Service Manual download?

[drhill]

Hi Everyone, my A/C compressor just seized up...I was looking online for a place to download a copy of the service manual for these cars (I don't mind paying!) like I have done with each of my other cars but can't seem to find one. Can someone point me in the right direction? I don't want the actual paper books, just a pdf version...or even just the pages for the a/c system ?

THanks!!!!

[SC Cheesehead]

Not certain there's a downloadable version. I do know you can get them in DVD and hard copy (IMO, the hard copy's much more user friendly).

http://www.auto-repair-manuals.com/2003-Ford-Crown-Victoria-Grand-Marquis-Workshop-Manual-FCS1219103.html?gclid=CJTd8rze wbgCFYyY4AodYUUAtw

here's another source (lotsa guys here have used them with good results, including me):

http://stores.ebay.com/Lorie-and-Jeff

[CWright]

You might can try this.

http://www.gdmjoe.com/marauder/documents/documents.html

[cat in the hat]

HELM publishes the shop manual :

http://www.helminc.com/helm/homepage.asp?Style=helm

Chilton also has an on-line subscription :

http://www.chiltondiy.com/?gclid=CNqUqtjjwbgCFYmk4AodWU4 A1w

I've never used either one. (I got a hard copy on Ebay.)

[RF Overlord]

HELM publishes the shop manual :
Chilton also has an on-line subscription :
I've never used either one. (I got a hard copy on Ebay.)Given the choice, the factory service manual is far superior. Don't even bother with a Haynes manual...they're full of incorrect info and missing a lot.

[cat in the hat]

Given the choice, the factory service manual is far superior. Don't even bother with a Haynes manual...they're full of incorrect info and missing a lot.

Agreed. They are on Ebay all the time, sometimes for under $50 - $75.

[fastblackmerc]

Agreed. They are on Ebay all the time, sometimes for under $50 - $75.

This is the way to go.

[drhill]

Thanks for the replys guys. I will go and get one from the autorepairmanuals.com site for $55...seems like a good deal. By the way - in case it doesn't get here on time...does anyone know the PAG 46 oil charge amount for the a/c system? I assume the r134a charge quantity is somewhere under the hood?


Thanks!!!! :beer:

[RF Overlord]

From the FSM:

PAG oil capacity is 222 ml (7.5 oz).

Refrigerant capacity is 1.08 kg (38 oz).

[DWSTANG67]

I use the all data diy gives service, repair , parts, avg repair time. and tsb '

the link http://www.alldatadiy.com/

[SC Cheesehead]

I use the all data diy gives service, repair , parts, avg repair time. and tsb '

the link http://www.alldatadiy.com/

Interesting.

Is the info fairly complete? How does it work, like a search engine?

[DWSTANG67]

The program is setup as a computerized shop manual broken down by section So it's not like a searchable Internet program

[Richy04]

You won't need a shop manual for this job...

If your compressor seized, you should:

Clean all of the lines and flush the system, you can use mineral spirits and compressed air, take all of the stuff off I mentioned below that will get replaced and that will make it easier to clean.
Replace the Condensor and change the oriface tube, they are color coded.
Install a GM style debris catch before the new condensor.
Install a suction screen (GM style) before the compressor return.
PAG 46 OIL with ICE 32 additive. 7.5 oz minus what came in the new compressor. You should evenly distribute the oil around the system as you reassemble the system so you don't lock the new compressor with too much oil.

New Compressor (4 seasons, Factory or other respected rebuilder or New)
New Accumulator, make sure its aluminum and has the straight up nipple not the bent nipple. Bent Nipple has a T before the part number, it won't fit a Marauder.

A totally disassembled system should be vac'ed a few hours and checked for leaks.

[drhill]

Awesome - thanks for the info. I've done a lot of ac systems since we moved to "the desert" but it's always helpful to have input! I have a new denso compressor plus new condenser, accumulator, orifice tube and o rings on order. I have a local shop that does the flushing for me - I tried that once and it sucked big time. I'll pay someone else $100 for that!

The question I have is about the suction screen and debris filter - would this be a custom install? Where do you buy these and how do you install them? I understand the purpose and I agree with their usage. I've just never done them before.


You won't need a shop manual for this job...

If your compressor seized, you should:

Clean all of the lines and flush the system, you can use mineral spirits and compressed air, take all of the stuff off I mentioned below that will get replaced and that will make it easier to clean.
Replace the Condensor and change the oriface tube, they are color coded.
Install a GM style debris catch before the new condensor.
Install a suction screen (GM style) before the compressor return.
PAG 46 OIL with ICE 32 additive. 7.5 oz minus what came in the new compressor. You should evenly distribute the oil around the system as you reassemble the system so you don't lock the new compressor with too much oil.

New Compressor (4 seasons, Factory or other respected rebuilder or New)
New Accumulator, make sure its aluminum and has the straight up nipple not the bent nipple. Bent Nipple has a T before the part number, it won't fit a Marauder.

A totally disassembled system should be vac'ed a few hours and checked for leaks.

[RF Overlord]

Clean all of the lines and flush the system, you can use mineral spirits and compressed air, Forgive my ignorance, but I thought the reason they went to PAG oils was because R134 wasn't compatible with mineral?

[fastblackmerc]

Forgive my ignorance, but I thought the reason they went to PAG oils was because R134 wasn't compatible with mineral?

Mineral spirits... not mineral oil.

Never use any oil-based solvents to flush an A/C system. You need the solvent to evaporate completely and oil-based solvents won't do that.



Flushing a system is not a DIY service to start with and the reasoning is that all refigerant has to be reclaimed. This requires equipment an average DIY'er does not have.

Next, a system is generally flushed part by part. You do not want to flush anything into another part of the system and any drier and/or filter would need to be replaced anyway.

After you finally get it all flushed, which isn't actually that difficult IF you have the proper machines and materials and you reassemble the thing, you need to vacuum the thing out. That requires a vacuum pump. Something, again, an average DIY'er doesn't have setting around home.

Then you simply refill the system with the appropriate amount of refrigerant AND oil and get cooled off if all was done properly.

This isn't meant to scare one off from doing the work themselves, simply, it isn't quite as simple as it sounds.

You can pay to have the freon reclaimed to start with. The flushing can be done with commonly purchased chems and an air compressor and a flush gun is available to all willing to purchase one.

Don't forget; if there are any problems, they are all yours.