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burt ragio
11-20-2013, 08:09 AM
I have the Addco solid 2196 up front & 650 out back. The sway bar bushings & end links are worn. I need correct replacements. I have been getting all different answers. What are the correct PN ?
fastblackmerc
11-20-2013, 08:58 AM
I have the Addco solid 2196 up front & 650 out back. The sway bar bushings & end links are worn. I need correct replacements. I have been getting all different answers. What are the correct PN ?
The rear has "standard" end links. The fronts are like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moog-Sway-Bar-End-Link-K80066-/331065147062?pt=Motors_Car_Tru ck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d15053eb6&vxp=mtr
Does Addco even sell replacements?
I'd just measure the length and get the Energy Suspension ones for the rear.
For the front you'll need the proper end links. Get the Moog ones with grease fitting for the front.
I have the part numbers at home.
lifespeed
11-20-2013, 09:24 AM
Personally I prefer the Ford end links (and ball joints and tie rods) as they have sealed boots and are "lubed for life". Greasing suspension is a PITA, and I don't think there is evidence Ford is wrong about this. Moog does make good stuff, but less maintenance is good IMO.
For the rear end links you might try Energy Suspension 9.8118. I think they are about 0.2" shorter than Addco, but this will just allow for some lowering and/or additional travel in the rear. You might check the orientation of your existing sway bar, length of the existing links, and any anticipated change in ride height. They're cheap enough anyway.
fastblackmerc
11-20-2013, 10:39 AM
Personally I prefer the Ford end links (and ball joints and tie rods) as they have sealed boots and are "lubed for life". Greasing suspension is a PITA, and I don't think there is evidence Ford is wrong about this. Moog does make good stuff, but less maintenance is good IMO.
For the rear end links you might try Energy Suspension 9.8118. I think they are about 0.2" shorter than Addco, but this will just allow for some lowering and/or additional travel in the rear. You might check the orientation of your existing sway bar, length of the existing links, and any anticipated change in ride height. They're cheap enough anyway.
Personally I like the greasable end links, rear control arms, Watts link and front and rear sway bar bushings. I only grease them 2x's a year. It's a good time to get under the MM to check things out. And I like working on my vehicles whether it's maintenance or mods.
fastblackmerc
11-20-2013, 02:45 PM
Just got home.
Here are some part numbers:
Greaseable Sway Bar Bushings - Energy Suspensions
Front – 9.5165 or 9.5172
Rear – 9.5161
Front End links:
Moog - K80140 - greasable
Mevotech – MK80140
Deeza – FOL727 & FOL728
Auto Extra – AXK80140
Raybestos - 5451343
You won't be able to use the rear bushings unless you do some modinifactions to the rear mounts which usually involves welding I found a way to do it without welding. Will try and post ids up this weekend.
lifespeed
11-20-2013, 03:07 PM
You won't be able to use the rear bushings unless you do some modinifactions to the rear mounts which usually involves welding I found a way to do it without welding. Will try and post ids up this weekend.
I drilled and tapped the OEM rear sway bar brackets for 1/4-28 grease fittings. Took a few minutes, not too difficult. There is enough meat there if you are careful.
This mod is important for smooth suspension operation with an Addco sway bar. The OEM bushings are the type that twist the rubber, but Addco slips inside the bushing. Grease is definitely required.
lifespeed
11-20-2013, 03:09 PM
Personally I like the greasable end links, rear control arms, Watts link and front and rear sway bar bushings. I only grease them 2x's a year. It's a good time to get under the MM to check things out. And I like working on my vehicles whether it's maintenance or mods.
I have to grease the Metco's on mine also. The improvement is worth the extra trouble.
Mr. Man
11-20-2013, 03:13 PM
I slathered ours with some sort of marine grease the shop had. So far no squeaks.
Hood on the other hand needs bumpers:lol:
fastblackmerc
11-20-2013, 03:25 PM
I slathered ours with some sort of marine grease the shop had. So far no squeaks.
Hood on the other hand needs bumpers:lol:
Addco recommends a synthetic grease... that is what I use.
boatmangc
11-20-2013, 04:30 PM
This stuff right here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/200951559179?lpid=82
Put it on and forget about it..
One tub like this will do a fleet of Marauders.
burt ragio
11-20-2013, 05:16 PM
If I lower the car say 1" do I get shorter or longer end links ?
lifespeed
11-20-2013, 05:20 PM
If I lower the car say 1" do I get shorter or longer end links ?
Shorter. Maybe shorter bump stops too.
burt ragio
11-20-2013, 05:36 PM
What is the lenght for front & rear end links on larger Addco bars ?
tbone
11-21-2013, 09:07 AM
Personally I like the greasable end links, rear control arms, Watts link and front and rear sway bar bushings. I only grease them 2x's a year. It's a good time to get under the MM to check things out. And I like working on my vehicles whether it's maintenance or mods.
:beer::beer:
burt ragio
11-21-2013, 08:18 PM
So I found out that the stock rear bar end links are 8"bolts 5" center. With the car lowered 1" Addco recomended 1" shorter go with Addco 012 end links. I wet with the Energy Suspension only because I wanted other parts as well. So the end links 9.8119 Also ordered new greasable poly mount bushings for the sway bars front 9.5165 & rear 9.5161 .
lifespeed
11-21-2013, 08:34 PM
So I found out that the stock rear bar end links are 8"bolts 5" center. With the car lowered 1" Addco recomended 1" shorter go with Addco 012 end links. I wet with the Energy Suspension only because I wanted other parts as well. So the end links 9.8119 Also ordered new greasable poly mount bushings for the sway bars front 9.5165 & rear 9.5161 .
Those end links are really close to stock length, but I don't know how much of an interference problem the solid rear bar is.
With the axle supported by jack stands so the rear suspension is loaded, just pivot it downward when you disconnect the rear links to see where the bind point is and how much shorter of a link you'll need.
burt ragio
11-22-2013, 08:39 AM
Any idea what the max travel should be from ride height to max compression ?
Is max travel dertermined by shock travel extention /compression ? If not I will just have some one jump up & down on trailer hitch.
lifespeed
11-22-2013, 09:33 AM
Any idea what the max travel should be from ride height to max compression ?
Is max travel dertermined by shock travel extention /compression ? If not I will just have some one jump up & down on trailer hitch.
Travel is supposed to be limited by the bump stops.
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