I Spun Out in a Tunnel and Wrecked my MM

[Jeronimojc]

This happened to me just a about 2 hours ago. I wrecked my baby!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37 041&stc=1&d=1388733466

The tow truck driver told me they'll likely discard the car. I am guessing it will be difficult to get enough from the insurer to replace it. Any advice out there as to how to deal with the insurer to get a fair deal?

Thanks!

[RubberCtyRauder]

Sorry to hear and see....Hood, fenders, headerpanel can be sourced from 03-05 grand marquis..same with under components i believe..bumper cover will be hardest but there are some aftermarket front covers avail..same with aftermarket headlights, turn and foglights..It looks fixable unless there is more damage out back..If front is only..then find out what buy back amount is if you want to try and fix it...insurance is only going to give market value via kbb range usually..it wont be insured for more unless your policy is written that way and you are paying a premium for that. Don;t necessarily settle for the first offer they give..maybe do some homework and see what other similiar mileage ones are going for ti use as leverage if they start low.

[Guittard22]

Hope your ok and that blows

[Bigdogjim]

Not good, make sure you get checked out and are OK! Keep us posted.

Good luck.

[Jeronimojc]

Thanks for the good wishes. I am okay and very grateful for my health. It does suck to see the car like this though. Don't know what will happen to the car.

[Marauderjack]

Glad you are OK and you MM protected you but how the heck did you do that??:eek: I first thought ICE but saw where you are...DUH!!:shake:

Did something just break??:confused:

[sflrainmaker01]

Glad you are OK and you MM protected you but how the heck did you do that??:eek: I first thought ICE but saw where you are...DUH!!:shake:

Did something just break??:confused:

Yeah, me too. Glad you are ok! Try to save the MM!

[fastblackmerc]

That sucks.

Glad you are OK.

[BlueFusion]

My insurance gave me what my car was worth on www.nadaguides.com

State Farm wouldn't budge from that price....

[Mebot]

Whatever their first offer is, reject it. Ask for more. Do you have a copy of the limited production certificate from Ford? Provide that as well as the build/trim matrix to show the rarity of your vehicle.

[tbone]

I would definitely buy the vehicle back from the insurance company and either rebuild it or part it out. DON'T let them keep it. BIG bucks for the salvage yard.....

[Jeronimojc]

Whatever their first offer is, reject it. Ask for more. Do you have a copy of the limited production certificate from Ford? Provide that as well as the build/trim matrix to show the rarity of your vehicle.

Great idea! I can't remember what I did with the limited production certificate. I'll look for it. I don't know exactly what you mean by the build/trim matrix, can you elaborate?

As far as how this happened... It was a stupid mistake. I wasn't thinking and I punched the gas as I sometimes do just to enjoy the power of the car. The road was slick (wet) and the tires spun... The MM is built strong and protected me well. I didn't feel much at all.

[Mebot]

Great idea! I can't remember what I did with the limited production certificate. I'll look for it. I don't know exactly what you mean by the build/trim matrix, can you elaborate?

Sure, see my attachments below. This is a great matrix to have to show the color/trim breakdown of both the 2003 and 2004 model years. In addition to your limited-production vehicle certificate you can highlight additional rarity (if applicable) of your trim

Also, any recent mechanical work? You should be able to ask for more if you had a recent tune-up and/or mechanical work. I showed receipts for the work on my old MM and was able to get more.

I am sorry for your loss, btw. I know what are you going through and it sucks. I'm glad to hear you are ok. These cars are designed and built with impact/crumple zones so it did it's job in protecting you.

As Tbone said, buy it back from Insurance. The decision to part it out or salvage it will be yours.

[hotford]

Thats and easy fix.......lights grill,fender,header panel, bumper can be repaired,
either way ya go, buy it back and fix it yourself.........

[Mebot]

In addition, when I requested more from my insurance, I provided receipts for work and service on my car and I provided printout from both KBB and NADA that rated a 2003 Mercury Marauder at a higher value.

Going further I also printed out FOR SALE postings for 2003 Mercury Marauder with similar trim, options and mileage (my mileage at the time of my accident was 108k).

The more ammunition you can provide to your insurance, the better. Aim high!

Good luck

[Marauder_Santa]

Great idea! I can't remember what I did with the limited production certificate. I'll look for it. I don't know exactly what you mean by the build/trim matrix, can you elaborate?

As far as how this happened... It was a stupid mistake. I wasn't thinking and I punched the gas as I sometimes do just to enjoy the power of the car. The road was slick (wet) and the tires spun... The MM is built strong and protected me well. I didn't feel much at all.

Sorry to hear this. Do they use the coral sand to make the asphalt? This is what they had to use on Guam and made the wet road like ice.

[a_d_a_m]

Never accept the first offer the insurance company gives you. They are out to protect themselves and will lowball you. I was able to get an extra $2000ish up from the initial offer when I totaled my Grand Marquis. I was persistent and showed the insurance companies cars similar to mine (mileage, condition, options) that were selling retail for way more than they offered.

[Mebot]

Never accept the first offer the insurance company gives you. They are out to protect themselves and will lowball you. I was able to get an extra $2000ish up from the initial offer when I totaled my Grand Marquis. I was persistent and showed the insurance companies cars similar to mine (mileage, condition, options) that were selling retail for way more than they offered.

Exactly

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[jwibbity]

Sorry to hear this. Do they use the coral sand to make the asphalt? This is what they had to use on Guam and made the wet road like ice.

+1 when i was there, every time it rained people were sliding around as if on ice!

[Marauder_Santa]

+1 when i was there, every time it rained people were sliding around as if on ice!

If same as Guam, the coral is used in the asphalt and when it rains the algae or whatever is in the coral comes alive or something and makes the road like ice.

[Jeronimojc]

I don't know what it was, but I think inside the tunnel they paved with concrete. It was slick, but it was foolish of me to tap the gas.

[Mr. Man]

Any damage to the rest of the car? As long as the frame isn't bent (and that's fixable too) I say do what you can to put it back on the road

Glad your OK

[WhatsUpDOHC]

Sorry to hear and glad that you're OK. Really sux.

[Bruce Wayne]

Glad you're OK , fix the MM

[Gixerdevil]

Glad your good. Car can be fixed just dont get in a hurry searching for parts. All you Northies need to send your MM down south for the winter. For safety and to ensure they will be here for future generations.

Gixerdevil
2003 BMM #2700 38K miles
Current : Eaton Swap

[FastMerc]

Glad you are well if you can fix the car it is to rare do it! Sorry to hear of your misshap.

[L.Mark]

Glad you weren't hurt...hope you get your baby back to prime time condition:D

[Vortech347]

Ouch. Take the insurance money and buy another. :) Best part about the accident is YOUR LIFE goes on!

[Motorhead350]

Rev it in neutral next time.

[Jeronimojc]

Thanks again for all the "glad you weren't hurt" thoughts. The adjuster is checking out the car right now, but it is pretty much a conclusion they won't fix it. Unfortunatelly, I am moving in about a month back to the mainland and I won't have time to fix it or part it out. There will be more parts in the market for the local MM owners to pick from.
I'll probably buy another MM in the future.

[Mebot]

Are you still going to try and buy it back from insurance?

[Vortech347]

Are you still going to try and buy it back from insurance?

If he's moving from Hawaii that would be a nightmare paying to move a non-running vehicle.

Best bet is to just make sure your insurance company gives you a good value for it then move on.

[Jeronimojc]

If he's moving from Hawaii that would be a nightmare paying to move a non-running vehicle.

Best bet is to just make sure your insurance company gives you a good value for it then move on.

^^^ Exactly what I am thinking. I did unlock my SCT tuner from the car and removed my recently installed Pioneer head unit (avh-p3400bh) and my JL 6W3V3-4 Subwoofer (re-installed stock). I thought about removing the trunk organizer, spare tire, etc... but where do you draw the line and what is ethical to remove and what isn't.

[lancejlove]

If you do decide to take out the trunk organizer i'd love to take it off your hands



^^^ Exactly what I am thinking. I did unlock my SCT tuner from the car and removed my recently installed Pioneer head unit (avh-p3400bh) and my JL 6W3V3-4 Subwoofer (re-installed stock). I thought about removing the trunk organizer, spare tire, etc... but where do you draw the line and what is ethical to remove and what isn't.

[mnrauder]

Take the seats out before they take it away

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

And another MM goes to the crushers..

[Motorhead350]

WTH is with everyone crashing their Marauders???

This seems to happen in waves.

[Mr. Man]

Before it goes make sure you give A.D.A.M.(member here) the VIN so he can record it in his database.

Get in touch with the other Hawaii guys maybe they'd buy it off you if you bought it back from the insurance people. At least find out where they are going to tow it so the Hawaii guys can pilfer it.

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

WTH is with everyone crashing their Marauders???

This seems to happen in waves.

People get too confident after a while, and forget bumpers are virtually inexistent anymore lol.

[Motorhead350]

Its better to lose the race than lose your life.

[vegasmarauder]

Sorry for the loss, but glad you are OK.

In my dealings with adjusters most let you take any aftermarket stuff you installed or will pay extra if you can show receipts. The general rule is, if it was a factory part it should stay with the car or any factory part can be put on it. In regard to wheels some adjusters have let people take them if they supply steels to roll it around. I doubt seats would be allowed. Most adjusters will know what brings the money at a salvage auction and what doesn't and let you have the useless stuff.

In reality by the time the insurance company pays for the tow, storage and document fees they actually lose money on the actual car.
Buybacks are usually 10-25% of trade-in value even though thats usually more than it will bring at salvage auction, but they have a captive audience who wants the car (you).

In most insurance policies the COMPANY has the final say in value. If you want to insure it for more you should have bought collector insurance they will tell you.

I have a friend who had an Impala SS that was totaled years ago. He worked out with the adjuster to replace the car and when he found one at a dealer they just cut a check to the dealer and he paid taxes and fees. I doubt adjusters are that acomodating anymore since a lot of them are no longer car people.

[Chi Stallion]

Sorry to hear about your MM loss. Let's face it this car isn't safe in any wet weather conditions. I've lost control in all the MM I've owned so many times I don't how the hell I was able to get control of the car going full 360* and dodging medians and oncoming cars in traffic. I've lost alota love for this car and for Ford. I hope Ford gets their top knocked off and goes straight to automotive hell for making people like me and you pay triple the price for discontinued parts. On top of it Ford is always known to take their cheap ass way out. I don't post much and I don't drive my MM anymore like how I used to. This car is only special cause of the hardcore enthusiast that made it to what it is today. You rarely see a Marauder cause they all been crashed and RIP.

[Bluerauder]

Sorry to hear about your MM loss. Let's face it this car isn't safe in any wet weather conditions. I've lost control in all the MM I've owned so many times I don't how the hell I was able to get control of the car going full 360* and dodging medians and oncoming cars in traffic.

I don't necessarily agree with ^^^^^^ this assessment. In 10 years of daily driving with the MM, I've never really had any problem in wet weather. Of course, my car still wears the OEM BFGs front and rear. The handful of times (about 3-4 that I recall in 10 years) that the ass-end has kicked out on me, I attribute to operator error. Half of those incidents were during an 18-month period that I was using the Goodyear RS-D3s. Fortunately, I have been able to recover from those episodes. The worst was when I made a hard turn after a start from a traffic light and hit the 1-2 shift point and a wet-oil mix patch all at the same time. The tail shifted about 12-18 inches; but I was able to recover. I think the TC may have helped a bit. In retrospect, it was a very dumb move on my part due to road conditions.

You may wish to take a closer look at the Cooper Zeon RS3-A tires that you are using. The wet traction reviews on that tire are all over the board with many people giving it a very low wet traction rating. This is exacerbated when the rating was for a car with higher than average horsepower (i.e. a performance car). People with front wheel drive seem to rate them higher in wet conditions.

[Vortech347]

Some peoples RIGHT FOOT is not safe in all conditions. Wouldn't blame the car.

Besides, **** happens. That is what insurance is for.

[Chi Stallion]

You may wish to take a closer look at the Cooper Zeon RS3-A tires that you are using. The wet traction reviews on that tire are all over the board with many people giving it a very low wet traction rating. This is exacerbated when the rating was for a car with higher than average horsepower (i.e. a performance car). People with front wheel drive seem to rate them higher in wet conditions.


It's not actually not that bad at all. I really like the Cooper Zeon RS3A tires a lot. They grip very well and handle way better than the stock BFG they really put them to shame.

It's always gona be bad tires and a heavy right foot in wet weather to cause people to lose control of their MM. It is a RWD after all and nobody should be fast driving fast in rain or snow. 55-65 at the most feels like the safest in the worst road weather conditions.


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[BIGNELSTER]

OUCH! Sorry to hear that and thank God your ok!
Good luck in dealing with the insurance people.
They have no clue that my marauder is priceless to me and many of us, like everyone is saying don't settle for there first offer



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[Jeronimojc]

In my dealings with adjusters most let you take any aftermarket stuff you installed or will pay extra if you can show receipts. The general rule is, if it was a factory part it should stay with the car or any factory part can be put on it. In regard to wheels some adjusters have let people take them if they supply steels to roll it around. I doubt seats would be allowed. Most adjusters will know what brings the money at a salvage auction and what doesn't and let you have the useless stuff.


Thanks, that provides some good guidelines.

Regarding tires, I had new Firestone Firehawk Wide Ovals in the rear. Perhaps they are not as good as others, but I can't blame this on the tires. This was a stupid error on my part. I had gotten too comfortable with punching the gas to "feel the acceleration." This time I did it without even realizing I was doing it. I've learned my lesson.

I have wondered if having traction control would have made a difference. My MM (300A) had no traction control.

[Jeronimojc]

The adjuster called me today. He offered just over $11K. I expected something much lower, so I almost agreed to it. We'll probably reach agreement tomorrow. I also saw a Marauder with 90K miles for $10K. The condition of the car is not as good as mine, which had almost 90K miles.

[8UWITH6]

Take it and run. Put that towards another one.

PS- nothing wrong the the FS Wide Oval AS tires. :) Love mine.

[MOTOWN]

The adjuster called me today. He offered just over $11K. I expected something much lower, so I almost agreed to it. We'll probably reach agreement tomorrow. I also saw a Marauder with 90K miles for $10K. The condition of the car is not as good as mine, which had almost 90K miles.

I would take it as well, but take your time looking for your replacement, wait for the one thats right for you.:banana:

[Mr. Man]

The adjuster called me today. He offered just over $11K. I expected something much lower, so I almost agreed to it. We'll probably reach agreement tomorrow. I also saw a Marauder with 90K miles for $10K. The condition of the car is not as good as mine, which had almost 90K miles.
Surprised it's so much considering the damage couldn't or shouldn't cost anywhere near that payout.

[Jeronimojc]

Damage is more than shown in the pic. Both right side wheels/axles are busted, front frame is bent. Repair would require a certified salvage shop.

By the way, after driving another MM with 4.10s, it became very obvious my tune is very aggressive. I can't imagine that I would have wrecked my car if my car had as mild of a tune as the one I drove today.

[Spectragod]

In most insurance policies the COMPANY has the final say in value. If you want to insure it for more you should have bought collector insurance they will tell you.

I'll toss out the BS flag on this ^^^, YOU have the final say as to what you are willing to take for your car. I unfortunately just went through this with my wife's Trailblazer. Her car was parked on the street, a blind gentleman came along in his car and rear ended her car at approximately 50 MPH, mega damage to the suspension on a 2007 with almost 35k on the clock.

Insurance first wanted to fix it for 7k, which I refused, then they decided to total it, for 14.6k, which I refused, called a week later, they offered 15.7k, a dealer quote, which I refused, I told them to find me one for that price, she told me she would call me back in 20 minutes after doing some "research", 8 minutes later, she called back with a offer of 24.6k, which I obviously accepted.

The bottom line..... prove that you took good care of your car and stand your ground, be ready to dig your heels in and fight for what you paid for with your insurance.

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

I'll toss out the BS flag on this ^^^, YOU have the final say as to what you are willing to take for your car. I unfortunately just went through this with my wife's Trailblazer. Her car was parked on the street, a blind gentleman came along in his car and rear ended her car at approximately 50 MPH, mega damage to the suspension on a 2007 with almost 35k on the clock.

Insurance first wanted to fix it for 7k, which I refused, then they decided to total it, for 14.6k, which I refused, called a week later, they offered 15.7k, a dealer quote, which I refused, I told them to find me one for that price, she told me she would call me back in 20 minutes after doing some "research", 8 minutes later, she called back with a offer of 24.6k, which I obviously accepted.

The bottom line..... prove that you took good care of your car and stand your ground, be ready to dig your heels in and fight for what you paid for with your insurance.

Wow that is crazy! Trying to lowball you that much? Who are the scumbags insuring you?

[Spectragod]

Wow that is crazy! Trying to lowball you that much? Who are the scumbags insuring you?

That was the other drivers State Farm insurance, like a good neighbor...............:rolley es:

[pantheroc]

See if you can contact another owner on the island. They may take over part out or may want salvage parts.

[Vortech347]

11k isn't bad. Almost makes me want to put a helmet on and crash mine into a tree. I doubt I could get that for my car selling it private.

We made well over fair market when worked with the insurance company on our 01' Cobra.

[Stranger in the Black Sedan]

Take it. That is a very good offer.

[cer0413]

This happened to me just a about 2 hours ago. I wrecked my baby!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37 041&stc=1&d=1388733466

The tow truck driver told me they'll likely discard the car. I am guessing it will be difficult to get enough from the insurer to replace it. Any advice out there as to how to deal with the insurer to get a fair deal?

Thanks!
damn....... glad ur okay

[whitey]

I'll toss out the BS flag on this ^^^, YOU have the final say as to what you are willing to take for your car. I unfortunately just went through this with my wife's Trailblazer. Her car was parked on the street, a blind gentleman came along in his car and rear ended her car at approximately 50 MPH, mega damage to the suspension on a 2007 with almost 35k on the clock.

Insurance first wanted to fix it for 7k, which I refused, then they decided to total it, for 14.6k, which I refused, called a week later, they offered 15.7k, a dealer quote, which I refused, I told them to find me one for that price, she told me she would call me back in 20 minutes after doing some "research", 8 minutes later, she called back with a offer of 24.6k, which I obviously accepted.

The bottom line..... prove that you took good care of your car and stand your ground, be ready to dig your heels in and fight for what you paid for with your insurance.

But there in lies the problem, he totalled it, not another driver. When you total your car, the ball is in their court, when another driver tottales your car, the ball is in your court, they're happy you didn't sue them for injuries and such.

[Spectragod]

But there in lies the problem, he totalled it, not another driver. When you total your car, the ball is in their court, when another driver tottales your car, the ball is in your court, they're happy you didn't sue them for injuries and such.

Very true, mine was unoccupied when hit, so no injuries, just a pest of an owner...... I think they just wanted me to "go away", go figure....:rolleyes:

I would still fight for maximum value, if you have had your policy in effect for some time, that will give you some leverage, as can having a "good" relationship with your insurance agent. In my case, I played every card I had.

[Ninoblack1]

Sorry to hear about this. Glad you made it through the wreck

[vegasmarauder]

Yea, i should have clarified my post. When you are at fault you lose a lot of leverage. and writen into every policy is the option that if you both disagree you can go to arbitration. If the other driver is at fault they really dont want to do that because it will cost them 5K just to start the process and as stated before you can always come back at tehm for injuries, etc.

You have an uphill fight and you came out good, but there are countless others who didn't do as well. You have a good relationship with your company and are a long term customer it helps. Not everyone does as well.

[Jeronimojc]

The insurer adjuster went up on his offer to $12K. I turned him down. This could backfire on me, but hopefully not. I've been learning some things about how things work and I feel I have the leverage. Their market value analysis was/is flawed and I learned some things about the state law that are on my side. We'll see where things go. Thanks to all of those who advised me on not taking the first offer.

[gpfarrell]

It's fun to win, but greed... even when against an insurance company... rarely ends well.

[JoeBoomz]

The insurer adjuster went up on his offer to $12K. I turned him down. This could backfire on me, but hopefully not. I've been learning some things about how things work and I feel I have the leverage. Their market value analysis was/is flawed and I learned some things about the state law that are on my side. We'll see where things go. Thanks to all of those who advised me on not taking the first offer.

We pay insurance so that they can "make things right" again when the worst happens. How much will that cost to you to replace the car you have, exactly with all the features and benefits the same?

Years ago my wife wrote off our mint-condition 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited (other driver at fault). Their initial offer was 7500. When I was done with them, we had settled for 12500. In our eyes, they made things right again at that price. We had paid 13,200 for the Jeep a year prior.

[Jeronimojc]

It's fun to win, but greed... even when against an insurance company... rarely ends well.

I do appreciate your words. Very spot on. It is fun to win and to some extent this is a bit of a game. As I go along, I guard my heart against greed. Once the insurer corrects their flawed market value analysis, or provides a reasonable justification, then we'll have a reasonable baseline to establish the correct price. So, to a great extent, this is about doing things right.

I elaborate below possibly for the benefit of others who may find themselves in a similar position:
In rating the condition of the interior, the adjuster used a rating for which the guideline is "seats are torn, soiled, faded..." My seats look new! Same thing happened with the engine which the report elludes to it having "excessive dirt and grease, some leaks, fading fluids..." yet, I know the adjuster never looked at the engine, and so on. The insurer's own guidelines and possibly the law requires them to use comparable vehicles (model, condition and mileage) to determine the cash value. My car had 90K miles in it, one of the comparables had 150K miles!

State law requires the insurer to provide for the taxes of the assessed value of the vehicle and title and registration fees. My insurer neglected all of these in its analysis. Of much more importance, the law requires the insurer to use RETAIL "local market values." The insurer used values from thousands of miles away and does not recognize the expense of having to ship one of those cars here. I am okay ignoring this provided they correct the misrepresentations noted above.

[gpfarrell]

Good points!

Also remember that an insurance company employee could stumble over this thread with the help of most any search engine. Be careful which cards you flash to the world.

[Vortech347]

12k? now I'm totally crashing my car into a tree. Where is my helmet.

[Mebot]

Dibs on the floor mats

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[Jeronimojc]

We settled today for $12,800. My MM is going for auction. Thanks again to all of those who helped me by contributing your thoughts.

[JoeBoomz]

That's good, I hope you can make things like they were before the accident.

[TAKEDOWN]

Nice.... Is there a future MARAUDER involved?

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Nice.... Is a future there MARAUDER involved?

Lol, I like how consistent your way of saying MARAUDER has been for like 10 years.
:beer:

[Jeronimojc]

Nice.... Is a future there MARAUDER involved?

I am definitely planning on getting another Marauder. I've seen/driven three blacks, but my heart is on a SB. I am actually sending a deposit on one tomorrow.

[Mebot]

Lol, I like how consistent your way of saying MARAUDER has been for like 10 years.
:beer:

Agreed me too. It's like I don't even have to see the screen name because I know it's Takedown lol

[Mebot]

I am definitely planning on getting another Marauder. I've seen/driven three blacks, but my heart is on a SB. I am actually sending a deposit on one tomorrow.

Sweet! Post up pictures when you can!

[TAKEDOWN]

Lol at chitown & Mebot/nu nrg...


I am definitely planning on getting another Marauder. I've seen/driven three blacks, but my heart is on a SB. I am actually sending a deposit on one tomorrow.

That's why I NOW have both colors... or should I say MARAUDER & MARAUDER

I hope everything works out in the end for you, hope to visit the island soon.

[Jeronimojc]

So I showed my girls (wife and two daughters) pictures of the SB I am planning to buy. They ganged up on me and said they want a black MM! They think SB are for old men. I think SB are cool! Are my girls onto something though? Not that I am afraid of being considered an old man (42), but I guess I care about what the girls in my life think.

By the way, I was looking for a thread titled something along the lines of Silver Vs. Black to see what has been said before and... ready for this? Silver isn't just cooler, it is actually 40 degrees cooler!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showpost.php?p=30630&postcount=22

[Mebot]

Uh oh anther black vs silver debate is coming on!

Quick confuse everyone and buy a blue or red instead!

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[jparrie]

So I showed my girls (wife and two daughters) pictures of the SB I am planning to buy. They ganged up on me and said they want a black MM! They think SB are for old men. I think SB are cool! Are my girls onto something though? Not that I am afraid of being considered an old man (42), but I guess I care about what the girls in my life think.

By the way, I was looking for a thread titled something along the lines of Silver Vs. Black to see what has been said before and... ready for this? Silver isn't just cooler, it is actually 40 degrees cooler!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showpost.php?p=30630&postcount=22

I would go for the silver, after 10 years of trying to keep a black one looking sharp. Of course they could commit to the wash / wax duties if they feel that strongly about it :)

[SID210SA]

I second that....the Silver is so much more forgiving when it comes to being dirty..and the color will grow on the girls....i know my girls love the SB so much better than any of the other colors....and they have seen and been in all four colors.

[Marauderjack]

Repeat after me......SB MARAUDERS ARE THE FASTEST!!:bows::beer::D

[MOTOWN]

Repeat after me......SB MARAUDERS ARE THE FASTEST!!:bows::beer::D

MVP post of the day! :lol::beer:

[RubberCtyRauder]

MVP post of the day! :lol::beer:
Says the man who only ever gets to see his SB driven on the dyno by Jeff!!!!:lol: Just kiddin Motown...One day the bugs will be worked out and it'll thunder in Dallas, GA

[guspech750]

Repeat after me......SB MARAUDERS ARE THE FASTEST!!:bows::beer::D

Boooooooooooooooooooo.

Boooooooooooooooooooo.


:(


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DTR + 4.10's + Eaton swap = Wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom

[gdsqdcr]

Well, I am biased, but I would buy a blue.

As for a black or a silver ... I would buy the silver. A black Marauder ... we all have seen them. A Silver, well it stands out. It is different. I had a 04 SB before my current 03DPB. Black was actually my last choice of colors, just because there were so many of them compared to the other colors.

Anthony

[MOTOWN]

Says the man who only ever gets to see his SB driven on the dyno by Jeff!!!!:lol: Just kiddin Motown...One day the bugs will be worked out and it'll thunder in Dallas, GA

OOOOUUCH! LMAO:lol:, actually i just got off the phone with Precision Turbo and Engine, and they issued an RMA # for the intercooler, one this is corrected we should see some numbers!

[Jeronimojc]

Well, I am biased, but I would buy a blue.

As for a black or a silver ... I would buy the silver. A black Marauder ... we all have seen them. A Silver, well it stands out. It is different.

Anthony

Silver it is! :burnout:

[Marauderjack]

Silver it is! :burnout:


Be warned "Young Grasshopper" it will be.....:burnout:

You will be very happy....GOOD LUCK especially in tunnels!!:eek::beer:

[TP Derrick D]

I got a black one because it looked cool, then I wanted a silver to match my silver Lightning. Then I totaled my black and I was stuck trying to find another Marauder. I thought about it and decided on another black one but still wanted a silver. During my internet search I could not find any nice ones near me and when I did it was black so I went and got it. Now I'm back to wanting a silver to match my truck. Am I an old man like in the previous post stated by the little girls? I guess maybe so, 33 & 29 year old daughters and 3 grand kids might put me in that category but for some reason I want silver to match my truck but also thought about a silver Lincoln Mark VIII to have a different car.

[Jeronimojc]

I got a black one because it looked cool, then I wanted a silver... Then I totaled... decided on another black one but still wanted a silver. Now I'm back to wanting a silver... ...for some reason I want silver...

I know the feeling all too well. After having switched and gone thru the process I would recommend you keep an eye out for the right silver (they are hard to find). Buy it when you find it and then sell your black (if you have to).

:beer:

[TP Derrick D]

I know the feeling all too well. After having switched and gone thru the process I would recommend you keep an eye out for the right silver (they are hard to find). Buy it when you find it and then sell your black (if you have to).

:beer:

Problem is I got a low 57,000 mile Eaton swapped black one that was over $8,000 to have done and don't want to lose money selling it for a N/A silver. I'd like to have both, my black and a silver. Maybe one will pop up that needs some TLC, they are getting up there in age and 175,000 miles and up ones should be more affordable to buy as a "project"

[Jeronimojc]

Problem is I got a low 57,000 mile Eaton swapped black one that was over $8,000 to have done and don't want to lose money selling it for a N/A silver. I'd like to have both, my black and a silver. Maybe one will pop up that needs some TLC, they are getting up there in age and 175,000 miles and up ones should be more affordable to buy as a "project"

I see your dilema and I like your solution :cool:. Keep an eye out for a project SB.

[Melon]

Problem is I got a low 57,000 mile Eaton swapped black one that was over $8,000 to have done and don't want to lose money selling it for a N/A silver. I'd like to have both, my black and a silver. Maybe one will pop up that needs some TLC, they are getting up there in age and 175,000 miles and up ones should be more affordable to buy as a "project"

I'd give you 8 grand for yours :D

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who changed color preferences. I wanted black, but silver grew on me and would like to find one instead. But honestly, I'll probably end up with the best Marauder I can within reasonable distance to me.

[TP Derrick D]

I'd give you 8 grand for yours :D

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who changed color preferences. I wanted black, but silver grew on me and would like to find one instead. But honestly, I'll probably end up with the best Marauder I can within reasonable distance to me.

$8,000? at least $8,000.99...The 1st I could find within a reasonable distance (225 miles) is how I decided to get my current one. It was first low mile , nicest one I could find and it was traded back in at the Ford dealer it was serviced its entire life. Salesman was telling me that and I'm thinking "yeah right, sales pitch" but I bought it anyway after I talked them down several $100. I got the car home and started going through it and man, that salesman was telling the truth. In the glovebox was over 10 years of paperwork from the service department, Everything from new battery to tires to full complete service. So I feel I hit jackpot with it, being a 1 owner middle aged people car , along with all service records, low 55,000 miles, fairly close at a Ford dealer. I'm not complaining...:D at ALL!!

[Melon]

Heck, I'd even go 8100 :)

I don't expect to get that lucky when I get mine. I'm hoping for good shape and around 100k miles for reasonable money. And if I'm real lucky, within 250 miles.