Big Brakes on a not-so-big Budget? YEP

[lji372]

Btw

Oreillys calipers. $218
eBay hawk rotors. $136
Amazon Wagner pads $36

[1Marauder]

Yes there are. I have taken the remainder and sent them off for a bright black anodize process so they won't oxidize. Waiting on final cost, if it's marginal I'll eat it. If it's a bit more they may go up a few dollars in price.
I should have them back Thursday or Friday and get the final cost. :beatnik:


I want new black anodized... can I send mine off too?

[justbob]

Yes there are. I have taken the remainder and sent them off for a bright black anodize process so they won't oxidize. Waiting on final cost, if it's marginal I'll eat it. If it's a bit more they may go up a few dollars in price.

I should have them back Thursday or Friday and get the final cost. :beatnik:


I want a refund! [emoji4]


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[crownvic97]

Yes there are. I have taken the remainder and sent them off for a bright black anodize process so they won't oxidize. Waiting on final cost, if it's marginal I'll eat it. If it's a bit more they may go up a few dollars in price.
I should have them back Thursday or Friday and get the final cost. :beatnik:
Im in on a set when available, pm sent.

[Buck-Strickland]

I'm ready to buy a set when there available. Please let me know. Thanks!!

[vkirkend]

Yes there are. I have taken the remainder and sent them off for a bright black anodize process so they won't oxidize. Waiting on final cost, if it's marginal I'll eat it. If it's a bit more they may go up a few dollars in price.
I should have them back Thursday or Friday and get the final cost. :beatnik:

I have an interest in upgrading the front brakes on the Black also....

[SteelQualityMan]

I have the 14-inch TCE front brakes on my Marauder and I love them but my 01 CV is seriously under braked for a supercharged car. Does anyone know if this setup will fit on a Crown Vic?

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[SteelQualityMan]

PS the car has 18 inch rims.

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[RubberCtyRauder]

i not sure about 01, suspension and frame all changed in 03

[Spectragod]

03' and up should do fine


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[Zack]

I have the 14-inch TCE front brakes on my Marauder and I love them but my 01 CV is seriously under braked for a supercharged car. Does anyone know if this setup will fit on a Crown Vic?

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You have a cast steel spindle with only one known brake upgrade kit which costs over 3k I think.

You can do Like I did and modify the spindle to accept CTS-V calipers and GT500 rotors.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn306/Marauder-Z/1993%20Hot%20Rod%20Lincoln/E0810DE4-2715-4342-ADB2-ADF9D77531BF_zpsxecg8xkn.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/Marauder-Z/media/1993%20Hot%20Rod%20Lincoln/E0810DE4-2715-4342-ADB2-ADF9D77531BF_zpsxecg8xkn.jpg.h tml)
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[Todd TCE]

I have the 14-inch TCE front brakes on my Marauder and I love them but my 01 CV is seriously under braked for a supercharged car. Does anyone know if this setup will fit on a Crown Vic?


The current 03+ kits will not.

However I have an earlier iron spindle here for another project and data from that for production of full size larger kits if you wish to go that way.

Not sure I'll really put them on the menu as kits beyond this custom as most of the older cars retain the 17" steel wheels and I'm not sure the work is worth the expense in the end. But.. if you have 18 or more I'm sure we can work something out.

[SteelQualityMan]

Interestingly, the car originally was built with Brembos on the front. Some previous owner took them off and substituted some solid rotors and a brake pad compound that creates more dust then you could possibly believe.

Todd, I'm away on a business trip right now, but I will get in touch when I get back.

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[myrodr]

Just FYI calipers at auto zone $198.01 delivered to your door. Use their 20% off code 20COOL10 hope it helps

[lji372]

I want a refund! [emoji4]


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I cannot vomit on command, sorry. :eek:

[Turbov6Bryan]

Just FYI calipers at auto zone $198.01 delivered to your door. Use their 20% off code 20COOL10 hope it helps


Btw

Oreillys calipers. $218
eBay hawk rotors. $136
Amazon Wagner pads $36

Part numbers guys? I just checked napa and they are out of stock on rotors and calipers.

So just order parts for a 2008 gt500?

[Ccdline73]

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320xq90/r/923/gN4eqY.jpg

[Ccdline73]

I went a different route but this thread helped me think and come up with this idea

[Zack]

What rims will you be using?

[Zack]

Got a pic of the backside of the rotor?

[lji372]

Made me come up with an idea too.

Thanks Zack :lovies2:


lwCKbYKjfec

[parker]

Made me come up with an idea too.



Thanks Zack :lovies2:





lwCKbYKjfec



Where is my set?

[myrodr]

What's the price for this service?

[parker]

What's the price for this service?



Yes I have a brand new set I haven't installed yet and would love to have Marauder milled in mine before I do.

[MOTOWN]

Made me come up with an idea too.

Thanks Zack :lovies2:


lwCKbYKjfec

Why are you milling off the cooling fins?

[lji372]

Why are you milling off the cooling fins?

Needs a bit of clearance for the wheel weights.

True story......

[parker]

Needs a bit of clearance for the wheel weights.



True story......



So when can I get my calipers to say Marauder?

[lji372]

So when can I get my calipers to say Marauder?

Let me finish the current run. Hopefully will have them back from the powder coater early next week.

[parker]

Let me finish the current run. Hopefully will have them back from the powder coater early next week.



Awesome just shoot me a PM when available

[Turbov6Bryan]

Nice! Very nice

[Ccdline73]

I used 2013 gt500 rotors and machined 1/2 in of so the overall diameter is 14.5 inches. All I had to do is egg out the lower hole on the spindle and the caliper fit with no spacing. The calipers are off a 2004 cts v. Front wheels are 19s and I can't remember the specs of it

[Zack]

I used 2013 gt500 rotors and machined 1/2 in of so the overall diameter is 14.5 inches. All I had to do is egg out the lower hole on the spindle and the caliper fit with no spacing. The calipers are off a 2004 cts v. Front wheels are 19s and I can't remember the specs of it

This is winning.
A marauder wheel does not work, correct?

[Ccdline73]

Correct, there is very little room even with 19s plus the calipers are very thick due to having pistons on both sides

[Ccdline73]

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320xq90/r/924/7Y294A.jpg

[Ccdline73]

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320xq90/r/923/GrRtfm.jpg

[Ccdline73]

Stock rotor with caliper mounted. Quite the difference lol

[Ccdline73]

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320xq90/r/923/1NJJI5.jpg

[Ccdline73]

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320xq90/r/922/Nmavup.jpg

[Ccdline73]

My crown vic aka the Honey Badger

[Ccdline73]

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320xq90/r/921/SasN59.jpg

[Zack]

Nicely done. But the wheels sticking out will not be admired by many.
One day ill figure out how to make it work

[Ccdline73]

The front wheels are flush with the side of the car

[Zack]

The front wheels are flush with the side of the car

They definitely stick out considerably past stock.
But great mod sir. Nicely done

[82dawgcrazy]

Let me finish the current run. Hopefully will have them back from the powder coater early next week.

Subscribing! :popcorn::popcorn:

[1Marauder]

What's the price for this service?



THIS IS PRICELESS...

[1Marauder]

[QUOTE=lji372;1510110]Made me come up with an idea too.

THIS IS PRICELESS.... OMG HOW FRICKEN COOL IS THIS? You are a god!

Q now is.. Whadda 'bout the back?

Yes, that's what she said!

[lji372]

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[ledzilla]

Me likey very much.

[MOTOWN]

Just badazz!

[parker]

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Be-a-utiful, I'll take mine black with silver lettering.

[Mancillas1982]

Nicely done sir!


Marauder 03

[daddyusmaximus]

That is so cool. Perfect. Hurry up and take my money. (well, maybe at the first of the month) Red and black will do, just like the photos. I'm pretty sure once you come up with a price, you'll start having customers.

[ledzilla]

I'd dig them in blue with silver lettering. Jerry, you got a cost for us muggles yet?

[justbob]

Looks great Jerry!

How about a twist? Mercury Racing...


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[WhatsUpDOHC]

Beautiful work, Jerry!!

Got any pics with the wheels on?

[Bad_S55]

^^^To Jerry's kid, there's no distinction between flat black, semi-gloss black, and gloss black, but he remembered to specify gloss red!

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss216/bad_S55/Mobile%20Uploads/20160820_204300_zpsfl65yutr.jp g (http://s577.photobucket.com/user/bad_S55/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160820_204300_zpsfl65yutr.jp g.html)

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But they look fantastic, and it stops great! Rotors are Powerstop & pads are EBC Yellowstuff.

[lji372]

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Well, sign me up for those exact ones


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[Spectragod]

Sign me up for the grease free pad and rotor install...................

[Gryphonzus]

Come on Jerry quit torturing us give us the price PLEASE! I know you want to sell me some.

[Spectragod]

Eight bucks a set?


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[parker]

Eight bucks a set?


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I'll take two then.

[Bad_S55]

There's the money shot

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss216/bad_S55/Mobile%20Uploads/20160823_193548-1_zpshvxgojk1.jpg (http://s577.photobucket.com/user/bad_S55/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160823_193548-1_zpshvxgojk1.jpg.html)

[Limited360]

There's the money shot

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss216/bad_S55/Mobile%20Uploads/20160823_193548-1_zpshvxgojk1.jpg (http://s577.photobucket.com/user/bad_S55/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160823_193548-1_zpshvxgojk1.jpg.html)

Damn those are some dull tires...

[1Marauder]

Man these are beautiful.

I do like the GLOSS BLACK! better than non gloss black!!!

How sick would it be to have all of your Marauders have these????

[Comin' in Hot]

I had a bad caliper, one piston would not fully retract causing a squeaking noise. I just replaced it and threw on new pads since they are like 75% used up. I love the brakes, great mod, I have about 13k on them now.

[03BlackWindDOHC]

Are the brackets for this still available or can someone fan some up? I'll be doing this mod in about a month or so and have been hearing that the brackets are hard to come by.

[parker]

Are the brackets for this still available or can someone fan some up? I'll be doing this mod in about a month or so and have been hearing that the brackets are hard to come by.



Shoot lji372 a pm and see if he has any left. If not maybe a nice member will sell you a set they have laying around. Or you'll just have to wait until they make another run "IF" they do.

[lji372]

Another run is about to happen.

[parker]

[emoji95]BOOM[emoji95]
And their is your answer!

[03BlackWindDOHC]

Thanks guys! Also got in touch with a member who can make them anytime, so I'm set! Just another pay check or 2 and I'm READY! Thanks again, cats!

[Thenwhat85]

I know it's supposed to be a budget big brake kit. But has anyone tried the oem replacment wilwood calipers for the c5 vette on zacks brackets and gt500 rotors? Cause I'm really thinking about those calipers.

[Turbov6Bryan]

Thanks guys! Also got in touch with a member who can make them anytime, so I'm set! Just another pay check or 2 and I'm READY! Thanks again, cats!

Tell us who:eek:

[Thenwhat85]

Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/272073993127

[parker]

Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/272073993127



Buy some and try them on if they don't work just sell them.

Or! You could do some measurements to see if they will fit. But what's the fun in that?

[Turbov6Bryan]

After reading the description, they bolt onto oem vette brackets
When we buy the calipers in semi loaded configuration, those caliper brackets allow us to use them in addition to zacks brackets

So yes they would work, you will need the Zack brackets AND the OEM caliper mount brackets

Now, do some research and find out if the calipers have more clamping force over the oem vette ones.

I can buy 5 sets of semi loaded vettes, vs what you posted, plus you need vette caliper brackets, and zacks brackets

You might be $$ ahead to buy Todd at tce front kit

[justbob]

I thought there was wheel clearance issues.


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[Thenwhat85]

I have the zack brackets. didn't think I would need vette brackets. And yes I'm thinking there would be a clearance issue but I have 19 inch mustang wheels on the wannabe. I'm sure they have more clamping force but I'll do some research.

[Turbov6Bryan]

I have the zack brackets. didn't think I would need vette brackets. And yes I'm thinking there would be a clearance issue but I have 19 inch mustang wheels on the wannabe. I'm sure they have more clamping force but I'll do some research.

Well, you can't mount the vette caliper into the panther brake pad bracket, just realize you will need the caliper brackets

Edit: I looked at the other pictures. Doh. I guess no vette brackets needed... My mistake

[ledzilla]

It looks like these Wilwood calipers don't have a separate bracket and will bolt directly to the custom brackets from Jerry. But yeah, the regular Vette calipers will definitely need the appropriate caliper bracket. You can see them in the photos.

[Thenwhat85]

Yeah I think I'm going to try it. I'm just worried about the caliper hitting the spokes of my rim. It's really close as it sits now stock.

[parker]

Yeah I think I'm going to try it. I'm just worried about the caliper hitting the spokes of my rim. It's really close as it sits now stock.



Let us know how it works out and take pics of the progress for us. I think a black set would look good.

[Zack]

Any other caliper will hit the rim

[Thenwhat85]

That's what I was thinking. I have plenty of clearance between the od of the rim and the caliper but it's real close towards the hub and spokes.

[03BlackWindDOHC]

Tell us who:eek:

It was a guy on the Mercury Marauder Facebook page. I'll see if I can find him. I know he's friends with Jerry and some other Michigan Marauder cats. I'll let you all know.

[Odysseus]

Very interested in a set of these! PM sent

[lji372]

Big brake brackets are back in stock :2thumbs:

$165 shipped (now come anodized black)

[sexygomer]

Has anyone done any research on 2016+ mustang brakes? http://quirk-images.com/ebay01/ebayrev2/FR3Z2B121ERONTSET_1.jpg

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Has anyone done any research on 2016+ mustang brakes? http://quirk-images.com/ebay01/ebayrev2/FR3Z2B121ERONTSET_1.jpg

The rotors are thicker, thus thicker calipers, thus wheels sticking out via spacers, or using lower offset aftermarket wheels.

[larryboy]

Are the Big brake brackets still available ?

[Drewstang]

Those that have used slotted or drilled rotors, what brand did you use and what results have you had?

[03Merc]

Those that have used slotted or drilled rotors, what brand did you use and what results have you had?



PowerStop slotted and drilled, haven't put them on yet tho.


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[Sully008]

Those that have used slotted or drilled rotors, what brand did you use and what results have you had?


Rotors:
Centric 12661089SL and 12661089SR slotted only

Best upgrade I've done to the car other than supercharging it.

My review:

https://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97949

[Drewstang]

Rotors:
Centric 12661089SL and 12661089SR slotted only

Best upgrade I've done to the car other than supercharging it.

My review:

https://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97949

Did you ever go back and paint the lower portion of the rotors? I may look into some coated rotors to avoid that problem.

[Sully008]

Did you ever go back and paint the lower portion of the rotors? I may look into some coated rotors to avoid that problem.

Nah, never got around to doing that yet. I'm okay with it for now. It would be purely for cosmetics.

Small update: I've got about 5000kms and they still stop great. The only thing I can complain about is a nasty squeal when cold. This could be either the pads I chose or a loose caliper boot that's let in some dirt. I'll have to check when I bring the car out of winter storage.

[Jolly Roger]

Those that have used slotted or drilled rotors, what brand did you use and what results have you had?

R1 Concepts.
from ebay.
(see page #47 post #667 from this thread.;)

[ledzilla]

Are there any good rotor offerings that come with the hat painted or coated, or the whole rotor coated, where the same model is available for front and rear? I'm not enthused about rusty looking rotors, and the last couple times I've used paint on rotors/drums it ended up sticking to the wheel, so I'd like to avoid that. And yes, I am aware that any coatings on the friction surface of the rotor will be worn away by the pads. Just want the areas not touched by the pads to be able to look nice for as long as possible.

[RubberCtyRauder]

Look for zinc coated or Ecoat..I have zinc coated onmy daily, been thru 2 winters, no rust but they are not shiny any longer, sort of look like oxidized aluminum. R1 concepts have them, stop tech, ebc...

[Jolly Roger]

Are there any good rotor offerings that come with the hat painted or coated, or the whole rotor coated, where the same model is available for front and rear? I'm not enthused about rusty looking rotors, and the last couple times I've used paint on rotors/drums it ended up sticking to the wheel, so I'd like to avoid that. And yes, I am aware that any coatings on the friction surface of the rotor will be worn away by the pads. Just want the areas not touched by the pads to be able to look nice for as long as possible.

I'm pretty happy with the R1 Concepts rotors.
I think they are zinc coated.;)

[Mr. Man]

Are there any good rotor offerings that come with the hat painted or coated, or the whole rotor coated, where the same model is available for front and rear? I'm not enthused about rusty looking rotors, and the last couple times I've used paint on rotors/drums it ended up sticking to the wheel, so I'd like to avoid that. And yes, I am aware that any coatings on the friction surface of the rotor will be worn away by the pads. Just want the areas not touched by the pads to be able to look nice for as long as possible.
I wonder if BBQ grille paint would work.

[lji372]

Are there any good rotor offerings that come with the hat painted or coated, or the whole rotor coated, where the same model is available for front and rear? I'm not enthused about rusty looking rotors, and the last couple times I've used paint on rotors/drums it ended up sticking to the wheel, so I'd like to avoid that. And yes, I am aware that any coatings on the friction surface of the rotor will be worn away by the pads. Just want the areas not touched by the pads to be able to look nice for as long as possible.

HART on ebay has zinc, drilled and slotted. That's what i used. So for so good.

[ledzilla]

I wonder if BBQ grille paint would work.

I've used it as a primer on brake drums. Works for that pretty well. The paint on top got chipped from impacts (got a little careless with tools while they were sitting out prior to installation), but the bbq paint stuck in place.

[Drewstang]

HART on ebay has zinc, drilled and slotted. That's what i used. So for so good.
Is this the correct listing?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-BLACK-HART-DRILLED-SLOTTED-BRAKE-ROTORS-Ford-MUSTANG-2012-Shelby-GT500-/121898092960?hash=item1c61b149 a0:g:S8gAAOSwa~BYSJIv&vxp=mtr#vi-ilComp

[lji372]

Is this the correct listing?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-BLACK-HART-DRILLED-SLOTTED-BRAKE-ROTORS-Ford-MUSTANG-2012-Shelby-GT500-/121898092960?hash=item1c61b149 a0:g:S8gAAOSwa~BYSJIv&vxp=mtr#vi-ilComp

That's what i used, with wagner mx731 pads. They also sell a matching rear for a Marauder that comes with ceramic pads.

[03Merc]

We coat some types of rotors with this to prevent rust, works pretty well.



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[MercThunder]

I'm sure this is redundant, so apologies to all in advance, but after almost 2 years, I'm getting around to putting my Zack/Todd kit on the car. The problem I'm running into is the caliper pins and bushings for the Vette calipers didn't come with them. I didn't see in the shopping list as needing these separate, so can someone tell me what they used on theirs? Thanks in advance, and apologies for missing the answer to this, as I'm sure it's been covered.

[lji372]

I'm sure this is redundant, so apologies to all in advance, but after almost 2 years, I'm getting around to putting my Zack/Todd kit on the car. The problem I'm running into is the caliper pins and bushings for the Vette calipers didn't come with them. I didn't see in the shopping list as needing these separate, so can someone tell me what they used on theirs? Thanks in advance, and apologies for missing the answer to this, as I'm sure it's been covered.

These are the part numbers I use. Comes with everything you need.

Rock auto
$105 18-B4703 caliper
$105 18-B4702 caliper

[chief455]

These are the part numbers I use. Comes with everything you need.

Rock auto
$105 18-B4703 caliper
$105 18-B4702 caliper

And they look sexy in black powder coating with MARAUDER lettering :cool:

[MercThunder]

Thanks for that...I have the calipers, but its the pins and bushings I need, since the Ford ones don't fit the Vette calipers :)

[mm svt]

Has anyone measured the distance from center to the calipers back side for wheel clearance

[03Merc]

Has anyone measured the distance from center to the calipers back side for wheel clearance



They clear.....but, mine were modified for the weights to clear....


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[BigCars4Ever]

Will these work? https://www.summitracing.com/search?SortBy=BestKeywordMatch&SortOrder=Ascending&keyword=%20S4702

[chief455]

Will these work? https://www.summitracing.com/search?SortBy=BestKeywordMatch&SortOrder=Ascending&keyword=%20S4702

based on their application listing, yes. You see the $150 core charge, added to the $279 price, right?
"The part PWR-S4702 has an additional core charge of $150.00 per item."

[BigCars4Ever]

DOH! I missed that!

[Blown3.8]

picture fix


Things to know:
You will need to grind down the aluminum so the bracket sits correctly and the bolts thread in. Pretty self explanatory.... When you can thread the bolts in, you have ground down enough.

Also, look closely to the pic. You will need to grind a small relief where I did so the abutment bracket sits perfectly.
(My holes were enlarged for the cobra brakes on the car before this. Yours will not look this way)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn306/Marauder-Z/Marauder%20Repairs/D4B48C95-F21A-47AF-A1AF-1AF299C50DF2_zpsztfn7uji.jpg~o riginal (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/Marauder-Z/media/Marauder%20Repairs/D4B48C95-F21A-47AF-A1AF-1AF299C50DF2_zpsztfn7uji.jpg.h tml)

Another pic of grinding:
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn306/Marauder-Z/Marauder%20Repairs/5FFFFEA6-62C1-4148-8195-09E95FBB714F_zpsvjibhchr.jpg~o riginal (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/Marauder-Z/media/Marauder%20Repairs/5FFFFEA6-62C1-4148-8195-09E95FBB714F_zpsvjibhchr.jpg.h tml)

The factory dust shield will also need to be removed for this.

[the fat bastid]

I've got a pretty big overhang on the brake pad. What did I do wrong here?
The rotors are the 14 inch hart ones, the calipers are the ones mentioned in the thread from rock auto.
https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46 642&stc=1&d=1506442715

Here is the grind down fit. It threads fine right now. It seems like I need to grind down more but then wouldn't it move the holes and not thread at that point?

https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46 643&stc=1&d=1506442720

Thanks for any insights, guys!

[Zack]

What application is the rotor for?

[lji372]

What application is the rotor for?

I believe he bought the hart gt500 rotors off eBay.

[Zack]

I believe he bought the hart gt500 rotors off eBay.



Let him answer peepeehead


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[the fat bastid]

Let him answer peepeehead


Lol. But he is right! I used the Jerry approved ebay listing
here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-BLACK-HART-DRILLED-SLOTTED-BRAKE-ROTORS-Ford-MUSTANG-2012-Shelby-GT500-/121898092960?hash=item1c61b149 a0:g:S8gAAOSwa~BYSJIv&vxp=mtr#vi-ilComp) as referenced in post 853 (https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1531707&postcount=853) and 854 (https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1531709&postcount=854). 2012 ford mustang gt500. With the ID opened up as needed, they fit fine. I notice they dish in around the hub, the listing doesn't show that and other member's rotors don't seem to do that either.


https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46 646&stc=1&d=1506450949

[lji372]

Let him answer peepeehead


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You are not the boss of me!

Fine!
Foot stomp!!

[Blown3.8]

Lol. But he is right! I used the Jerry approved ebay listing
here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-BLACK-HART-DRILLED-SLOTTED-BRAKE-ROTORS-Ford-MUSTANG-2012-Shelby-GT500-/121898092960?hash=item1c61b149 a0:g:S8gAAOSwa~BYSJIv&vxp=mtr#vi-ilComp) as referenced in post 853 (https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1531707&postcount=853) and 854 (https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1531709&postcount=854). 2012 ford mustang gt500. With the ID opened up as needed, they fit fine. I notice they dish in around the hub, the listing doesn't show that and other member's rotors don't seem to do that either.

How much do those weigh?

[the fat bastid]

How much do those weigh?

About 25 pounds each. Noticeably heavier than stock. You can really blast your quads with these.

[Zack]

You either have the wrong pads, wrong rotors or the wrong caliper bracket.

[lji372]

You either have the wrong pads, wrong rotors or the wrong caliper bracket.

Rock auto did send me a wrong bracket on a set. :dunno:

[the fat bastid]

You either have the wrong pads, wrong rotors or the wrong caliper bracket.

Yup, rock auto sent me the wrong bracket. the left is a full inch to the bolt hole, the right is half an inch.
https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46 650&stc=1&d=1506477426

Big thanks Zack, you da man! lji372 says your comment is what reminded him about it, which got me to check it out.

time to deal with rock auto now...

[the fat bastid]

Once the bracket thing was sorted out (thanks again jerry) everything went on fine:

https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46 721&stc=1&d=1507659576

Look at those wheel weights just make it!
Dust shield was left on the back. No problems there.
Everything was well thought out, well engineered and the clearances for everything is perfect. Thanks for the hard work guys!

On a scale of Enterprise to Next Gen I give this mod a solid Picard.

I tried weighing everything going on and off. These are rough numbers of me just standing on a scale holding the part:

The stock calipers with pads and SS lines: 35 pounds
Stock rotors: 40 pounds

this kit:
pads: 4.7
brackets: 3.2
calipers: 16
rotors: 50
lines: forgot. my bad.

so the kit is 235.25 vs the stock 232.2. Heavier rotors offset by the aluminum calipers. Ymmv, it wasn't exactly a scientific test

[Zack]

Glad you are pleased!

[lji372]

Btw where rock auto failed him cardone covered us.

I fronted him the bracket and my kid powder coated it black (even though he wasn't my customer on those parts). He would have had to pay his powder coated and waited again because customer service and happy marauder owners are my goal.

Next time maybe the fatbastid will just buy from a member. :lol:

[Jolly Roger]

Just wanted to thank Jerry for this finished product.
Also Zack for the concept/idea.
Finally got around to upgrading from my plain ones.

[Leafy]

Once the bracket thing was sorted out (thanks again jerry) everything went on fine:

https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46 721&stc=1&d=1507659576

Look at those wheel weights just make it!
Dust shield was left on the back. No problems there.
Everything was well thought out, well engineered and the clearances for everything is perfect. Thanks for the hard work guys!

On a scale of Enterprise to Next Gen I give this mod a solid Picard.

I tried weighing everything going on and off. These are rough numbers of me just standing on a scale holding the part:

The stock calipers with pads and SS lines: 35 pounds
Stock rotors: 40 pounds

this kit:
pads: 4.7
brackets: 3.2
calipers: 16
rotors: 50
lines: forgot. my bad.

so the kit is 235.25 vs the stock 232.2. Heavier rotors offset by the aluminum calipers. Ymmv, it wasn't exactly a scientific test

Are those 17" wheels?

[Mr. Man]

Are those 17" wheels?18"...................

[Leafy]

Damn. No way they'll fit 17s. I guess I'm on my own hunt to find calipers that have race pads available that fit 17s.

[a_d_a_m]

Damn. No way they'll fit 17s. I guess I'm on my own hunt to find calipers that have race pads available that fit 17s. ...or buy a set of 18s on Craigslist, I mean Mustang wheels are dirt cheap anymore...








I just scored Jolly Roger's old, non-engraved Vette calipers. I guess I should put rotors, pads, lines, and brackets on my Christmas list...

[Zack]

Not all 18" rims have the same ID. Measure first

[a_d_a_m]

Measure first :D :D :D :D :D

[rumblin46]

Any of these brackets available?

[lji372]

Any of these brackets available?

Ordering stock today.....

[rumblin46]

Thank you! I tried to PM you but your box was full.

[a_d_a_m]

Ordering stock today..... Awesome.
I also need some brackets; not sure if you'd received my PM a couple weeks back.

[mm svt]

Awesome.
I also need some brackets; not sure if you'd received my PM a couple weeks back.



Your also going to need Jerry’s personal touch calipers. More like a want that becomes a need.

[Aerocoupe]

Was not sure if the PM I sent you went thought being I am brand new to the forum. I sent an email to you on the Yahoo address tied to the PayPal account inquiring if I could buy a set being I was not a member of the forum but I was not sure if you checked it or not. I don't own a Marauder or a CV but I am starting to build a boosted Coyote '70 F100 that I am putting a CV IFS under and really want this brake setup.

Anyhow, if I can get in on the buy let me know and I will PayPal the $165.

[Blown3.8]

Was not sure if the PM I sent you went thought being I am brand new to the forum. I sent an email to you on the Yahoo address tied to the PayPal account inquiring if I could buy a set being I was not a member of the forum but I was not sure if you checked it or not. I don't own a Marauder or a CV but I am starting to build a boosted Coyote '70 F100 that I am putting a CV IFS under and really want this brake setup.

Anyhow, if I can get in on the buy let me know and I will PayPal the $165.

Sounds sweet! Do you have a build thread going on another forum?

[Aerocoupe]

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?40556


I will get a thread going on this forum with what I do with the CV suspension when I get to that part of the build.


I have an '83 T-Bird that is far from stock so that is why I hang out on that forum. I get out on www.fordification.com (http://www.fordification.com) as well but have not really started a thread on there as this build is going to take me a couple of years. Have one at OU with about 2-1/2 more years so she is my priority right now.


Back to the regular programming on this thread. Jerry PM'd me and I plunked the $$$ for a set of adapters so I am really stoked about doing the brakes!!

[rumblin46]

I'm ready to buy whenever the brackets are ready!

[a_d_a_m]

I'm ready to buy whenever the brackets are ready!

PM Jerry, he’s about to run off a batch and is taking orders.

[Aerocoupe]

Got mine yesterday...all I can say is damn fine job gentlemen.


http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy142/dbrune_83/IMG_63291_zpsq0wp8jpr.jpg

[rumblin46]

Mine is done. Super easy to install, the brackets and brake lines are nice!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4703/25864101218_51795a1f89_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FpwhcC)IMG_20180116_193037589 (https://flic.kr/p/FpwhcC) by rumblin46 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90334391@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4626/39026810214_63183b31f0_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22sEB1b)IMG_20180112_153658123 _HDR (https://flic.kr/p/22sEB1b) by

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4632/39026752854_ddd27690cf_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22sEiXd)IMG_20180112_155054621 (https://flic.kr/p/22sEiXd) by rumblin46 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90334391@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4668/39026679254_40986c9e2f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22sDW5f)IMG_20180112_155103428 (https://flic.kr/p/22sDW5f) by rumblin46 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90334391@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4648/39735877441_a3afd1e96f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23xjKZc)IMG_20180112_155333000 (https://flic.kr/p/23xjKZc) by rumblin46 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90334391@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4756/25864072168_8ea48ff795_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Fpw8yL)IMG_20180112_155254775 (https://flic.kr/p/Fpw8yL) by rumblin46 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90334391@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4757/39704532602_aaeda3b59e_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23uy7fW)IMG_20180116_200448471 (https://flic.kr/p/23uy7fW) by rumblin46 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90334391@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4624/39704524002_bac08a9a91_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23uy4GE)IMG_20180116_203157402 (https://flic.kr/p/23uy4GE) by rumblin46 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90334391@N06/), on Flickr

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4656/25864029148_568bdfe4e8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FpvUM3)IMG_20180116_193005795 (https://flic.kr/p/FpvUM3) by rumblin46 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90334391@N06/), on Flickr

[Aerocoupe]

What size wheel?

[rumblin46]

18x9, close to a 6" backspace

[a_d_a_m]

Figured I would drop a line regarding Raybestos R-300 brake rotors. For this application, the part number is 680497PER. I liked 'em because the hats and cooling vanes are coated and will be more rust resistant. Also liked the price ($49/ea) and that they were Raybestos, which I've always had good luck with.

Unfortunately, I'd missed the part where it said they were slotted, and was surprised to see a design like this when I opened the box:
http://www.raysbestbrakes.com/Images/R300_Detailed.JPG


So, just as a heads-up...that's what the R-300s look like.

I ain't sendin' 'em back, they're here, may as well use 'em.

[ledzilla]

Figured I would drop a line regarding Raybestos R-300 brake rotors. For this application, the part number is 680497PER. I liked 'em because the hats and cooling vanes are coated and will be more rust resistant. Also liked the price ($49/ea) and that they were Raybestos, which I've always had good luck with.

Unfortunately, I'd missed the part where it said they were slotted, and was surprised to see a design like this when I opened the box:
http://www.raysbestbrakes.com/Images/R300_Detailed.JPG


So, just as a heads-up...that's what the R-300s look like.

I ain't sendin' 'em back, they're here, may as well use 'em.I was actually considering these rotors. I passed on them because I wanted to have matching rotors all the way around and couldn't seem to find any for the rear for some reason. Maybe I didn't look hard enough.

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[Serge]

Hey Zack, ever thought about doing a kit for the rear?

[a_d_a_m]

I was actually considering these rotors. I passed on them because I wanted to have matching rotors all the way around and couldn't seem to find any for the rear for some reason. Maybe I didn't look hard enough.
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=2768618&cc=1434300&jsn=523

680129PER is the RockAuto number. Oddly enough, they're more expensive than the GT500 rotors which are way bigger. I found one on Amazon for $38 with Prime, so I snagged that, and then went on eBay and bought one for $76 shipped.

At least they'll match.

[Zack]

Hey Zack, ever thought about doing a kit for the rear?

No because everyone would cry because the parking brake needs to get deleted

[ledzilla]

No because everyone would cry because the parking brake needs to get deletedMine already fell apart, so what do I care.

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[a_d_a_m]

No because everyone would cry because the parking brake needs to get deleted I don’t have a working parking brake on any of my cars, including the stickshift.

[tbone]

No one cares about a parking brake until they park on s steep hill and the shift pawl gets stuck or bent....

You need a working parking brake.

[fastblackmerc]

No one cares about a parking brake until they park on s steep hill and the shift pawl gets stuck or bent....

You need a working parking brake.

Or if you lose your main brakes.

[therealrogers]

No because everyone would cry because the parking brake needs to get deleted



I promise not to cry.


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[a_d_a_m]

I promise not to cry.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/012/073/7686178464_fdc8ea66c7.jpg

[Zack]

I can promise all of you I'm not attempting a rear brake kit

[Serge]

No because everyone would cry because the parking brake needs to get deleted

Is there no way to fab something up?

[Taemian]

These are the part numbers I use. Comes with everything you need.

Rock auto
$105 18-B4703 caliper
$105 18-B4702 caliper

Could I please have the year for the rotors? I'm in Canada, so the core charge with shipping makes this all a no go. I'll source it out locally.

Thanks, got the brackets so I'm almost ready to go!!

[03MERCMARAUDER]

Are brackets still available?

[a_d_a_m]

Are brackets still available? Best to PM lji372 direct as he may not see this post.

[Taemian]

Best to PM lji372 direct as he may not see this post.

Will do, thanks!

[Curless]

Curious, do you guys that already have the big brake upgrade with braided lines have a better pedal feel than before? I've spent a considerable amount of time and effort to get my brake pedal to feel right and so far nothing... its a sponge compared to before the install. I've bled, re bled, computer bled, replaced the master cylinder, on and on... the pedal feels like crap...

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Curious, do you guys that already have the big brake upgrade with braided lines have a better pedal feel than before? I've spent a considerable amount of time and effort to get my brake pedal to feel right and so far nothing... its a sponge compared to before the install. I've bled, re bled, computer bled, replaced the master cylinder, on and on... the pedal feels like crap...

I'm in the same boat after installing mine. The shop bled the ABS and said the brakes felt great, when I drove it with him, I was disappointed. He said it felt better than most taxi crown vics he's done, but I am not impressed. I want to modify the brake booster/master cylinder next if possible. \

I just want there to be minimal brake pedal travel as I feel there is way too m uch compared to other modern cars.

[justbob]

This is why rear drum brakes suddenly isn’t such a bad thing.. Just adjust them better and instant high pedal! I never saw a better advantage of having rear disc personally. If shoes are good enough for semi’s and trains.. [emoji6]


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[Taemian]

Curious, do you guys that already have the big brake upgrade with braided lines have a better pedal feel than before? I've spent a considerable amount of time and effort to get my brake pedal to feel right and so far nothing... its a sponge compared to before the install. I've bled, re bled, computer bled, replaced the master cylinder, on and on... the pedal feels like crap...

But has the stopping power increased noticeably? What is this upgrade like?

[Bad_S55]

Curious, do you guys that already have the big brake upgrade with braided lines have a better pedal feel than before? I've spent a considerable amount of time and effort to get my brake pedal to feel right and so far nothing... its a sponge compared to before the install. I've bled, re bled, computer bled, replaced the master cylinder, on and on... the pedal feels like crap...

I had a slight change in pedal feel, nothing to write home about though. But even though the pedal isn't great, my EBC brakes still bite hard enough to chuck me through the windshield. I've never driven a Panther that didn't have a weak pedal.

[Logizyme]

The brake pads will need to be broken in if not already, until then the pedal will be softer than normal. Pad compound will also make a significant difference, one of my favorite pads for a daily driver in the posi-quiet ceramic which has exceptional stopping ability, and low dust/noise, does so with some compression, resulting in a softer/longer travel feel, compare that to the aggressive semi-metallic's used on police cars, which are noisey and dusty, but have excellent heat resistance and little compression and a high-hard very bite-ing pedal.

[lji372]

Could I please have the year for the rotors? I'm in Canada, so the core charge with shipping makes this all a no go. I'll source it out locally.

Thanks, got the brackets so I'm almost ready to go!!

2012 (not sure what years we’re yhe same but that’s what I used)

[lji372]

Are brackets still available?

Yes

I have roughly 4 sets in stock

[Sully008]

Curious, do you guys that already have the big brake upgrade with braided lines have a better pedal feel than before? I've spent a considerable amount of time and effort to get my brake pedal to feel right and so far nothing... its a sponge compared to before the install. I've bled, re bled, computer bled, replaced the master cylinder, on and on... the pedal feels like crap...


But has the stopping power increased noticeably? What is this upgrade like?

Here is my original review of the upgrade from 2015:

https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97949&highlight=zack+brake

Although the car is in winter storage right now, I can say that I'm still happy with this upgrade. Car stops on a dime, pedal feel still feels great. The only nitpick I have with it is I have a pretty bad squeal when the brakes are cold. Sounds like a stuck pig. Once they warm up the squeal goes away. This probably has more to do with the parts I've chosen, not the upgrade. The upgrade I feel is worth it. I haven't diagnosed the issue yet, I have other pressing matters to deal with once spring shows up.

[Taemian]

2012 (not sure what years we’re yhe same but that’s what I used)

Thank you, 2012 Mustang Shelby GT500 rotors it is then!

[Taemian]

Here is my original review of the upgrade from 2015:

https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97949&highlight=zack+brake

Although the car is in winter storage right now, I can say that I'm still happy with this upgrade. Car stops on a dime, pedal feel still feels great. The only nitpick I have with it is I have a pretty bad squeal when the brakes are cold. Sounds like a stuck pig. Once they warm up the squeal goes away. This probably has more to do with the parts I've chosen, not the upgrade. The upgrade I feel is worth it. I haven't diagnosed the issue yet, I have other pressing matters to deal with once spring shows up.

Nice review and photos! I'll stick with the harder pads, it's only my DD from May until the September rains start.

The 2012 GT500 rotors come slotted?

[a_d_a_m]

The 2012 GT500 rotors come slotted? Look on the last page of this thread; I posted part numbers and pictures of Raybestos offerings.

GT500 Front: 680497PER
Marauder Rear: 680129PER

There are many different slotted or slotted/drilled rotors. Go on RockAuto and look around.

[martyo]

I did this upgrade on my Crown 100 today.

Love it!!!

[RamRaud]

I just installed these a few weeks ago. At first they were mushy but stiffened up after taking it in for a brake fluid flush. Did anyone else have to grind down the factory brackets on the corners to let the adapters sit flush? other than that very pleased with the upgrade. Simple fun and Funny to see peoples expressions with the corvette logos lol!

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

I just installed these a few weeks ago. At first they were mushy but stiffened up after taking it in for a brake fluid flush. Did anyone else have to grind down the factory brackets on the corners to let the adapters sit flush? other than that very pleased with the upgrade. Simple fun and Funny to see peoples expressions with the corvette logos lol!

Everyone who has done this upgrade has.

[03Merc]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180325/f7214e09e4092136ffa8bb80318afc 19.jpg

I had to do it the right way, couldn't let it say "Corvette".


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[a_d_a_m]

Looks good. Notice any improvement in stopping power?

[Taemian]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180325/f7214e09e4092136ffa8bb80318afc 19.jpg

I had to do it the right way, couldn't let it say "Corvette".


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How did you get the word Marauder on the calipers???

[03Merc]

How did you get the word Marauder on the calipers???



CNC Machined off the Corvette and etched in the Marauder.


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[Taemian]

CNC Machined off the Corvette and etched in the Marauder.


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Cost? I'm just going to look on the web for a CNC machine shop and don't want to get hosed. I've NO clue as to what this would be a fair price to do.

Thanks!

[WPG_Merc]

Can't wait to get my big brakes installed after the Louisville meet.:beer:

With a 6th stop at Mo's with some touring along the way.:bows:

[mm svt]

How did you get the word Marauder on the calipers???



Jerry does it, you buy his calipers and send him yours as a core. You just need to clean them up and strip them down ie: remove the pistons

[RubberCtyRauder]

Cost? I'm just going to look on the web for a CNC machine shop and don't want to get hosed. I've NO clue as to what this would be a fair price to do.

Thanks!


see Jerry - lji372

[03MERCMARAUDER]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180325/f7214e09e4092136ffa8bb80318afc 19.jpg

I had to do it the right way, couldn't let it say "Corvette".


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those look great. I am wanting to do this upgrade now lol.

[Thenwhat85]

Question. I'm sure the answer is in the comments but I'm not reading 63 pages. Which way do the brackets offset the calipers. Towards the wheel or towards the frame rail. Or do the the gt500 rotors have shallower hat than the stock marauders rotor

[mm svt]

Towards the wheel, the bracket mounts in the same position as the original and the caliper larger in size is offset outward therefore getting closer to the wheelhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180406/fa559a8c1abb3860ff36ef178aa121 6a.jpg

[Thenwhat85]

Okay. On last question mm set what is the distance from the outside edge of the caliper to the outer face of the rotor (rim side) thanks

[mm svt]

It’s going to be a long wait for that answer, I’m hours away from the garage. Do you have any of the parts yet? It takes a few minutes to mock it up and check.

[Thenwhat85]

I have the brackets that's it. I found a good deal on wildwood slc65 4 piston calipers and might have enough room. Co
Abuse I have 19" rims. I just don't want it to be so far off that I would need thick spacers to clear. Or go the route of using the cts-v calipers like the one guy did in this thread. I appreciate the help.

[a_d_a_m]

I did the big brake upgrade on the Marauder today. As I said before, I went with Raybestos R300 rotors all the way around. Wasn't wild about the bacon strip shaped slotting, but they're not bad once the wheels are mounted. Also installed Gabriel Ultras on the back since my OE shocks were leaking last year.


I did this yesterday:
https://i.imgur.com/MKbfOZF.jpg

And put the front of the car up in the air as well:
https://i.imgur.com/k0iXqbr.jpg

Today, I got to work on the front.
https://i.imgur.com/t4huuAR.jpg

Working slow and alone, it took me just under 3 hours from the first spun wrench to last wrench being put away after the road test.

https://i.imgur.com/VUe5XlF.jpg

Single best mod I've ever done to the car. Pedal feel is EXCELLENT. As others have said, the stops are dead even and will suck your eyeballs out of your head.

Don't hesitate on this mod.
https://i.imgur.com/ok2yh9Q.jpg



Thanks to Zack, Jerry, and Todd. :beer:

[Zack]

I love Happy Endings

[a_d_a_m]

You sly dog. :D

Someone elsewhere noted that there's 1/2" or so where the rotor is untouched by the pad. I noticed that as well, but my attitude is that I'm still gaining pad-to-rotor contact overall vs the OE stuff, and these calipers are so much better, that it's a net benefit.

I guess if you have OCD, maybe it'd be an issue, but I don't...

[03Merc]

Of course the Corvette caliper won't fit on the Ford brake rotor completely. Come on now! Haha


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[a_d_a_m]

Quoted large and in bold for emphasis:

Liberally apply medium strength(blue) Loctite on each of the bolts.

60 miles from home, coming back from 2500 miles of Hot Rod Power Tour, something went wrong. I came to discover that Loctite is your friend, apparently.
https://i.imgur.com/3EQXYww.jpg

The new bracket bolts on the passenger side backed out. :stupid:

Otherwise, the brakes were flawless before and after the fix - including a run up/down Lookout Mountain, into Cheaha State Park, and through the sweeping passes between Chattanooga and Birmingham.

Still cannot recommend this mod enough.

(but I will be using Loctite on any and all future brake jobs...never did before...)

[justbob]

Oh man Adam! Any damage to the rim? Did they back off all the way?


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[a_d_a_m]

The rim is fine, and one of the bolts was still barely hanging on. All bolts were present and accounted for, though.

[lji372]

Brackets back in stock....

[03MERCMARAUDER]

Brackets back in stock....I'll take a set. PM me price and will send funds

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[Chard]

Brackets back in stock....

PM Sent your way

[Chard]

Someone local is selling a complete set of used 03 Corvette Calipers for $220 thoughts ?

[blazen71]

Someone local is selling a complete set of used 03 Corvette Calipers for $220 thoughts ?

Try RockAuto. Lots of options and good pricing!

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/chevrolet,2003,corvette,5.7l+v 8,1410411,brake+&+wheel+hub,caliper,1704

[burt ragio]

[QUOTE=a_d_a_m;1557554]You sly dog. :D

Someone elsewhere noted that there's 1/2" or so where the rotor is untouched by the pad. I noticed that as well, but my attitude is that I'm still gaining pad-to-rotor contact overall vs the OE stuff, and these calipers are so much better, that it's a net benefit.

I guess if you have OCD, maybe it'd be an issue, but I don't...[/QUOTE


Could the pads be cut back a bit or bracket be re machined to bring calipers closer into the hub ?

[burt ragio]

y
Curious, do you guys that already have the big brake upgrade with braided lines have a better pedal feel than before? I've spent a considerable amount of time and effort to get my brake pedal to feel right and so far nothing... its a sponge compared to before the install. I've bled, re bled, computer bled, replaced the master cylinder, on and on... the pedal feels like crap...

Did you bleed the calipers before installing ?

[BLACKMARAUDER04]

Saw another post about local guy Selling Corvette Calipers.
SO I checked Ebay and won a pair of GM High Performance Loaded Dual Piston Calipers Pair Corvette Chevy Sreet Rod C5.


Price $0.01 Shipping $51


Just like the concert I saw Tueday, Brit Floyd.
Got in for $10, parking was $25

[lji372]

[QUOTE=a_d_a_m;1557554]You sly dog. :D

Someone elsewhere noted that there's 1/2" or so where the rotor is untouched by the pad. I noticed that as well, but my attitude is that I'm still gaining pad-to-rotor contact overall vs the OE stuff, and these calipers are so much better, that it's a net benefit.

I guess if you have OCD, maybe it'd be an issue, but I don't...[/QUOTE


Could the pads be cut back a bit or bracket be re machined to bring calipers closer into the hub ?

Not enough to cover all that real estate.
I went with zinc coated rotors and haven’t had a rust issue where they don’t hit.
Note: not driven in the winter.

[a_d_a_m]

I also have not had an issue with rust.

[LunaVic]

Any more brackets available?

[Serge]

Pardon me if this was already answered but can 2013-2014 Shelby rotors be used? They are shown as 380 mm vs 355 mm for 2012.

[RubberCtyRauder]

That's a nearly 15" rotor, gonna need bigger than 18" wheels,won't matter anyway, the bracket and caliper/pad only make so much contact, you'll have "open" rotor surface not being contacted by brake

[Serge]

That's a nearly 15" rotor, gonna need bigger than 18" wheels,won't matter anyway, the bracket and caliper/pad only make so much contact, you'll have "open" rotor surface not being contacted by brake

Weren't there reports of pads hanging off the edge of the rotor? I thought this might solve that issue.

[03Merc]

Weren't there reports of pads hanging off the edge of the rotor? I thought this might solve that issue.



It's a Corvette Caliper on a Mustang Rotor. Come on now....


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[Serge]

It's a Corvette Caliper on a Mustang Rotor. Come on now....


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If can be improved, why not?

[Serge]

So I am ordering some parts for my setup and noticed that brake pads interchange with Cadillac XLR.

What are the chances that the calipers are also the same? They look identical in the images. I wonder if the only difference is Corvette/XLR stamping. If this is the case the XLR calipers are about half the price of Vette ones which would bring the price of the whole setup even lower.


Edit:
According to a couple of threads on XLR forums Corvette C6 brakes bolt right on which means that XLR calipers can be used. C6 calipers are same as C5, just have thicker casting on top to combat separation.
https://www.xlrforum.com/11-cadillac-xlr-v/6312-vette-z06-brakes-installed-photos.html
https://www.xlrforum.com/11-cadillac-xlr-v/6312-vette-z06-brakes-installed-photos.html


XLR
https://www.rockauto.com/info/27/FRC12174_FRO__ra_p.jpg
https://www.rockauto.com/info/1/18B4871-BAC__ra_p.jpg

Vette
https://www.rockauto.com/info/1/18B5007-BAC__ra_p.jpg
https://www.rockauto.com/info/142/CE_14162148_Fro__ra_p.jpg

[mm svt]

They still need to be shaved so you can have wheel weights

[Serge]

They still need to be shaved so you can have wheel weights

That's fine. The XLR calipers are 1/2 price of Vette calipers though.

[03Merc]

They still need to be shaved so you can have wheel weights



You can just do a static balance.....


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[Serge]

I ordered a set of XLR calipers with brackets from RockAuto for $61.60 a piece. Will update regarding fitment when they come in.

[musclemerc]

Post your results Serge.

No reason it won't work

[justbob]

I ordered a set of XLR calipers with brackets from RockAuto for $61.60 a piece. Will update regarding fitment when they come in.



Yes please do. I’ve had brackets and hoses for like two years collecting dust!


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[a_d_a_m]

Great detective work, Serge.
The savings should push a few more people into doing this (worthy) upgrade.

[1Marauder]

Yes, please update with photos!

[Turbov6Bryan]

Oreilly had calipers with brackets for 35.00 or 41.00 each side... that's employee prices. I bought enough to do 2 cars,..

Xlr Is just cheaper?

Amazon had a few cheap awhile back too

[Serge]

Oreilly had calipers with brackets for 35.00 or 41.00 each side... that's employee prices. I bought enough to do 2 cars,..

Xlr Is just cheaper?

Amazon had a few cheap awhile back too

That's a good deal. $35 and no core?

[Serge]

I received my XLR parts from Rock Auto today. Both front calipers were mismatched. lol Left caliper has C5 Vette part number stamped on it. Right caliper has 2008 Mercury Sable of all the cars part number on it.

Granted these will be going back but I found it hilarious that Sable calipers look nearly identical to the Vette ones apart from smaller bolt holes. If I didn't know any better I would even think they were for a Vette.

[justbob]

I received my XLR parts from Rock Auto today. Both front calipers were mismatched. lol Left caliper has C5 Vette part number stamped on it. Right caliper has 2008 Mercury Sable of all the cars part number on it.

Granted these will be going back but I found it hilarious that Sable calipers look nearly identical to the Vette ones apart from smaller bolt holes. If I didn't know any better I would even think they were for a Vette.



That’s funny and frustrating all in one.. Was the one box just packaged wrong?


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[Serge]

That’s funny and frustrating all in one.. Was the one box just packaged wrong?


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Yea I think so.

[Grimrepairman]

I love getting the wrong parts in the right boxes.
Almost as good as when hardware is missing because someone took it and returned the part.

Please keep us updated, I also have the brackets and lines and would like calipers that don't say Corvette on them.

[lji372]

Let us know how your exchange process goes.

[Serge]

They are letting me keep the wrong ones so I guess I have a spare C5 caliper.

[RF Overlord]

For what it's worth, when we took the Corvette factory tour during one of the Louisvilles we learned that 'vettes and XLRs were built on the same assembly line. Makes sense they'd have some common parts.

[lji372]

They are letting me keep the wrong ones so I guess I have a spare C5 caliper.

well that's cool. They wouldn't even respond to me telling them they sent me the wrong bracket.. :facepalm:

[Serge]

Their customer service sure went down the drain. I remember when I used to be able to call them and speak to an actual person. Now you just fill out a form online and are lucky to even receive an email response.

[RF Overlord]

Funny story...I was placing an order for a pair of shocks for my 2004 GMQ and remembered I needed some fuses. I put 2 each of three different values in the cart and it said they were shipping from 3 different warehouses for $3.99 extra each...so $12 shipping for $6 worth of fuses. I backed those out and went to Wally World.

[Serge]

Their shipping from different warehouses is a racket too. I noticed sometimes it's cheaper to place 2 separate orders then to put everything on one order and ship from different warehouses.

[blazen71]

I always play the shuffle game on RockAuto to get the best price. It's everchanging.

[Serge]

This just keeps getting funnier. I received replacement set of calipers today. Both are for a Sable. Now RockAuto wants me to ship them back for a refund but I have to pay for return shipping. I don't think so.

For anyone who thinks of getting a set of calipers online, my suggestion get them locally and inspect them to make sure they are the right ones.

[the fat bastid]

This is giving me flashbacks. One of mine was wrong as well. Rock auto was not helpful at all. Jerry's customer service >>>>>> rock auto's "customer service".

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Lesson learned. Cheap out and pay twice. Why get an uglier untested caliper to save a few bucks? I don't get it.

[Serge]

RockAuto agreed to ship these back and provide a refund.

I will still be trying XLR calipers from elsewhere though. I don't get how they are uglier though, especially if it's essentially a same caliper as a Vette. Also, last I checked the title of this thread is brakes on a budget so why wouldn't I want to cheap out and save as much as I can?

[1Marauder]

[QUOTE=Serge;1561983]RockAuto agreed to ship these back and provide a refund.

I will still be trying XLR calipers from elsewhere though. I don't get how they are uglier though, especially if it's essentially a same caliper as a Vette. Also, last I checked the title of this thread is brakes on a budget so why wouldn't I want to cheap out and save as much as I

I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ABOVE...IT MUST HAVE CUT AND PASTED THIS FROM ABOVE. I WROTE A ROCK AUTO RANT ABOUT ANOTHER ISSUE WHERE ROCKAUTO BONED ME ON A PAR THAT DID NOT FIT, AND MADE ME PAY POSTAGE TO RETURN THEM, EVEN THOUGH I BOUGHT A PART THAT DID FIT(different manufacturer) FROM THRM TOO. I ERASED MY RANT... CAUSE I AM A NICE GUY AND DIDN EANT TO DERAIL THREAD.

MY APOLOGIES THIS POSTED, IT WONT LET ME ERASE IT ALL...CARRY ON

[justbob]

[QUOTE=Serge;1561983]RockAuto agreed to ship these back and provide a refund.



I will still be trying XLR calipers from elsewhere though. I don't get how they are uglier though, especially if it's essentially a same caliper as a Vette. Also, last I checked the title of this thread is brakes on a budget so why wouldn't I want to cheap out and save as much as I could?


Finished. [emoji1303][emoji16]



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[lji372]

RockAuto agreed to ship these back and provide a refund.

I will still be trying XLR calipers from elsewhere though. I don't get how they are uglier though, especially if it's essentially a same caliper as a Vette. Also, last I checked the title of this thread is brakes on a budget so why wouldn't I want to cheap out and save as much as I can?

I hope this works out. :2thumbs:

[Serge]

Got a set of XLR calipers locally. They are same as C5 Vette. Part numbers match up. Fitment confirmed.