Oil catch cans necessary?

[lji372]

I think so......


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[MOTOWN]

This is an excellent example of why a catch can is a mandatory/must on a Modular motor!

[lji372]

This is an excellent example of why a catch can is a mandatory/must on a Modular motor!

But they cost money :shake:

[lji372]

Oh, now I can write a song hmm, I shall I start it





KNOCKKNOCKKNOCKKNOCK.......... ..

[MOTOWN]

But they cost money :shake:

So does speed son!:banana2: dont skimp get a Draft42 designs "Ultimate" can! Its the Caddy of catch cans!

[lji372]

So does speed son!:banana2: dont skimp get a Draft42 designs "Ultimate" can! Its the Caddy of catch cans!

So darrin has told me.

I was going to swing down your way, make a stop near Dayton on my way back and have 2 :lol:

[MOTOWN]

So darrin has told me.

I was going to swing down your way, make a stop near Dayton on my way back and have 2 :lol:

Sounds like a plan! ill even spring for some Waffle house!:banana::pancake:

[lji372]

Sounds like a plan! ill even spring for some Waffle house!:banana::pancake:

I should take you up on that before I stop by your pad and snag a catch can :lol:

[MOTOWN]

I should take you up on that before I stop by your pad and snag a catch can :lol:

Hell snag the Entire car! im ready for my Twin turbo Lightning!:banana2:

[lji372]

Hell snag the Entire car! im ready for my Twin turbo Lightning!:banana2:

I could drop it in the d for you, your insured right?

[MOTOWN]

I could drop it in the d for you, your insured right?

LMAO! that would be a hell of a pursuit!

[MOTOWN]

Here is a pict of what im thinking for the Lightning!

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af324/sims36/20140531_112448_resized_zps4c7 52d87.jpg

[lji372]

What's special about the draft 42 design, I'm here to learn.....

[lji372]

Here is a pict of what im thinking for the Lightning!

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af324/sims36/20140531_112448_resized_zps4c7 52d87.jpg

Gulp :drool:

[MOTOWN]

What's special about the draft 42 design, I'm here to learn.....

Its simply the best catch can you can buy! http://www.42draftdesigns.com/Ultimate-Oil-Catch-Can_p_288.html

[MOTOWN]

Gulp :drool:

If i dont put something like this in my Marauder, it will be in a Lightning!

[lji372]

Its simply the best catch can you can buy! http://www.42draftdesigns.com/Ultimate-Oil-Catch-Can_p_288.html

You know I'd have to mill off that damn 42 and engrave a gods head though :D

[sailsmen]

Been S/C for for 140K and never had one. 80K on the current motor and to date no need.
The pics of the Eaton and IC were from an engine that was fully operational?

[Vortech347]

What the hell....I've pulled countless Eatons off Lightings and Cobras from 30k to 200k and have NEVER seen one look like that. Something else was very wrong.

[MOTOWN]

You know I'd have to mill off that damn 42 and engrave a gods head though :D

I wouldnt expect anything less from you! lol

[fastblackmerc]

My 42 Draft Designs Stealth catch can

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/Oil%20Catch%20Can/DSCN0443.jpg (http://s167.photobucket.com/user/fastblackmerc/media/MM%20Mods/Oil%20Catch%20Can/DSCN0443.jpg.html)

[lji372]

Been S/C for for 140K and never had one. 80K on the current motor and to date no need.
The pics of the Eaton and IC were from an engine that was fully operational?

Was being the key word, but yes. It was until three days before Louisville anyway. I've owned it two years.
This is the ebay motor that came with the trilogy a couple years ago, approximately 95k on the motor.

[Spectragod]

At least they make the cans now so you can screw fittings into it. I had to cut mine off and tig AN fittings on them.

You've seen some of my buddies shop, he told me he couldn't fab a set of the draft cans with the same materials for what they were selling them for, kinda like my "C" clips they fabbed, bet that won't happen again.

[8UWITH6]

Methanol Injection ;)

[sailsmen]

Methanol Injection ;)

I have been running Methanol for 80K and also wondered if that helps keep the intake cleaner?

[djs2000mgm]

Methanol or any liquid in the intake will definitely help.

Stuff like this is why, when I do my 4v/eaton swap, I'll be running remote breathers.

[Marauderjack]

I think so......


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Looks like the rings are GONE in that one!!:eek:

[HotRaud90]

Been thinkin about snaggin a catch can for mine. Don't think I can quite sport the price of those 42 draft designs ultimate cans. Anyone got any other good quality suggestions? I also looked at their more simple designs such as the Stealth Oil catch can. I also saw that Sparta Performance has a billet catch can on their site. Anyone got any feedback?

[boatmangc]

Methanol Injection ;)

MmmmmHmmmm!

[RubberCtyRauder]

I too did not go the $235 42dezign one. I was not aware they had a less fancy design for $130. I was referred to a UPR one for 03-04 cobra. Don't have link handy . Google UPR catch can

[lji372]

the car showed no signs of oil loss for my 2 years of ownership.

checking out catch cans and breathers now.

i like the theory of not even risking oil getting into the intake with a breather. still learning and researching..................

what say martyo

[Spectragod]

Go big or go home.........

[sailsmen]

the car showed no signs of oil loss for my 2 years of ownership.

checking out catch cans and breathers now.

i like the theory of not even risking oil getting into the intake with a breather. still learning and researching..................

what say martyo

Are you sure it happened over a 2 year period? To me it looks like an engine failure.

[camelgrundle]

For the guys asking about less expensive ones check out one of our vendors Sparta performance!

[gdmjoe]

RubberCtyRauder ... I was referred to a UPR one for 03-04 cobra.
They're more effective if you opt for the diffuser and extension. Installed in my 2011 F-150 5.0L ...
http://www.gdmjoe.com/gothf150/engine/oilcatchwextension.jpg

http://www.gdmjoe.com/gothf150/pictures/20120504/pic05-e.jpgSchematic ...
http://www.gdmjoe.com/gothf150/engine/oilcatchcandiffuser-parts-r.jpg

[lji372]

Are you sure it happened over a 2 year period?NO To me it looks like an engine failure.

do you not read?
i replied how and where i got the motor quoting your earlier question.

the motor was NOT a 2 year old motor.

my only point in this is to show others so they can try to avoid this happening to them.

and NO i did not have nasty exhaust out the tailpipes, well.....until the moment the motor went :bigcry:

[lji372]

They're more effective if you opt for the diffuser and extension. Installed in my 2011 F-150 5.0L ...
http://www.gdmjoe.com/gothf150/engine/oilcatchwextension.jpg

http://www.gdmjoe.com/gothf150/pictures/20120504/pic05-e.jpgSchematic ...
http://www.gdmjoe.com/gothf150/engine/oilcatchcandiffuser-parts-r.jpg

i like the engineering inside this one.

anyone have a schematic on what is going on inside the draft 42 one?

[Spectragod]

Some internal pictures here......... and more....

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4655220-42-Draft-Designs-NEW-FSI-Stealth-Oil-Catch-Can-Kit-225

[sailsmen]

do you not read?
i replied how and where i got the motor quoting your earlier question.

the motor was NOT a 2 year old motor.

my only point in this is to show others so they can try to avoid this happening to them.

and NO i did not have nasty exhaust out the tailpipes, well.....until the moment the motor went :bigcry:

Here is what I read, in addition to a lot of banter about things that have nothing to do with anything, 1) You post pictures of intake and IC covered in black oil with no info, 2) the engine failed 3 days before Louisville, 3) you owned the engine for 2 years and 4) "..This is the ebay motor that came with the trilogy a couple years ago, approximately 95k on the motor."

MarauderJack post - "Looks like the rings are GONE in that one!!"

Sailsmen post - "Are you sure it happened over a 2 year period? To me it looks like an engine failure."

To answer you - "Oil catch cans necessary?
I think so......"

Based on the history of the engine snd the failure I don't think the pics answer are "Oil catch cans necessary?.."

[lji372]

the title of the thread was a joke. it's obvious

rings gone?? car wasn't smoking or burning a noticable amount of oil in the two years i've driven it

"Are you sure it happened over a 2 year period? To me it looks like an engine failure."

i never stated it happened over a two year period


ultimately yes engine failed at 120mph on a non sanctioned track as they say. just a couple spirited jaunts. #1 let go.

badmerc1 asked if i'd contribute to trophies for mv, looks like i have 8 to mount on plaques :shake:

[sailsmen]

A possibility is an improperly routed/installed PVC system.

[BigCars4Ever]

Here's my plan to keep my intake clean and still have a working PCV once the charger goes on. I'll still use a catch can too but this way I pull vacuum even under boost!




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[Marauderjack]

[QUOTE=BigCars4Ever;1392415]Here's my plan to keep my intake clean and still have a working PCV once the charger goes on. I'll still use a catch can too but this way I pull vacuum even under boost!


Is that an Exhaust Evac system?? ;) :confused:

[tbone]

Musclemerc.

[whitey]

Musclemerc.

Whos that? ;)

[sailsmen]

A possibility is an improperly routed/installed PVC system.

The same pics from post #1 were posted else where with this statement;
"The last 2 pics show a Trilogy S/C that did not use the pcv connection at the base of the lower intake. Notice the intercooler acted as a filter and stopped the oil from coating the lower intake. The bottom sides of the intercooler are clean. Again, the stock pcv valve was left intact and is not up to task. I don't have to tell you guys in either case the S/C and the intercooler looses it's efficiency.".

[FastMerc]

So darrin has told me.

I was going to swing down your way, make a stop near Dayton on my way back and have 2 :lol:


When you going to Dayton?

[cer0413]

So does speed son!:banana2: dont skimp get a Draft42 designs "Ultimate" can! Its the Caddy of catch cans!
oops post 15

[lji372]

First of all thank you for bringing back old wounds. Grrrr


I went with a MightyMouse catch can.

When under boost it becomes an open breather... :2thumbs:

[justbob]

Stuff like this is why, when I do my 4v/eaton swap, I'll be running remote breathers.


Remote breather tank on mine and so far working great.


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[Spectragod]

First of all thank you for bringing back old wounds. Grrrr


I went with a MightyMouse catch can.

When under boost it becomes an open breather... :2thumbs:



I cam smell it when your car is under boost, which, is all the time....


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