BFG tires rear size finally gone?

[88LTDCV351]

I know that some hate the BFGs, but for those of us that found them to be a good tire, I noticed the rear size are on closeout at TireRack now. Guess they are finally going away as TireRack was one of the last places I was able to find that carried the BFG rear size for the MM.

[tbone]

That's a really good question.

[VMARAUDER]

I think they run the tire at certain intervals and then close them out til the next run

[tbone]

I think they run the tire at certain intervals and then close them out til the next run

That was the deal a few years ago when they made the bad run. But I wonder if they are finally going to stop making them.

[VMARAUDER]

Hey tbone what's happening and all that.

When I needed rear tires I call BIG and they gave me a number for my tire dealer to call and I got rear tires in 2012. Last year they had a run of the rears and I bought 2 at that price on line
So we will see what goes

[tbone]

I waited 9 months the last time and was the first to get a set that were stamped wrong. I'll probably get a set of Coopers next time. I just wish the fronts would wear out at the same time as the rears. It's always one pair or the other that are worn out and I want a matching set.

[Mr. Man]

I got sick of the games BFG played with our tires and went with Nitto Motivos. I'm satisfied so far. BFG can go sit and spin.

[tbone]

I like the tread pattern. What's the closest they make to the rear size we need? Are they speed rated? I know I can look it up, but you probably know off the top of your head and I'm lazy at the moment.

http://tirereviewsandratings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Nitto-Motivo-TirHalf.png (http://tirereviewsandratings.com/nitto-motivo-review-rating/)

[88LTDCV351]

The last time I bought rear tires from TireRack it didn't say "Closeout". It said out of stock or something and I had to wait a number of months until the next tire run. So me thinks they are going bye bye this time.

[Mr. Man]

I like the tread pattern. What's the closest they make to the rear size we need?

http://tirereviewsandratings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Nitto-Motivo-TirHalf.png (http://tirereviewsandratings.com/nitto-motivo-review-rating/)They make stock sizes. I ordered them from Discount Tire Direct .com. Price was competitive and they came quick.

[tbone]

I looked them up on Discount tire. Exactly the right specs. When did they come out with these?

[FastMerc]

I bought a full set of Coopers and I am happy with them. :)

[Mr. Man]

I looked them up on Discount tire. Exactly the right specs. When did they come out with these?
Couple years ago.

[tbone]

Wow. Did not know that. I've been sticking with the blem BFG's.

[tbone]

I bought a full set of Coopers and I am happy with them. :)


Someone should do a comparo Coopers vs. Nittos.

[tbone]

Not sure which tread pattern I like better.

http://ca.coopertire.com/CooperTiresConsumer/media/TireImages/Tread/large-tread/CooperZeonRS3-A-adj.jpg?width=500&height=343&ext=.jpg (http://ca.coopertire.com/Tires/Performance/ZEON-RS3-A.aspx)

Nitto

http://tirereviewsandratings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Nitto-Motivo-TirHalf.png (http://tirereviewsandratings.com/nitto-motivo-review-rating/)

[VMARAUDER]

The last time I bought rear tires from TireRack it didn't say "Closeout". It said out of stock or something and I had to wait a number of months until the next tire run. So me thinks they are going bye bye this time.

As long as it does not say "discontinued" I think they will manufactured

[FastMerc]

Not sure which tread pattern I like better.

http://ca.coopertire.com/CooperTiresConsumer/media/TireImages/Tread/large-tread/CooperZeonRS3-A-adj.jpg?width=500&height=343&ext=.jpg (http://ca.coopertire.com/Tires/Performance/ZEON-RS3-A.aspx)

Nitto

http://tirereviewsandratings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Nitto-Motivo-TirHalf.png (http://tirereviewsandratings.com/nitto-motivo-review-rating/)
You buy a tire for its tread pattern! When your smoking them it doesn't show lol. I had the Coopers on a road course, drag strip and Atlanta speed way, plus over all driving they are great. My opinion!

[tbone]

You buy a tire for its tread pattern! When your smoking them it doesn't show lol. I had the Coopers on a road course, drag strip and Atlanta speed way, plus over all driving they are great. My opinion!

No, I don't buy a tire only for it's tread pattern. But it is important to me. There are some really fugly tires out there that I would never mount on my car no matter how great they are. I just spent the last half hour researching specs.....

Anyway, it looks like the Coopers don't have a Z rating, so I would go for the Nitto's over them.

[RubberCtyRauder]

No, I don't buy a tire only for it's tread pattern. But it is important to me. There are some really fugly tires out there that I would never mount on my car no matter how great they are. I just spent the last half hour researching specs.....

Anyway, it looks like the Coopers don't have a Z rating, so I would go for the Nitto's over them.


W rating is replacing the Z rating...Z rating was up to 149mph.. The Cooper's have a W rating which up to 168 mph

[sflrainmaker01]

No, I don't buy a tire only for it's tread pattern. But it is important to me. There are some really fugly tires out there that I would never mount on my car no matter how great they are. I just spent the last half hour researching specs.....

Anyway, it looks like the Coopers don't have a Z rating, so I would go for the Nitto's over them.

I agree. I like the Nitto 555's in the 265 50 18 size (still deciding on whether or not to try to put the 295's on stock rims). I know the Nitto 555 is not the preferred tire up North.

[tbone]

W rating is replacing the Z rating...Z rating was up to 149mph.. The Cooper's have a W rating which up to 168 mph

The Coopers I saw didn't have a W or a Z before the R so I assumed they weren't speed rated.

[RubberCtyRauder]

I can understand not seeing the W or Z in the tire size like we are accustomed to.

Here is a page from a tire shop I found online..they list the service rating after the size and it gives the W rating range in the box next to it.


http://www.performanceplustire.com/tires-for-sale/cooper-tire/zeon-rs3-a

Speed rating chart from discountire

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/brochure/tire/tireSpeedrating.jsp

[tbone]

Good info. Thanks.

I think I'm leaning towards the Nittos. They have some really good write ups and I simply like the way they look better.

[RubberCtyRauder]

Nittos are a good choice as well..I like my Coopers..and got em for $600 for all 4 so I went that route..I was looking at Nitto 555..but used the savings to spend elsewhere........Thanks to a couple members here who spread the mod virus:lol:

[L.Mark]

No, I don't buy a tire only for it's tread pattern. But it is important to me. There are some really fugly tires out there that I would never mount on my car no matter how great they are. I just spent the last half hour researching specs.....

Anyway, it looks like the Coopers don't have a Z rating, so I would go for the Nitto's over them.

I do the same thing, tread patterns is definitely factored in...

[Mr. Man]

I believe the Motivos have a W rating and some may have a Y but w/o taking the time to research I'm relying on memory. I think if you look closely at the specs page on the Nitto web page it explains what has what.

[tbone]

I'm going with the Nitto 255/55R18 rears. My rear tires are nearly bald AGAIN and I go nowhere in the snow. The fronts I'll do in the spring as there is plenty of tread left. Goodbye BFG. You screwed people for too long now with availbility of your tires.

[fastblackmerc]

I like Hankooks.

[lifespeed]

. . .still deciding on whether or not to try to put the 295's on stock rims

No. The sidewall should be near-vertical to work properly. As with many things, there is no cheap or easy way to do it correctly. There is only the right way - widen the wheels.

[MustangMarauder]

You can still buy the BLEMS that were stamped "this side in" on the wrong side.I've recently seen them on eBay.2 for $280 shipped...

[vegasmarauder]

A few years ago when the BFGs were getting hard to come by my friend that manages a tire store said on the BFGs they make a run 2 or 3 weeks a year DEPENDING on the number of pending orders. So, as less and less people put up with waiting for them to make them, the demand goes down and eventually they will be discontined. There is no set schedule as to when they make a run, as more popular tires get run first, these are done when the line is slow.

By the way, we found the same size BFG on the new Camaro, but when he checked the specs the weight limit was less so he did not reccomend it for my car.

I went with Nittos. They are smoother, quieter and less vibration at triple digit speeds. The new BFGs we put on the front of one of the other MMs went out of round in 18 months and made it sound like a bad front hub bearing. After that, the other front one went out of round 2 months later. I lost confidence in BFG after that.

I will continue to use the Nittos.

[lifespeed]

A few years ago when the BFGs were getting hard to come by my friend that manages a tire store said on the BFGs they make a run 2 or 3 weeks a year DEPENDING on the number of pending orders. So, as less and less people put up with waiting for them to make them, the demand goes down and eventually they will be discontined. There is no set schedule as to when they make a run, as more popular tires get run first, these are done when the line is slow.

Sounds about right. They are torpedoing their own sales, yet somehow I don't think they care.

It is too bad, as I have found them be a good performing option. And we sure need tire options for these cars.

[tbone]

No. The sidewall should be near-vertical to work properly. As with many things, there is no cheap or easy way to do it correctly. There is only the right way - widen the wheels.

Any experience/opinion with the 255's vs 245's?

[tbone]

I went ahead and ordered the fronts too. Anyone for some BFG stock front tires that are 14 months old and with 6200 miles on them?

[tbone]

You can still buy the BLEMS that were stamped "this side in" on the wrong side.I've recently seen them on eBay.2 for $280 shipped...


Hmmmm.....Musclemerc sells them and said his source was exhausted.....

Anyway, time to move on to new technology. I'm pumped to try the Nittos.

[lifespeed]

Any experience/opinion with the 255's vs 245's?

I once ran Yokohoma Advan 255/55-18 on the rear. The tires weren't good (apparently "SUV" tires as many 255s are), but the sidewall did not appear terribly distorted.

I definitely would not go more than one size larger in width. Personally, I stick with the 245s as I believe allowing the sidewall to work optimally results in the best handling. But you only have so many choices with these cars.

[tbone]

I was thinking wider = more traction for the dragstrip. (Supercharger coming soon.)

Plus wider looks cool.

[sflrainmaker01]

I was thinking wider = more traction for the dragstrip. (Supercharger coming soon.)

Plus wider looks cool.

Try the 265 50's. They are very similiar to the stock rear size but wider. :burnout:

[lifespeed]

I was thinking wider = more traction for the dragstrip. (Supercharger coming soon.)
Plus wider looks cool.

Sure, up to a point and there is always the cool factor. I think tires too wide for the rim don't keep the tread as flat on the track either. You can cheat up to a point with wider tires only, but to really go wider you need wider rims.

And then on the front if you mess with the wheels you have to consider offset and maintaining a scrub radius close to zero.

[tbone]

I figured 10mm wider should be ok with stock wheels and not look stupid or mess up the performance factor.

[Mr. Man]

I figured 10mm wider should be ok with stock wheels and not look stupid or mess up the performance factor.

Many many folks moved into 255's when the 245's were even less available than now. You should have no issues as long as you stick with a similar weight rating as the OEM's, 103 on the rear and 97 on the front. :)

[tbone]

They are 109 and 101.

[Mr. Man]

They are 109 and 101.

Sorry I'm lost now. Are you talking about the 555's or the Motivos? If the Motivos I haven't noticed a difference over the 103 BFG's as far as weight goes.

In my opinion the Motivos are definitely a step or two up from the KDWS'. I have driven a few members' cars who run the 555's and they handle well but being someone else's car I really never 'tested' the limits. :cool:

[lifespeed]

I have driven a few members' cars who run the 555's and they handle well but being someone else's car I really never 'tested' the limits. :cool:

LOL, I hardly ever test the limits of my own car! But you have to do it or you'll never know you have the right tires or if the understeer/oversteer balance is correct.

[Mr. Man]

Big ass parking lot usually does the trick ^^^^^

[tbone]

Sorry I'm lost now. Are you talking about the 555's or the Motivos? If the Motivos I haven't noticed a difference over the 103 BFG's as far as weight goes.

In my opinion the Motivos are definitely a step or two up from the KDWS'. I have driven a few members' cars who run the 555's and they handle well but being someone else's car I really never 'tested' the limits. :cool:


The Motivos.

[Ken]

I bought a full set of Coopers and I am happy with them. :)And I'm still busy burning the rubber off the old ones! :burnout::burnout: :D:D

[Jkmarauder]

I just got all season coopers and they are sweet and they look good too I've had firestones and they are good too but coopers are meatier and they supposedly last longer

[lifespeed]

I'm not too thrilled with the Firestone's cornering limits. They slide pretty easy.

[mrjones]

Damn, on closeout for $192? I never paid that much for one tire. The original tires were great handling, but only if you liked a bald center tread at 15K miles. I've gone to the 255/55 in a Yokohama and I love those. The extra half inch of height takes a bit of the sting out of the 4.10s now that gas is $STUPID/gallon.

[Mr. Man]

Damn, on closeout for $192? I never paid that much for one tire. The original tires were great handling, but only if you liked a bald center tread at 15K miles. I've gone to the 255/55 in a Yokohama and I love those. The extra half inch of height takes a bit of the sting out of the 4.10s now that gas is $STUPID/gallon.
Yokohama what?

[tbone]

Damn, on closeout for $192? I never paid that much for one tire. The original tires were great handling, but only if you liked a bald center tread at 15K miles. I've gone to the 255/55 in a Yokohama and I love those. The extra half inch of height takes a bit of the sting out of the 4.10s now that gas is $STUPID/gallon.

The main reason I am switching to Nitto's is the wear problem. SO freaking annoying.......

[mrjones]

Yokohama what?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=AVID+ENVigor+%28H-+or+V-Speed+Rated%29

This is what I put on the Marauder in a 235/55 front and a 255/55 rear. Handling is probably not 100% of what it would do with the KDWS, but it's very good. Ride and noise are better than the KDWS and the price was very good at Discount. They look great on the car too.

[1Marauder]

i heard Michelin came out with our rear size recently...

[Brent]

I got OEM back tires from tire rack "Close out" last week. Their website still lists them. I like the tires, but do not get many miles out of them. Running 32psi rather than the 35 recommended did give lesswear in center. 21,000 and still thin tread left in center. Most stores in my area do not carry the size for our rear tires.

Good luck finding them. Plan ahead if possible.

Brent in GA
04 DTR friend of fast

[88LTDCV351]

I got OEM back tires from tire rack "Close out" last week. Their website still lists them. I like the tires, but do not get many miles out of them. Running 32psi rather than the 35 recommended did give lesswear in center. 21,000 and still thin tread left in center. Most stores in my area do not carry the size for our rear tires.

Good luck finding them. Plan ahead if possible.

Brent in GA
04 DTR friend of fast

I remember when I would buy them at America Tire and Costco. Only place I see now is Tire Rack. Funny, when I first posted this thread, rear tires were closeout at $184 a tire. Now they are like $192.

[88LTDCV351]

Looks like front original tires are discontinued now too. I thought that size was shared with other vehicles?

[88LTDCV351]

Well, lol, after finally getting through my last hoarded supply of BFGs, finally moving on to another brand of tire. Trying General Tire since they are made in USA. The BFGs were starting to have small cracks as they were getting near the end of their life. I'm sure I was the last or one of the last, lol.

[FW_Linc/Merc]

The last set of BFG's I bought last year were made in Indonesia from a US design. They are NOT the same quality as the US made BFG's. I switched to Continental's. Similar tread pattern if that matters, smooth sidewall like the original BFG's, better treadwear than BFG's, quiet, speed rating options. Shopping around they were less than $200 each in November.

[QuickSilver]

I think I will try a pair of Nokian WRG4 All Weather 245/5518 103W on the rear.... they are super cheap - around 200 a pair

right now i have centara Vanti hp 235/50Zr18 101W XL on the front... very cheap.. will probably wear out fast, but for the price...(maybe worth it). around 200 a pair

Just thought i would try to save some $$

[SilverPhoenix]

I've been on Coopers since 2015, but this time around I just didn't want to spend $209 EACH for new rears, so I went with Falkens this time around for $45 cheaper per tire. It's been about a month and so far no issues.