Procharger install faq's needed

[JBeezy]

As some may already know, I'm purchasing motorhead's Procharger. I've been reading and looking for some install tips without much success. I'm familiar with the basic install of a Supercharger as far as mounting and plumbing, but I'm looking for Marauder specific details. Ive been talking with Blackened300a. I appreciate his will to get me headed in the right direction. It has been brought to my attention that I may need a different fan of some type to allow room for placement of the blower itself. If any others can provide me with some need to know info, I'd greatly appreciate it.

This is my first major mod to my '03 MM, and havent done any major work to it besides gears, program, and cold air. My experience has been with Foxbody Mustangs.

Thanks in advance.

[RubberCtyRauder]

Although mine is a DR vortech set up (I did not purchase from DR, but from a member who never installed it) I got some info from Pat in Louisiana. Pat mailed me a install instruction for basically the mustang fr which the kit was derived from and i copied it and sent it to Dustin in Cali who was having trouble getting some answers and parts from DR. I'm not sure if it will help or not, I'm not exactly sure where I have it right now after packing and moving into my house back in April. The fan for the vortech system is a mustang electric fan that mounts slightly off center. Unfortunatley I do not have a parts list or part numbers. If i can find it, I'll copy and send it if yuo like. or you can Pm Pat or Dustin (88LTDCV351) to see if they have a fan part number

[1 Bad Merc]

Check out any/all procharger posts on this forum. Hopefully someone has to have kit instructions laying around they could forward to you. Hang in there and good luck!

[1stMerc]

Pm me your email address. I can send you the manual if you don't have it. It shows you what to do with the fan and shroud. Biggest pain is routing all the piping.
Did you get or do you have the 39# injectors?

P.s mine was also a take off.

[sailsmen]

Good Luck.
Flip the OEM fan shroud 180*.

Use TClamps. I have good luck w/ BoostController.com for couplings and TClamps.

[JBeezy]

Pm me your email address. I can send you the manual if you don't have it. It shows you what to do with the fan and shroud. Biggest pain is routing all the piping.
Did you get or do you have the 39# injectors?

P.s mine was also a take off.

He is supplying 60's with this kit.

[1stMerc]

He is supplying 60's with this kit.

Cool, wasn't sure if he was providing them or not.

[JBeezy]

Yes. I know I'm getting on his nerves with various questions. Just trying to get everything lined up. I was going to wait a while to install this but the more I visit this site the more anxious i get.

[Blackened300a]

Wow 60s? May wanna go with 39s since you are running lower boost on a stock engine. The fan was out of a 02 or 04 mustang gt that the vortechs used. MMBLUE who I sold mine to maybe can offer up the part number. The marauder electronics will have to be adapted into it. It looked like they wired it in and zip tied the module off the marauder fan onto it.
Here's a pic of it.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/null_zps4ee4876b.jpg

[JBeezy]

My buddy and I were talking about this a while back. When I ran my supercharged fox I ran 42's. They were almost at there max if I'm not mistaken. I was running 10-12 psi. He was saying most people are recommending 60's now so fuel will not be an issue and have to worry about maxing out the duty cycle on the injectors

As far as the fan, another member up top was saying rotate the shroud. In the pics it looks like trimming the shroud will work. Hopefully someone will chime in and clarify that either will work.

[Blackmobile]

Flip the fan shroud 180 degrees and you won't have to trim anything.

[martyo]

He is supplying 60's with this kit.

They will be just fine for you.

[JBeezy]

Thanks Marty. It will be coming to you for tuning for sure

[martyo]

Thanks Marty. It will be coming to you for tuning for sure

Hurry up and install that thing. It will change your life!

[RoyLPita]

Did you get the crossover tube and an upgraded fuel pump?

[JBeezy]

Did you get the crossover tube and an upgraded fuel pump?

Working on the crossover tube, and going to order a pump next week. Thinking of going with the Aeromotive 340

[Seneca]

yes Make sure u run a upgraded fuel pump. Flip the Fan over As other have said. That's how mine is. I also have the install manual if u need I can email to you, It's not the best Manual by far but it gives a good idea of what needs to be done. I little trimming on ur stock tensioner is needed also. a spacer here and there... Makes sure you get the pulleys lined up. Cross over pipe between the heads u will need raised like an inch or so. is dom giving you the old one? Have fun!!!

[Merrill]

If you haven't done it already now would be the time for the rear head cooling mod.
You are going to love it.

[JBeezy]

If you haven't done it already now would be the time for the rear head cooling mod.
You are going to love it.

I thought of that too. Not sure what it takes to do this said mod. What's involved? Well I can do a search as well.

[guagesluggish]

congratulations on the buy,I saw it the day earlier and was ready to buy this weekend but was working out of town, doesn't help ive bought 2 MM this summer already, Lucky guy

[guagesluggish]

cornering the market with the km/h dash boards ha

[JoeBoomz]

I thought of that too. Not sure what it takes to do this said mod. What's involved? Well I can do a search as well.

Do it absolutely. I just cooked #8 on my stock motor at 12 PSI without the cooling mod. Every other cylinder looks perfect.

[JBeezy]

What does it take to do this mod? Sounds like its the first thing I need to do. Could Mo's do this mod when I take it for tuning I wonder?

[1stMerc]

Yes Mo's can do it. It involves removing lower intake to swap two freeze plugs on top rear of block with ones that have tubes welded on. Connecting hoses and routing to front radiator hose or I think one of the heater hoses. It's to get coolant to rear of the head. Not sure who sells the kits now.

[martyo]

What does it take to do this mod? Sounds like its the first thing I need to do. Could Mo's do this mod when I take it for tuning I wonder?


Yes Mo's can do it. It involves removing lower intake to swap two freeze plugs on top rear of block with ones that have tubes welded on. Connecting hoses and routing to front radiator hose or I think one of the heater hoses. It's to get coolant to rear of the head. Not sure who sells the kits now.

Yep. Yep.

Get the fastblackmerc one. Keep in mind they are made to order so factor in production time.

[JBeezy]

Doesn't sound like too bad of a job. I remember over a year ago I asked if someone close to me would like to assist in this mod and I'd pay them. I like getting my hands dirty too

[JBeezy]

Yep. Yep.

Get the fastblackmerc one. Keep in mind they are made to order so factor in production time.

Contacted fastbackmerc and he said he didn't offer a kit. I see Reinhardt has a kit for $165.

[RubberCtyRauder]

Search for musclemerc on google...He has a website. I believe that is who Marty was referring

[TAKEDOWN]

Excited for you and can't wait to see it finished!

[JBeezy]

Thanks. I'm excited as well. Looks like I have a lot of work to do prior to taking it to get tuned.

[martyo]

Contacted fastbackmerc and he said he didn't offer a kit. I see Reinhardt has a kit for $165.


Search for musclemerc on google...He has a website. I believe that is who Marty was referring

Yes I meant musclemerc. You can reach him on SVTPerformance

Sorry my post was screwed up.

[JBeezy]

Fastblackmerc said he may have one of reinharts kits that he may not use.

[babbage]

Fastblackmerc said he may have one of reinharts kits that he may not use.

Rinhart rear head cooling kit is better, imho. Billet freeze plug adapters, that fit either NA or eaton swap, with o-rings and keeper brace that are screwed on, not an old brass plug filled with solder that you have to hammer in...

[JBeezy]

What plugs are recommended or work best?

[martyo]

NGK 4177's

[Blackened300a]

NGK-TR6 are also recommended with a .028 gap

[JBeezy]

Is it possible that anyone would have a pic or layout of the parts to mount the headunit. Just wanting to make sure I have what I need. Not saying he didn't send everything, just wanting to be sure before we start the install.

[Blackmobile]

Hope this helps

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/670/medium/DSCN0001.JPG

[JBeezy]

I really need to see which spacer/bushings are used with which pulley and where.

[1stMerc]

I really need to see which spacer/bushings are used with which pulley and where.

Hmmm, show me what you got.
Judging by the pic of the head unit posted in another thread, you should have two studs with nuts, one washer and one bushing that attach the head unit to the front of the engine. One goes thru pulley adjacent to the tensioner pulley (remove existing bolt. The other goes just above that one (remove bolt that is there). IIRC they both go in as far as they can and still with enough thread left showing for washer, bracket and nut for top stud and pulley bushing, bracket nut for bottom one. No washer/spacer/bushing on front side of bracket.
BTW, the discharge tube opening points toward the ground.

Remove the bolt that goes into the left ear of the lower alternator mount. You should have an allen head bolt that replaces it. The idler pulley that attaches to this is the tricky part. There should be bushing for front and back of this pulley. Small offset bracket bushing-pulley-bushing-bracket-allen head bolt. Do not tighten, as offset bracket sits at certain angle to seat correctly. Very little space between pulley and water pump pulley.

Hope this helps.

[JBeezy]

I will get pics of what I have when I go to my buddies shop this morning. The instruction manual has pics but I only wish it had a detailed parts layout so I know I have it all. im not sure if I have both small idler bushings as shown below. If I could get a pic of one installed that would be great. Not sure if everything would be visible but it would give me a good idea. The rest isn't Going to be bad at all. Spread it all out yesterday

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[1stMerc]

Know what you mean. Would have been nice to have a list, before getting started.
Have pics, but not of the kind of angles you're probably looking for. I'll snap some in a bit.

[JBeezy]

Know what you mean. Would have been nice to have a list, before getting started.
Have pics, but not of the kind of angles you're probably looking for. I'll snap some in a bit.

That would be great. Just want to make sure the pulleys get in the correct place along with the correct bushings.

[JBeezy]

Here is what I have

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[1stMerc]

Missing some parts. That one bolt above stud can't tell whether it is bolt or stud.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/thumbs/JBreezyparts.jpg (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22983/title/jbreezyparts/cat/500)

Really no good angles to capture where and how they attach. Below is of the idler pulley upper left of your pic. You need the two bushings that go on either side of it.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG10111.jpg (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22985/title/img10111/cat/500)http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG10116.jpg (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22986/title/img10116/cat/500)

[JBeezy]

The top is a bolt. The bottom two are studs. The middle has a nut on it. Guess I need to check with Dom to see if he has the bushings. Any idea of what size they are? Wonder if ATI has some.
Thanks for the pics. I was afraid something like this would happen

[1stMerc]

Good you got the studs. Don't know the size of the bushings, but they are "top hat" style. Looking at pic again, the one on the left is the one for the existing Ford pulley. Did you get the extended crossover tube or the spacers for it?

[JBeezy]

Not sure. That's what I'm trying to find out. The manual doesn't show pics of the parts so.... Only have my stock crossover tube. Would be a breeze to install if I know I had all the parts.

[1stMerc]

When the kits were first assembled and sold the tube was redone with the proper extension and came with the kit. When I got my take off DR provided the spacers to raise the tube high enough for clearance.

Not finding them on the internet. Not sure of correct name to search for.

[JBeezy]

Thanks for all your help. Maybe someone will chime in and provide some info. I'm wondering if its possible to just buy an install kit of some sort???? I'm willing to buy one.

[1stMerc]

The first part of this post has a list of parts that came with kit. It is for P1sc, but install is the same.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-17808.html

Original kit as shipped
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/pccompletekit.jpg

This link has all the old Procharger threads
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/archive/index.php/f-59.html

[JBeezy]

The first link is good. The second talks about traction control. It would be awesome if I could contact that guy and get all the install hardware or the specs on them. It's making me sick to think that I won't be able to install this in two weeks due to lack of parts, especially after all the money I've spent. Thanks again 1stmerc

[J-MAN]

The first link is good. The second talks about traction control. It would be awesome if I could contact that guy and get all the install hardware or the specs on them. It's making me sick to think that I won't be able to install this in two weeks due to lack of parts, especially after all the money I've spent. Thanks again 1stmerc


Didn't you buy a complete kit minus the fuel pump?

[JBeezy]

Purchased it from motorhead350. Just missing a few parts. Few spacers I believe.

[1stMerc]

Second link

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/pccompletekit.jpg

[JBeezy]

Pump and Xcal3 arrived today

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[MOTOWN]

Excellent choice!

[JBeezy]

Would these be the ones I'm missing? 1stMerc, get in here. :-)

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[1stMerc]

Would these be the ones I'm missing? 1stMerc, get in here. :-)

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Those look about right, tho the holes look a little big. May be the angle or effects of camera. The allen head bolt is the one that has to pass thru them to that offset bracket off the lower alternator mount.

[lji372]

Those look about right, tho the holes look a little big. May be the angle or effects of camera. The allen head bolt is the one that has to pass thru them to that offset bracket off the lower alternator mount.

They were made to the sample provided.
Let me know if there is a problem ;)

[1stMerc]

They were made to the sample provided.
Let me know if there is a problem ;)

Cool, thanks for chiming in.
That's right you have Tom's D1SC M (congrats). If you got it off the same pulley that will end up sitting by the water pump when done, they should be correct. It's been a looooooong time since I've seen that car don't remember how that Pro was mounted.

We'll get him up and running. :D

[JBeezy]

I think I have it figured out now with you alls help. The two smaller bushings that I posted a few minutes ago are to be installed with the small idler in my parts pic that is attached at the altenater ear via the offset bracket and the allen head bolt(correction). The thicker idler bushing is to go where the factory idler is on the 8mm stud that replaces the factory bolt. The larger idler in my parts pic doesnt appear to be used. I'm only adding 1 pulley from my parts pic and thats the smaller one.

[1stMerc]

That is correct. It is tricky with that bolt and ear. The bolt goes a wee bit long, so the ear has to sit off at a bit of and angle for clearance (you'll see). Spot on with the other bushing.

The other pulley, when you find a way to install it should look like this. I'm thinking that's what the long bushing is for.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/thumbs/PulleyBracket2.jpg (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22999/title/pulleybracket2/cat/500)

Once done you can shrink this down to size, print it out, laminate it and attach it on the radiator cover for reference.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Belt_Routing.png (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22998/title/belt-routing/cat/500)

[lji372]

I think I have it figured out now with you alls help. The two smaller bushings that I posted a few minutes ago are to be installed with the small idler in my parts pic that is attached at the altenater ear via the offset bracket and the allen head bolt(correction). The thicker idler bushing is to go where the factory idler is on the 8mm stud that replaces the factory bolt. The larger idler in my parts pic doesnt appear to be used. I'm only adding 1 pulley from my parts pic and thats the smaller one.

I believe the larger idler is one that was recommended (to me by zack) to be added between the alternator and the power steering. He told me this would prevent the belt from being destroyed.
As mine was first time down the track and again on the dyno and again last weekend. Ask me if I'm adding it this time. Oh yeah, zack is a butthead :D

[JBeezy]

I see that now in the diagram and pic 1stMerc posted. Can't tell what type of bracket that it is bolted to

lji372, what type of bracket are you going to run on the opposite side of the water pump for that pulley

1stMerc, do you have a better pic of that?

[1stMerc]

Did you get the offset adapter for the temp sensor on the left leg of the crossover tube?

[lji372]

I see that now in the diagram and pic 1stMerc posted. Can't tell what type of bracket that it is bolted to

I believe it goes right into the timing cover.

Oh and polish that crap before the install. You won't want to pull it apart afterward :lol:

And to make it all look good top it off with an engraved cot plug :D

And thank you, yes I bought toms car (money pit) lmao!!!

[1stMerc]

I see that now in the diagram and pic 1stMerc posted. Can't tell what type of bracket that it is bolted to

That is a custom bracket made my another member that was here. Haven't seen him post in a while.

[JBeezy]

Did you get the offset adapter for the temp sensor on the left leg of the crossover tube?

I need a pic of it. Maybe?

[1stMerc]

I believe it goes right into the timing cover.

Oh and polish that crap before the install. You won't want to pull it apart afterward :lol:

And to make it all look good top it off with an engraved cot plug :D

And thank you, yes I bought toms car (money pit) lmao!!!

Ditto.


(Money pit) LOL you got seriously lucky all the hard work has done. You get to tweak and go around blowing the doors of unsuspecting victims :D

[lji372]

If there is a custom bracket needed I know nothing about it. I'll have to make it I guess if it's necessary. :/ last belt fling has cost me plenty :mad:

[lji372]

Ditto.


(Money pit) LOL you got seriously lucky all the hard work has done. You get to tweak and go around blowing the doors of unsuspecting victims :D

Thanks for making me smile!! :D

[JBeezy]

I just looked back at a pic of this installed on Doms car and he doesn't have a bracket. The pulley is just there bolted by itself. I'm posting from my phone via tapatalk and it will not let me post a pic for some reason.

[JBeezy]

Here's the pic. Notice the pulley. It all makes sense now. I can't thank you all enough. Just hope I don't run into any problems.

On another note. I'm removing the smaller pulley that's on the blower now and want to place the 8-10 psi pulley on it. I have the 3.60 pulley in which I believe is the 10-12 psi pulley

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[lji372]

Zack told me it bolts right into the timing cover :dunno: haven't installed it yet.

[1stMerc]

If there is a custom bracket needed I know nothing about it. I'll have to make it I guess if it's necessary. :/ last belt fling has cost me plenty :mad:

Better pic of bracket. It is not necessary to be custom, but whatever works to get that pulley on and functional. This was just an extra one he didn't have need of.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/PulleyBracket1.jpg (javascript:;)

[1stMerc]

Here's the pic. Notice the pulley. It all makes sense now. I can't thank you all enough. Just hope I don't run into any problems.

On another note. I'm removing the smaller pulley that's on the blower now and want to place the 8-10 psi pulley on it. I have the 3.60 pulley in which I believe is the 10-12 psi pulley

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You won't have, but even if you do, we're here for ya. :D

Are you still running the stock motor?

[JBeezy]

Thanks 1stMerc. Your help is greatly appreciated

[JBeezy]

You won't have, but even if you do, we're here for ya. :D

Are you still running the stock motor?

Yes. A 49k mile stock motor

[JBeezy]

Received my musclemerc rear cooling mod kit today

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[lji372]

Received my musclemerc rear cooling mod kit today

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Did you get the parts I sent yet?

[JBeezy]

Yessir! Got them today. They look good! Thanks again!! I owe thanks to Dom as well for contacting you about them.

All I need to figure out now if I'm going to need a temp sensor adaptor and to modify my COT. I'll find out the hard way I guess. Can't wait to get started

Can anyone post some pics of how their intercooler is mounted? Please!!

[lji372]

Yessir! Got them today. They look good!

All I need to figure out now if I'm going to need a temp sensor adaptor and to modify my COT. I'll find out the hard way I guess. Can't wait to get started

If Dom had a modified cot why don't you swap?

[JBeezy]

He said his wasn't modified. As 1stmerc was saying he think I need a modified COT and the adapter for the temp sensor. Wondering if there is a difference between the housing of the P1 and the D1

[1stMerc]

I know with my P1SC unit the cot as stock sits to low for clearance of the head unit. Fortunately DR had sent the spacer\extension\adapter to raise it. Looking at the pic Dom posted in another thread, it looks like The D1SC would have the same clearance issue if the cot were stock. The ones that came with the original kits were modified to provide that clearance. the issue would then be clearance for the temp sensor which in stock location prevent the head unit from going on.

[1stMerc]

If Dom had a modified cot why don't you swap?

When you get a chance can you look at the legs of cot and see if it has the adapters or has been modified for head clearance. Might be difficult to discern...if the cot was powder coated afterwards.

[JBeezy]

Here is a pic of mine over 2 years ago. Nothing has changed. Maybe a lot cleaner

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[JBeezy]

Anyone know the size of the 90* temp sensor adapter needed so the temp sensor won't hit the head unit of the procharger?

[1 Bad Merc]

Is it installed yet? :)

[JBeezy]

No. We are starting this weekend. Maybe Friday. Cleaning up and repainting the piping.

Just trying to be proactive. I keep looking at pics of motorheads engine and mine at it looks like his COT was modified after all. He has spacers on top of his altenater for the COT mounts as well. Mine doesn't.

Is it possible to buy a modified COT just in case? If I don't need it I will sale it.

Pic of his

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[JBeezy]

Update: so far I have installed the Aeromotive 340 fuel pump, and today me and my buddy installed a MuscleMerc rear cooling mod kit using Seige's hose routing method. Not a bad job at all. We also installed the 60# injectors while the intake was off.

Tomorrow we plan on mounting the head unit bracket.

I need some pics of where everyone is mounting there intercooler. 1stMerc sent me a pic of his, but I'd like to mount it higher in the grill. If its possible and won't interfere with airflow to the radiator.

[lji372]

Update: so far I have installed the Aeromotive 340 fuel pump, and today me and my buddy installed a MuscleMerc rear cooling mod kit using Seige's hose routing method. Not a bad job at all. We also installed the 60# injectors while the intake was off.

Tomorrow we plan on mounting the head unit bracket.

I need some pics of where everyone is mounting there intercooler. 1stMerc sent me a pic of his, but I'd like to mount it higher in the grill. If its possible and won't interfere with airflow to the radiator.

Mine is below on an angle with a little shroud in front of it to force the air up through it.

[JBeezy]

A pic would be greatly appreciated.

[lji372]

A pic would be greatly appreciated.

The things I do for lust:shake:

You want pics tonight in the dark or tomorrow in the light?

[JBeezy]

Both, but beggars can't be choosie

I see you got your idler/tensioner installed as well. Let's see it

[lji372]

Damn. My teenager are out there. They're gonna think I'm gay taking pics tonight.
I guess I'm assuming they don't already know. :lol:

[JBeezy]

Damn. My teenager are out there. They're gonna think I'm gay taking pics tonight.
I guess I'm assuming they don't already know. :lol:

Too funny.

I also was trying to figure where the tensioner pulley goes on the driver side timing cover. Not really where it goes but what's used to space it out. I may have the spacer as well. Just not sure. I'm determined to get this thing installed

[lji372]

Since I'm in the garage drinking Xmas in a cup alone. (The teenagers won't let me join them, plus that would be creepy)
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I shot these
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And the extra idler pulley, goes here
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I hope you got the long azz m8 bolt with the kit

My new found bromance zack hooked me up with a pulley and gave me the dimensions for the stand
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Of coarse I made a couple extra :D

Oh, here's the before added pully pic
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Now go figure the rest out
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:laugh:

[JBeezy]

Thanks a lot. I'm not sure if I have that spacer. I will have to look tomorrow. If not I may need you to sale me one of the four you have there. :-). Plus the bolt if you have that as well.

I definitely don't have that scoop. Looks like its not a lot of clearance from it to the ground either.

[1stMerc]

Tomorrow we plan on mounting the head unit bracket.



It's easier to mount the bracket and head as a unit. It's no fun mounting it to the bracket after it's on the car.


Here's a pic of someone else intercooler mounted.

[JBeezy]

1stMerc. I have those brackets that's used in that pic. I'm not sure how Dom had the intercooler mounted.

[1stMerc]

Thanks a lot. I'm not sure if I have that spacer. I will have to look tomorrow. If not I may need you to sale me one of the four you have there. :-). Plus the bolt if you have that as well.

I definitely don't have that scoop. Looks like its not a lot of clearance from it to the ground either.

I believe you have that spacer/standoff. It was the longer one in the pic. Looking at the pic again, you have the bolt as well.

[JBeezy]

Maybe so. I didn't look back at those pics and haven't looked in that box in a week at least. We knocked that cooling mod out today. I'm almost sure I have everything to mount the head unit. Now I'm focusing on the intercooler.

[1stMerc]

Since I'm in the garage drinking Xmas in a cup alone. (The teenagers won't let me join them, plus that would be creepy)
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I shot these
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And the extra idler pulley, goes here
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I hope you got the long azz m8 bolt with the kit

My new found bromance zack hooked me up with a pulley and gave me the dimensions for the stand
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Of coarse I made a couple extra :D

Oh, here's the before added pully pic
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Now go figure the rest out
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:laugh:

Like that scoop. Just didn't want my piping and sleeves sitting outside the car.

[1stMerc]

Maybe so. I didn't look back at those pics and haven't looked in that box in a week at least. We knocked that cooling mod out today. I'm almost sure I have everything to mount the head unit. Now I'm focusing on the intercooler.


Intercooler and piping is the most thinking part of the install.

Good luck tomorrow.

[lji372]

You sir are correct!
Putting it on a trailer is always fun!

That bushing fits into the extra idler pulley. 17mm id on the pulley.
I went to my local mechanic and dug through his junk box for the bolt :D

It needs to be 37-38 mm longer than the one you take out (about 1 1/2 inch)

[lji372]

You could always ask Dom where it was installed.

[MOTOWN]

Since I'm in the garage drinking Xmas in a cup alone. (The teenagers won't let me join them, plus that would be creepy)
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I shot these
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And the extra idler pulley, goes here
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I hope you got the long azz m8 bolt with the kit

My new found bromance zack hooked me up with a pulley and gave me the dimensions for the stand
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Of coarse I made a couple extra :D

Oh, here's the before added pully pic
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Now go figure the rest out
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:laugh:

I need one of those pulley stands!:rolleyes:

[JBeezy]

You could always ask Dom where it was installed.

I did, but maybe he missed that one as I asked so many different questions. I have probably got on his nerves, but he's been very patient with me, and I appreciate that.

Thanks for that bolt info. lji372

[lji372]

I did, but maybe he missed that one as I asked so many different questions. I have probably got on his nerves, but he's been very patient with me, and I appreciate that.

Thanks for that bolt info. lji372


Thank zack, I'm just the middle man :D

[JBeezy]

Thank zack, I'm just the middle man :D

What pulley in the S/C are you running and belt size?

[lji372]

What pulley in the S/C are you running and belt size?


Size I do not know boost, I believe 18lbs from a bad drinking memory.
I'll get the belt size tomorrow

[JoeBoomz]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/08/pyzesypy.jpg

This is the bottom of mine. On the top there is one bracket that mounts and shares the bolt with the left hood latch bolt.

[lji372]

If I had a choice mine would be like ^^^^^^^^that:beer:

[MOTOWN]

Here is a couple pics of my Intercooler install

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af324/sims36/20120727_122819.jpg

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af324/sims36/20120727_122835.jpg

[1stMerc]

If I had a choice mine would be like ^^^^^^^^that:beer:

Explain...you can always redo the intercooler. That is if you're willing to do some cutting on some of the plastic to reroute the pipes.

[Limited360]

If I had a choice mine would be like ^^^^^^^^that:beer:

I'd def remount it if I were you . I don't like the lower scoop setup... Just asking to suck up a bird :)

[JBeezy]

I think I'd like to mount mine straight up, but at the lowest point in the grille. Simply because I don't think I have enough piping to mount it higher. This is my first intercooler setup, but I'd think the less bends the better

[justbob]

IIRC the temp sensors are 3/8" IP. Just get creative in the plumbing isle at the hardware store. :thumbsup:


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"

[lji372]

Explain...you can always redo the intercooler. That is if you're willing to do some cutting on some of the plastic to reroute the pipes.

Exactly, at this point I am not going to reinvent the wheel. Also if I were to make changes I would get cai out of the engine bay even if that meant mounting the battery in the trunk to route it behind the passenger fog light.

So many little things I could change but at his point I just want to drive it:beer:

Maybe next year:lol:

[JBeezy]

IIRC the temp sensors are 3/8" IP. Just get creative in the plumbing isle at the hardware store. :thumbsup:


Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.

Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"

Thanks justbob. Dom and I are going to swap. His passenger side temp sensor is located up top near the heater feed output on the COT.

[JBeezy]

Exactly, at this point I am not going to reinvent the wheel. Also if I were to make changes I would get cai out of the engine bay even if that meant mounting the battery in the trunk to route it behind the passenger fog light.

So many little things I could change but at his point I just want to drive it:beer:

Maybe next year:lol:

Understood. I want to replace all my piping with aluminum, but for now I just want it running. I cleaned all the paint off the piping. Here's a pic of the throttle body piece. It's almost completely clean. Trying to decide if I want to keep it this way or repaint it.

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[lji372]

Understood. I want to replace all my piping with aluminum, but for now I just want it running. I cleaned all the paint off the piping. Here's a pic of the throttle body piece. It's almost completely clean. Trying to decide if I want to keep it this way or repaint it.

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Is that aluminum???

[JBeezy]

Yessir. Didn't know it until I stripped it down

[Limited360]

I think I'd like to mount mine straight up, but at the lowest point in the grille. Simply because I don't think I have enough piping to mount it higher. This is my first intercooler setup, but I'd think the less bends the better

Do it at the lowest point In grille. I like it there, go with a black coated one so it's hidden, don't want everyone to know the power is there!!

[JBeezy]

Do it at the lowest point In grille. I like it there, go with a black coated one so it's hidden, don't want everyone to know the power is there!!

One side of it is already black. It may be a little hard to hide the power with that slight whistle coming from the engine bay. I don't think it will be as loud as my S trim was but a video I saw on YouTube, it was pretty noticeable.

[lji372]

That's what I thought. I think I'm going to polish that today, I'll do some before and after pics

[Limited360]

One side of it is already black. It may be a little hard to hide the power with that slight whistle coming from the engine bay. I don't think it will be as loud as my S trim was but a video I saw on YouTube, it was pretty noticeable.

Very true indeed... I always tell people it's just a vacuum leak ;)

[JBeezy]

Random thought. Will I be able to retain my aluminum diamond plate air dam? I'm thinking no, but hopefully you all can tell me differently. I love the look of it.

[JBeezy]

[QUOTE=lji372;1329335]Since I'm in the garage drinking Xmas in a cup alone. (The teenagers won't let me join them, plus that would be creepy)
35752

I shot these
35753
35754
35755

And the extra idler pulley, goes here
35756
I hope you got the long azz m8 bolt with the kit

My new found bromance zack hooked me up with a pulley and gave me the dimensions for the stand
35757
Of coarse I made a couple extra :D

Oh, here's the before added pully pic
35758

What type of waterpump pulley is that? My stock WP pulley is hitting the idler as shown below.

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On another note, how the heck do you go about putting a belt on this thing. Lol! It's tight in there

[lji372]

That's the pulley that was on there when I bought it.

Getting the belt on, well that's a pain in the ***

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[JBeezy]

I see what's going to have to happen to get the belt on. I just need to figure out the size.

I took the 3.20 SC pulley off and put the 3.60 pulley on.

[JBeezy]

That's the pulley that was on there when I bought it.

Getting the belt on, well that's a pain in the ***

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So you have a 8 rib setup?

[1stMerc]

I see what's going to have to happen to get the belt on. I just need to figure out the size.

I took the 3.20 SC pulley off and put the 3.60 pulley on.

The belt size I sent you is the correct one for the 3.60 pulley.
I broke the lower right alternator bolt trying to put on the belt that came with the kit.

[JBeezy]

Ok. Thanks. I will have to look back on my computer since I can't look back that far in the PM's on my phone

[JBeezy]

Got it. 109". Thanks 1stMerc

[1stMerc]

I think I'd like to mount mine straight up, but at the lowest point in the grille. Simply because I don't think I have enough piping to mount it higher. This is my first intercooler setup, but I'd think the less bends the better

That is why mine is mounted the way it is. Seeing the way others were mounted in the early days i didn't want any of the piping exposed and didn't want all that piping. Ended up not using 3 metals and three sleeves. Also, had to get creative with some judicious cutting, none of it metal.

[1stMerc]

Random thought. Will I be able to retain my aluminum diamond plate air dam? I'm thinking no, but hopefully you all can tell me differently. I love the look of it.

If it's in the stock position you will be able to. You may have to do some tweaking hole wise.

[JBeezy]

Headunit mounted. We had my old belt in there trying to see how we were actually going to install the new belt. Took pic before I removed the belt. Everything seems to line up. Going to pick up a belt tomorrow.

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[sailsmen]

Best belt is a Gates Fleet Runner, a/k/a Green Stripe if they have it in the applicable size.

[lji372]

Make sure you polish before you assemble ;)

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[JBeezy]

Make sure you polish before you assemble ;)

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Will be hand rubbed, but not that pretty. Can't decide what to do with the other pipes that will be seen

[lji372]

I Spent waaaay too much time on it. But I gotta start somewhere:D


Other steel tubes don't polish up well but look better than raw or painted IMHO

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[JBeezy]

Absolutely beautiful. I'm jealous.

[JBeezy]

Just picked up some NGK-TR6 plugs and 109.21" gates belt

[JBeezy]

Is it possible that anyone knows the part# for this hose?

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[1stMerc]

Well, is it soup yet???

[JBeezy]

Well, is it soup yet???

Waiting on Dom to send me his COT and lji372 is making me a new alternator offset bracket. Then I should be good to go. We got all the plumbing figured out and where we are mounting the intercooler.

[lji372]

waiting on me?? i just got the sample!! :lol:

new one will go out tomorrow ;)

[Marauderjack]

I Spent waaaay too much time on it. But I gotta start somewhere:D


Other steel tubes don't polish up well but look better than raw or painted IMHO

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Will your hood close with that coolant plug in the COT??:confused:

Mine has put a hole in the hood insulation with the OEM "Low Plug" in it!!:argue:

[JBeezy]

waiting on me?? i just got the sample!! :lol:

new one will go out tomorrow ;)

Lol! I didn't mean it like that. Just saying that's where I stand, and I appreciate you making that for me as well.

[lji372]

Yes sir!!!! :D

[JBeezy]

Post a pic of that beauty when you finish. Another opportunity for you to show off that fantastic work.

[JBeezy]

I'll post it for you. Awesome work!! Thanks again lji372

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[JBeezy]

Procharger is on, intercooler is mounted. COT installed as well. Plumbing from the intercooler routed. Just working on the inlet to the intercooler.

Have to figure out what to do about the Power steering reservoir. I guess it's time to send the xcal3 to Marty.

Intercooler pic

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[JBeezy]

Deleted! Dumb question

[JBeezy]

3 questions:

1.) what's a good place to t-off of for the blow off valve and boost gauge

2.). What type of coolant do I need to refill with?

3.). Anything special I need to know and or check before I start it up?

Plugs are in gapped at .032. Used TR6's. Tune loaded that Marty sent me. All is left to do is splice in the pig tail to the meter harness, t off for the blow off valve, and fill with coolant. Thanks in advance

[1stMerc]

You can use any coolant safe for aluminum. If you can, i'd go with the one that came in our engines originally.
I teed off one of the small hoses at the egr valve for the boost gauage. Vacuum box for my bypass valve.
Nothing special for startup other than the usual. Leaks, abnormal noises, belt alignment.
You already got the tune, so fire that sucker up.

[JBeezy]

You can use any coolant safe for aluminum. If you can, i'd go with the one that came in our engines originally.
I teed off one of the small hoses at the egr valve for the boost gauage. Vacuum box for my bypass valve.
Nothing special for startup other than the usual. Leaks, abnormal noises, belt alignment.
You already got the tune, so fire that sucker up.

Yea. I used some of that GO5. Sounded good after it warmed up. Going to post a video when I upload it to YouTube.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/02/gydavy4e.jpg


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[JBeezy]

Got it. 109". Thanks 1stMerc
Just thought I'd post this here instead of starting a new topic. do you all think this belt work with the 4.0 pulley? Right now I have a 3.6 pulley on. If not, how much longer do you think I need to go? I think I have over an inch of tensioner travel left. Thanks in advance