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LOWBUCKMM
07-30-2013, 08:34 PM
To start off I knew I was going turbo so I had to make room so you can see the turbo so the coolant and power steering resevior had to move.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn223/sl398/image-24.jpg (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/sl398/media/image-24.jpg.html)

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn223/sl398/image-23.jpg (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/sl398/media/image-23.jpg.html)

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn223/sl398/image-22.jpg (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/sl398/media/image-22.jpg.html)
So now plenty of room to see the turbo.

Plenty of parts for me and justbob to install

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn223/sl398/image-20.jpg (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/sl398/media/image-20.jpg.html)

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn223/sl398/image-2.jpg (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/sl398/media/image-2.jpg.html)


Mock up the turbo

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn223/sl398/image-17.jpg (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/sl398/media/image-17.jpg.html)

Bob had to custom make the waste gate pipe he did damn good if you ask me.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn223/sl398/image-18.jpg (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/sl398/media/image-18.jpg.html)

Ok now time for the finished pictures

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn223/sl398/image-14.jpg (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/sl398/media/image-14.jpg.html)

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn223/sl398/image-12.jpg (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/sl398/media/image-12.jpg.html)

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn223/sl398/image-13.jpg (http://s305.photobucket.com/user/sl398/media/image-13.jpg.html)


Thanks to bob the install was not to bad it only took us almost 3 days to finish it. And we took our time to do it was no rush at all. Fired right up and drives fine. But I still need to Dyno tune it befor I can really see what she can do now. So in a couple weeks ill have it tuned to see what it has for power.

lji372
07-30-2013, 08:38 PM
Oh snap!

Sweeet:banana2:


Staying tuned for numbers:D

TAKEDOWN
07-30-2013, 08:39 PM
Bad a$$ Brothah!

Blk04MM
07-30-2013, 08:41 PM
Daaaaaaammmn. Super nice

Looks like a PTK kit. Is it?

What size turbo?

Stock motor? ....DETAILS PLEASE

LOWBUCKMM
07-30-2013, 08:44 PM
Daaaaaaammmn. Super nice

Looks like a PTK kit. Is it?

What size turbo?

Yea it is the last PTK kit that has never been on a car till now. It's a t64e precision 66mm turbo.

Seneca
07-30-2013, 08:45 PM
dang that was fast!!!! Sweet!

ChiTownMaraud3r
07-30-2013, 09:09 PM
Very nice! I wants one!!!

Blk04MM
07-30-2013, 09:23 PM
Yea it is the last PTK kit that has never been on a car till now. It's a t64e precision 66mm turbo.


Nice. Very clean. :burnout::burnout:

CWright
07-31-2013, 02:18 AM
Looking good buddy! :beer: I can't wait to see your numbers! :burnout::burnout:

MOTOWN
07-31-2013, 05:01 AM
OHHHHHH snap!!!!! this is outstanding! looks firstclass

martyo
07-31-2013, 05:45 AM
Looks great!

Mebot
07-31-2013, 06:00 AM
What are the advantages of going Turbo, rather than Trilogy or Eaton? Not trying to start a flamewar, and I'm quite impressed with your set-up. I am simply curious. We have a lot of Trilogies, tons of Eaton swaps, some Vortech guys and some prochargers. But very few Turbos.

Are the HP numbers the same? or is the build process much more extensive than say an Eaton? What's the rationale for Turbo?

thanks

Curless
07-31-2013, 06:01 AM
Nicely done, I was not aware that anyone made a kit for our cars!

juno
07-31-2013, 06:06 AM
If you haven't, make sure you put a .060 restictor in the oil supply line to the turbo. If it's not there the oil won't drain fast enough and there is a possibilty of coking.

It looks nice and pretty! Good luck with it!

SC Cheesehead
07-31-2013, 06:37 AM
What are the advantages of going Turbo, rather than Trilogy or Eaton? Not trying to start a flamewar, and I'm quite impressed with your set-up. I am simply curious. We have a lot of Trilogies, tons of Eaton swaps, some Vortech guys and some prochargers. But very few Turbos.

Are the HP numbers the same? or is the build process much more extensive than say an Eaton? What's the rationale for Turbo?

thanks

A roots or centri blower requires engine power to drive them, thus superchargers cannibalize some of the horsepower they create. Turbos use exhaust gas to drive the blower impeller which is basically "free," so more power is developed with a smaller set up.

Build process is definitely more extensive, and with the execption of Brandon's PTK, there aren't any commercially available turbo kits for a Marauder; everything pretty much has to be fabbed from scratch.

After seeing Zack's Turbo Blue, I'm a big believer, but doubt I'll end up switching from the Eaton, just do to the effort involved.

sailsmen
07-31-2013, 06:45 AM
Both can make more power than the engine and drive train can handle.

Looking forward to seeing the numbers.

ps Better make sure your air filter supports your power.;)

babbage
07-31-2013, 07:15 AM
Good job guys. Too bad that PTK kit isn't around anymore.
What did you use for your power steering reserve? It looks nice and neat over there.

LOWBUCKMM
07-31-2013, 07:38 AM
What are the advantages of going Turbo, rather than Trilogy or Eaton? Not trying to start a flamewar, and I'm quite impressed with your set-up. I am simply curious. We have a lot of Trilogies, tons of Eaton swaps, some Vortech guys and some prochargers. But very few Turbos.

Are the HP numbers the same? or is the build process much more extensive than say an Eaton? What's the rationale for Turbo?

thanks

It's free horsepower like sccheesehead said. All power adders are great for our cars. I almost bought a vortec kit long ago and i still want to buy a marauder with one. But I really like stuff you don't see a lot which is why I really injoy the marauder. And a turbo kit on a marauder you just don't see. I have had this ptk kit for 2.5years. So for my 30th birthday this last weekend I wanted the kit on. So this is my present to myself.

Mebot
07-31-2013, 08:04 AM
A roots or centri blower requires engine power to drive them, thus superchargers cannibalize some of the horsepower they create. Turbos use exhaust gas to drive the blower impeller which is basically "free," so more power is developed with a smaller set up.

Build process is definitely more extensive, and with the execption of Brandon's PTK, there aren't any commercially available turbo kits for a Marauder; everything pretty much has to be fabbed from scratch.

After seeing Zack's Turbo Blue, I'm a big believer, but doubt I'll end up switching from the Eaton, just do to the effort involved.


It's free horsepower like sccheesehead said. All power adders are great for our cars. I almost bought a vortec kit long ago and i still want to buy a marauder with one. But I really like stuff you don't see a lot which is why I really injoy the marauder. And a turbo kit on a marauder you just don't see. I have had this ptk kit for 2.5years. So for my 30th birthday this last weekend I wanted the kit on. So this is my present to myself.


Thanks for the info, and you're right you don't see many of these Turbos. That's kind of why I inquired. Seems like the work involved is extensive, but with the right mindset and the right tools, you can make anything work. I think a lot of us like the "turn-key" bolt on approach with a Trilogy or scavenger hunt with the Eaton. At least with Eaton, very little fabrication is required.

well happy birthday man and hope you get some good numbers from the dyno. thanks for answering my question!

juno
07-31-2013, 08:28 AM
I think a lot of us like the "turn-key" bolt on approach

Or you can just buy a whole car with the complete PTK kit up and running for 5 years! :)

kariamack
07-31-2013, 09:16 AM
The guy who designed and built the first marauder ptk kit now owns c&g fabrication here in San Antonio tx. We have spoken a few times about the ptk kit. It wasn't a great success back then when it first came out. He didn't own ptk he was just a fabricator. But now c&g is his. He has designed and built some of the fastest turbo cars in tx from lathel performance twin turbo corvette of San Antonio. I've spooked to him about a marauder project and he's down to build another kit. If I didn't have a project now. I would be all over it. . Good luck with that kit. I owned it for a few years myself. Just never got around to putting it on.

justbob
07-31-2013, 10:31 AM
Three days???

Friday night. Headers installed and tear down.

Saturday. Mock up, little fabbing, most hot pipes, take a break for a few hours, then look into the intercooler.

Sunday. What 5 hours? Tops? Final assembly, fuel pump, gauge wiring, start up. Test drive to Portillos, eat, clean up, done.

Too. Damn. Easy.

Enjoy Bud!


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Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
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CWright
07-31-2013, 10:54 AM
Three days???

Friday night. Headers installed and tear down.

Saturday. Mock up, little fabbing, most hot pipes, take a break for a few hours, then look into the intercooler.

Sunday. What 5 hours? Tops? Final assembly, fuel pump, gauge wiring, start up. Test drive to Portillos, eat, clean up, done.

Too. Damn. Easy.

Enjoy Bud!


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"


BOB, this is way cool brother! I like the turbo setup! :beer:

TAKEDOWN
07-31-2013, 11:05 AM
Nice job Bob... Excellent!!!

LOWBUCKMM
07-31-2013, 11:19 AM
Three days???

Friday night. Headers installed and tear down.

Saturday. Mock up, little fabbing, most hot pipes, take a break for a few hours, then look into the intercooler.

Sunday. What 5 hours? Tops? Final assembly, fuel pump, gauge wiring, start up. Test drive to Portillos, eat, clean up, done.

Too. Damn. Easy.

Enjoy Bud!


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"


Yea I'm sure if we took total hours we Actually worked on it. It should be around 24hours. Give or take a couple. After the headers the rest went pretty easy. Thanks for the help again bob. Oh and the tools and lift and the fabing you did. Oh and selling it to me.

SC Cheesehead
07-31-2013, 11:21 AM
Three days???

Friday night. Headers installed and tear down.

Saturday. Mock up, little fabbing, most hot pipes, take a break for a few hours, then look into the intercooler.

Sunday. What 5 hours? Tops? Final assembly, fuel pump, gauge wiring, start up. Test drive to Portillos, eat, clean up, done.

Too. Damn. Easy.

Enjoy Bud!


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"


BOB, this is way cool brother! I like the turbo setup! :beer:

JB is a mod monster.... :bows::bows::bows:

tbone
07-31-2013, 12:22 PM
Congrats Brandon! Can't wait to see it at the meet August 18th!!!
:beer:

SC Cheesehead
07-31-2013, 12:49 PM
Congrats Brandon! Can't wait to see it at the meet August 18th!!!
:beer:

And I ain't gonna be there....:alone:

tbone
07-31-2013, 01:02 PM
And I ain't gonna be there....:alone:


Yeah, that stinks!

VMARAUDER
07-31-2013, 01:10 PM
Whoa! Now if I decide to power up I don't know if I would do a S/C or a Turbo now :burnout:


Yea I'm sure if we took total hours we Actually worked on it. It should be around 24hours. Give or take a couple. After the headers the rest went pretty easy. Thanks for the help again bob. Oh and the tools and lift and the fabing you did. Oh and selling it to me.

DTUB
07-31-2013, 01:47 PM
Looking good HIGHBUCKMM and nice job as allways JB.
When ya going in for the tune? I need to get my car done too.

1 Bad Merc
07-31-2013, 03:24 PM
Three days???

Friday night. Headers installed and tear down.

Saturday. Mock up, little fabbing, most hot pipes, take a break for a few hours, then look into the intercooler.

Sunday. What 5 hours? Tops? Final assembly, fuel pump, gauge wiring, start up. Test drive to Portillos, eat, clean up, done.

Too. Damn. Easy.

Enjoy Bud!


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"


You da Man -Biscuits :bows: Congrats Brandon -I know you are going to have fun with this:banana2:

LOWBUCKMM
07-31-2013, 04:50 PM
Whoa! Now if I decide to power up I don't know if I would do a S/C or a Turbo now :burnout:

You need to find a PTK turbo kit first. A couple times I wanted to sell the kit and buy a Paxton or vortec. But I'm glad I stayed with the turbo. Just can't wait for the Dyno tune. And the first time I put it to the floor on the street.

justbob
07-31-2013, 05:35 PM
You all do understand this is an extinct kit made for the Marauder right? Of course, nothing is a perfect fit so this isn't exactly a throw it in deal, but 90% is thought free and most anyone here could figure this out. The other 10% requires very little skill. Just wanted to be clear on that.

You want to see some extreme one off stuff, then check out Zacks blue.

Regardless, I think this is a good kit and lay down some mad numbers. Can't wait to hear the results!!!

Just got word to start working Saturdays now on top of my normal 12-15's a day. JBMS is now CLOSED!


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"

SC Cheesehead
07-31-2013, 05:42 PM
You all do understand this is an extinct kit made for the Marauder right? Of course, nothing is a perfect fit so this isn't exactly a throw it in deal, but 90% is thought free and most anyone here could figure this out. The other 10% requires very little skill. Just wanted to be clear on that.

You want to see some extreme one off stuff, then check out Zacks blue.

Regardless, I think this is a good kit and lay down some mad numbers. Can't wait to hear the results!!!

Just got word to start working Saturdays now on top of my normal 12-15's a day. JBMS is now CLOSED!


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"


JB + OT = http://themoderatevoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/moneybags.png

Good stuff!

NTHE10s
08-17-2013, 10:08 AM
Any updates? Power/track numbers?

Black_Noise
08-19-2013, 11:04 AM
O.m.g, GET A BETTER CAMERA! ha ha.

Looks good though

LOWBUCKMM
10-09-2013, 06:03 PM
Any updates? Power/track numbers?

Car runs and drives its got 3-7 pounds of boost. Well starts at 7 then goes down to 3. So it only makes 318hp at the wheels. Sending in the turbo to get rebuilt. I have tested just about everything else and fixed what was not right.

The car feels like a rocket off the line but just loses all the steam around 3500rpm. So after the turbo gets rebuilt I hope it making power like it should.

Oh and the damn turbo leaks oil that's another reason for the rebuild. It's my fault bought a used turbo and let it sit for 6 months and I should have just sent it in for a rebuild. All of this is why I had a notch back fox body in Atlanta and not my marauder.

juno
10-10-2013, 08:48 AM
Keep plugging away!

Mebot
10-11-2013, 06:47 PM
Aside from the PTK kit are there any other parts to hunt down and acquire before install?

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lifespeed
10-13-2013, 11:38 PM
Is the turbo even sized correct for your application? Do you have full specs and compressor and turbine maps?

Mebot
10-14-2013, 04:18 AM
Is the turbo even sized correct for your application? Do you have full specs and compressor and turbine maps?

Please explain, thanks!

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juno
10-22-2013, 10:06 AM
Is the turbo even sized correct for your application? Do you have full specs and compressor and turbine maps?


Yes it is. It is one of the ones offered with the kit. It will make well over 600 rwhp if you can support it. I have the same one and mine is set at about 33% on my electronic boost controller to make 9.5 psi.