Oil Filters Revisited

[rkk]

Okay, so I just did an oil and filter change on the marauder and I have been using Motorcraft FL-820S from day one.

This is the 2nd occurrence whereby the gasket actually came off with the filter. :mad: Is Ford really cheapening the filter? Anybody else experience this?

I did a search and found an old thread entitled, "Oil filters revealed" from 2009, however, the link inside it no longer works.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=52018&highlight=oil+filters

So what is everyone currently using these days that has a good anti-drain back valve?

[Comin' in Hot]

Are you saying the gasket separated from the filter and was stuck on the oil filter adapter?

[RF Overlord]

That's pretty common and in no way indicates anything wrong with the filter.

The MC FL820S is still the best value-for-money.

[massacre]

+1 not understanding what you mean about the gasket...

I do a ton of oil changes as a fleet mechanic and we use the FL820-s filters never any issues. Sometimes the gasket stays on the oil filter adaptor, no big whoop just remove it before putting the new one on LOL

[fastblackmerc]

You'll have the same issue with any other brand filters.

I think it depends on how tight the filter is and how long it is on.

That's why you ALWAYS clean off the oil filter mount and oil the gasket.

[Pat]

What he said ^^^^^^^^^^

[JOEMERC]

Never had a issue with Motorcraft filter ,great filter for the price .

[gdmjoe]

To prevent the gasket from sticking to the adaptor all that's necessary is to apply a thin coat of oil on the gasket before installing the filter. Since I always prime the filter with oil, it's a simple matter of using your finger to lub' the gasket.

In 40+ years of doing my own oil changes I've never had a gasket stick to the adaptor. And that even includes the good o' FL1-A on the 1950's vehicles.
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[sailsmen]

To prevent the gasket from sticking to the adaptor all that's necessary is to apply a thin coat of oil on the gasket before installing the filter. Since I always prime the filter with oil, it's a simple matter of using your finger to lub' the gasket.

In 40+ years of doing my own oil changes I've never had a gasket stick to the adaptor. And that even includes the good o' FL1-A on the 1950's vehicles.
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Yes, there is a reason why this is the procedure and also the tightening procedure.

[JohnE]

To prevent the gasket from sticking to the adaptor all that's necessary is to apply a thin coat of oil on the gasket before installing the filter. Since I always prime the filter with oil, it's a simple matter of using your finger to lub' the gasket.

In 40+ years of doing my own oil changes I've never had a gasket stick to the adaptor. And that even includes the good o' FL1-A on the 1950's vehicles.
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I apply a thin coat of oil to the new gasket and have never had this issue. Also tighten 3/4 turn after the gasket contacts the surface.

[massacre]

We use a thin coat of grease on the gasket and tighten carefully and still get a sticky one overy once in a while. For whatever reason lol.

[jwibbity]

i put of few dabs of oil on the filter gasket, plus i only tighten it as much as I can by hand, when reinstalling, never had a sticky gasket between my 10K intervals, this is amsoil and the extended interval filter BTW.

[Marauderjack]

Grease is not recommended.....just use oil and check the filter when you remove it!!:rolleyes: If the gasket ain't there remove it from the adapter!!:beer:

Why do you consider this a problem??:confused:

[massacre]

Grease is not recommended.....

10 years and thousands of vehicles later, I can honestly say that a light coat of grease is not an issue.

[ctrlraven]

To prevent the gasket from sticking to the adaptor all that's necessary is to apply a thin coat of oil on the gasket before installing the filter. Since I always prime the filter with oil, it's a simple matter of using your finger to lub' the gasket.

In 40+ years of doing my own oil changes I've never had a gasket stick to the adaptor. And that even includes the good o' FL1-A on the 1950's vehicles.
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+1. Was told this when I first learned how to do my own oil changes, prime the filter and apply a thin coat of oil to the to he mating side of the gasket. Never had a gasket stick or come loose when removing a filter on any of my previous or current vehicles.

I always wipe and clean off the adapter surface before putting a new filter on.

[JOEMERC]

I agree on priming the filter with oil at least half way to get oil pressure up a lot quicker ,most people don't do it ,sure some will pour out of filter fishing it up to oil adaptor but there's already a mess when you removed the old one anyway. And yes always smear fresh oil on gasket .

[whitey]

Wow!, 2 pages worth of the same thing being said! Awesome! I know now ive been doing it correctly all these years!



Post count +1.....

[rkk]

Thank you all for the responses. Perhaps I overreacted a little, the consensus seems to be that I should remain with the Ford Motorcraft oil filter. So I shall.

[Marauderjack]

10 years and thousands of vehicles later, I can honestly say that a light coat of grease is not an issue.

FYI.....from another website!!

USE OIL -- ONLY A FOOL WOULD USE GREASE!
From Fleetguard/Cummins Diesel: "Clean oil should be used to lubricate the sealing gasket before the filter is installed on the head. This will ease installation and prevent gasket damage. Installing a filter with a dry gasket can result in fluid leakage and engine failure. Note: Grease should never be used to lubricate the sealing gasket. This can result in leaks between the gasket and head during the service interval."
http://www.fleetguard.com/fleet/en/customer_assistance/en_faqs.jsp?searchCategory=5

[loud2004marquis]

That's pretty common and in no way indicates anything wrong with the filter.

The MC FL820S is still the best value-for-money. ^^^+1^^^


+1 not understanding what you mean about the gasket...

I do a ton of oil changes as a fleet mechanic and we use the FL820-s filters never any issues. Sometimes the gasket stays on the oil filter adaptor, no big whoop just remove it before putting the new one on LOL ^^^WHAT HE SAID^^^


You'll have the same issue with any other brand filters.

I think it depends on how tight the filter is and how long it is on.

That's why you ALWAYS clean off the oil filter mount and oil the gasket. ^^^EYE CONCUR^^^


What he said ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^THIS^^^


Never had a issue with Motorcraft filter ,great filter for the price . ^^^Times TEN, x10, or just (10)^^^




To prevent the gasket from sticking to the adaptor all that's necessary is to apply a thin coat of oil on the gasket before installing the filter.^^^X1, That's how I do it^^^


I apply a thin coat of oil to the new gasket and have never had this issue. Also tighten 3/4 turn after the gasket contacts the surface. ^Used to do a full turn, but just started doing the 3/4^


We use a thin coat of grease on the gasket and tighten carefully and still get a sticky one overy once in a while. For whatever reason lol. ^^^YES^^^ Could never figure that one out!?


i put of few dabs of oil on the filter gasket, plus i only tighten it as much as I can by hand, when reinstallingI also smear the oil evenly all the way around the gasket, hand tighten is the way to go...Equals about 3/4 turn


Grease is not recommended.....just use oil and check the filter when you remove it!!^^^THIS^^^


10 years and thousands of vehicles later, I can honestly say that a light coat of grease is not an issue.

Oil...ALL DAY LONG!


I agree on priming the filter with oil at least half way to get oil pressure up a lot quicker ,most people don't do it ,sure some will pour out of filter fishing it up to oil adaptor but there's already a mess when you removed the old one anyway. And yes always smear fresh oil on gasket .

^^^Gonna have to try the priming, seems like the way to go.^^^


Wow!, 2 pages worth of the same thing being said! Awesome! I know now ive been doing it correctly all these years!



Post count +1..... I raise your +1 to a X2! :bows:


FYI.....from another website!!
^^^MINUS ONE or just plain ole' -1^^^

[Marauderjack]

This ranks up there pretty close to "oil threads"!!:bandit:

[MOTOWN]

This ranks up there pretty close to "oil threads"!!:bandit:

Heres your winner boys and girls!^^^^^^^^LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! !!