soon.

Heck, as long as they are coming off I might paint them. If another engine is needed, they can be transfered easily.

[whitey]

Its time man, im glad your doing it monday. My philosophy: its already broke, its not doing any good just sitting there...whats the worst that could happen, a learning experience.

[Comin' in Hot]

Its time man, im glad your doing it monday. My philosophy: its already broke, its not doing any good just sitting there...whats the worst that could happen, a learning experience.

Or in my words, "you're not going to ***** it up any worse than it already is." :lol:

[Motorhead350]

Or in my words, "you're not going to ***** it up any worse than it already is." :lol:

Yes I can.

I do not want to though.

[UncleLar]

Dom,I love ya like a younger brother and I've never got on your case and always had your back but now I have to tell you something.
Your car and sole source of transportation is broken.Everyone is offering to help you diagnose (that's often the hardest part of any repair) what's wrong with it and to walk you through darn near whatever will be required for YOU to fix your car or at least find out what's wrong to aid in fixing it.
You say you don't have time and want to spend time Sunday with Becky.
That's nice Dom,setting time aside to be together is a great thing,BUT,right now you've got a problem and it's affecting both of you and you need to handle it.Becky is one heck of a sweetheart of a woman,I told you way back she was a KEEPER.
I think she'd consider being out there handing tools or rags to you or just giving you moral support as spending quality time with you,and I think she'd be proud of you both for trying.I wish one of my ex wives was as tolerant and considerant as she is,so go tell her you could use and appreciate her help and ask if she'd do it.I'll bet she'll say yes and would be glad to.
So get up off your duff and get going.
BTH,my son's mother lay in a foot of snow with me out in the street in 10 degree weather handing me wrenches and holding stuff when we had to drop the oil pan on my 67 Ford wagon and fix the oil pump.I had to,my son was a newborn,I had no money and it was our only car.You do what you gotta do.
If I was still in Chicago I'd be glad to come over and lend you a hand,moral support and to teach you how to cuss at a FoMoCo properly.

[Motorhead350]

Its no problem for her, her truck still works.

Thanks for the words though.

[Curless]

O.K., just for grins I looked up the book time for changing out the valve cover gaskets...4.6 hours round trip. If you go by the basic rule that it takes twice as long to put it back together then it will take you 1.5 hours to take them off. How about you go take one bolt out every hour tomorrow...you'll know by the end of the day...:dunno:

[Blk04MM]

If its very bad I know of a 04 Cobra being parted out. It's down here in Florida tho. Guy told me 5k for EVERYTHING under the hood. 35k miles on the car before it got wrecked. So maybe worst case maybe you can sell your SC set up and drop in the cobra pull with eaton.

Good luck man

[Motorhead350]

If its very bad I know of a 04 Cobra being parted out. It's down here in Florida tho. Guy told me 5k for EVERYTHING under the hood. 35k miles on the car before it got wrecked. So maybe worst case maybe you can sell your SC set up and drop in the cobra pull with eaton.

Good luck man

That would be awesome!

We will see whats up with mine sooner than later... i hope.

[Chi Stallion]

Hang in there Dom you'll be back at it in no time. Heck sometimes its an learning experience when your right hand man ain't there no more. It's loyalty over royalty hang in there your always your own Boss.


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[Motorhead350]

Guys, a few people have told me to remove the starter and see if the engine cranks. My concern is the header and do I really need 24-30 inches of extention? I will do this tomorrow. Has anyone here changed a starter?

Time for exercise and sushi.

This BS tomorrow.

[RacerX]

Take the negative terminal off the battery, you do not want to short any wires off the starter! You can jack the car up (Be safe and Use stands!) and get to it easy enough. There are three 10mm bolts. The top one is a beotch if it's your first time. You shouldn't need to use a universal joint on it. If you lay under it with your legs towards the drivers side, you can get both hands up there to make it easier.

Btw, starter won't be the problem here.

[RF Overlord]

Btw, starter won't be the problem here.Yeah, that sounded like a long shot to me, too...

[Motorhead350]

Ladies, gentlemen and jackasses.

I am about to take off the starter and cam covers or attempt to. Today I predict hours of my time wasted, mostly because I have never removed or attempted to remove these parts before. I do not know why, but I have gotten PMs and facebook messages suggesting to remove the starter first. I do not know why those people would not post it in this thread, but here we go.

I also expect I will get texts from people asking how it's going how and how it went. My reply will be "I don't know what I am doing, but it cannot get much worse." I will be getting dirty, sour on the blacktop and my anger will rise by sundown because three things will probably happen...

1. Taking these parts off for the first time will take me forever, plus I am really worried about the passenger side cam cover.

2. Upon removal of these parts I will not find the problem.

3. The car will still not run and I will be even more livid.

Today will likely be filled with hours wasted and failure. It's going to be a great day in my world! Might as well put on some tunes... oh wait I disconnected the battery for the sake of saving it.

I love this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSFbhGEUrgs

[SC Cheesehead]

Ladies, gentlemen and jackasses.

... I will be getting dirty, sour on the blacktop and my anger will rise by sundown because three things will probably happen...

1. Taking these parts off for the first time will take me forever, plus I am really worried about the passenger side cam cover.

2. Upon removal of these parts I will not find the problem.

3. The car will still not run and I will be even more livid.

Today will likely be filled with hours wasted and failure....

I love this!


Welcome to the world of automotive troubleshooting, Dom... ;)

[Curless]

So in case you think its any easier when you do it everyday...I have been fighting this 71 Cutlass now for over 7 months! STOP CRYIN :bigcry: BUDDY! We ALL deal with it, if you don't want to.....wait for it.....

I'll give ya $8 for it!

Love ya Dom now get busy! :beer:

[Limited360]

Ladies, gentlemen and jackasses.

I am about to take off the starter and cam covers or attempt to. Today I predict hours of my time wasted, mostly because I have never removed or attempted to remove these parts before. I do not know why, but I have gotten PMs and facebook messages suggesting to remove the starter first. I do not know why those people would not post it in this thread, but here we go.

I also expect I will get texts from people asking how it's going how and how it went. My reply will be "I don't know what I am doing, but it cannot get much worse." I will be getting dirty, sour on the blacktop and my anger will rise by sundown because three things will probably happen...

1. Taking these parts off for the first time will take me forever, plus I am really worried about the passenger side cam cover.

2. Upon removal of these parts I will not find the problem.

3. The car will still not run and I will be even more livid.

Today will likely be filled with hours wasted and failure. It's going to be a great day in my world! Might as well put on some tunes... oh wait I disconnected the battery for the sake of saving it.

I love this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSFbhGEUrgs

Good luck to ya! Keep a positive output as the negatively will only hinder progress.

Wish ya best of luck!

[Motorhead350]

Could not get the starter completely off due to the header, but it was off enough to be off of the flywheel.

Engine still would not crank... yes by hand.

[Motorhead350]

Cam covers are disconnected, but cannot come fully off. I forgot about the wiper crowl to get the drivers side off. I cannot get the wiper arms off so I went to the passenger side. That cover is free, but again stuff is in the way to get that side fully off too. I will disconnect the passenger side motor mount and see if it frees up. Wiper arms and crowel is next.

This is actually going easier than I thought, but the clearance for the cam covers is a pain. Getting to the bolts is easier than I thought.

The timing chain is nice and tight on the drivers side and getting the starter off of the flywheel did not make the engine crank. In the end I would not call this a waste of time, we know what it isn't... I guess.

[fastblackmerc]

Cam covers are disconnected, but cannot come fully off. I forgot about the wiper crowl to get the drivers side off. I cannot get the wiper arms off so I went to the passenger side. That cover is free, but again stuff is in the way to get that side fully off too. I will disconnect the passenger side motor mount and see if it frees up. Wiper arms and crowel is next.

This is actually going easier than I thought, but the clearance for the cam covers is a pain. Getting to the bolts is easier than I thought.

The timing chain is nice and tight on the drivers side and getting the starter off of the flywheel did not make the engine crank. In the end I would not call this a waste of time, we know what it isn't... I guess.

No need to remove the cowl to get either cam cover off.

[Motorhead350]

No need to remove the cowl to get either cam cover off.

If there is no need to remove it, I must be a really horrible mechanic. I'll try this again.

:mad2:

[Comin' in Hot]

I took the wiper cowl off when I switched my cam covers, it gives you alot more clearance at the rear

[RF Overlord]

Dom, I know how you feel, but there are a lot of us who are sending good thoughts your way.

Try not to look at the time spent as "wasted", look at it as a learning experience. Whatever knowledge you gain will be with you for the rest of your life and someday, maybe soon, maybe later, you'll be glad you have it.

[justbob]

This is exactly why I charge what I charge plus numerous set rates for certain repairs/upgrades that benefit me, not the owner... It is NOT "fun", it is a messy, time consuming, space taking, endless tool purchasing, and most often annoying job. Believe me, I'd rather pick up fire ants with my butt cheeks than do this some times.

If it were fun, it would be a late 20's Ford hot rod.

I think it's awesome you are diving in and learning this crap. It's not a waste, its money saved, time saved scoring a trailer and dropping it some where, scoring said trailer again to pick it up if its terminal (hope not) and good learning.

Keep tearing into it. If you don't see anything, and the crank doesn't turn with the chains off, then you found your answer in only a few hours and can begin figuring out a plan. Or you will have found an easy repair that we can talk you thru.

Best of luck Bud.


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"

[Mebot]

Dom, I know how you feel, but there are a lot of us who are sending good thoughts your way.

Try not to look at the time spent as "wasted", look at it as a learning experience. Whatever knowledge you gain will be with you for the rest of your life and someday, maybe soon, maybe later, you'll be glad you have it.

There's also a lot of us who are hoping that this never happens to their Marauder but at same time we are waiting with baited breath to find out what the culprit is/was

Because this is a thread that we will be referencing in the future

sent from a Samsung Galaxy far far away...

[Curless]

This is exactly why I charge what I charge plus numerous set rates for certain repairs/upgrades that benefit me, not the owner... It is NOT "fun", it is a messy, time consuming, space taking, endless tool purchasing, and most often annoying job. Believe me, I'd rather pick up fire ants with my butt cheeks than do this some times.

If it were fun, it would be a late 20's Ford hot rod.

I think it's awesome you are diving in and learning this crap. It's not a waste, its money saved, time saved scoring a trailer and dropping it some where, scoring said trailer again to pick it up if its terminal (hope not) and good learning.

Keep tearing into it. If you don't see anything, and the crank doesn't turn with the chains off, then you found your answer in only a few hours and can begin figuring out a plan. Or you will have found an easy repair that we can talk you thru.

Best of luck Bud.


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"


This is exactly right. I get asked all of the time why I charge the amount I charge...well, lets me see...I own a shop $125,000 12 years ago and I got it that cheap because I knew the owner of the building for over 15 years prior to purchasing it. My hoists, taxes, utilities, employees, upkeep and lets not forget my tools...I have over $25,000 in sockets alone in my tool box...NO, I am not exaggerating that number either, ask anyone on here that has seen my set up. Its not cheap, its not easy, and it most certainly is not always fun.

It could be worse, I could have to punch a time clock for someone else and for me I can't do that!

Dom, I have "waisted" tons of time in my life, felt like I was idiot more than I care to admit, but each time I learned something for the next time. The key is to learn and not make the same mistake again. Just be glad that in this day and age you have this site at your fingertips...when I got started the only thing I had at my fingertips was band aids!

[RacerX]

Do you have insurance on her?

_qgrEJ4mWvI

[Motorhead350]

So livid right now. I cannot for the life of me free these covers.

As much as I keep trying to see this as not as waste of time, to me it still is. I do not plan on making a living working on cars. I should be at my computer finalizing a contract I have been working on for band management, I should be practicing my guitar, I should be writing songs, I should be on the phone, I should be booking this and that, I should be sending emails to people I met last night, I should be working on melodies... but NO. I am stuck working on my broken car and could have gotten the cold shoulder at the worst time... well maybe, but it seems like the worst.

Yes I know what it like to run a business, I did part take in one for a few years. I know you need to make a given number a day just to break even on your employees, bills to lights on, loans... yes I know how this works. I know sometimes in a shop you are paid for 8 hours of work for a given job and if it actually takes 11 you still charge for 8. Believe me I KNOW.

I'm so livid right now. This might be a life changing day. I do not know if I can deal with a car that is in constant need of attention any longer. If I had the choice I would keep the Marauder as a weekend toy and get a Town Car to DD. Right now I do not have a choice and last time I checked on what I could afford as a second car it had 300,000 miles.

Screw all of this BS!!!

Thanks for the help guys, I mean it. This is just frustrating beyond belief... over basic stuff I cannot do.

[UncleLar]

Hang in there Dom,you can do it.
I learned (finally) a long time ago when I get to a certain point and I's so PO'd I'm about to take a hammer to something and destroy it,to take a walk,go cool off for a couple hours or wait until the next day and come back and try again.Numerous times I did just that and came back and the parts I'd struggled for hours to get assembled correctly just literally fell into place.
I know you don't have a temper like mine,and mine use to be much worse.I once got stupid mad at a nice 58 Chevy Yeoman 2 dr wagon with a 301 and a 4 speed in it,flipped it on it's side and yanked the drive shaft out AND BEAT IT INTO A HUNK OF SCRAP METAL!
Calm down,take a break and when you're relaxed you'll get it done.I got faith in you.
And when you get done you can help me build the "new" Harley I'm working on.
The only hints I'm giving is the motor has Delkron cases,and I really like a certain Allstate commercial.
The good part about working on FoMoCo's and Harley's is I can save money on commonality of certain tools. Special Tool #1 in both Harley & Ford manuals is a BFH.

[TAKEDOWN]

I'm completely useless when it comes to this stuff like this, so you're years ahead of me. Hang in there Dom, it is what it is.

[UncleLar]

I'm completely useless when it comes to this stuff like this, so you're years ahead of me. Hang in there Dom, it is what it is.
Speaking of which,did you ever figure out what the problem was with your bike?

[TAKEDOWN]

Needed oil cooler, timing was off, battery not strong enough, etc... she's running now!

You'll get it done, Dom!i

[lji372]

So livid right now. I cannot for the life of me free these covers.

As much as I keep trying to see this as not as waste of time, to me it still is. I do not plan on making a living working on cars. I should be at my computer finalizing a contract I have been working on for band management, I should be practicing my guitar, I should be writing songs, I should be on the phone, I should be booking this and that, I should be sending emails to people I met last night, I should be working on melodies... but NO. I am stuck working on my broken car and could have gotten the cold shoulder at the worst time... well maybe, but it seems like the worst.

Yes I know what it like to run a business, I did part take in one for a few years. I know you need to make a given number a day just to break even on your employees, bills to lights on, loans... yes I know how this works. I know sometimes in a shop you are paid for 8 hours of work for a given job and if it actually takes 11 you still charge for 8. Believe me I KNOW.

I'm so livid right now. This might be a life changing day. I do not know if I can deal with a car that is in constant need of attention any longer. If I had the choice I would keep the Marauder as a weekend toy and get a Town Car to DD. Right now I do not have a choice and last time I checked on what I could afford as a second car it had 300,000 miles.

Screw all of this BS!!!

Thanks for the help guys, I mean it. This is just frustrating beyond belief... over basic stuff I cannot do.

Listen, this right here is your inspiration for a ballad while working on it and a rock song after it gets going:banana2:

[Curless]

Listen, this right here is your inspiration for a ballad while working on it and a rock song after it gets going:banana2:
I LOVE this idea....WRITE A SONG:

I hate everything about Marauders

Maruaders Got Big Balls Balls

Marauders Back IN Town

[RF Overlord]

I love it!

Dom, this is your opportunity to write the most angst-filled song evar...all full of pissing, moaning, wailing, gnashing of teeth, clenching of fists...

[babbage]

I try to fix my junk cause it breaks all the time.
Can't take it to wrench cause I don't have a dime.
Boosted my car and I thought I had it made.
Cept I blew too much and now it's "gre-nade"

<I'm working on the chorus> :)

[Motorhead350]

Guys, I hate to say it, but this isn't 1964 anymore. People do not care about car songs anymore. The only way to use this frustration for creativeness is to make it sound like a relationship that went south and was fixed. I had a song about the Marauder, but I never finished recording the lyrics because I knew it would be unsuccessful. There are a few songs for the situation though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HHNC9VcpSs

"There's been a lot of races we've been though / no slow poke now. I never wanna part with her you see? This Car Of Mine means a heck of a lot to me. I'm gonna fix her up as new as can be"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL0w-aOkF_k

^^^^^^Cannot post lyrics due to CONTENT, but they are in the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAFpcSra3WM

I doubt I will have a Sleeper any longer, but in case I do.... ^^^^

Finally... if I actually wanted a new car and if daddy could help me...

"I might as well be walking after driving this old Ford."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsuZfd-n2Qg

On a serious note, I still cannot get the cam covers off. Looks like there is more wiring and hoses to remove than I thought. Wiper crowel is finally off, but I still have a ways to go. I highly doubt I will be able to fix this on my own. Looks like I will be eating wish sandwiches, trying to get this back together or bye bye Boost.

[Motorhead350]

UPDATE.

Eric (yjmud) came over and checked out the damage. It turns out this issue is in the bottom end. My top end is fine, but there is a ton of sludge in the heads. I am not sure why because I changed the oil every 3,000 miles.

This thing has to be torn apart and hopefully it's a little issue, but right now it is uncertain. It still looks like my days of Boost are over, even if it means putting the S/C kit in a box and driving around in an N/A setup for now.

Thanks for all of the PMs, calls, texts and emails.... all from people who want to help. You guys have been great!

[SC Cheesehead]

I'm confused. Is the engine locked up or does it run? What's messed up in the bottom end?

[MMBLUE]

I'm confused. Is the engine locked up or does it run? What's messed up in the bottom end?

Me too :popcorn:

[MMBLUE]

My top end is fine, but there is a ton of sludge in the heads. I am not sure why because I changed the oil every 3,000 miles.

Just b/c you change the oil every 3K doesn't mean it's immune to anti slugging. Do you have a oil catch can on it? Is the PVC system working?

[Motorhead350]

Sorry if I was not clear. My top end is full of sludge, even though I changed the oil every 3,000 miles with Valvoline 5w30 Synthetic. The engine does not run, will not crank, nothing. You cannot even crank this thing by hand.

Looks like it will have to come apart to find the issue. Right now the best bet seems to be to replace the engine with an N/A setup and put the blower in my storage unit for another time... if things go my way in the next week or so. I would like a tear down, but it seems like it would be a waste of labor and money because I really do not want to have the blower on anymore. I need to be able to drive this thing from NYC to LA without having to worry about anything. With the setup I had, I checked out things at EVERY gas station stop for road trips.

It's wonderful isn't it? Do everything you are told and I still fail. Welcome to Hot Rodding.

Zack, texted me saying it would be cheaper to buy used heads than get mine back in shape. I guess I will be looking for a long block sooner or later and the S/C will be up for sale... IF I cannot come up with funding to repair the issue.

:shake:

I asked for this I guess, but it's not like I put off anything. I did everything I was told and still BOOM!

[MMBLUE]

http://www.modularmustangracing.com/

This is your best bet. Ask me How I know. All you need is a Credit card and an address for them to send it to you. And you keep the boost. Win win.

[Mebot]

Oh no. I use valvoline synthetic 5w30 too. Is the oil the culprit?

sent from a Samsung Galaxy far far away...

[Motorhead350]

http://www.modularmustangracing.com/

This is your best bet. Ask me How I know. All you need is a Credit card and an address for them to send it to you. And you keep the boost. Win win.

Tempting, but still not sure. If I had disposable income I would have this pulled already, but again, I am not sure I am up to Boost Maintenance. It will need something every week you drive it.


Oh no. I use valvoline synthetic 5w30 too. Is the oil the culprit?

sent from a Samsung Galaxy far far away...

The thing is I bought oil by the bulk at a dealership. I was told today the tankers the oil travels by, sometimes do not get cleaned. I could have a combo of old oil and fresh oil every time I changed it without even knowing it.

Right now Valvoline is another name on my *h*t list for this week.

[JoeBoomz]

Dom if you were to get the car running NA you would not be happy driving it after experiencing what it is like with the boost.

[Motorhead350]

Dom if you were to get the car running NA you would not be happy driving it after experiencing what it is like with the boost.

I am well aware, but until I get a sponsorship, someone donates parts to me or whatever magical wonders of the world happen. This is how it has to be.

:bigcry:

It would be great to tear it down, fix the issue and bolt it all back together, but I lack the skills, space, tools and above all... time. I would have no problem going to someones house and cut out the world for a few days and get this done, but I doubt that will happen.

I have a new respect for people that do this for a living. I don't know how you all can do it, but I guess like anything, time after time it can be done easier and faster.

Still, I never liked all the extra care I had to put into this thing, but it was soooooo worth it. Tonight was really depressing... pulled up to a mean sounding Mustang GT... in a Mountaineer. I don't stand a chance unless there was a snowfall.

To the end of fun....

[Seneca]

was the sludge from coolant maybe?? Hope you get her up and running again soon! Wish I was closer i'de give you a hand

[Jeffonebuck]

Steve Miller Band dun wrote it !!! Mercury Blues ! A lot of people **** a guitar down, Frustrated ! A lot stayed the course and made Beautiful Music,, One Note at a time and She will be back Burning Rubber, Motorhead !

[Motorhead350]

No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jonf4JMK81k

[Jeffonebuck]

Steve Miller Band dun wrote it !!! Mercury Blues ! A lot of people **** a guitar down, Frustrated ! A lot stayed the course and made Beautiful Music,, One Note at a time and She will be back Burning Rubber, Motorhead !

What's wrong with the word L A Y !!! 4 stars ??

[UncleLar]

No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jonf4JMK81k
Screw that Dom,pretty soon this'll be you.......................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4EFddbHkRo

[1 Bad Merc]

Dom-how about putting the blower back on and backing the tune down on it. That way you could put out only 475 HP instead of 650! Then you would not have to worry so much about it and the motor would last longer. Just a suggestion.

[Jeffonebuck]

No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jonf4JMK81k

No !,,,,,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsm8cH7q_Mk

[Marauderjack]

Do ya suppose the oil pump impeller might have disintegrated from detonation??:cool:

[RF Overlord]

Oh no. I use valvoline synthetic 5w30 too. Is the oil the culprit?Highly unlikely.

Any of today's major-brand synthetics will protect an engine properly. More probable is that Dom had excessive blow-by, a poorly-operating PCV system, or an internal coolant leak, although coolant in the oil makes it look like chocolate milk, so is pretty obvious.

[Motorhead350]

Well things got better today. My fallout guy for a tear down is now too busy.

Its understood though.

I do not have time for this crap neither.

[RF Overlord]

Dom, you keep saying you don't have time...you don't have time...you don't have time. Buy a POS transport appliance so you can get around your über-busy life and put the Marauder in the back yard until you DO have the time.

[Motorhead350]

You heard my solution on the phone Bob.

Now its a matter of who has the time. I will have to make the time.

[Black Dynamite]

I would suggest driving your K5, but I'm guessing it's gone?

[Motorhead350]

I would suggest driving your K5, but I'm guessing it's gone?

It needs a trans and other things. I still have it, always will.

[lji372]

Just realized someone already wrote a song about your car

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u2rCK2SKASI

[Motorhead350]

Rip off of this....

http://m.youtube.com/results?q=suicidal%20tendencie s%20i%20saw%20your%20mommy&oq=suicidal%20tendencies%20i%2 0&gs_l=youtube-reduced.1.1.41j0l3.1092.9592.0 .11369.22.8.0.14.14.0.429.1261 .5j1j0j1j1.8.0....0...1ac.1.23 .youtube-reduced..0.22.1498.OmyaxKPxv60 hat

[Joe Walsh]

I like this song:

3Fw0OvKFKhw

[Motorhead350]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AlHHmrYUPkc

Listen to the words or read them..

[Motorhead350]

UPDATE.

Zack is now saying he will do it if I show up with a complete running engine.

This could be a long time because I do not want to part with the supercharger. No more fun summer cruises I guess.

[SC Cheesehead]

UPDATE.

Zack is now saying he will do it if I show up with a complete running engine.

This could be a long time because I do not want to part with the supercharger. No more fun summer cruises I guess.


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88585

Up to you... :dunno:

[Motorhead350]

I do not need a complete setup, but a PM vould not hurt.

[Dre1842]

Hopefully you get what you need Dom.

[Motorhead350]

Hopefully you get what you need Dom.

Thanks Drake!

[Motorhead350]

This week will determine if the blower has to be sold. I would love to get a nice stock engine and put the blower in the back burner for a little while, but it is what it is.

[kernie]

I like this song:

3Fw0OvKFKhw


Ha! Hey if it gets you to the other side of the island....


Love it!

:beer:

[Motorhead350]

Hey Joe, let's see if your car even makes it to 100,000 in your ownership? K?

LOL

[sailsmen]

Motorhead - I give you credit for effort and tenacity! Don't give up, it always has a 100% failure rate when you do.

[Motorhead350]

It'll get done Dude, maybe not the most exiting way, but it'll be going again.

Thanks for keeping the motivation going.

[MM2004]

Maybe if you actually paid for yours you might feel differently. Daddy won't buy you another? :cry:

LOL :bricks:


Nope. Daddy cannot even afford a tune up for his car FYI. Times are different now.

Are you jealous your dad didn't buy you one or are you just an a-hole?

Seriously guys?

This will get the thread closed quick.

Mike.

[Motorhead350]

Sorry Mike, that was uncalled for on both of our ends.

I cannot believe I am saying this, but feel free to delete my previous post.

[MM2004]

Sorry Mike, that was uncalled for on both of our ends.

I cannot believe I am saying this, but feel free to delete my previous post.

Not just yet.

Going to depend on J-MAN's reply (if any)

;)

Mike.

[Motorhead350]

Not just yet.

Going to depend on J-MAN's reply (if any)

;)

Mike.

I like your way of decision making.

[Motorhead350]

Let's see here. Up until a few years ago my upbringing consisted of everyone getting a new car every year or two. Nothing just with my family, but my parents parents. They were all very successful in life and could afford to do things like that. It didn't matter if it was designing apartment buildings, hospitals or restaurant ownership. They could afford to buy new cars and have someone else work on them. Our parents always bought new cars for their kids, but nothing too flashy. Usually American cars such as a hand-me-down 56 Buick Roadmaster or a 64 Ford Galaxy. When they wanted "higher class" cars like a BMW M6, Jaguar, and Mercedes CLK430 they EARNED them by working hard, sometimes working for 50 hours straight. Not by punching a clock and complaining how much is sucks that others are earning more money.

Now when it comes down to me I was expected to follow. I was bought a new car because my 12 year old Chevy was in constant need of repair. My first car was a 1990 K5 Blazer and I still have it, but it's broken too. I earned enough money to buy myself a used police car by the time I was barely 16, but daddy wanted me to have something with a warranty and not stranded.

So yes, I had the ability to buy my own car when I was a teenager, but was denied. BTW we didn't keep our money to ourselves. Always donated good amounts to charity during the holidays and gave loans to co-workers in desperate need, got their friends work.

When things do not go my way, I get mad, but that's human nature. I find a way to make things happen no matter what. I don't care what anyone thinks. I know who I am.

Finally, it is a good day... I woke up.

Happy Maraudering Bud. :burnout:

[boatmangc]

Dom,
I don't see any reason not to keep the supercharger man, just turn the wick down.
You don't have to be able to spank EVERY Z06 just some of them.

Hang in there, everything will work out just like it is supposed to.

[Motorhead350]

Dom,
I don't see any reason not to keep the supercharger man, just turn the wick down.
You don't have to be able to spank EVERY Z06 just some of them.

Hang in there, everything will work out just like it is supposed to.

I need funding to cover this repair. Believe me, I don't want to sell it, but if I have to so be it. I have better things to worry about than a broken Hot Rod. horsepower will always be around for sale, youth and opportunities will not be.

[SC Cheesehead]

I need funding to cover this repair. Believe me, I don't want to sell it, but if I have to so be it. I have better things to worry about than a broken Hot Rod. horsepower will always be around for sale, youth and opportunities will not be.

Well said. :up:

[Motorhead350]

Update.....

[Joe Walsh]

Hey Joe, let's see if your car even makes it to 100,000 in your ownership? K?

LOL

Naw....My Marauder will never make it to 100,000 miles.

I've got a daily driver and other cool cars to spread the fun around!.....:D

[Motorhead350]

Naw....My Marauder will never make it to 100,000 miles.

I've got a daily driver and other cool cars to spread the fun around!.....:D

Maybe someday I can be as cool as you.

:cool:

[Joe Walsh]

Maybe someday I can be as cool as you.

:cool:

Nahhh....you whine too much.

BTW: Have you (or someone else) figured out what is wrong with your S/C Cobra engine yet?
Or have you found some suckers....errrr....I mean....'sponsors' to help you buy another engine??