Name your tune...

[SergntMac]

What kind of tune would you like to get for your Marauder?

[Haggis]

This is one of those posts where I sit back and keep my mouth shut and hopefully I can learn something.

Six of one and a half dozen the other to me.

Let the learning begin!!

[TripleTransAm]

I'm really interested in being able to tweak my own tune, which I believe is doable via the SCT Pro Racer or something like that. However, I'll only go that route if I know I can get a hold of CRD1 factory calibrations, as I'd simply want to tweak a few parameters at the most, just to customize the factory calibrations. I'm not sure if CRD1 is readily available... anyone know?

[schuvwj]

I'm really interested in being able to tweak my own tune, which I believe is doable via the SCT Pro Racer or something like that. However, I'll only go that route if I know I can get a hold of CRD1 factory calibrations, as I'd simply want to tweak a few parameters at the most, just to customize the factory calibrations. I'm not sure if CRD1 is readily available... anyone know?

TripleTransAm, what is a CRD1? Is it needed to properly modify our programs with the SCT Pro Racer software?

[woaface]

Well I voted hand-held SCT because that's what I have. But from what I've been seeing a dyno-tune would have been a somewhat better idea.

However I love the SCT program, gives a much firmer shift than before.

[martyo]

Mac: I am confooosed. What is the difference between the third and fourth cherces? The lawyer in me has me reading too much into this....

[SergntMac]

Mac: I am confooosed. What is the difference between the third and fourth cherces? The lawyer in me has me reading too much into this....

About two degrees, or, 1/8th of an inch.

[SergntMac]

Mac: I am confooosed. What is the difference between the third and fourth cherces? The lawyer in me has me reading too much into this....
J/K...

A "dyno day" is where a club gets together and rents the dyno for testing, no tuning. Generally speaking it runs about 50 bucks for two pulls, but that's negotiable with the dyno owner too. One of those "just for fun" thingys a Marauder owner might do.

[TAF]

About two degrees, or, 1/8th of an inch.
Well...we ALL know that^^^ can be a LOT in the scheme of things.

[martyo]

J/K...

A "dyno day" is where a club gets together and rents the dyno for testing, no tuning. Generally speaking it runs about 50 bucks for two pulls, but that's negotiable with the dyno owner too. Jus one of those "just for fun" thingys a Marauder owner might do.
Gotcha chief. Now I understand.

[SergntMac]

Well...we ALL know that^^^ can be a LOT in the scheme of things.
Yep, and you make anything you want out of it, anything at all.

[MainEngDwarf]

I have the handheld programable tuner that DR sells. I like that best because:
1) I can reload the stock program if I need to for service work.
2) As the custom programs get better, I can send it back to DR for upgrading.
3) I can use it to check codes
4) Soon there will be the computer program and cable, so all I have to do is get the program and load it from my pc to the programer.
5) It holds more than 1 program at a time.

[TripleTransAm]

TripleTransAm, what is a CRD1? Is it needed to properly modify our programs with the SCT Pro Racer software?


CRD1 is what's loaded in my MM right now (or at least WAS loaded before my battery went wonky... I hope it didn't frazzle the flashmemory as the voltage dropped below operational levels).

You can check what's loaded (or what the car came from the factory with) by looking at the tear tag on the driver's side A-pillar with the door open.

[duhtroll]

I s'pose the real question is do you want control or to let someone else have control over the finer points?

I choose the latter, because I want someone who knows more than me working on my car.

Kinda like, when I get my CPU built I search for the nappy-haired badly dressed, smoke-reeking guy that I know stayed up all night building it to be as fast/efficient as it can be. (no offense to any CPU techs here)

It's personal preference. If I knew what I was doing I would buya tuner and do it myself - it would save on the tuning costs down the road.

Thanks,
-A

[Petrograde]

Well I voted hand-held SCT because that's what I have. But from what I've been seeing a dyno-tune would have been a somewhat better idea.

However I love the SCT program, gives a much firmer shift than before.

^^^what he said^^^

[Silver_04]

A dyno tune is my preference but I would like to have the SCT to store the factory and new program if I would need them later. Be nice to make little tweaks with the SCT later too.

[gonzo50]

A dyno tune is my preference but I would like to have the SCT to store the factory and new program if I would need them later. Be nice to make little tweaks with the SCT later too.
I have the SCMT for the same reason but I would prefer the Dyno Tune for expert fine tuning you can't get from a hand held tuner. :D

[SergntMac]

I'm really interested in being able to tweak my own tune, which I believe is doable via the SCT Pro Racer or something like that. However, I'll only go that route if I know I can get a hold of CRD1 factory calibrations, as I'd simply want to tweak a few parameters at the most, just to customize the factory calibrations. I'm not sure if CRD1 is readily available... anyone know?
IMHO, /Steve, you can do this now. Both the SCT hand held, and the Pro Racer software allow you to copy your CRD1 programmming as it is on your EEC, and store it in that perfect state. You can mess around with a copy of it, but the OEM settings are always on hand.

[CRUZTAKER]

I voted pre-programmed chip, but if I had two-vote op, I would have also chosen the dyno-tune as well. Things change over time, as do parameters, and it's nice to get that tweak every now and again. Something one would have to send their tuner 'out' for to have the flash permanently stored.

[TripleTransAm]

IMHO, /Steve, you can do this now. Both the SCT hand held, and the Pro Racer software allow you to copy your CRD1 programmming as it is on your EEC, and store it in that perfect state. You can mess around with a copy of it, but the OEM settings are always on hand.


VERY interesting... this pretty much opens the door for me. I've just spent some of my remaining free $$ on that Autotap s/w and cable that a member was selling a couple of weeks back ("Marauderer?"). Once I receive it, I'll probably spend a bit of time seeing how the PCM makes its decisions and what I can monitor, then the next logical step is the Pro Racer. Thanks for the clarification.

Most interesting to me is shift points and TCC application styles/speed. From then, I suppose I can begin to tweak fuel and spark but probably nowhere near as aggressive as what's been delivered so far.

[MarauderMark]

This is one of those posts where I sit back and keep my mouth shut and hopefully I can learn something.

Six of one and a half dozen the other to me.

Let the learning begin!!


What he said..;)

[MAD-3R]

Concidering what I have under my hood. A Dyno tune is really the only way fro me to go safely.

[Marauderman]

Well, looks like I'm with the majority--A dyno Tune --.

.I've had two of Jerry's tune , one in Altlanta and the other just recently again in Raleigh...The first was pre-S/C and the other with the S/C...Each had it's purpose for what I had in the car at the time and the results were better afterwards--....SO I'm a little spoiled I guess, especially since I'm not a wrench nor a SCT knowledge person.... and I like the opportunity and fun at a dyno day event anyway--plus the trip there...after all --you drive your MM there and you rocket it home with the results...thats what I call FUN!!! ....Tom

[Paul T. Casey]

I assumed that pre-programed and reflashed are the same. This is the way for me as I'm not too awfully good with this computin'. I like fiddling with things, and I'm thinking I could do some damage with a self programer.

[Ross]

Although I have a pre programmed chip, I would like a dyno tune from someone who really knows what he is doing. I don't think I could properly tune it myself with a do it yourself programmer.

[Fourth Horseman]

I have the handheld programable tuner that DR sells. I like that best because:
1) I can reload the stock program if I need to for service work.
2) As the custom programs get better, I can send it back to DR for upgrading.
3) I can use it to check codes
4) Soon there will be the computer program and cable, so all I have to do is get the program and load it from my pc to the programer.
5) It holds more than 1 program at a time.

Hmm... I was thinking about just getting a pre-programmed chip from DR, but after seeing this I'm thinking the programable unit might make more sense. Is there a large price difference between the two? Does the programmer just re-flash the stock PCM or do you have to add a chip to it that holds the code from the programmer?

[MainEngDwarf]

Well Mr. Horseman :D It saves the factory program then reflashes the PCM with any of the other codes saved to the programmer. Mine came with 2 of DR's programs. One for premium fuel and one for race fuel. If I remember correctly it can hold up to 4 differnt programs. The best part is that if you decide to do more upgrades latter its easily upgraded. I'm not sure of the price differnce. I didn't price the chip and I got the tuner in a recent group buy that DR was running.

[Fourth Horseman]

Well Mr. Horseman :D It saves the factory program then reflashes the PCM with any of the other codes saved to the programmer. Mine came with 2 of DR's programs. One for premium fuel and one for race fuel. If I remember correctly it can hold up to 4 differnt programs. The best part is that if you decide to do more upgrades latter its easily upgraded. I'm not sure of the price differnce. I didn't price the chip and I got the tuner in a recent group buy that DR was running.

Excellent. Thx. It sounds like it'd be worth the extra expense just to be able to load the factory default config back before taking it in for service.

[MainEngDwarf]

your most welcome

[HwyCruiser]

Since I already went with the SCT, my vote is more just for the record.

I had to download the stock program to send the hand held back to DR for a check-up... no fuss, no muss, no problem. It tells you what button to press and when to press it. Its a good solution for those of us who shouldn't be allowed to run with scissors.

-JD

[RCSignals]

I like Black Bear. It's a rousing tune
Caber Feidh is pretty good too

[SergntMac]

I like Black Bear. It's a rousing tune
Caber Feidh is pretty good too
YAH!

Other style of "tune" Piper...Jeeze!

Now y'all now why I didn't particpate in the "what's in your 6-pack" thread.

[Bigdogjim]

YAH!

Other style of "tune" Piper...Jeeze!

Now y'all now why I didn't particpate in the "what's in your 6-pack" thread.
See Mac: I never highjacked the thread:)

It was hard not to "jump" in:help:

Carry on please:bounce:

[SergntMac]

Not a problem, BigDog, and I get RC's humor too.