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1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 03:35 PM
Alright guys we are looking at putting together a bid for hosting Marauderville 12 in Chicago.
Chicago has never hosted a Marauderville event before and in conversations with different members we believe it is time for us to step up and put a bid together.
I know every one is extremely busy on the weekends so I am proposing we get together monday night -Oct. 7 and discuss how we can handle the bid. The more guys we have involved the better it will be for everyone.
I am thinking we could do something at a local bar/pub centrally located like maybe Fox's Pub in Oak Lawn on Cicero Avenue.Probably around 7:30 to 8pm.
It should not take us more then a couple of hours and we can watch the game and have a few brews to boot.
We would like to see who is interested and can make it so please post up.
It's time for WCM to step up and show the rest of the MM world how we do it - Chicago style!!!
PonyUP
09-30-2013, 03:46 PM
Good for you guys, if I can help with anything, let me know. Good Luck, Chicago would be an Awesome MV
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lji372
09-30-2013, 03:49 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo: DO IT!!!!!!
that would make an awesome MV:beer:
plus we can come to you to see your dads grand national since it's not running:eek:
:lol:
1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 04:03 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo: DO IT!!!!!!
that would make an awesome MV:beer:
plus we can come to you to see your dads grand national since it's running 10's now:eek:
:lol:
Ha Ha -Changed your quote :D
guspech750
09-30-2013, 04:27 PM
O'Tay. I'll be there.
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Mebot
09-30-2013, 04:54 PM
Chicago would be an awesome place to get my MV cherry popped. Good luck with your bid/proposal
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CWright
09-30-2013, 05:00 PM
Good for you guys, if I can help with anything, let me know. Good Luck, Chicago would be an Awesome MV
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+1^^^^ from me too!
TAKEDOWN
09-30-2013, 05:20 PM
When does our bid have to be in?
Shaijack
09-30-2013, 05:33 PM
Ya,Chicago I would go to that one.
1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 06:34 PM
When does our bid have to be in?
I was told bids need to be in by 12/1. I believe the process is then to review the bids and then choose which one is the best for the upcoming season.
1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 06:35 PM
Chicago would be an awesome place to get my MV cherry popped. Good luck with your bid/proposal
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Thanks -we would love to have you guys come in and party with us! :banana2:
TooManyFords
09-30-2013, 06:47 PM
Make sure you include a "Dodge the Bullets Poker Run!"
:D
champ1173
09-30-2013, 06:51 PM
I know where Fox's pub is. Can I come an play in your Marauder games?
champ1173
09-30-2013, 06:53 PM
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y459/champ1173/046_zps5172de25.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/champ1173/media/046_zps5172de25.jpg.html)
1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 07:06 PM
I know where Fox's pub is. Can I come an play in your Marauder games?
No problem -would love to have you! :banana2:
1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 07:07 PM
Make sure you include a "Dodge the Bullets Poker Run!"
:D
Nice ...will your car be running by then:eek:
Just teasing John -we will be having some type of fun events -maybe a paintball war!!!!!!!
guspech750
09-30-2013, 07:11 PM
Are we there yet?
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champ1173
09-30-2013, 07:13 PM
Awesome! Can't wait to meet some other Marauder enthusiasts.
lji372
09-30-2013, 07:14 PM
Heck if your not selected we'll come party with you guys anyway:bows:
guspech750
09-30-2013, 07:14 PM
Heck if your not selected we'll come party with you guys anyway:bows:
Word dog.
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1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 07:25 PM
Heck if your not selected we'll come party with you guys anyway:bows:
Wait ...wait...twist my arm.....okay:D
1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 07:27 PM
Awesome! Can't wait to meet some other Marauder enthusiasts.
Welcome aboard the crazy train! :beer:
You do realize after meeting us you will be working on your first marauder mod that weekend!
PonyUP
09-30-2013, 07:28 PM
Heck if your not selected we'll come party with you guys anyway:bows:
Yup yup, that's the event I would attend, official or not. Blue be making that trip
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1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 07:34 PM
Yup yup, that's the event I would attend, official or not. Blue be making that trip
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Awesome Brother -cant wait! You know we will be sneaking in a White Castle run or two that weekend!!!! :woohoo:
lji372
09-30-2013, 07:37 PM
Awesome Brother -cant wait! You know we will be sneaking in a White Castle run or two that weekend!!!! :woohoo:
Great:shake:
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PonyUP
09-30-2013, 07:39 PM
Awesome Brother -cant wait! You know we will be sneaking in a White Castle run or two that weekend!!!! :woohoo:
You better prep the city for an evacuation then. This is the only Marauder event I plan on attending, so there will most definitely be a gas cloud
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1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 07:48 PM
On the above note -here we go : http://youtu.be/AKNU2ocLxMY
yjmud
09-30-2013, 08:10 PM
I should be able to make it
1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 08:13 PM
I should be able to make it
Yeah Brother!!!!!!!! :beer:
1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 08:17 PM
I just heard from Z....I mean, um "Becky" -she will be their!!!!! :party:
1 Bad Merc
09-30-2013, 08:36 PM
+1^^^^ from me too!
Awesome Chris -would love to see your beast run in some good air!!! :bows:
ChiTownMaraud3r
09-30-2013, 09:29 PM
I like this thread already. :D
WPG_Merc
09-30-2013, 11:00 PM
I would love to go to a Chicago MV ,Atlanta was fun.:banana2:
:canada: If you allow Canadians.
VMARAUDER
10-01-2013, 06:48 AM
MVII here...I always hoped for that since I got my Marauder.
I will be at the Fox Pub...guess it is not too far from Krauses on 95th west of Cicero
1 Bad Merc
10-01-2013, 08:55 AM
I would love to go to a Chicago MV ,Atlanta was fun.:banana2:
:canada: If you allow Canadians.
Okay -we can tolerate Canadians like "John Candy /Rush" but you must have some kind of talent.......
Oh I forgot you own a Marauder and actually drive it all over and do awesome burnouts at the dragstrip .......Welcome Brother!!!!!!:beer:
1 Bad Merc
10-01-2013, 08:56 AM
MVII here...I always hoped for that since I got my Marauder.
I will be at the Fox Pub...guess it is not too far from Krauses on 95th west of Cicero
That is great-Welcome aboard!!!!!! :banana:
1 Bad Merc
10-01-2013, 08:59 AM
I like this thread already. :D
Hop on board the train-we need everyone! This is going to be Epic :bows:
Haggis
10-01-2013, 09:05 AM
Do you have the hotel information yet?
1 Bad Merc
10-01-2013, 09:06 AM
Do you have the hotel information yet?
Nice ..........:P
1 Bad Merc
10-01-2013, 09:15 AM
For some reason I am sitting here thinking about our MM club and the great time we would all have in Chicago for a Marauderville and one song keeps popping up in my head -Enjoy
http://youtu.be/xuR0DqbQGN8 :)
1 Bad Merc
10-01-2013, 10:44 AM
Okay -just so everyone knows some of us grew up on the southside of Chicago and being Irish it is a fun and great place during the year and especially during St. Patricks day.
This is just a little instructional video on how to be Irish in Chicago!
http://youtu.be/7cbBJpBMgwE
1 Bad Merc
10-01-2013, 10:49 AM
For everyone who ever wondered why the Chicago river is Green on St. Patricks day!
http://youtu.be/XhwQcKodrzg
Baaad GN
10-01-2013, 11:26 AM
Okay guy's we will come up with many idea's of things to do but we will also accept any idea's from the pea nut galley! Will we accept your idea's? Maybe and Maybe not!
We heard maybe Chicago might not get the okay! Really!!! How can that happen? So plan on it!!!!!!
Curless
10-01-2013, 11:30 AM
Brad (1 Bad Merc) you have a message....CALL ME! 616-988-1315
Haggis
10-01-2013, 11:31 AM
Brad (1 Bad Merc) you have a message....CALL ME! 616-988-1315
BHAAAAWAAAAAA!!!!! I have your phone number now. :lol:
Baaad GN
10-01-2013, 11:39 AM
Geeeeeeez this does not give me much time to figure out what nuts and bolts go where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh well this is gonna be a hard time line to meet so I'm gonna have to hang around the GM guy's for a couple months! :-(
lji372
10-01-2013, 11:49 AM
BHAAAAWAAAAAA!!!!! I have your phone number now. :lol:
you mean he kept his shop number a secret:lol:
:shake::shake:
hey brad,
is that GN running yet??:eek:................. :lol:
1 Bad Merc
10-01-2013, 04:16 PM
Okay as you have probably noticed by now that after being a member on here for umpteen years I have finally figured out how to post youtube links!!!!!!!!! ;)
To keep our ball rolling the following is a short snippet of Chicago history for your viewing pleasure :):director:
http://youtu.be/a3Q3wwRAGiw
Roadwarrior
10-01-2013, 04:24 PM
If Chicago gets MVXII, this should be on a list of road trip tunes for anyone who's heading to the Windy City for this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0zyuc_2UVg
RubberCtyRauder
10-01-2013, 04:42 PM
For a good boost call CARS.
Curless
10-01-2013, 05:24 PM
For a good boost call CARS.
LMAO!!!!!!!!:bows::beer::eek:: burnout:
guspech750
10-01-2013, 07:48 PM
I'm planning MV13 in Cuba.
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IwantmyMMnow!
10-01-2013, 07:53 PM
I'm planning MV13 in Cuba.
Miami, eh? :D
It would be awesome if MV12 is in Chicago....might have to make it an all-week extravaganza as there's lots to do in the Chicagoland area.
Any thoughts about turning Midway into our own personal dragstrip? ;)
lji372
10-01-2013, 07:59 PM
For a good boost call CARGS.
Fixed!!!!!!! :laugh:
Haggis
10-02-2013, 04:14 AM
Do you have an itinerary yet?
guspech750
10-02-2013, 05:50 AM
Do you have an itinerary yet?
It's in my pants.
True story bro.
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RubberCtyRauder
10-02-2013, 06:02 AM
I'm planning MV13 in Cuba.
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DTR + 4.10's + Eaton swap = Wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom
Then DOOM could honestly say in his Tony Montana voice "say hello to my little friend" :lol:
Haggis
10-02-2013, 06:27 AM
It's in my pants.
True story bro.
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I said 'Itinerary' not 'Little Harry'.
PonyUP
10-02-2013, 06:32 AM
Then DOOM could honestly say in his Tony Montana voice "say hello to my little friend" :lol:
My understanding is that Dooms little friend is not so little. I heard there was talk of an eclipse, turns out Doom just saw a midget and his friend blocked the sun
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Marauder_Santa
10-02-2013, 07:47 AM
What's the drive time from Atlanta to Chicago?
Comin' in Hot
10-02-2013, 07:54 AM
It's in my pants.
True story bro.
I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
Comin' in Hot
10-02-2013, 07:56 AM
I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
I got so excited I missed an exclamation point!
DWSTANG67
10-02-2013, 08:25 AM
If Chicago gets MVXII, this should be on a list of road trip tunes for anyone who's heading to the Windy City for this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0zyuc_2UVg
This would be a good theme for a Chicago Marauderville everyone dressed as the blues brothers.
1 Bad Merc
10-02-2013, 10:09 AM
What's the drive time from Atlanta to Chicago?
Drive time is around 11 hours -easy peasy right up i-65 :) It actually was not that bad of a drive -alot of cool scenery to look at and we stopped a couple of times.
1 Bad Merc
10-02-2013, 10:09 AM
I got so excited I missed an exclamation point!
I love it when you stutter!:burnout:
1 Bad Merc
10-02-2013, 10:10 AM
This would be a good theme for a Chicago Marauderville everyone dressed as the blues brothers.
Were thinkin it brother.:banana2:
1 Bad Merc
10-02-2013, 10:11 AM
Do you have an itinerary yet?
If you never trusted anyone in your life trust me on this.......it will be epic!!!!!!!
:party:
1 Bad Merc
10-02-2013, 10:13 AM
Here's another one to get your Chicago On!!!!!
http://youtu.be/Ooq3JbWbdjk
1 Bad Merc
10-02-2013, 10:18 AM
What's the drive time from Atlanta to Chicago?
Heres another link that will tell you more about the drive time to Chicago. Check it out :D
http://youtu.be/YHa_jqxnn4o
1 Bad Merc
10-02-2013, 10:24 AM
When..... not if....... you come to Chicago you got to watch out for these guys! One bad word so NWS.
http://youtu.be/t101rO7WuAM
lji372
10-02-2013, 10:58 AM
It's in my pants.
True story bro.
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DTR + 4.10's + Eaton swap = Wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom
i'm in:banana2:
:eek:wait!! what????:confused:
tbone
10-02-2013, 11:23 AM
I did not see this thread before now. I would be happy to help in this, but Monday's I work until 9 pm. My work hours are the worst.
1 Bad Merc
10-02-2013, 11:26 AM
I did not see this thread before now. I would be happy to help in this, but Monday's I work until 9 pm. My work hours are the worst.
No worries about not making it brother -hope we can count on you to do something if we need it :)
Comin' in Hot
10-02-2013, 11:33 AM
I'm here for the pants party.
Chi Stallion
10-02-2013, 11:43 AM
Marauderville couldn't pick a better place but Chicago. I've never been to MV but I know the city of Chicago and metro area have a lot of hardcore Marauder enthusiast and a lot of MM owners that never been on the forum. This city is a great candidate for the MM family to set up show. The Windy City Marauders boys will make sure you guys have a real good time.
1 Bad Merc
10-02-2013, 12:14 PM
Okay -this is for my boy Sexy Rexy!!!!!!!! We still like you even though you are a Cheesehead :help:
http://youtu.be/XpzyEfzMWH8u
1 Bad Merc
10-02-2013, 01:07 PM
Everyone knows we are "Da Bears Fans" !!!!!
http://youtu.be/p8JAiuuBCRo
TooManyFords
10-02-2013, 01:14 PM
Might be able to arrange a Dyno Day at Finish Line Performance in Naperville. That's where I have my car tuned.
1 Bad Merc
10-02-2013, 01:24 PM
Might be able to arrange a Dyno Day at Finish Line Performance in Naperville. That's where I have my car tuned.
Great suggestion -will bring it up monday. :banana2:
1 Bad Merc
10-02-2013, 11:40 PM
Alright still working on a head count for the meeting monday. Anyone else making it that has not posted up yet? Let me know asap.
Haggis
10-03-2013, 04:18 AM
Alright still working on a head count for the meeting monday. Anyone else making it that has not posted up yet? Let me know asap.
I will not be able to make it on Monday, Brad. Due to it being a work night, maybe next time.
Marauder_Santa
10-03-2013, 07:40 AM
Heres another link that will tell you more about the drive time to Chicago. Check it out :D
http://youtu.be/YHa_jqxnn4o
Thanks! Is the itentiary firm yet? :beer:
guspech750
10-03-2013, 07:50 AM
Alright still working on a head count for the meeting monday. Anyone else making it that has not posted up yet? Let me know asap.
Hey butthole. You still never told me where this place is. North or South of 95th street??
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Baaad GN
10-03-2013, 08:54 AM
I don't know Brad, the amount of time given to get bid in does not leave a lot of time to set it up, less than a month, maybe you should do for following year.
You have almost two months! Its October now and then comes November. Must need a :beatnik: to get that old mind back on track! :flamer:
PonyUP
10-03-2013, 09:20 AM
I don't know Brad, the amount of time given to get bid in does not leave a lot of time to set it up, less than a month, maybe you should do for following year.
We put ours together over lunch pretty much. You don't need to have everything nailed down, just a good idea of what you want to do, and plan B events just in case. Gather some info from those places, and submit. Plus visit the hotel before submission, do a site visit and get quote on room rates
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MM03MOK
10-03-2013, 09:50 AM
Hey butthole. You still never told me where this place is. North or South of 95th street??
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North, towards Midway. West side of the street after the RR tracks. :D
We put ours together over lunch pretty much. You don't need to have everything nailed down, just a good idea of what you want to do, and plan B events just in case. Gather some info from those places, and submit. Plus visit the hotel before submission, do a site visit and get quote on room rates
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^^^ What Brad said! ^^^
License2Bill
10-03-2013, 10:58 AM
My best friend is a huge Blues Bros fan and even used to participate in a "tribute" of sorts before he and the other brother had a falling out. He happens to know a few people with '74 Monacos (the original Bluesmobile) in the Chicago area. Despite them not being Marauders, it would be cool to have at least one with us for part of the weekend for the sake of keeping with the "theme"
guspech750
10-03-2013, 12:21 PM
My best friend is a huge Blues Bros fan and even used to participate in a "tribute" of sorts before he and the other brother had a falling out. He happens to know a few people with '74 Monacos (the original Bluesmobile) in the Chicago area. Despite them not being Marauders, it would be cool to have at least one with us for part of the weekend for the sake of keeping with the "theme"
Chop chop and move here already will ya! :burnout:
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guspech750
10-03-2013, 12:37 PM
North, towards Midway. West side of the street after the RR tracks. :D
^^^ What Brad said! ^^^
Thank you Mary. :)
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located at 9240 S Cicero, Oak Lawn.....THIS CAN GET DONE FOR NEXT YEAR!!! See you there on Monday..........think laps at Chicagoland Speedway.....night time photo shoot with the Chicago skyline as the background....fastest 1/2 mile at Bults airstrip.....nice Hilton hotel next to the Tinley Park Convention Center for dinner.....got a band already lined up if anyone is interested in that......get your grey matter going with ideas so we don't sit around Foxes scratchin' our asses......:beer:
just called them and made a reservation in a semi private area and guessed a headcount of 10.....if everyone posts up whether they're coming, I can call Monday afternoon with a revised headcount so they're ready for us....it's a nice place.......:banana:
1 Bad Merc
10-03-2013, 01:59 PM
just called them and made a reservation in a semi private area and guessed a headcount of 10.....if everyone posts up whether they're coming, I can call Monday afternoon with a revised headcount so they're ready for us....it's a nice place.......:banana:
You guys are ahead of me already :) I was waiting till today for final head count as we dont want to be in a regular dining room. Thank you for making the reservation.
Hey can you bring my sticker to Fox's? thanks bro :beer:
in my excitement about bidding for next years Marauderville, I was thinking south side...my apologies to the guys who live north ...should be a lively discussion Monday night....the Hilton Hotel i'm thinking of is right off I80 at Harlem avenue...can do a lot of stuff downtown...boat ride on the Chicago river....cruise Lake Shore Drive....Navy Pier...where the hell do you park all the cars?.....can't wait for Monday.............:burnout:
1 Bad Merc
10-03-2013, 02:01 PM
located at 9240 S Cicero, Oak Lawn.....THIS CAN GET DONE FOR NEXT YEAR!!! See you there on Monday..........think laps at Chicagoland Speedway.....night time photo shoot with the Chicago skyline as the background....fastest 1/2 mile at Bults airstrip.....nice Hilton hotel next to the Tinley Park Convention Center for dinner.....got a band already lined up if anyone is interested in that......get your grey matter going with ideas so we don't sit around Foxes scratchin' our asses......:beer:
No worries -have an agenda and a bid package we can review (Thanks Brad!)
Only problem I see is their is soo much to do -have to really look at the options and drive times.
1 Bad Merc
10-03-2013, 02:02 PM
You have almost two months! Its October now and then comes November. Must need a :beatnik: to get that old mind back on track! :flamer:
A couple of cocktails and it will unstick :beer:
1 Bad Merc
10-03-2013, 02:03 PM
I will not be able to make it on Monday, Brad. Due to it being a work night, maybe next time.
You told me you would be their -your just like all the other people I have dated :bigcry:
1 Bad Merc
10-03-2013, 02:07 PM
Hey butthole. You still never told me where this place is. North or South of 95th street??
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Give a guy a chance will ya! Sheeezzzeee I have kids in football and other stuff going on brother and it's not even Friday yet.
I will make it up to you with your man hug later:P
1 Bad Merc
10-03-2013, 02:11 PM
My best friend is a huge Blues Bros fan and even used to participate in a "tribute" of sorts before he and the other brother had a falling out. He happens to know a few people with '74 Monacos (the original Bluesmobile) in the Chicago area. Despite them not being Marauders, it would be cool to have at least one with us for part of the weekend for the sake of keeping with the "theme"
That's cool brother-I am keeping a list of suggestions so will definitely bring that up at our meeting on monday! :beer:
Man I am getting old because I still remember when the cops still used those cars-most had the taxi-cab motors in them (318's) but you still found a few with the 440's:D
1 Bad Merc
10-03-2013, 02:42 PM
I don't know Brad, the amount of time given to get bid in does not leave a lot of time to set it up, less than a month, maybe you should do for following year.
Hey - dont think you are getting out of this one that easy........I will need your organizational and managerial skills to make this happen!!!!! :D
Marauderman
10-03-2013, 02:51 PM
I believe Rex, Jim and I got MVVIII put together in 4 weeks --the bid portion--after we said--hey --lets give it a try--it is doable.
License2Bill
10-03-2013, 03:55 PM
Chop chop and move here already will ya! :burnout:
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On my way
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1 Bad Merc
10-03-2013, 04:05 PM
I believe Rex, Jim and I got MVVIII put together in 4 weeks --the bid portion--after we said--hey --lets give it a try--it is doable.
We have some big shoes to fill with all the past great Maraudervilles!!!!
We will give it the college try -which reminds me ..........
Some NWS language not to bad :)
http://youtu.be/q7vtWB4owdE
1 Bad Merc
10-03-2013, 04:26 PM
Okay -the ball is really starting to roll on this bid but it has come to my attention that we have a few honorary WCM guys that will be joining in with us.......and they have let's say a slightly checkered past.......hhhhmmmmm I wonder who those guys are???????? :cool4:
Let's just say they dont always play well with others :eek:
This one is for you guys :neener:
http://youtu.be/Y0cF2piwjYQ
Baaad GN
10-03-2013, 06:35 PM
They are Chicago Boys so nothing else matters! I think I know who your talking about!!
Also where's my Intercooler??
Regarding next year, like to light fires under people to get them moving.
lji372
10-03-2013, 07:14 PM
Damn! You guys make me want to move there!!
Either way mm.net or not, set a party up and I know a couple Michigan guys will be there.
Can we do this before November pleeeeeease ;)
1 Bad Merc
10-03-2013, 09:54 PM
They are Chicago Boys so nothing else matters! I think I know who your talking about!!
Also where's my Intercooler??
Regarding next year, like to light fires under people to get them moving.
There's a few of them :banana2:
Called Kirban's and they talked to Precision who is making your intercooler and it will ship out Friday. Me and Allen are coming over tomorrow to start the GN reassembly and I am leaving some of the beer at home :beer:
Let the carnage begin -HOOO RAAAAHHH!!!!!!!
Haggis
10-04-2013, 04:45 AM
You told me you would be their -your just like all the other people I have dated :bigcry:
Your just to loose for me.
My understanding is that Dooms little friend is not so little. I heard there was talk of an eclipse, turns out Doom just saw a midget and his friend blocked the sun
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:lol::lol:
1 Bad Merc
10-04-2013, 09:30 AM
Okay -I need to "Bomp" this thread to the top!!!!!! This is an oldy but goody-a motorhead 350 special :)
http://youtu.be/lXmsLe8t_gg
PonyUP
10-04-2013, 09:49 AM
Taliban Bump
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1 Bad Merc
10-04-2013, 10:17 AM
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OMG......I just lost it :)
WhatsUpDOHC
10-04-2013, 10:32 AM
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Mighty big "shoes"to fill. :eek:
1Marauder
10-04-2013, 07:59 PM
What about Vegas?...
1 Bad Merc
10-06-2013, 10:24 PM
What about Vegas?...
Okay -bump this thread to the top -anymore coming to Fox's pub on monday night? Post up to let us know so we can change the reservation and add more seats if we need to.
Will see everyone their Tonight!!!!!!!
lji372
10-07-2013, 02:48 AM
Okay -bump this thread to the top -anymore coming to Fox's pub on monday night? Post up to let us know so we can change the reservation and add more seats if we need to.
Will see everyone their Tonight!!!!!!!
Someone's a little excited..........Awsome!!!:bee r:
CWright
10-07-2013, 09:14 AM
Okay -bump this thread to the top -anymore coming to Fox's pub on monday night? Post up to let us know so we can change the reservation and add more seats if we need to.
Will see everyone their Tonight!!!!!!!
Someone's a little excited..........Awsome!!!:bee r:
I remember that excitement!!!!! :D
Chi Stallion
10-07-2013, 12:22 PM
Il be there hopefully there's VIP parking for a nice clean shiny black Marauder.
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VMARAUDER
10-07-2013, 02:03 PM
Il be there hopefully there's VIP parking for a nice clean shiny black Marauder.
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VIP Parking for DTR'S ONLY
VMARAUDER
10-07-2013, 02:03 PM
What time will it be getting started?
1 Bad Merc
10-07-2013, 03:45 PM
7:30ish -8:00
1 Bad Merc
10-08-2013, 10:12 PM
Thanks guys for coming out. We had a good group and everyone has projects to work on :) We will be meeting on Oct. 21 as a follow up at Fox's pub.
Same bat time, same bat place! If you can make it we would love to have you come out.
[QUOTE=1 Bad Merc;1337140]Thanks guys for coming out. We had a good group and everyone has projects to work on :) We will be meeting on Oct. 21 as a follow up at Fox's pub.
I made a reservation for Mon Oct 21st.....7:30-8:00ish....same private room....:beer:
UncleLar
10-14-2013, 06:11 PM
What about Vegas?...
I don't know if they'd let ya bring a Vega...............
tbone
10-15-2013, 07:33 AM
I wish you guys could meet on Tuesday, Wednesday or Sunday evenings. I have to work Mondays until 9......
Curless
10-15-2013, 07:49 AM
I wish you guys could meet on Tuesday, Wednesday or Sunday evenings. I have to work Mondays until 9......
Yeah, How about the following Sunday??? The 27th???
ajdereicup
10-16-2013, 10:08 PM
Damn can't believe I missed this. You guys need help with anything lemme know. I should be able to make it to the follow up meeting if needed. Do you guys have a plan setup? I was working on setting up the big meet for the Vic guys in Chicago last year but they voted for Cleveland instead so I got some things possibly if you guys need some ideas/plans
VMARAUDER
10-17-2013, 07:05 AM
Damn can't believe I missed this. You guys need help with anything lemme know. I should be able to make it to the follow up meeting if needed. Do you guys have a plan setup? I was working on setting up the big meet for the Vic guys in Chicago last year but they voted for Cleveland instead so I got some things possibly if you guys need some ideas/plans
We need all input and there is a meeting on Monday 10/21 hope to see you there
1 Bad Merc
10-17-2013, 09:41 AM
[QUOTE=1 Bad Merc;1337140]Thanks guys for coming out. We had a good group and everyone has projects to work on :) We will be meeting on Oct. 21 as a follow up at Fox's pub.
I made a reservation for Mon Oct 21st.....7:30-8:00ish....same private room....:beer:
Thanks Pem for setting it up! Hope to see everyone their again :)
ajdereicup
10-17-2013, 10:21 AM
Alright count me in then as long as I can find the place. Might be a little late might be early. Getting my hair cut so depends on the line on that. I'll try and find the preliminary crap I was looking into for the CV guys
Baaad GN
10-17-2013, 12:24 PM
Idea's??????? that's the problem with a large group we have plenty of idea's so someone might not be happy, not enough days!!!!!!!! HMMMMMM maybe we could run it for a whole week?
ajdereicup
10-17-2013, 12:42 PM
Can we post ideas in here or is this top secret crap?
lji372
10-17-2013, 01:02 PM
Can we post ideas in here or is this top secret crap?
Well you don't want people copying your ideas do you.:lol:
ajdereicup
10-17-2013, 01:11 PM
Lol they're just rough ideas. Don't care if any of the Windycity guys yank them just didn't know if it's some like crazy competition to get to win Marauderville with like people spying on other locations ideas and stuff lol
I'm sure our planning group doesn't have to be reminded of our follow-up meeting tonight Mon Oct 21st at 7:30ish/8:00 at Foxes in Oak Lawn 9240 S Cicero....same room....enjoy a few adult beverages (drink responsibly) and eat, too....C U there.....:beer:
ajdereicup
10-21-2013, 10:48 AM
I'll be there. Hopefully I don't hit too much traffic on the way down
1 Bad Merc
10-21-2013, 12:07 PM
Meeting tonight at Fox's Pub -7:30 ish. Hope to see everyone there!
VMARAUDER
10-21-2013, 02:16 PM
I regret that I will not make tonight's meeting, thought I would be doing better and was ok ...I thought til I went to doctor today and really started feel bad
Been down with respitory infection for the past week is what we found out
Will be at the next meeting definitely
1 Bad Merc
10-21-2013, 02:54 PM
We have had alot of cancellations for tonight so Let's reschedule for monday 10-28. Let me know if you have an issue. Pem can you cancel with Fox's or do you need me to handle it? Pls. let me know.
Thanks
champ1173
10-21-2013, 02:55 PM
I'm sorry to say that I wont be able to make it either. I drove to Iowa this past Friday for my sisters wedding. The next morning the turn signals weren't working. Then I realized the head lights, tail lights, alarm, and cluster lights weren't working either. Came here to find out that my LCM took a crap! I'd drive my other car, but I don't think my Taurus would make it. (I was hit in the rear by a semi! The lip of the wheel well rubs the tire over some bumps. It's great to use as just a work vehicle.)
Get well soon Vincent!
guspech750
10-21-2013, 03:06 PM
We have had alot of cancellations for tonight so Let's reschedule for monday 10-28. Let me know if you have an issue. Pem can you cancel with Fox's or do you need me to handle it? Pls. let me know.
Thanks
Yes.
A reschedule will be very good. I've been way to busy at work and demoing my house before the roll off dumpsters were picked up. Now my wife is having surgery tomorrow and I'll have to care for her for quite some time.
Sent from The White House on taxpayers dimes.
DTR + 4.10's + Eaton swap = Wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom
TAKEDOWN
10-21-2013, 03:25 PM
Yes, that'll work out perfect!
champ1173
10-21-2013, 03:54 PM
We have had alot of cancellations for tonight so Let's reschedule for monday 10-28. Let me know if you have an issue. Pem can you cancel with Fox's or do you need me to handle it? Pls. let me know.
Thanks
Good! Now I don't feel so bad.
tbone
10-21-2013, 04:58 PM
Make it Tuesday or Weds. evenings....
ajdereicup
10-21-2013, 05:39 PM
Get better soon. I should be able to make it then too
was no problem canceling our meeting room reservation for tonight....rescheduled for Mon Oct 28th...same time and place....now we have another week to come up with more ideas...;););)...thanks to Michelle at Foxes...............
Motorhead350
10-24-2013, 09:14 PM
Okay -I need to "Bomp" this thread to the top!!!!!! This is an oldy but goody-a motorhead 350 special :)
http://youtu.be/lXmsLe8t_gg
Love it.
Thanks.
Good luck guys. I hope you get it and hope I can make it.
1 Bad Merc
10-28-2013, 10:23 AM
Just a reminder we have our meeting for tonight at Fox's Pub around 7:30 PM. Hope to see everyone their.
ajdereicup
10-28-2013, 01:15 PM
I'll be there
justbob
10-29-2013, 06:41 PM
Further N - N/W really should be considered.
Cheaper rates
Less traffic
Volo auto museum
Train museum
Wild West town
Great Lakes dragaway
Great America
Drive in theater
Tons and tons of restaurants
That's just an off the head list as there is plenty more.
Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.
Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"
Baaad GN
10-29-2013, 10:20 PM
AHHHHHHH ya forgot something Justbob, also your House! LOL
justbob
10-30-2013, 06:29 PM
AHHHHHHH ya forgot something Justbob, also your House! LOL
HELLS no! No parking. :)
I'm getting a room regardless of where it would be held. North, South, across the street, doesn't matter, because all the fun is at the hotel! Just reminding of what's around. Forget all about Route 66, half the cars that would go would probably fail tech, no secret there on how stringent they are. I know I would never waste my time or money there.
Self proclaimed Builder Of Badassery.
Buy it, Break it, Build it BETTER.
"Since 2004"
Is there another meeting tonight at Foxes to continue bid package for 2014 Marauderville or does the Bear/Packer game supercede that time slot?
VMARAUDER
11-04-2013, 03:56 PM
Is there another meeting tonight at Foxes to continue bid package for 2014 Marauderville or does the Bear/Packer game supercede that time slot?
BUMP...Well?
1 Bad Merc
11-05-2013, 12:09 AM
Sorry Guys really busy weekend for me. Thought since the game was on and our last discussion we were going to gather some info and then arrange a meeting so nothing was mentioned for tonight.
Let's go ahead and schedule for next week monday for sure. Let me know if it works for everyone.
Sorry Guys really busy weekend for me. Thought since the game was on and our last discussion we were going to gather some info and then arrange a meeting so nothing was mentioned for tonight.
Let's go ahead and schedule for next week monday for sure. Let me know if it works for everyone.
I'll call Foxes in OakLawn and make a reservation for next Monday--same time 7:30/8:00ish...we could try another place a little further north or west in consideration for zack & yjmud & others who might like to attend....maybe even another day....only askin'....:)
1 Bad Merc
11-05-2013, 10:39 AM
I am totally open if they want to change it. I am just really busy right now with the kids as my wife broke her wrist last week and needless to say things are hectic around my house :)
Motorhead350
11-05-2013, 04:17 PM
Keep me posted. I might stop by. I have a few suggestions, but cannot devote the time to making arrangements.
Motorhead350
11-09-2013, 03:28 PM
Are we meeting up monday?
What is the plan?
1 Bad Merc
11-10-2013, 02:24 AM
That is the plan! Meet up Monday
That is the plan! Meet up Monday
Foxes 9240 S Cicero Oak Lawn 7:30/8:00ish same conference room :beer:
Motorhead350
11-11-2013, 02:39 PM
tonight?.............
Motorhead350
11-11-2013, 10:33 PM
Good meeting tonight people.
Good laughs too!
Haggis
11-12-2013, 05:09 AM
That is the plan! Meet up Monday
So how did it go?
So how did it go?
meeting went well.....Brad checked out another Holiday Inn that will book 50 rooms much cheaper than the Holiday Inn in Tinley Park....few other venues to check out for activities and we should be off and running.....details coming soon.........:beer:
VMARAUDER
11-12-2013, 10:08 AM
Sorry I missed tbe meeting, in St Louis area tending to the care of my hospitalized daughter
Glad there's a breakthrough with tbe hotel which was one of the biggest obstacles
1 Bad Merc
11-12-2013, 10:43 AM
Sorry I missed tbe meeting, in St Louis area tending to the care of my hospitalized daughter
Glad there's a breakthrough with tbe hotel which was one of the biggest obstacles
No worries - I hope your daughter is doing okay. Take care of your family first. Will see ya soon.
svtguy
11-16-2013, 01:01 PM
Wow, I need to check in more often. Can't believe I missed these get togethers at Fox' right in my backyard. Is there an upcoming meeting scheduled yet?
My apologies for not getting this posted sooner.....to confirm, there is NO meeting tonight 11/18....everything should hopefully be finalized by next week to get the bid in on time
1 Bad Merc
11-25-2013, 12:53 PM
We basically have alot of the information together and will be working this week with various members to fine tune some details.
Thank you everyone for your help and input on this matter. I know we will have a great Marauderville bid and hopely we can get this event.
Motorhead350
11-25-2013, 07:03 PM
I didn't know we had weekly meetings.
ChiTownMaraud3r
11-25-2013, 08:12 PM
Wow, I need to check in more often. Can't believe I missed these get togethers at Fox' right in my backyard. Is there an upcoming meeting scheduled yet?
I didn't know we had weekly meetings.
I too was oblivious to these meetings :dunno:
I thought they only met once some time ago and I wasn't able to make that.
1 Bad Merc
11-26-2013, 11:33 AM
We did have weekly meetings and they were posted on this thread. We received a lot of great ideas from so many people that it was a bit overwhelming at times but we are finally getting a plan in place.
If someone had told me that it would be this tough to find hotels that could accomodate all of our needs and be within our normal price range I would have thought you were crazy. But it has been something of an adventure ...trust me.
I have a new appreciation for all the hard work our members/owners go through to find and retain these great accomodations that we are all used too. If you get a chance you should thank them directly for this as it is a real pain in the butt!
We will also be putting a call out for volunteers and people to run certain things if we receive MM.net's nomination.
So if you havent been able to attend a meeting no worries we will have plenty of stuff for people to get involved in.
IwantmyMMnow!
11-26-2013, 07:02 PM
All of this sounds fantastic, Brad. I hope you guys get the nod, as I think there will be a HUGE turnout for a MV in Chicago.
BODYMAN
11-26-2013, 07:09 PM
Heck yea! MV in Chitown Iam in for that also.,
Motorhead350
11-26-2013, 08:45 PM
I will do what I can if need be.
License2Bill
11-27-2013, 07:06 AM
I hope this happens. Chicago would be a sweet location
Sent from inside the T.A.R.D.I.S.
1 Bad Merc
12-11-2013, 05:13 AM
Okay Everyone -Just wanted to post to let you know that the Chicago Bid was submitted for Marauderville 12!
Sorry for the delay in posting this but Sunday night during the snow storm my wife and I were driving seperate vehicles, hit a patch of black ice and we totaled both of them. Everyone is okay and I am now working on my options with the insurance company.
The important thing is my wife and kids are okay and we all walked away without a scratch.
And before you ask NO the Marauder was not involved. It is safely stored in the garage.
I would like to personally thank everyone who attended our meetings and those who gave us many ideas for this event. Your work and efforts were very much appreciated. I could not have even come close to doing this without your great support.
I hope we can count on everyone for volunteering if we win the bid.
Thank you everyone again and
GO CHICAGO!!!!!!!!!
Haggis
12-11-2013, 05:28 AM
Okay Everyone -Just wanted to post to let you know that the Chicago Bid was submitted for Marauderville 12!
Sorry for the delay in posting this but Sunday night during the snow storm my wife and I were driving seperate vehicles, hit a patch of black ice and we totaled both of them. Everyone is okay and I am now working on my options with the insurance company.
The important thing is my wife and kids are okay and we all walked away without a scratch.
And before you ask NO the Marauder was not involved. It is safely stored in the garage.
I would like to personally thank everyone who attended our meetings and those who gave us many ideas for this event. Your work and efforts were very much appreciated. I could not have even come close to doing this without your great support.
I hope we can count on everyone for volunteering if we win the bid.
Thank you everyone again and
GO CHICAGO!!!!!!!!!
Glad to hear you and the family are ok and no one was seriously hurt.
1 Bad Merc
12-11-2013, 06:13 AM
Glad to hear you and the family are ok and no one was seriously hurt.
Thank you my friend! It shook the kids up a little bit but we are all good.
Dealing with insurance companies is like going to the dentist for a root canal
You keep screaming stop but they keep drilling you :eek:
Haggis
12-11-2013, 06:51 AM
Thank you my friend! It shook the kids up a little bit but we are all good.
Dealing with insurance companies is like going to the dentist for a root canal
You keep screaming stop but they keep drilling you :eek:
...or jail.
lji372
12-11-2013, 06:54 AM
:eek:
Great to hear everyone is good bro :)
VMARAUDER
12-11-2013, 06:55 AM
Glad you and the family are fine. I often warn my daughters of this peril as it as you know can affect anyone no matter how cautious we are.
I missed the last couple of meetings, can you pm me the details or send to the email address I gave you?
1 Bad Merc
12-11-2013, 07:40 AM
...or jail.
Is that what she said? ;)
1 Bad Merc
12-11-2013, 07:41 AM
:eek:
Great to hear everyone is good bro :)
Thanks I appreciate it. It's been something :censor:
1 Bad Merc
12-11-2013, 07:43 AM
Glad you and the family are fine. I often warn my daughters of this peril as it as you know can affect anyone no matter how cautious we are.
I missed the last couple of meetings, can you pm me the details or send to the email address I gave you?
Will do as soon as I get a chance. In fact I will probably just call you in a couple of days to fill you in.
Thanks for your kind comments. This caught us totally by surprise and I really did not think of this type of scenario. Glad I kept full coverage on both vehicles.
CWright
12-11-2013, 08:42 AM
Okay Everyone -Just wanted to post to let you know that the Chicago Bid was submitted for Marauderville 12!
Sorry for the delay in posting this but Sunday night during the snow storm my wife and I were driving seperate vehicles, hit a patch of black ice and we totaled both of them. Everyone is okay and I am now working on my options with the insurance company.
The important thing is my wife and kids are okay and we all walked away without a scratch.
And before you ask NO the Marauder was not involved. It is safely stored in the garage.
I would like to personally thank everyone who attended our meetings and those who gave us many ideas for this event. Your work and efforts were very much appreciated. I could not have even come close to doing this without your great support.
I hope we can count on everyone for volunteering if we win the bid.
Thank you everyone again and
GO CHICAGO!!!!!!!!!
Sorry to hear about this buddy! Glad you guys are ok!
HammerDown
12-11-2013, 12:08 PM
Sorry to hear about your two vehicles--but thank God you and family are not hurt.
Hope insurance "stuff" will get resolved soon.............
1 Bad Merc
12-11-2013, 01:21 PM
Sorry to hear about this buddy! Glad you guys are ok!
Thanks Chris -I appreciate it.:)
1 Bad Merc
12-11-2013, 01:37 PM
Sorry to hear about your two vehicles--but thank God you and family are not hurt.
Hope insurance "stuff" will get resolved soon.............
Thank you -hopefully the stuff gets resolved. I think I am going to buy back the cars and have them fixed. Still debating. :beer:
IwantmyMMnow!
12-11-2013, 04:45 PM
Brad....just now read about this. Glad you and the fam are okay.
Is it April yet? :beer:
1 Bad Merc
12-12-2013, 01:12 AM
Brad....just now read about this. Glad you and the fam are okay.
Is it April yet? :beer:
Trust me Kyle I sure the heck could use a drink! It's been a couple of tough days but what can you do?
Me and Elvis are ready for a Louisville reunion~
Viva Los Louisville :woohoo:
Mebot
12-12-2013, 04:46 AM
Sorry to hear about both your cars Brad. Hope you guys don't have any recurring injuries from this. Have you gotten checked out at the doctor's?
1 Bad Merc
12-12-2013, 08:07 AM
Sorry to hear about both your cars Brad. Hope you guys don't have any recurring injuries from this. Have you gotten checked out at the doctor's?
Thank you my friend -no I am feeling okay i just banged my left foot up pretty good. Kids and wife are okay except the wife has the flu now .... :(
Just looked at my truck today and it is jacked! Whole left side from drivers door down to the rear bumper is smashed. Looks like a hill with separate moguls in it. Back of the bed the metal is actually torn. Hard to do anything when it is 6 degrees out!
Might have to breakdown and buy a new used one ....hard cause I actually love my truck!
RubberCtyRauder
12-12-2013, 08:58 AM
Didn't see this posting of the accident with your family. Sorry to hear of the family being in one at the same time, but glad to hear everyone made it ok , except for a few bruises, soreness. Hope the insurance decisions work out and everyone can move forward to better things.:beer:
Baaad GN
12-12-2013, 10:42 AM
Wait who said Northerner's know how to drive in snow!! Slow down!!!
Baaad GN
12-12-2013, 10:44 AM
Nope ya can't drive the GN for a while! You forgot how to put it back together but I'm working on it so that car is not on the list!
geez Brad, it would be bad enough to wreck one, but both? :bigcry: Really glad that all is well with everyone..:)..that's the important thing!!!!! the bid is in and now we wait...i'll call you soon...was a pleasure meeting your wife and sons the other day
TAKEDOWN
12-12-2013, 03:26 PM
Wow Brad! I'm glad to hear you both are ok, cars are replaceable not loved ones. I hope your process with the insurance company is a smooth one.
1 Bad Merc
12-12-2013, 05:21 PM
Thanks guys I appreciate it! It was tough Paul especially with two cars at one time! Trying to get extra time from the insurance company on the rental car and looking for parts.
Thank you Drew for your thoughts too!
Anyone down south run into a nice 1994-1996 Dodge Ram pick-up bed? Not sure how I can ship it up here but the majority of beds up here are all rust buckets and not worth it to fix. If someone sees a nice southern one please let me know.
There not going to give me a lot for my truck so I have to try and fix it as cheap as possible.
And Thanks dad for offering the GN For me to drive -I think I will skip that for now. :)
lji372
12-12-2013, 05:47 PM
Pull out the rauder :D
1 Bad Merc
12-12-2013, 05:56 PM
Pull out the rauder :D
Not that desperate yet! :shake:
VMARAUDER
12-12-2013, 07:33 PM
Not that desperate yet! :shake:
I feel you on that one
Baaad GN
12-17-2013, 12:42 PM
BUMP, bump, bump, long enough now?
fireandice9008
12-17-2013, 02:09 PM
Anyone down south run into a nice 1994-1996 Dodge Ram pick-up bed? Not sure how I can ship it up here but the majority of beds up here are all rust buckets and not worth it to fix. If someone sees a nice southern one please let me know.
Short or long? Those model trucks are everywhere down here, and there's usually a few in any given salvage yard too.
jimlam56
12-17-2013, 04:48 PM
Short or long? Those model trucks are everywhere down here, and there's usually a few in any given salvage yard too.
Yeah, here in Florida too.
I'd scour ebay and craigslist in some southern metro cities.
There's MM members in every one of them, and I'm sure they would take a look for you if you see a truck you like.
If you go this route and need something looked at in the Jacksonville, FL area let me know.
I would love to be there since my MM will return from the grave......via Mo's Speed Shop.
1 Bad Merc
12-20-2013, 02:26 AM
thanks guys! I am going to wait till the spring and then start really looking. Will need a 6ft short bed and maybe a drivers side fender as it is starting to rust.
Dam salt and crap up here will kill anything that is driven in the winter. Washed my truck every week and kept it waxed but it didnt matter as the rust just came out from the inside of the panels!
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