M122 on a marauder

[Jokerzl]

Putting. Together a kit for the marauder to run the m122 gt 500 blower.

With that said

Bill will be helping out and will be running the first on this site


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[guspech750]

Yes! Finally.


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DTR + 4.10's + Eaton swap = Wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom

[loud2004marquis]

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[RacerX]

Drivers side intake again! Good thing I didn't cut that 100mm hole out behind the passenger side headlight for the velocity stack! Now I'll be able to do it on the DS. :banana2:

[Blk04MM]

Cobra engineering had the "kit" for $650+shipping.

One will need I suppose the normal eaton swap things??? Or is it a bit lesser

[Jokerzl]

Cobra engineering and I have talked

Going to need some cobra stuff as well

This is just the Midplate and a gt500 blower

I want to a do ported gt500 blower ported and plate package


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[justbob]

Might be interested. Keeping some form of EGR?


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[Jokerzl]

Egr bill is going to work on that


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[justbob]

How soon are you looking to get this done?


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[ChiTownMaraud3r]

This is interesting.. not on a stock aluminum marauder 4.6 motor though right?

[Jokerzl]

Correct this is with the cobra intake manifold


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[Drewstang]

I saw the Cobra engineering kit and wondered if it would work on these cars. I wonder if cowl cutting will be needed.

[RacerX]

I highly doubt there will be any hood interference. The height of the eaton is about equal to the depth of the M122 plus plate. Like the trilogy. That has a plate. I'll let you know though.

[Blown3.8]

The interference you are going to run into is the bump for the wiper motor, with the DS inlet.

[guspech750]

The interference you are going to run into is the bump for the wiper motor, with the DS inlet.

That's always been my understanding too.


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[fireandice9008]

A little far away, but I'll volunteer my (alleged) forged motor and attached Marauder for testing...if I can keep the parts :burnout:

[JohnE]

The factory wiper assembly will be your problem with the M122 Cobra inlet. If you can come up with an alternate wiper setup, this would be nice to have.

Me personally, I'm going the Whipple for an 03/04 cobra route. More benefit than a roots in most ways.


John

[justbob]

There is plenty of open space in the wiper housing to accommodate trimming and re shaping. How much is needed? One of us will find out shortly as always..


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[massacre]

Race cars don't need wipers....:D

[DWSTANG67]

If the stock internals will handle a m122 THEN


:banana2: PUT ME ON THE LIST FOR A KIT :banana2:

[RacerX]

I have no issues cutting, modifying or removing anything.
I don't need wipers at the track.
RainX works great.

Trust me, I'll make it work. We'll be sure to keep everyone updated on any snags and ways to get around them.

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

If the stock internals will handle a m122 THEN


:banana2: PUT ME ON THE LIST FOR A KIT :banana2:


Stock internals are shotty when turning up the M112, would need to work them to take advantage of the M122.

[justbob]

Post 9?


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[Jokerzl]

I'm going to get together a kit

Only money I'm going to make off this is the port

So I hope you guys go through with the port

Lol


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[Cheeseheadbob]

My Marauder sported the wiper delete for a number of years! :D On the extremely rare occasion the car was caught in the rain, I had enough RainX on the windshield to make it through the monsoon season in Sri Lanka!!!
Race cars don't need wipers....:D

[djs2000mgm]

What ever happened to the kit for this, any new developments?

[Jokerzl]

It's been done for awhile just no interested

[jwibbity]

It's been done for awhile just no interested

what are the advangtes over the m112 besides keeping the driver side intake!?

[sflrainmaker01]

what are the advangtes over the m112 besides keeping the driver side intake!?

It has a larger inlet and a larger displacement (122ci vs 112ci), so it pumps more air.

[sflrainmaker01]

It's been done for awhile just no interested

you mean, no interest or not interested? :confused: Any pics?

[Jokerzl]

It's done ready to go just need money to get it made and done

[Jokerzl]

Didn't seem like any wanted to pay

also benefits are 70 ft lbs over m112

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

What's the word on the wiper cowl, and hood clearance?

[djs2000mgm]

^^^ This. Definitely would like to see pictures. And, for that matter, what's the kit cost?

[MMBLUE]

^^^ This. Definitely would like to see pictures. And, for that matter, what's the kit cost?


Ditto.

This is the first time I'm reading about this :confused: This is useless with out pictures or a comprehensive write up with detailed pics and pricing.

[eric jones]

Any updates to this swap yet? Will it fit under the stock hood?

[Mr. Man]

What do you mean 'no interest'? I thought Bill was putting this on his car. I think we are all waiting to see if it worked.

[Jokerzl]

It does work I just have no idea on hood clearence

I don't have a marauder locally.

Someone will have to take some measurements and see what's up I can't afford to do a customers car on my dime.

I had a car lock up two TVS blowers in 30 min costing me two TVS blowers. It's niether here not there but it cost me a lot of money something like 3500 bucks. So now I need a guniea pig with the money who wants to try it.


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[JohnE]

Blowers should not be locking up. Foreign object ingestion? Gearbox lube? Maybe they were already toasted prior to being removed from their previous vehicle? Eatons are typically long life if treated properly.

[eric jones]

Okay, so has anyone done this swap on the Marauder? I've heard their is a guy in Michigan who has done it but I don't know who he is. Does anyone know of him? I'm considering doing this instead of the m112. I like the fact that you don't have to move the battery with the m122 and the increased power potential as compared to m112.

[Ourobos]

If you're going to go to all the trouble of getting the adapter plates etc, just do a 2.3 TVS.

[eric jones]

If you're going to go to all the trouble of getting the adapter plates etc, just do a 2.3 TVS.
I already have the majority of parts for the eaton swap so I'm thinking that with the adapter plate and blower I should be pretty well set. Later on if I decide to go even bigger, the I could go with the TVS. I'm trying to get as much info as I can to help me make an informed decision. Either way I will get blown (pun intended)

[lji372]

I already have the majority of parts for the eaton swap so I'm thinking that with the adapter plate and blower I should be pretty well set. Later on if I decide to go even bigger, the I could go with the TVS. I'm trying to get as much info as I can to help me make an informed decision. Either way I will get blown (pun intended)

I read up on some svt threads. This sounds like middle ground at middle price.
At the end of the day your long term goals should answer if this is for you.
Would love to see this in person on a marauder :banana2:

[eric jones]

I read up on some svt threads. This sounds like middle ground at middle price.
At the end of the day your long term goals should answer if this is for you.
Would love to see this in person on a marauder :banana2:
Me too! And on my Marauder.

[MOTOWN]

Me too! And on my Marauder.


Make it happen! I would love to see this adapted to a Marauder!

[justbob]

Make it happen! I would love to see this adapted to a Marauder!


Too many would rather discuss it and dream. Most don't have the balls to try new things..

See what I did there Jerry? :) I just motivated you!


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[lji372]

Too many would rather discuss it and dream. Most don't have the balls to try new things..

See what I did there Jerry? :) I just motivated you!


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[MOTOWN]

:tmi:....................

Sounds like your on the fence Jerry?

[eric jones]

[QUOTE=justbob;1414100]Too many would rather discuss it and dream. Most don't have the balls to try new things..

See what I did there Jerry? :) I just motivated you!


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[lji372]

Sounds like your on the fence Jerry?


There are never ending wants.

I would love to twin turbo it.
But not as much as I would love to get a different car-

only because going twin turbo or any other power adder would be flushing even MORE money down the toilet......

[sflrainmaker01]

It does work I just have no idea on hood clearence

I don't have a marauder locally.

Someone will have to take some measurements and see what's up I can't afford to do a customers car on my dime.

I had a car lock up two TVS blowers in 30 min costing me two TVS blowers. It's niether here not there but it cost me a lot of money something like 3500 bucks. So now I need a guniea pig with the money who wants to try it.


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How thick is the adapter plate? Aren't the blowers pretty much the same height wise?

[MOTOWN]

There are never ending wants.

I would love to twin turbo it.
But not as much as I would love to get a different car-

only because going twin turbo or any other power adder would be flushing even MORE money down the toilet......

Not if its what you want! my only regret is waiting 8 years after I bought the car to mod it!:rolleyes:

[lji372]

Not if its what you want! my only regret is waiting 8 years after I bought the car to mod it!:rolleyes:

true! in that case a gto is in my future :banana2: i've always wanted 1

[blkZooM]

I planed on going this route, it's makes it a less complicated with the making wires longer to reach the other side. Only thing that it's keeping me from being 100% committed is that I would go with a VMP 2.3 TVS GEN2 AND would want a throttle body bigger than the Dragon. As of now I haven't read anyone who has used a bigger TB with the adapter that comes with the kit

[sflrainmaker01]

What about the plate to mount the SC to the intake?

[eric jones]

What about the plate to mount the SC to the intake?
What is it you are asking about the adapter plate?

[Spectragod]

true! in that case a gto is in my future :banana2: i've always wanted 1

You had a GTO, twice, I was there, you defiantly had it.....by 3 cars at least.....:burnout:

[lji372]

You had a GTO, twice, I was there, you defiantly had it.....by 3 cars at least.....:burnout:

^^^^true story

'Twas a slow ride home though...... :o

[sflrainmaker01]

What is it you are asking about the adapter plate?

Just wondering how much it would raise the blower up and whether or not there would still be hood clearance? Also, would the proposed "adapter plate" use our stock intake or be made to fit a Cobra one?

[blkZooM]

Just wondering how much it would raise the blower up and whether or not there would still be hood clearance? Also, would the proposed "adapter plate" use our stock intake or be made to fit a Cobra one?

From what I remember reading it actually lowers the supercharger, and you need an 03-04 cobra lower intake

[sflrainmaker01]

There is a guy in my local car club giving away his GT500 blower.:eek: He upgraded to a Whipple or Kenne Bell. But, I am not sure if it would be worth trying to make it work on a Marauder. Isn't one custom adapter plate as good as another? I really like the driver's side intake setup, if it can be kept. I don't want to "take him up on it, knowing it won't work" and then sell it. I'd rather have someone else in the club be able to actually USE it.

[lji372]

[QUOTE=justbob;1414100]Too many would rather discuss it and dream. Most don't have the balls to try new things..

See what I did there Jerry? :) I just motivated you!


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Well??

Bueller????

[Drewstang]

Two years later and no progress?

[RacerX]

Shhhhhhhhh.... It'll be nice to have the battery and intake back on the right sides...


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/726/medium/M122_Adapter_Kit.jpg

[lji372]

Shhhhhhhhh.... It'll be nice to have the battery and intake back on the right sides...


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/726/medium/M122_Adapter_Kit.jpg



i was asking for a friend...................... :D:D

[RacerX]

Too many would rather discuss it and dream. Most don't have the balls to try new things..

Some have bigger balls than most... Just no $$$ :violin:

[Drewstang]

What's the cost and who makes them?

[RacerX]

The kit runs $650. http://cobraengineering.net/adapter.html
You do need to find an M122 or newer GT500 supercharger though.

[blkZooM]

I think some people are just a bit worried/scared of being the first to try something new/different.


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[Zack]

It's already been done so there isn't much to worry about.
This is a bolt-on with little thinking involved.

[MOTOWN]

I think some people are just a bit worried/scared of being the first to try something new/different.


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That has nothing to do with it , this is the most innovative bunch around , the fact of the matter is by the time you buy the adapter plate from cobra engineering, and the 122 you could have bought a 2.3l whipple, and easily made more power.

[parker]

That has nothing to do with it , this is the most innovative bunch around , the fact of the matter is by the time you buy the adapter plate from cobra engineering, and the 122 you could have bought a 2.3l whipple, and easily made more power.



You all about them whipples huh MightyMO?

[blkZooM]

That has nothing to do with it , this is the most innovative bunch around , the fact of the matter is by the time you buy the adapter plate from cobra engineering, and the 122 you could have bought a 2.3l whipple, and easily made more power.



I think your exaggerating a bit Motown, the kit is $650, a m122 will cost between $450 and $600, I got lucky and bought my m122 with plenum and 2.65 upper pulley for $250. Add in a pulley and intake maybe an extra $175, plus if you are coming from a stock Marauder you don't have to do the extra work of switching over to the other side. So unless you are buying a Whipple for under $2000 highly unlikely you are going to equal the same price going this route vs buying a 2.3 whipple

Will you make more power with a 2.3 Whipple vs a m122 of course but if you could run a 2.3 on your motor you might as well forgo the m122 and find either a Gen 1 VMP TVS which are are now going for at most $1500 used or just buy a Trinity 2.3 TVS for around $2500 new used are in the $1800 range and make just as much power. When comparing prices if you know what you are doing you could make out cheaper going this route and still make the same amount of power as a 2.3 Whipple.


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[RacerX]

Lol! $400 shipped:


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/726/medium/GT500_M122.jpg

[parker]

[QUOTE=RacerX;1512426]Lol! $400 shipped:









I'll take it. LOL

[Drewstang]

The reason I'm asking is say a guy wanted to do an eaton swap, wouldn't it make more sense to use the M122 and adapter setup than the M112 even if it was ported? The stock bottom end won't support the full boost or either one but why not have the better efficiency of the M122.

[blkZooM]

The reason I'm asking is say a guy wanted to do an eaton swap, wouldn't it make more sense to use the M122 and adapter setup than the M112 even if it was ported? The stock bottom end won't support the full boost or either one but why not have the better efficiency of the M122.


If you don't mind spending an extra 650, yes it would.


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[lji372]

The reason I'm asking is say a guy wanted to do an eaton swap, wouldn't it make more sense to use the M122 and adapter setup than the M112 even if it was ported? The stock bottom end won't support the full boost or either one but why not have the better efficiency of the M122.

Yes sir imho.

Retain d/s inlet and not spin as hard.

So $650 less the cost of the extra labor for the port if you went that route and less the headache of swapping to a p/s inlet.

[lji372]

I actually have an m122 but not sure what to do with it since I have obtained a ported trilogy for blue.

[BAD MERC]

This thread now has me gidday again for forced induction. An Eaton swap required too many mods and I was not excited to move the battery and fuse block.

[lji372]

This thread now has me gidday again for forced induction. An Eaton swap required too many mods and I was not excited to move the battery and fuse block.

It's actually an old thread. But since acquiring an m122 I was just wonder what has happened since it was started.

Looks like price went down to $600 for the adapter kit.

http://www.cobraengineering.net/adapter.html

[RubberCtyRauder]

you can also go with a 2.3 tvs on driver side intake. which have had great reviews listed recently. i like the driver side inlet myself

[RacerX]

you can also go with a 2.3 tvs on driver side intake. which have had great reviews listed recently. i like the driver side inlet myself

Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Do we follow proper etiquette and remove the 5.8 numbers? Leave the SVT though.

[O's Fan Rich]

It's the set up I've pieced together.

[Logizyme]

When I was looking into this way back when I found that the GT500 M122's could be had for fractions of the going price for a Cobra M112.

Higher demand for M112's and smaller amount built.

Allot of GT500's built, and a high percentage of them upgrade, few applications can make use of the M122 - at least without this adapter - which resulted in relatively low prices comparatively.

Not sure if the pricing is still the same now tho.

Makes the M122 route even more of an option.

[blkZooM]

you can also go with a 2.3 tvs on driver side intake. which have had great reviews listed recently. i like the driver side inlet myself

As you can see with RacerX excitement flashing through the screen this is the real benefit of going this route, getting a blower that can compete with a twin screw, out performing the one its size and not being too far off from the bigger ones for the price they are going for is an all around win. A reminder though you MUST delete your egr when going this route

Seems as if someone beat you to the punch RacerX, I would remove both though.

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k622/blckrada/11007963_333453540194915_13586 6499_n_zps7k3tnqws.jpg (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/blckrada/media/11007963_333453540194915_13586 6499_n_zps7k3tnqws.jpg.html)

I drool over this one.

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k622/blckrada/C3AC318D-55C1-4F79-B9A3-4B867E448619_zpsdvxuz6ut.jpg (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/blckrada/media/C3AC318D-55C1-4F79-B9A3-4B867E448619_zpsdvxuz6ut.jpg.h tml)

I'm also in the process of seeing if I could maybe get a certain throttle body cable bracket altered or just simply modify it myself to allow me or anyone for that matter that is using a m122 to delete the adapter and bolt the throttle body directly to the plenum only options though are mechanical throttle body which share the same bolt pattern with as the GT500, so far that is either a SCJ throttle body, VMP 168mm throttle body or Whipple's Crusher throttle body.

[RacerX]

Lol, for cheap money if you take your time and keep an eye out, this is a nice project. This is the right TB for our needs: ford racing m-9926-scj mechanical

https://fordracingpartsbydonwood.com/engine-parts/fuel-delivery/super-cobra-jet-oval-throttle-body-m-9926-scj/

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/726/medium/FRPP_M-9926-SCJM.jpg

[Stealthrider]

I wonder if someone would be willing to make a direct bolt-on kit for the Marauder. I thought the ADTR Vortech kit was the only option for supercharging now. Looks like there may be another choice.

[Stealthrider]

Can a stock bottom-end Marauder handle a M122?

[RubberCtyRauder]

Nobody is going to make a kit for Marauder any longer, too few left of potential buyers. ADTR kit is a pieced kit, meaning he does all the leg work to make it fit a marauder. It can be done alone if you are ambitious, Eaton swaps M112, VMP etc..still require piecing it together thru new and used parts.

A stock bottom end (rods and pistons being the weak link) based on what's been done is the 425-450 hp area. some have gone more and some have gone less. A lot of it has to do with the tune and how far on the edge of it you go.

[justbob]

You mean we have to piece it all together ourselves???


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[Stealthrider]

Nobody is going to make a kit for Marauder any longer, too few left of potential buyers. ADTR kit is a pieced kit, meaning he does all the leg work to make it fit a marauder. It can be done alone if you are ambitious, Eaton swaps M112, VMP etc..still require piecing it together thru new and used parts.

A stock bottom end (rods and pistons being the weak link) based on what's been done is the 425-450 hp area. some have gone more and some have gone less. A lot of it has to do with the tune and how far on the edge of it you go.

I assume the parts you'll need are almost if not the same parts required for the 03-04 Cobra eaton swap?

[RubberCtyRauder]

I assume the parts you'll need are almost if not the same parts required for the 03-04 Cobra eaton swap?

Yes, meaning Marauder specific parts must be used where needed. A complete cobra eaton has parts the Marauder cant use.