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sflrainmaker01
11-26-2013, 01:00 PM
What is the difference between the stock BFG G-Force T/A vs. BFG Radial T/A?

fastblackmerc
11-26-2013, 03:02 PM
What is the difference between the stock BFG G-Force T/A vs. BFG Radial T/A?

Good reference source is tirerack.com
or
Manufacturers site: http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/

ctrlraven
11-26-2013, 03:31 PM
What is the difference between the stock BFG G-Force T/A vs. BFG Radial T/A?
BFG Radial T/A is an All-Season tire.

g-Force is the Sport & Performance series which includes the Sport COMP-2, KDW, Super Sport A/S and R1 & R1-S which are summer only and road racing/track tires.

Tnbigbody
11-27-2013, 08:07 PM
the previous owner of mine had the radials on the rear.... i hydroplaned with them... still had great tread on them but just not up to the task of gripping the power the car has.. i promptly got rears replaced and have since had replaced all of them (bad aglinment job (they would not do carfixers specs) after the hydroplane wore out the fronts within 5k miles) with the KDWS big difference with how it grabs the road and rides.. long and the short the radials are round, hold air, and will get you down the street.. but not a good choice for the type of car.. look at the ratings for the radials vs the KDWS and you will see a difference

sflrainmaker01
11-27-2013, 10:49 PM
the previous owner of mine had the radials on the rear.... i hydroplaned with them... still had great tread on them but just not up to the task of gripping the power the car has.. i promptly got rears replaced and have since had replaced all of them (bad aglinment job (they would not do carfixers specs) after the hydroplane wore out the fronts within 5k miles) with the KDWS big difference with how it grabs the road and rides.. long and the short the radials are round, hold air, and will get you down the street.. but not a good choice for the type of car.. look at the ratings for the radials vs the KDWS and you will see a difference

I read the ratings and stuff, but I was wondering what the real world difference is. Thanks for the info. I found a "deal" on 4 new 245 55 R 18 BFG Radial T/A's. But, after some more reading, I think I am still gonna go the 265 50 R 18 Nitto route. :burnout:

Bluerauder
11-28-2013, 05:12 AM
What is the difference between the stock BFG G-Force T/A vs. BFG Radial T/A?

Here is a very detailed review of the BFG Radial T/A from August 2009 when it came out on the Camaro >>>> http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55895

Here's the summary ....




SUMMARY: This is not a quality tire that I would recommend for performance use. The low T speed rating is consistent with the wimpy thin beads on the tire and the soft, flexible sidewalls. The construction quality is very lacking compared to the same size KDWs OEM Marauder tire. The KDWs balances with very little weight on a good quality wheel, whereas the Radial TA took so much weight to balance it was almost un-useable. The sidewall of the Radial TA is far less reinforced than the KDWs and will negatively impact handling. For GM to have passed over the KDWs and used this spec Radial TA, they are really cutting corners on the V6 2010 camaro. The KDWs is a far superior tire in all aspects to this spec Radial TA.

I would use the Radial TA on the rear only, if you can't afford anything else. It will be safer than a bald KDWs.

Overall I am extremely disappointed in this spec Radial TA. It is a US made tire and although it had a lower speed rating than the Marauder should really use, there is no excuse for manufacturing flaws that cause such a poor end product.

sflrainmaker01
11-28-2013, 08:35 AM
"I would use the Radial TA on the rear only, if you can't afford anything else. It will be safer than a bald KDWs."

So, what I read here is that they are only good for one thing...:burnout::burnout:

cruzer
11-28-2013, 10:50 AM
I was. Involved in 3 years of testing hydro planing on aircraft and autos. In a nut shell, hydro planing is controlled by tire pressure. Whether you are landing a 300,000 pound DC10 or a Mini Cooper the same rules apply. ANY automotive tire properly inflated will hydroplane in 1/16 I ch of water somewhere around 55 mph !!! Different treads designs do make slight differences as does tread depth , I will guarantee you, brand new tires will hydroplane before you exceed 60 mph in most cases. The new textured highway have a marked effect at low water depths of less than 1/2 inch. You can consider the source--- I have a broken back as the result of hydro planing over 7,000 at touch down speed of 100 mph and tire pressure of 125 psi. That's why I got in involved in the research. For what it is worth. Maury

lifespeed
12-03-2013, 12:29 PM
So far I have tried BFG KDWS, Yokohoma Advan (rear only) and Firestone wide oval.

The best were the BFG KDWS, IMO. Yokohoma had floppy sidewalls, and the Firestones will squeal through corners at speeds the BFG would have handled with aplomb.

MOTOWN
12-03-2013, 01:39 PM
So far I have tried BFG KDWS, Yokohoma Advan (rear only) and Firestone wide oval.

The best were the BFG KDWS, IMO. Yokohoma had floppy sidewalls, and the Firestones will squeal through corners at speeds the BFG would have handled with aplomb.

Youve got to be kidding:confused: BFGs are some of the poorest performing tires i ever had on my MM, Nittos, Toyo's, and Mickey thompsons were leaps, and bounds better!

There are a lot of other tires that are simply better than bfgs

lifespeed
12-03-2013, 02:16 PM
Youve got to be kidding:confused: BFGs are some of the poorest performing tires i ever had on my MM, Nittos, Toyo's, and Mickey thompsons were leaps, and bounds better!

There are a lot of other tires that are simply better than bfgs

It seems the BFG KDWS get a lot of bad press here. Maybe because they were OEM and people remember their bald tires and realize they weren't good. Most bald tires aren't . . .

BFG do have a very firm sidewall that resists cornering forces generated by these heavy cars. I think they are one of the best tires available.

I always thought of MT as a drag race tire. I'm more concerned with handling. Haven't tried Nitto or Toyo. Tire experimentation is expensive and it stinks when you get stuck with a bum steer. I wish I had not bought the Firestones, but the BFG were "temporarily unavailable" when I needed rubber. The Firestones aren't horrible, but are nothing to write home about either.

It would be interesting to do a side-by-side flex the sidewall test with the Nitto and BFG. Are the Nitto and Toyo available in the OEM sizes?

MOTOWN
12-03-2013, 05:37 PM
It seems the BFG KDWS get a lot of bad press here. Maybe because they were OEM and people remember their bald tires and realize they weren't good. Most bald tires aren't . . .

BFG do have a very firm sidewall that resists cornering forces generated by these heavy cars. I think they are one of the best tires available.

I always thought of MT as a drag race tire. I'm more concerned with handling. Haven't tried Nitto or Toyo. Tire experimentation is expensive and it stinks when you get stuck with a bum steer. I wish I had not bought the Firestones, but the BFG were "temporarily unavailable" when I needed rubber. The Firestones aren't horrible, but are nothing to write home about either.

It would be interesting to do a side-by-side flex the sidewall test with the Nitto and BFG. Are the Nitto and Toyo available in the OEM sizes?

The Toyo is only availible in oem front size, the rears were discontinued, Nitto also makes oem fronts, most people run a bigger rear.

MT makes street radials as well as the drags, i really like Nittos for the street until the winter months as they turn into slippery bricks!

Bluerauder
12-03-2013, 05:51 PM
It seems the BFG KDWS get a lot of bad press here. Maybe because they were OEM and people remember their bald tires and realize they weren't good. Most bald tires aren't . . .
I like the BFG KDWS too. However, as you noted ... most folks here have moved onto something else including Nittos, Coopers, Generals, Goodyear, or others.

Personally I like the handling of the OEMs and I do a lot of hard cornering and spirited driving. I get 36K on the fronts and 21K on the rears consistently. I swap out tires at or about 4/32 tread .... never take 'em to bald. Never a problem with inner tire wear on the fronts running 35 psi and the car is still wearing the factory alignment after 10 years. Have resigned myself to no more than 25K on the rears regardless of tire pressures at 38 psi.

I tried the Goodyear F1 GS-D3s for one cycle. Handling was OK and tire wear was only 15K on the rears so I went back to OEM BFGs. Still have a spare set of OEM rears in my garage.

Many here have called the BFGs junk (probably because of tire wear as you suspect); but I know what I like and I know exactly what I can do in the Marauder when wearing them. As long as I can get the BFG KDWS, I will be using them. So far .... so good.