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Keith.Williams
08-16-2014, 12:36 PM
Thinking about beafing up my cams but dont know what size to go and what is a reasonable price for having it done
You will spend about 2K after install, degreeing, and tuning.
Not worth it.
WPG_Merc
08-16-2014, 04:01 PM
You will spend about 2K after install, degreeing, and tuning.
Not worth it.
For me it was way more then 2K after install as there was many other things
that had to be replaced to accommodate the cams which added to the cost.:eek:
I can post a cost list if you like. :beer:
Chayton
08-16-2014, 05:01 PM
For me it was way more then 2K after install as there was many other things
that had to be replaced to accommodate the cams which added to the cost.:eek:
I can post a cost list if you like. :beer:
please do! im curious
Keith.Williams
08-17-2014, 07:55 AM
Yes sir please do
JohnE
08-21-2014, 05:03 AM
You will spend about 2K after install, degreeing, and tuning.
Not worth it.
I agree with this advice.
massacre
08-21-2014, 09:23 AM
'96-'98 Cobra intake cams make decent power for relatively cheap.
WPG_Merc
08-23-2014, 09:25 AM
Staying N/A is cost effective for my needs for cruising around town or the odd out of town trip & with the donkey roads & photo radars I can't really go fast for a long period of time & I rarely go to the track.
I wasn't planning to do a cam swap but the MM had a bad tensioner & a loose chain in summer of 2013.Since the motor will be a part it was an opportunity to do cams.
So I did some research because of doing this I thought it was better to go with Stage 3 Comp Blower Cams instead of having the motor apart twice if not satisfied if I got stage 1
With Blower Cams I can still upgrade to ZEX or anything more radical later on with no problem.
It was a lot of work,time,all summer long & about 6 grand to get it done or more with costly shipping to Canada.There was a lot of things that had to be changed to accommodate the cams.
I have a good mechanic who did the work on the side & know these motors inside & out,But I could not get it tuned until MV11 because no one in my city could do it & I ran out of time.Jeff at Mo's Speed Shop tuned it as soon as I got to Atlanta from Canada for a good deal & put parameters in the tuner for NOS.:bows:
The bad thing was the cams were not degreed as one of the 4 cams is in the negative & ran out of time to get ready for MV 11,Jeff at Mo's Speed Shop tuned it to compensate for it :bows: But it still needs to be done soon.
With doing the cams the Trans & stock converter could not keep up because the cams were over powering it & I had to over rev the motor too shift to the next gear.
(UPDATE ) Aug/20/2014
The trans is rebuilt with a B&M Shift Kit/TCI'S Street Fighter Converter 3,000 - 3,400 RPM & Koelene Drag Clutches,Kevlar Power,OD & Reverse Bands & Deep Trans Pan.
All which was close to 5 grand :eek:.
There was a lot in upgrading cams but more costly in the things that has to change with it,But now it is a mean machine.In year or so I might upgrade to the Ford Racing Aluminator 46X 5.0L Short block. :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUr9nRisJm8
Gord
I went to http://www.modularmotorsportsracing.c om/
They are OK but they only use UPS & shipping across the boarder sucks
(I have all receipts for the parts if you like)
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Timing Chain and Guide kit for 4V Timing Chain and Guide kit for 4V
400007----$579.99
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UPGRADED Primary chain tensioners (left & Right)
CAST IRON instead of plastic with built in fail safe ratchet in case of oil pressure loss
444877----$179.99
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Comp Cams Stage 3 NA Billet camshafts
Great performance gains and Comp cams go hand in hand, stage 1 cams can use factory springs, stage 2 and 3 require High lift springs. Stage 1 Cams great for N/A or Nitrous cars with Bolt ons, stage 2 and 3 great for engines with head work, increased compression, stoker engines etc. Call for your application. Custom N/A cams also available.
100723----$1199.99
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Manley High Performance 4V spring kit (does not fit GT500) (Manley Part# 221434-32)
Recommended for all Forced induction applications and aftermarket camshafts, compatible with all factory locks and retainers. Up to .525 Lift 95lbs seat pressure/260 open pressure
100742----$499.99
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42 LBS Injectors(set of 8) (The stock 25 LBs injectors will be to lean for the hungry cams)
42NJ----$399.99
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NGK TR6 (set of 8) (most MM owners say they are the best to use)
400170----$24.99
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4 ARP camshaft sprocket bolts
25-1001----$158.20
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2 Megnaflow 4 inch delete tips
35119----$192.10
& 2 1/2 inch tail pipes from the megna mufflers to the 4 inch tips.
(I had to take the stock resonator tips & pipes out because there was a lot of
back pressure & was causing massive backfiring which is not good)
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KRC Racing Race Ready Inline Fuel Filters
http://www.summitracing.com/int/part...10bk/overview/
$79.97 (The stock fuel filter will choak the engine because the cams need constant flow)will need good pressure clamps.
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My mechanic Ron's two week (curse) free battle with the install
$1,000
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Ford 4.6/5.4L Adjustable Cam Gear Sets
10246SET
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-10246set
The COMP Cams degree gear set I'll get done soon as I ran out of time to do that when I went to MV 11 in Sept.Or do it after MV12 :(
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Next on order to do is
Granatelli Motor Sports Street Fighter Coil Packs 21-4001-SF
A few of the connectors are broken & held on by zip ties.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GRN-21-4001-SF
&
Granatelli Motor Sports Ford Coil-On-Plug Connector Kits 28-1705S
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GRN-28-1705S
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I hope this helps & With everything else the MM has ,It took A lot of time & money to make it a mean machine. :)
WPG_Merc
08-23-2014, 12:59 PM
What kinda tires
LANDY
08-23-2014, 09:07 PM
Just boost it and forget about cams. These little motors need a power adder not cams.
Just boost it and forget about cams. These little motors need a power adder not cams.
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