View Full Version : Lidio and Martyo Tune Differences?
NavySeabee
12-11-2013, 02:29 PM
Title pretty much asks it all.
I bought my car with the Lidio tune installed. I love the tune, no complaints. I've had to return it to stock a couple of times for inspections and it amazes me how the car wakes up. What amazes me even more is how the car SUCKS without the tune! You figure they'd tune them a bit better right off the production line.
Anyway, I've never had the Martyo tune, has anyone tried both? Would one feel a difference during regular, daily driving & hwy?
fordmike65
12-11-2013, 02:38 PM
Wondering the same thing myself. I love my tune from Mo's so far.
whitey
12-11-2013, 03:13 PM
Well, i'll chime in here, i have a tune from a previous vendor here and i have a zack tune 2.0. At first, i didn't like the zack tune, but after about a month i figured id give it another shot...i noticed a difference between the two, and have to say, zack tune won hands down. My friend richardp needed a tune, so i gave him the zack tune and he loved it....pm me for details and ill dig up what i can find.
Ms. Denmark
12-11-2013, 03:33 PM
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05GM123
12-11-2013, 03:46 PM
I have a Zack tune and I don't know if it needs to be changed a little or if I just need to deal with it because I honestly do not like it. I hate having to decelerate in order for my car to shift from 3rd to overdrive unless I am doing over 60 getting onto the highway. However, if I am not on the highway and speeding up to 45-47ish (around 2000-2100 rpm) then it won't shift to overdrive unless I let off the gas slightly (if I don't let off the gas slightly then it takes about 20 seconds of constant speed to shift). Maybe I am not describing it adequately but you definitely can tell if you are in the car driving or as a passenger.
1 Bad Merc
12-11-2013, 03:49 PM
You can contact Z and let him know what the tune is doing. He can adjust the shift schedule in the tune to make it lock/unlock od.
Ms. Denmark
12-11-2013, 03:54 PM
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whitey
12-11-2013, 04:17 PM
I have a Zack tune and I don't know if it needs to be changed a little or if I just need to deal with it because I honestly do not like it. I hate having to decelerate in order for my car to shift from 3rd to overdrive unless I am doing over 60 getting onto the highway. However, if I am not on the highway and speeding up to 45-47ish (around 2000-2100 rpm) then it won't shift to overdrive unless I let off the gas slightly (if I don't let off the gas slightly then it takes about 20 seconds of constant speed to shift). Maybe I am not describing it adequately but you definitely can tell if you are in the car driving or as a passenger.
I know exactly what your saying, however i dont mind it at all, keeps it spunky on an on-ramp and incase i had to gun it, it wouldn't hurt the tranny. Like ms denmark said, its personal preferance.
lji372
12-11-2013, 04:27 PM
I like the lido tune so far in my s/c trilogy car. I asked for a little spunky with no neck snapping and that's what I got.
As far as the other two, no personal experience.
Come to Louisville in April. Sample a little of everything, then make your choice :D
MustangMarauder
12-11-2013, 04:31 PM
I've had a superchips micro tuner with a preloaded generic tune on my car nice 2003 and just recently upgraded to a MO's tune.....holy $h!t,what a difference.I've Never had a Lido tune but can say FUR SuRE Marty writes a mean tune....
CWright
12-11-2013, 05:35 PM
Marty= WIN!
LANDY
12-12-2013, 08:37 AM
I have driven and have had most tunes out there. Mine is a modified Lidio tune but I'm just different. However the tune from Jeff at Mo's is great and I would rock it in a daily.
Bluerauder
12-12-2013, 09:15 AM
You figure they'd tune them a bit better right off the production line.
Better for who (or what)? As I understand it, our cars were actually "detuned" at the factory to meet CAFE standards. This sapped some of the HP and resulted in a shift schedule and premature OD lock-up to improve overall fuel mileage. The potential has always been there and opened the door for SME tuners to optimize for performance rather than Goverment mandated criteria.
I think F-L-M knew all along that real enthusiasts would dump the stock tune at the first opportunity so it was "detuned" to check the box for the Govt Nannies.
This crap probably goes unnoticed by the majority of Toyota, Nissan, etc. appliance buyers. Not so in this community.
Ms. Denmark
12-12-2013, 12:45 PM
Great point, Charlie! :2thumbs:
Mr. Man
12-12-2013, 12:54 PM
Still noone has answered the OP's original question. "Does anyone know the differences between the Lidio and Mo's tunes?"
I'd be interested as well. We have a Lidio tune and like it but what if anything does Mo do differently with his basic canned tune?
Not interested in Zack, chips or custom tunes in this question.
Bradley G
12-12-2013, 01:28 PM
On Lidios N/A tune ,he kept the converter unlocked til 50+ mph .I am not familiar with Mo's strategy other than I have not heard anything but rave reviews from Mo's customers.
whitey
12-12-2013, 02:34 PM
Still noone has answered the OP's original question. "Does anyone know the differences between the Lidio and Mo's tunes?"
I'd be interested as well. We have a Lidio tune and like it but what if anything does Mo do differently with his basic canned tune?
Not interested in Zack, chips or custom tunes in this question.
I dont think were ever going to get the answer to this, its like asking McDonald's and Burger king what their recipes are so we can see whats in them that makes them so special. Also, somebody could steal their tunes info and sell them on the dtr market<<because lord knows they need 'em:p
sent from my mobile home.
NavySeabee
12-12-2013, 02:49 PM
I dont think were ever going to get the answer to this, its like asking McDonald's and Burger king what their recipes are so we can see whats in them that makes them so special.
I guess this is the best answer. Both sound like great tunes!
This is lideo's tune;
∃! n ∈ ℕ: n+1 <3
This is Mo's tune:
1+1 <3 :lol:
a(0) / 2 + http://www.math.com/tables/lsigma.gif(k=1..http://www.math.com/tables/inf.gif) (a(k) cos kx + b(k) sin kx)
a(k) = 1/PI http://www.math.com/tables/integral.gifhttp://www.math.com/tables/npi-pi.gif f(x) cos kx dx
b(k) = 1/PI http://www.math.com/tables/integral.gifhttp://www.math.com/tables/npi-pi.gif f(x) sin kx dx Regards,
Pat
J-MAN
12-12-2013, 03:15 PM
This is lideo's tune;
∃! n ∈ ℕ: n+1 <3
This is Mo's tune:
1+1 <3 :lol:
a(0) / 2 + http://www.math.com/tables/lsigma.gif(k=1..http://www.math.com/tables/inf.gif) (a(k) cos kx + b(k) sin kx)
a(k) = 1/PI http://www.math.com/tables/integral.gifhttp://www.math.com/tables/npi-pi.gif f(x) cos kx dx
b(k) = 1/PI http://www.math.com/tables/integral.gifhttp://www.math.com/tables/npi-pi.gif f(x) sin kx dx Regards,
Pat
You made little Timmy cry. :bigcry:
Well, little Timmy, don't cry cause Lideo's tune is really the formula for Love. And all those Marauderite's that use Lideo's tune are just expressing their love.
Mo's tune has to do more with birds and bee's and your dad will explain that to you when your a little older.
So long Timmy, be good so Santa will mark you down on his "nice" list.
boatmangc
12-12-2013, 04:31 PM
I bought my car with a Lidio tuned Trilogy
After I popped the motor I took it to Injectded Engineering.
Their tune was better, even the AF ratios were safer, made more safe HP too
Then I took it to Mo's. Best ever.
VMARAUDER
12-12-2013, 04:46 PM
DTR's will be around still ablaze when the Marauder void come about
I dont think were ever going to get the answer to this, its like asking McDonald's and Burger king what their recipes are so we can see whats in them that makes them so special. Also, somebody could steal their tunes info and sell them on the dtr market<<because lord knows they need 'em:p
sent from my mobile home.
71cyclone
12-12-2013, 06:05 PM
Still noone has answered the OP's original question. "Does anyone know the differences between the Lidio and Mo's tunes?"
I'd be interested as well. We have a Lidio tune and like it but what if anything does Mo do differently with his basic canned tune?
Not interested in Zack, chips or custom tunes in this question.
Not to change Channels but, The Reinheart N/A tune will pass emissions in box trim.. and with a 2 degree increase in the first two rpm steps and reset the 1-2 shift 2mph and the 2-3 shift 3mph the car will shift into over drive with light throttle at 45 , with moderate throttle at 65 mph,and with extreme throttle overdrive at 85 and will still pass emissions in maryland ,rear cats were removed X pype installed prior to testing:burnout:the car will run 120 in streight drive also.// the over drive button was pushed ON at 120 and wound up till 142 ,then i backed off [ not tryin to get a ticket ]
Mr. Man
12-13-2013, 11:54 AM
Not to change Channels but, The Reinheart N/A tune will pass emissions in box trim.. and with a 2 degree increase in the first two rpm steps and reset the 1-2 shift 2mph and the 2-3 shift 3mph the car will shift into over drive with light throttle at 45 , with moderate throttle at 65 mph,and with extreme throttle overdrive at 85 and will still pass emissions in maryland ,rear cats were removed X pype installed prior to testing:burnout:the car will run 120 in streight drive also.// the over drive button was pushed ON at 120 and wound up till 142 ,then i backed off [ not tryin to get a ticket ]
How can you get ticket on a race track? ;)
71cyclone
12-13-2013, 04:42 PM
I like the statement Cousin 'LOL' You see my test and tune track is in my own back yard ;Us 301 South -Uppermarlboro M.D. and as you well know from owning a MM it doesn't take long to get up to Warp Drive .. "Remember Dennis did the patrol cars"
OneBADLsE
12-14-2013, 09:03 AM
I like the statement Cousin 'LOL' You see my test and tune track is in my own back yard ;Us 301 South -Uppermarlboro M.D. and as you well know from owning a MM it doesn't take long to get up to Warp Drive .. "Remember Dennis did the patrol cars"
And blew up a hundred others
71cyclone
12-15-2013, 12:18 AM
Roger That Cousin !!>>>>>
Vortech347
12-21-2013, 01:25 PM
Not to change Channels but, The Reinheart N/A tune will pass emissions in box trim.. and with a 2 degree increase in the first two rpm steps and reset the 1-2 shift 2mph and the 2-3 shift 3mph the car will shift into over drive with light throttle at 45 , with moderate throttle at 65 mph,and with extreme throttle overdrive at 85 and will still pass emissions in maryland ,rear cats were removed X pype installed prior to testing:burnout:the car will run 120 in streight drive also.// the over drive button was pushed ON at 120 and wound up till 142 ,then i backed off [ not tryin to get a ticket ]
If its the one I have. No, it won't. I had him send me a 100% factory tune with just a gear change I had to "drive cycle" on then re-test emissions this year. My state when to some hard core OBD-II system and if your car is equipped with something it HAS to be ready. However the tune on my car is pretty old. So he may have adapted things on his new stuff.
You've gotta make sure you TELL him what you need ready to pass. So many states do different things. I'm sure its frustrating as hell for a mail order tuner.
71cyclone
12-22-2013, 07:44 PM
If its the one I have. No, it won't. I had him send me a 100% factory tune with just a gear change I had to "drive cycle" on then re-test emissions this year. My state when to some hard core OBD-II system and if your car is equipped with something it HAS to be ready. However the tune on my car is pretty old. So he may have adapted things on his new stuff.
You've gotta make sure you TELL him what you need ready to pass. So many states do different things. I'm sure its frustrating as hell for a mail order tuner.
you are absolutely right Cousin / I told him , I wanted top end and legal with the 'Sniffers" and the area HL sec. might test it out :cool: . Now this was ordered 2 years ago and was updated on line 6 months ago by SCT . truth be told . I will say ,If i can leave my Classic Lincolns alone i will dump some cash into the MM and Moe's is my first and only Stop I have heard good thing about this shop from other sources !! You see the older you Get the smaller the world becomes
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