sold the procharger, going twins!

[Mr. Man]

Getting there!!!
Think it will be ready for Carlisle?

[lji372]

Think it will be ready for Louisville?

Fixed it.
Well?????????

[Seneca]

Fixed it.
Well?????????

Lol!!! Probably not, should have it going early summer if all goes well

[whitey]

Im getting excited! For me [emoji14]

[chief455]

Lol!!! Probably not, should have it going early summer if all goes well

very impessive, patiently built set up :beer:

[Seneca]

It's been forever, I've been working on the car a bit here and there, made alot of progress the pass week, half the fuel system is done, most of the wiring, with any luck it'll go to the dyno this fall

[MOTOWN]

Looks Outstanding! Cant wait to see your #s

[Seneca]

Looks Outstanding! Cant wait to see your #s thanks! I'm getting impatient! Finally lol

[rayjay]

You are going to sell and install this kit right? :D

[Seneca]

You are going to sell and install this kit right? :D
This exact kit.... possibly 😉

[sailsmen]

Impressed! Very well layed out.

Per K&N*
"That brings us to size.

Use the formula below to compute the minimum size filter required for your particular application. The usable portion of the filter is called the EFFECTIVE FILTERING AREA which is determined by multiplying the diameter of the filter times Pi (3.1416) times the height of the air filter in inches, then subtracting
.75-inch. We subtract .75-inch to compensate for the rubber seals on each end of the element and the filter material near them since very little air flows through this area.


A = effective filtering area
CID = cubic inch displacement
RPM = revolutions per minute at maximum power

Example: A 281 CID Ford engine with a horsepower peak at 6,500 rpm.

281CI X 6,500RPM / 20,839 = 87.65


If you are sizing a panel filter, multiply the width of the filter area (not the rubber seal) times its length."

The panel filter would need to be 9.4"X9.4".

The filter I have is 127.25" in Effective Filtering Area.

*Note: changed to reflect MM application.

[justbob]

My single is smaller than his double filters and had no issue making a safe 600 hp street tune.

He'll be fine.

Looks outstanding!


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[2,4shofast]

It looking amazing! It is so impressive how much stuff has been relocated and still looks near stock, minus the turbos of course. Great work!

[sailsmen]

Interesting Calculator for NA from Second Strike Air Cleaner Calculator
http://www.secondstrike.com/Technical/AirCleanerCalc.asp

Although my MM is S/C I plugged it in and it comes out aok.

[Seneca]

Some updates, the cars Underhood is about finished for now, I have received my startup tune from Matt at performance evolution in Delaware, had the car running a few times, all seems good, have a few loose ends to finish and dyno tune soon!

[TooManyFords]

Looking good Seneca!

[justbob]

Looks stout man!


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[TooManyFords]

You're gonna need a bigger boost gauge! lol

[vkirkend]

Some updates, the cars Underhood is about finished for now, I have received my startup tune from Matt at performance evolution in Delaware, had the car running a few times, all seems good, have a few loose ends to finish and dyno tune soon!


I would come by to watch this... and buy you lunch.:)

[RubberCtyRauder]

Awesome work!!!

[Joe Walsh]

That looks awesome....super clean install!

[rayjay]

You're the MAN Seneca! Great job. Hope she purrs like a kitten at idle and roars like a lion on full throttle!

[Mr. Man]

:congrats: Seneca. Bet when it fired over that was a big relief.

Hope to see the car in Carlisle if not sooner. :)

[chefcaleb]

Looks like I'm going twins as well. This was a very good thread. However, I am not doing the work... it'd be an epic fail if I did. I was lucky to find a guy who specializes in Fords and turbos... good combo.

[WhatsUpDOHC]

Some updates, the cars Underhood is about finished for now, I have received my startup tune from Matt at performance evolution in Delaware, had the car running a few times, all seems good, have a few loose ends to finish and dyno tune soon!Any chance for a trip to Cecil on Saturday?

https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=105298

Not to race, just to "show"?

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[Svashtar]

Two things: 1) looks awesome congratulations on a great job! 2). I’m jealous as hell. [emoji16]


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[2,4shofast]

Such a clean install, you are extremely talented! Cant wait to see what it puts down and drivability!

[Seneca]

:congrats: Seneca. Bet when it fired over that was a big relief.

Hope to see the car in Carlisle if not sooner. :) it was! It always is on a fresh motor 1st start lol, I'm hoping to make Carlisle


Looking good Seneca! thank you sir!

[Seneca]

Such a clean install, you are extremely talented! Cant wait to see what it puts down and drivability! thank you sir, I can't wait to drive it

[Seneca]

Two things: 1) looks awesome congratulations on a great job! 2). I’m jealous as hell. [emoji16]


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[Seneca]

Any chance for a trip to Cecil on Saturday?

https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=105298

Not to race, just to "show"?

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk I would have loved to, unfortunately the car is not tagged currently, and I'm finishing up my battery box install

[Seneca]

Looks like I'm going twins as well. This was a very good thread. However, I am not doing the work... it'd be an epic fail if I did. I was lucky to find a guy who specializes in Fords and turbos... good combo. depending on goals if I did over, I would probably do a single, so much more room for 1, and you can leave almost everything where its at

[Seneca]

You're the MAN Seneca! Great job. Hope she purrs like a kitten at idle and roars like a lion on full throttle! it screams pretty good, 😉 thank you sir


That looks awesome....super clean install! thanks joe!

[Seneca]

Looks stout man!


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You're gonna need a bigger boost gauge! lol same thing I thought, it's my old boost gauge from the p1, my tuner said leave it for now because he's not sure we'll make more then 15psi on 93


I would come by to watch this... and buy you lunch.:) if it works out I'd love to hang sir!


Awesome work!!!Thank you so much!

[Seneca]

Threw together a battery box and getting it mounted this weekend

[minimarine09]

im living vicariously through you... its awesome! honestly i would love to go turbo in mine, i just dont know how to weld quite yet, and im for damn sure not going to pay all that labor! may speak with my friend who builds cages and frames, may look into seeing how much a tubular subframe/ for the marauder would be.

[Lowndex]

Hello 1/4 mile 9s!

[Seneca]

Just an update, i have probably put 100 miles on the car, just a base tune with some tweaks. Running 11psi im chasing an issue with my Fred Brown trans, between that and the weather its been a drag, hoping to get it right this weekend, at 11psi its pretty nasty, scared me.. lol
Im hoping to make Carlisle this year

[justbob]

I bet 11#s gets quite hairy quick in these temps!


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[TooManyFords]

Just an update, i have probably put 100 miles on the car, just a base tune with some tweaks. Running 11psi im chasing an issue with my Fred Brown trans, between that and the weather its been a drag, hoping to get it right this weekend, at 11psi its pretty nasty, scared me.. lol
Im hoping to make Carlisle this year

Awesome! Looking forward to comparing notes!

[MOTOWN]

Cant wait to see how this turns out!

[chief455]

Cool beans, Seneca! At least you are burning rubber ;)

[vkirkend]

Good for you!!!!

[Seneca]

It's been awhile, busy again seems to be a trend,
Car was tuned two weeks ago, can't upload the dynosheet for some reason, but the results are
601rwhp sae corrected 592rwtq at 19psi 6200 rpms
15 degrees of timing, down the road maybe I'll do an e85 or race gas tune, during tuning I had a boost leak we were unaware of, since fixing it... wow, that car is insane with the 3800 stall it's in boost very quickly. I habe not personally ran it over 14 psi, to much for the crappy tires. New meat then I'll dial up the controller, over all I am very happy with it, the mvb trans is gonna take a bit to get use to. Hopefully it'll make some passes this fall if I get a tire setup by then

[NorthShoreChiMM]

Badass. Keep it coming

[justbob]

Love it!


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[musclemerc]

Bad ass Man!!!

[rayjay]

Great work Seneca! Get some drag tires and see what she'll do int 1/4 mile. ;)

[MOTOWN]

Sounds sweet!

[blazen71]

Nice work buddy!

[Seneca]

Thanks so much guys, appreciate it!!!

[justbob]

I can’t get over how clean of an install this ended up being. Of course, you did spend a little bit of time on it. [emoji12]

Can’t wait to hear of her street manners after some time has passed!


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[justgod]

With the FB trans and manual valve body, did you hook up an aftermarket shifter so you don’t miss gears or stick with the stocker?

[Seneca]

With the FB trans and manual valve body, did you hook up an aftermarket shifter so you don’t miss gears or stick with the stocker?

Stock shifter for now, I'll probably change it up over winter, fb actually recommend the stock shifter

[justgod]

Stock shifter for now, I'll probably change it up over winter, fb actually recommend the stock shifter
Ahhh, interesting. I have a Hurst T handle quarter stick I wanted to put in, but, I don't want to mess up the MM shift bezel, etc. Yet, I don't want to be at the track and go from first to third on accident.

[Seneca]

Ahhh, interesting. I have a Hurst T handle quarter stick I wanted to put in, but, I don't want to mess up the MM shift bezel, etc. Yet, I don't want to be at the track and go from first to third on accident.
What trans are you running?

[justgod]

Freddy Brown 4STB-E with all the high HP internals, manual valve body and trans brake. :D

[Seneca]

Freddy Brown 4STB-E with all the high HP internals, manual valve body and trans brake. :D
Very nice, same here.. how many miles have you got on it so far?

[justgod]

Very nice, same here.. how many miles have you got on it so far?

Zero. She's freshly rebuilt like the engine going on her. 3200 TCI stall. This will take a little getting used to :)

[Seneca]

Zero. She's freshly rebuilt like the engine going on her. 3200 TCI stall. This will take a little getting used to :)

It definitely takes a bit, I have a few hundred miles on mine. I received mine with a bad pressure switch on the side of the trans, I'm running a 3800 stall. Trans feels really good. Shifts are really nice, I was worried they'd be harsh, but not the case, lockup on demand is kinda neat

[justbob]

Ahhh, interesting. I have a Hurst T handle quarter stick I wanted to put in, but, I don't want to mess up the MM shift bezel, etc. Yet, I don't want to be at the track and go from first to third on accident.



Gt500 shift boot fits perfectly in the opening. It has a light weight plastic frame under the leather (to keep it rectangular) and if you nip the corners just a tad it pops right in. I have it in my 6 speed and Zack is using it on his race Marauder with an auto. I can’t remember which shifter he ended up with but both applications where a breeze and cheap through EBay.

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[SGT_MERC]

It definitely takes a bit, I have a few hundred miles on mine. I received mine with a bad pressure switch on the side of the trans, I'm running a 3800 stall. Trans feels really good. Shifts are really nice, I was worried they'd be harsh, but not the case, lockup on demand is kinda neat


How did you do tc lockup on demand?

[Seneca]

Gt500 shift boot fits perfectly in the opening. It has a light weight plastic frame under the leather (to keep it rectangular) and if you nip the corners just a tad it pops right in. I have it in my 6 speed and Zack is using it on his race Marauder with an auto. I can’t remember which shifter he ended up with but both applications where a breeze and cheap through EBay.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/fb414a73243ecbeb874ca5457c8a3b af.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk thanks for that Bob!! That will make install a breeze and clean I really like it!

[Seneca]

How did you do tc lockup on demand?

It's a manual valve body transmission, lockup is a separate switch, it can be locked in 3rd or over drive

[justbob]

thanks for that Bob!! That will make install a breeze and clean I really like it!



[emoji1303]

BTW The aluminum bezel from FBM is optional and not needed, I added it later and it really turned out great. For that I had to under mount the boot and drill holes. Not everyone’s cup of tea with the precious counsel LOL




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[SGT_MERC]

[QUOTE=justbob;1559237][emoji1303]

BTW The aluminum bezel from FBM is optional and not needed, I added it later and it really turned out great. For that I had to under mount the boot and drill holes. Not everyone’s cup of tea with the precious counsel LOL

I think it looks awesome...

[IndyMerc]

I have so many questions. you have inspired me to follow in your twin turbo steps.

do you have a parts list? Do you feel comfortable sharing that information?
are your turbo's ball bearing?
what cams, and engine internals did you go with?

would you get that transmission again over a regular built up 4 speed?

what a great thread, props on your build and thank you for sharing. very cool stuff.

[Seneca]

I have so many questions. you have inspired me to follow in your twin turbo steps.

do you have a parts list? Do you feel comfortable sharing that information?
are your turbo's ball bearing?
what cams, and engine internals did you go with?

would you get that transmission again over a regular built up 4 speed?

what a great thread, props on your build and thank you for sharing. very cool stuff.
Sorry, somehow I missed seeing this, journal bearing turbos, cams are 98 cobra degreed for the application, the engine was forged crank billet manley rods, arp thru out forged pistons, one of the rods has since then failed, rebuilding it with molnar power adder rods,
The transmission was a disaster, terrible experience with freddy brown, im in the process of swapping to the 6r80 and repairing my engine over the winter.
The car was a beast pretty much no lag as would be expected, from a stop just mashing it, it would smoke the tires 1st thru 3rd lol ac worked. It'll be much more enjoyable with a automatic trans again, as far as how the car performed I was extremely happy with it

[justbob]

Sorry to hear man. I would have given up and moved on..


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[musclemerc]

Sorry, somehow I missed seeing this, journal bearing turbos, cams are 98 cobra degreed for the application, the engine was forged crank billet manley rods, arp thru out forged pistons, one of the rods has since then failed, rebuilding it with molnar power adder rods,
The transmission was a disaster, terrible experience with freddy brown, im in the process of swapping to the 6r80 and repairing my engine over the winter.
The car was a beast pretty much no lag as would be expected, from a stop just mashing it, it would smoke the tires 1st thru 3rd lol ac worked. It'll be much more enjoyable with a automatic trans again, as far as how the car performed I was extremely happy with it

Not like you didn't throw good parts in her from the start. You get any answers from Manley as to why the billet rod failed?

I will eventually have to move to a 6R80 myself in the future. When you get done that's gonna be a potent combination.

[cheapthrillb2]

Nice job on packaging twins. Sucks about the problems your having.

[IndyMerc]

Life gets busy sometimes!!! its all good,

thanks for the reply.


Stay motivated

the last dsm I engine I bought had incorrect bearing sizing and galled the crank and mains, the company is no longer in business but I did a tear down after only 8 thousand miles So it can be frustrating but I always know how much better it will be the next time I work on something.


I ended up getting 99 cobra cams, i bought 4.10's and plan on going with a tremec 6 speed XL with the gears- 2.97 2.10 1.46 1.00 .80 .63

and twin 62mm turbos with the nice bearings. 18-21 lbs boost on pump is the aim.

[Seneca]

Sorry to hear man. I would have given up and moved on..


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There have been moments... lol.. there still are

[Seneca]

Not like you didn't throw good parts in her from the start. You get any answers from Manley as to why the billet rod failed?

I will eventually have to move to a 6R80 myself in the future. When you get done that's gonna be a potent combination.
Unfortunately I purchased the rods used, one time only mistake on my part, I can only imagine when they've been thru, they probably sold then for a reason.
Thanks sir, I'm hoping all this aggravation is worth it in the end

[Seneca]

Life gets busy sometimes!!! its all good,

thanks for the reply.


Stay motivated

the last dsm I engine I bought had incorrect bearing sizing and galled the crank and mains, the company is no longer in business but I did a tear down after only 8 thousand miles So it can be frustrating but I always know how much better it will be the next time I work on something.


I ended up getting 99 cobra cams, i bought 4.10's and plan on going with a tremec 6 speed XL with the gears- 2.97 2.10 1.46 1.00 .80 .63

and twin 62mm turbos with the nice bearings. 18-21 lbs boost on pump is the aim.
Sounds like u have a plan, manual will be fun, be sure you size your turbos well, I dont think my car would be much fun with a manual with its current setup, I'm running a 3800 stall and it needs it

[vkirkend]

Unfortunately I purchased the rods used, one time only mistake on my part, I can only imagine when they've been thru, they probably sold then for a reason.
Thanks sir, I'm hoping all this aggravation is worth it in the end

The reason I went with a new shortblock from MMR. It came with a warranty and is built to handle 950 to the wheels....

[chief455]

Sorry to hear man. I would have given up and moved on..


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Same here, I think. Although Seneca has far too many quality hours into making it to quit due to mechanical failure. I can understand going either way
Good luck with the upgraded build!

[sailsmen]

I recently met a prospective Client. They had fallen on some "bad luck".

He went on and on about the system and how no matter what he was being victimized. How he just wanted to give up.

When he finished. I stood up and said I want to shake your hand while I tell you this. I shook his hand, looked him in the eye and told him;
"Everything you said is true, never give up for it has a 100% failure rate.".

He replied - "I am not going to give up!".

[musclemerc]

I recently met a prospective Client. They had fallen on some "bad luck".

He went on and on about the system and how no matter what he was being victimized. How he just wanted to give up.

When he finished. I stood up and said I want to shake your hand while I tell you this. I shook his hand, looked him in the eye and told him;
"Everything you said is true, never give up for it has a 100% failure rate.".

He replied - "I am not going to give up!".

Gonna use this in the future ;)

[chief455]

Gonna use this in the future ;)

winners never quit, and quitters never win...;)

[Seneca]

I needed that pep talk!! Thanks, and yes I went forget that anytime soon

[Mr. Man]

Any more news on this build? Haven't heard from Seneca in a long time. Hope he's OK.

[Seneca]

Any more news on this build? Haven't heard from Seneca in a long time. Hope he's OK.

Blast from the past, im back!
It's running driving I'm bored and ready to change things up again, maybe next winter

[justbob]

Long time away man! Updates??


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[Seneca]

Yes sir it has been awhile, we come home eventually tho. Lol
No updates really, just driving the car, no track passes, recently starting a new project, very mainstream, 86 c10 all original doing a ls2 swap, getting the itch to play with the car, maybe a pass this year