leaving my car N/A explained

[chief455]

I've started some threads to learn what mods work well on our Marauders.
Members have been very helpful with replies and parts locating.
With good reason, every thread gets several prompts to install forced induction first, to save time and money trying to get FAST with external bolt ons and a stock long block.
To undersand my goal with Marauder, I'll post that I have owned and built forced induction street cars. I've learned expensive lessons on what forced induction requires pertaining to additonal modifications to perform safely and reliably. I have a fast supercharged street car that I enjoy.
I'm still working on it, so one is enough.
See other toy here v v v v v v
http://youtu.be/QDQ2fLuEwog

If my situation changes, and a fast Marauder is the desired result - I will start a forced indution build, or buy a car already built and proven to perform.
Until and if then, my Mauader is an awesome car, intetionally being left simple and easy to maintain and enjoy as a street only car on a budget.
Please be patient as I read and ask questions....
Thanks for all the help in my leaning curve:beer:

[guspech750]

Owning a Marauder = Winning. N/A or F/I.


Sent from The White House on taxpayers dimes.

DTR + 4.10's + Eaton swap = Wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom

[champ1173]

I've started some threads to learn what mods work well on our Marauders.
Members have been very helpful with replies and parts locating.
With good reason, every thread gets several prompts to install forced induction first, to save time and money trying to get FAST with external bolt ons and a stock long block.
To undersand my goal with Marauder, I'll post that I have owned and built forced induction street cars. I've learned expensive lessons on what forced induction requires pertaining to additonal modifications to perform safely and reliably. I have a fast supercharged street car that I enjoy.
I'm still working on it, so one is enough.
See other toy here v v v v v v
http://youtu.be/QDQ2fLuEwog

If my situation changes, and a fast Marauder is the desired result - I will start a forced indution build, or buy a car already built and proven to perform.
Until and if then, my Mauader is an awesome car, intetionally being left simple and easy to maintain and enjoy as a street only car on a budget.
Please be patient as I read and ask questions....
Thanks for all the help in my leaning curve:beer:
I hear ya brother! I think it would be cool to have a supercharger myself, but it's a lot a money, and something I don't see in the near future. The Marauder is a rare car, that's got potential to be faster. I've caught the modding bug! There's plenty to do to make it go faster, sound better, and still be reliable. People awe at mine all the time, and that makes me happy. I put mods on when I can. It'll never be the fastest Marauder, and I don't want it to be. I'm constantly asking questions on here, and everyone seems to actually wanna help! And now I'm rambling..

[CWright]

I've started some threads to learn what mods work well on our Marauders.
Members have been very helpful with replies and parts locating.
With good reason, every thread gets several prompts to install forced induction first, to save time and money trying to get FAST with external bolt ons and a stock long block.
To undersand my goal with Marauder, I'll post that I have owned and built forced induction street cars. I've learned expensive lessons on what forced induction requires pertaining to additonal modifications to perform safely and reliably. I have a fast supercharged street car that I enjoy.
I'm still working on it, so one is enough.
See other toy here v v v v v v
http://youtu.be/QDQ2fLuEwog

If my situation changes, and a fast Marauder is the desired result - I will start a forced indution build, or buy a car already built and proven to perform.
Until and if then, my Mauader is an awesome car, intetionally being left simple and easy to maintain and enjoy as a street only car on a budget.
Please be patient as I read and ask questions....
Thanks for all the help in my leaning curve:beer:


I was the exact same way when I bought mine in 2008. My plans were to keep it bone stock. Needless to say my plans got a little altered. :D This is definitely a unique car and each of us have chosen a route that makes us happy. It's been a marathon and not a sprint. Enjoy your ride and mod it to where you're satisfied. The people out here are great for knowledge and can answer just about any question you'll have. :beer:

[Spectragod]

I've started some threads to learn what mods work well on our Marauders.
Members have been very helpful with replies and parts locating.
With good reason, every thread gets several prompts to install forced induction first, to save time and money trying to get FAST with external bolt ons and a stock long block.
To undersand my goal with Marauder, I'll post that I have owned and built forced induction street cars. I've learned expensive lessons on what forced induction requires pertaining to additonal modifications to perform safely and reliably. I have a fast supercharged street car that I enjoy.
I'm still working on it, so one is enough.
See other toy here v v v v v v
http://youtu.be/QDQ2fLuEwog

If my situation changes, and a fast Marauder is the desired result - I will start a forced indution build, or buy a car already built and proven to perform.
Until and if then, my Mauader is an awesome car, intetionally being left simple and easy to maintain and enjoy as a street only car on a budget.
Please be patient as I read and ask questions....
Thanks for all the help in my leaning curve:beer:

Everything I have ever bought, I planned on leaving stock, my first mod on the Marauder was a twin screw, it quickly went down hill (as did my bank account) after that. I myself have never been happy with having the "norm", and based on your TA, your not either. It will only be a matter of time until you can't resist it any longer, my will power was low, I only had mine 3 months before I ordered the TS.


Owning a Marauder = Winning. N/A or F/I.



^^^^^^TRUTH^^^^^^

[Zack]

You will learn an eaton swap or homemade Centri kit is cheaper than all the NA mods needed to break 13.5.
I predict you will cave eventually :D

[chief455]

Everything I have ever bought, I planned on leaving stock, my first mod on the Marauder was a twin screw, it quickly went down hill (as did my bank account) after that. I myself have never been happy with having the "norm", and based on your TA, your not either. It will only be a matter of time until you can't resist it any longer, my will power was low, I only had mine 3 months before I ordered the TS.


Darren, normally you would be right! But the wallet just won't even consider FI, and the T/A became a weekend toy I need my big boy pants on to even go for a ride. Its bad ass, but was more fun to drive with heads/cam/convertor in the reliable 12 second range.
Marauder will get enough bolt on's to be improved and still easy to drive.
I have a disability, so driving high powerd street cas is getting less tempting as I age. More fun in a unique, long driving cruiser with some snot - I wont flip my decision.

If a faster than high 13 sec MM becomes a need/want, I'll start over - not add bad money atop of good, solid daily driver..I'll buy one FI already done.

My cuerrent T/A - it is in the garage covered up too much to justify going that route again. it's radical to have tires break loose at 60mph and knowing any fuel starvation will detonate that grenade. I tuned it with conservative spark tables to avoid knocking, and a rich A/F ratio to keep cylinder temps down.
I have a boost actiated meth injection kit to install, but have'nt needed it since taking timing out - and driving the car less.
I get why tons of MM owners go FI, but it's late in the hobby for me, I'm winding down after 30+ years.
:beer:

[chief455]

You will learn an eaton swap or homemade Centri kit is cheaper than all the NA mods needed to break 13.5.
I predict you will cave eventually :D
LOL - God, I hope you're wrong!!!
I'm too old for this crap :help:

[sflrainmaker01]

I have never owned a supercharged car. When I had my 91 Mark 7 LSC, I did every bolt on plus a custom exhaust and headers in preparation for a KB SC, but other things eventually got in the way. So, now, it has become a mission for me to SC something and the Marauder seems to be the perfect car! I don't want anything SUPER fast, but just to experience some good old fashioned HP and TQ in a hopefully reliable setup that won't drain the bank account any more than the Eaton Swap itself. I luckily have all the (what I would call) necessary bolt ons for a SC application. So, Eaton Swap, here we come! ;)

[chief455]

I have never owned a supercharged car. When I had my 91 Mark 7 LSC, I did every bolt on plus a custom exhaust and headers in preparation for a KB SC, but other things eventually got in the way. So, now, it has become a mission for me to SC something and the Marauder seems to be the perfect car! I don't want anything SUPER fast, but just to experience some good old fashioned HP and TQ in a hopefully reliable setup that won't drain the bank account any more than the Eaton Swap itself. I luckily have all the (what I would call) necessary bolt ons for a SC application. So, Eaton Swap, here we come! ;)
good plan, right car - good luck with it!!:)

[99SVT]

It makes sense to me, that's why I've kept my mach 1 na with a few bolt ons. I can drive it around daily, not get totally bored of it and I can keep driving it while the marauder rips the transmission or rear end apart every couple years.

My next project will be a buick big block, and I'd like to see it run the quarter similar to my mm without power adders. My Wildcat and Marauder weigh the same so it's just a matter of making similar power and traction.

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[sflrainmaker01]

And, I am not suggesting you SC yours. To me, the car feels quite fast as it is (even though the time slip doesn't show it, lol). If, for some reason, the Eaton swap looks like it won't happen, then its 4.56's and widened wheels for me!:D

I forgot to mention, that the other cool thing with this Eaton Swap is that you can pay as you go. That was one of the road blocks with the LSC. Coughing up $3000 at once for their kit, plus installation, tuning etc was a tall order at the time. So, it never got done.:shake:

[chief455]

It makes sense to me, that's why I've kept my mach 1 na with a few bolt ons. I can drive it around daily, not get totally bored of it and I can keep driving it while the marauder rips the transmission or rear end apart every couple years.

My next project will be a buick big block, and I'd like to see it run the quarter similar to my mm without power adders. My Wildcat and Marauder weigh the same so it's just a matter of making similar power and traction.

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big block buick N/A moving a heavy automatic car = no problem!!
WELL PORTED OR STAGE 1 HEADS WITH A WELL SELECTED CAM AND INTAKE - YOU'LL HAVE ~550+ CRANK HP/TQ ON PUMP GAS.
Buick 455 parts have come around in the past few years as have Pontiac.
good luck!

[sflrainmaker01]

big block buick N/A moving a heavy automatic car = no problem!!
WELL PORTED OR STAGE 1 HEADS WITH A WELL SELECTED CAM AND INTAKE - YOU'LL HAVE ~550+ CRANK HP/TQ ON PUMP GAS.
Buick 455 parts have come around in the past few years as have Pontiac.
good luck!

I love those old BB Gran Sports! :drool:

[MMBLUE]

LOL - God, I hope you're wrong!!!
I'm too old for this crap :help:

He is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO right.

[chief455]

You will learn an eaton swap or homemade Centri kit is cheaper than all the NA mods needed to break 13.5.
I predict you will cave eventually :D
:shake::shake:

He is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO right.
:congrats: Is me pricing parts, install and vendors caving?:argue:

I think I'm being swayed.......... but, maybe later on.......must...resist....

[boatmangc]

I have NEVER bought a car and planned on leaving it alone!

[fireandice9008]

I still say make her a shaker with some nice cams and motor work and leave it N/A. After reading your last thread, I realized that I really need to get my tuning straightened out and get some ET times, I think I can give the guys in the mid 13s a real run for their money, and if that's the case...it may stay N/A

[tbone]

I did no mods to my car until I joined this site. It was bone stock. Since then I've been a very, very sick man......

[clintons4]

:shake::shake:

:congrats: Is me pricing parts, install and vendors caving?:argue:

I think I'm being swayed.......... but, maybe later on.......must...resist....


This is pretty much what I was telling you in that post when you asked about cams and full SW exhaust. :beer:

[chief455]

I did no mods to my car until I joined this site. It was bone stock. Since then I've been a very, very sick man......
Yup - swore to myself the car must stay mild - that's why I love it!!
I still will stay N/A unless I find S/C is affordable - TO ME.
Seems to be much more achievable on these cars than ones I've done before. My mind is open, but the wallet, well:rolleyes:

This is pretty much what I was telling you in that post when you asked about cams and full SW exhaust. :beer:
I was listening, and resisting ;)

[Jeffonebuck]

I will stay NA, but will be excited to watch you Guys Boost it up !


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[71cyclone]

Yup - swore to myself the car must stay mild - that's why I love it!!
I still will stay N/A unless I find S/C is affordable - TO ME.
Seems to be much more achievable on these cars than ones I've done before. My mind is open, but the wallet, well:rolleyes:

I was listening, and resisting ;)

I started to Charge the MM 2 1/2 years ago and I have since bought 2 Lincoln Mark 3's in the process [I love Classic big block Lincolns ] ; But I am still open for suggestions also //:D

[sflrainmaker01]

I had a weird thought about keeping the Marauder N/A. :hmmm: But, in that same thought I contemplating purchasing a Mystichrome 2004 Cobra convertible to satisfy my supercharger cravings... Oh wait, that was more like a dream! :P

[Zack]

I had a weird thought about keeping the Marauder N/A. :hmmm: But, in that same thought I contemplating purchasing a Mystichrome 2004 Cobra convertible to satisfy my supercharger cravings... Oh wait, that was more like a dream! :P

I had a Cobra and sold it because it was way too hard to work on.
And If I say that.....it must be a PITA to work on!

[sflrainmaker01]

I had a Cobra and sold it because it was way too hard to work on.
And If I say that.....it must be a PITA to work on!

Interesting.... But, I would keep it stock. :lol:

[WPG_Merc]

I love the Comp Stage 3 N/A Blower Cams the MM has now &
after the 3500 trans converter in spring & M/T tires it should run faster then 13s.Then for more power I'll go ZEX. :D

[chief455]

LORD, WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!
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[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Lol I knew you posted in SVTP. Trying to be inconspicuous over here..

:beer:

[chief455]

Lol I knew you posted in SVTP. Trying to be inconspicuous over here..

:beer:
Sniffing where the deals are.....it's a start.
Scored a lower intake, intercooler, adapter plate and 60lb injectors, plus Jerry's brackets also.
Car will likely stay N/A this years as planned, but by next year :eek::burnout:

[MOTOWN]

LORD, WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahhhh you have seen the light:thinker::neener:

[BlkMamba24]

Yea he saw the light, lol, and it didn't take long either...

[ctrlraven]

Yea he saw the light, lol, and it didn't take long either...
I think the whole "staying NA" was BS to start with. :lol:

Once you have a taste of the "go fast" (in his T/A) you crave it with all things. :burnout:

[sflrainmaker01]

Sniffing where the deals are.....it's a start.
Scored a lower intake, intercooler, adapter plate and 60lb injectors, plus Jerry's brackets also.
Car will likely stay N/A this years as planned, but by next year :eek::burnout:

LOL, I saw you over at SVT too! That was a nice setup I was eyeballing but you beat me to it! :flamer: I wasn't worried at the time, but now I see you've converted! ;) Good luck! We should be doing the swap around the same time! :eek: :burnout:

[chief455]

I think the whole "staying NA" was BS to start with. :lol:

Once you have a taste of the "go fast" (in his T/A) you crave it with all things. :burnout:Actually, I was serious, just easily swayed!
:) That T/A is latest in a long line of 'go fast' for me. Back in the mid 90's I was one of the first to make 600fwhp N/A with a stock block/head cast iron street Pontiac 455 - on pump gas....that was when the "I can do it" frenzy took over ;)

LOL, I saw you over at SVT too! That was a nice setup I was eyeballing but you beat me to it! :flamer: I wasn't worried at the time, but now I see you've converted! ;) Good luck! We should be doing the swap around the same time! :eek: :burnout:
:beatnik: Thanks! Good luck to you as well.
I will be taking my time, it isn't cheap to do things correctly, and I have much learning to do with these 4V mod motors.
But even N/A as first planned, loving the Marauder!!!